I was a Watson fan until recently, but stopped being one because he simply doesn't produce enough. But he had a hell of a game man. That throw that cooper dropped was sick and the one Jeudy dropped too. Also, had like an 80 yard touchdown called back. Very encouraging
Its not the refs, altho it was bs, it shouldnt have made the difference in the game. We start out great, then gradually decline. No disapline, coaching getting clueless. Piss poor tackling, no excitement in the team. Watson did fine i believe. He cant carry the team on his back, guys need to step up. Watson had the passion, no doubt.
21:32 GBush 💯 🎯... Browns DO NOT have a gameday HC because the titled HC wants to play OC on gameday. No game management, lack of discipline, lack of holistic in-game leadership
@@rayshawnclark716I’ve watched every game he’s played for the browns. Same story, turnovers, missed reads, guys running wide open and he’s holding the ball getting sacked. You guys give him all the credit for what goes right and none of the blame for what goes wrong. He got spotted 6 points by the defense and still disappeared in the 2nd quarter. Ya cooper had a horrible drop, watson was also late on the throw and threw into quadruple coverage. Ya there was a horrible call negating a td, watson still didn’t see two wide open guys on the last play. Enjoy your excuses and participation trophies, his record is 1-3 and his stats are at the bottom of the league. He has the worst epa of any browns qb since 99. This is your dude?
@@StayPuftMarshmellow you are on every single comment giving Watson credit talking dumb. If you watched this game and think the loss is on Watson, you don’t know what you are talking about. How many times can a $20 mil dollar receiver drop an easy catch? We. Lead.The.League.In.Drops. Penalties. Pressures. Sacks. Our defense allowed the worse running game in football look like world beaters. Missed xp means we can’t go down and kick a field goal and take momentum into OT and try and get a win. We have 0 INTs on the year. Ford averages 2 yards per carry. Keep blaming Watson. I guess everything I posted is his fault too. Guess those other guys aren’t being paid millions too. You hate him and that clouds your judgement on his play. Even when he was 4-1 last year y’all still complain. Go watch some games
Hey GB, there is enough blame to spread around everywhere in the organization. The owner, the front office, the players on both sides of the ball, and ALL of the coaches.
Son, that is a weekly occurrence. At the end of last season, we decimated our assistant coaching staff. The OL coach was allowed to leave, and then we wonder why the O Line stinks? Still, Stefanski calls a miserable game with his ancient offensive scheme. On defense, the Browns have not figured out that they are suseptible certain plays. Plays that attack the outer edges of our defense. It's time for some tough talk and changes to be made.
This loss wasn’t on Deshaun. The Oline is old, broke down, hobbled and slow. Cooper can’t catch a cold and our run game left with Nick Chubb. That’s the beginning and end of the story.
Our run game left with Bill Callahan. I love Nick Chubb, but if we plug and play him in this offense, with this run scheme, behind this O-line... He'll look like a shell of himself...people will blame the injury...and he'll be back on the IR by the end of the season.
The offense…..scored 10 points….against the Raiders. THE OFFENSE SCORED 10 POINTS!!! QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS GUY WHEN FLACCO TORE IT UP WITH THE SAME TEAM
Also Gbush, I’m tired of seeing Jim Schwartz’s 4-2-5 defense with 5 DB’s in game is getting punched in the mouth. Every time Jim Schwartz called his, easy to see coming, SAW DOG(Sam & will) edge blitz the raiders gashed his group. He’s called that blitz about 15-20 times this season so far with a low success rate. The same blitz that Greg Newsome got a penalty on in the giants game that negated an interception.
Wait is a sec, is Jim Schwartz that old weird lookin white dude standing in Joe Woods' spot cause I was confused about that Joe must have been out this week with a cold or somethin? I'm glad this Schwartz fella can at least do all the same stuff Joe Woods can do though or else I would have been worried 😅
In this season of the NFL the winners have scored 20 points or more and the teams who scored less than 20 points , they lost and the facts are points come from the passing game with the good combination of good OL and good WRs and good coaching and good quarterback
Let’s face it, although problems extend beyond our QB, DW and Stefanski just dont mix. If we keep Stefanski, we MUST get a QB who can complement his play call style, not contrast it smh
Watson played well today it’s not his fault today I thought he did his job it was almost everybody else today it was the most unorganized football game I seen the Browns play today I want to know who is leading this team man this team has no direction or fire 🔥 I just want to see this team get pissed off at somebody anybody show some emotions this team has no identity none I think we need to go back way back to where you get paid by the game no more big checks until you prove yourself how about that coaches too or maybe we need some big changes ❤what’s up g bush great show
@@StayPuftMarshmellowyet he would’ve had 250+ if the Oline didn’t cost a 80 yard TD, and Coop could catch. You hating in every single comment life must be sad fr.
@@showtimehighlights9664 my life is great but I’m sick of hearing the endless excuses. It’s not hate, I’m a pissed off fan. Ya’ll endlessly defending this crappy qb is what’s sad. I was calling this since the trade and arguing with watson fanboys. Now there’s proof this trade ruined the team and yet ya’ll continue to defend this crap. Since you have to attack me personally can you admit you lost the argument?
🕯🕯Just tired man been a fan since Sipe/qb...we had hope with Kosar...now we see how the team from last year just got old overnight.. O line is shot, D line crumbled,, Watson average at best...hate to say it, THIS WINDOW IS CLOSED..we will just limp along until the next REBUILD...see ya next year...I'm done.
Indeed. The window on the 2018 team era closed at the end of last season. We have to hope for 1-7 to bring an end to the Stefanski era. It hurts because we love the Browns. But surgery is rarely bloodless. Berry should go at the end of the year too. I believe that Watson will be benched when we get to 1-4. He will be Stefanski’s final scapegoat. Even if Berry orders Stefanski to give up play calling, it will not significantly improve this team. What bump we get this season will come when Stefanski is replaced Vrabel, presumably. We need a cultural change and that has to start with the coach. That is the one change we can make midseason. I am getting old and have accepted the fact that I might not live long enough to see the Browns make the Super Bowl. Don’t laugh, it’s been 59 years since we were in the title game, and 60 years since we won. If you had told my preadolescent self that I would be 70 and the Browns still would not have ever been to the Super Bowl, I would have laughed at you. But it’s true. I have been in Chicago for more than 40 years. And, we are no closer to the Super Bowl than when I left Ohio. I have given up. I like to watch GBush, especially after a loss, like I used to watch Bruce on Sports Time Ohio after they lost. I will still do my mock drafts too. But I can’t watch this slop masquerading as NFL football anymore. Not when I look around the league and so many teams are getting their sh$t together, or already have it together. We deserved better than this. They take our loyalty and money, and spit in our faces. Year after year. I knew this year was going to end in disappointment as long as Stefanski was the head coach. What I did not know is that it would happen so soon.
Every problem that you mentioned rests with the Haslam’s. They put the team in this position when they made the DW deal, and while he was not playing the other players aged out or injuried out and the Haslams gave away the draft picks and salary that would have helped maintain the personnel. But sadly we are stuck with the Haslams and their clown show. Kevin S. And the other non player personnel just reflect the Haslams’ incompetence.
If we are going to ask Watson to be special. Everyone putting on the uniform on the team need to be special that claim to superstars on our team. I was at the game and it felt like home game we the fans showed up, cheered, and represented. I need my team to do the same. Go Browns.
@@Ress330 cooper, joel and ethan yes! Moore wasn’t here, jerry wasn’t, ford was a rookie, jones wasn’t here, akins wasn’t….u would have a point but those guys are hurt and not playing these other guys have no excuse! Jerry the only one playing worth anything
I'm tired of everything being Watson's fault. Address these weak tackles, weak blocks, dropped balls... ridiculous play calls..protect the QB!! He has 3 seconds to lift his arm before he's sacked!!
Totally agree with you G Bush, definitely a culture/identity issue! In the AFC North, we THRIVE when we have a solid run game. We are and have always been a run first team! We will never convert to an air raid/spread offense. Our DNA lives within the run smh
We need fire and Vrabel brings the energy and tenacity. Don’t necessarily wanna see Kev get fired but maybe this team needs Vrabel at the helm and Dorsey calling the offense.
When you give away the store with draft picks and money then what do we expect. You cant grow linemen on a tree. They are drafted and bought in free agency but we ain’t got no juice left! Sorry this is management and coaching shortcomings period.
2024 Watson stat update: heading into week 5 Watson ranks 32nd in qbr, 29th in passer rating, 27th in completion percentage, 23rd in yards, and watson has thrown 4 tds and had 5 turnovers
Heads gotta roll . Or at least one head gotta roll to send a message to the rest of the team. One player , and one coach, and one management. Start there, let’s see if this lights a fire under these professionals who are behaving like amateurs. The season is lost barring a drastic across the board change .
I'm disappointed in Quincy. You and him usely the only guys I can watch after a lost. But he have fallen in the crowd that wants to blame Dw4 every game. He seem to not understand the role a bad offensive line plays. I know dw4 hasn't been good. But if the business building falls around me how can I run the business.
My theory G& Quincy you used to give the dogs meat on the bone but recently this season your shows have been too the fans. BONE and FORGET the MEAT ( let us all be reminded to where we have come from) you want to be real can't be friends with a lot of people😮😮😮😮😮😮
G Bush thanks for being the only guy that actually tells the truth in the Cleveland media about Stefanski. He is the problem bro. No way in hell Watson was the problem today. Unlike the rest of the team, he's gotten better each week, and would have had close to 300 if not for the drops and poor line play
The offense…..scored 10 points….against the Raiders. THE OFFENSE SCORED 10 POINTS!!! QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS GUY WHEN FLACCO TORE IT UP WITH THE SAME TEAM
No preseason reps to help install the nu offense. No preseason to help the nu coaching staff with nu roles. For example, y do Kev have a career QB coach/OC (Tommy Rees) coaching the TEs instead of being just the QB coach? Kev has experience coaching the TE room. Kevin can give the playcalling duties to Ken and Kevin can take over the TE room while Rees can coach the QB instead of Grant who was the Offensive Quality (a position we don't have on the roster). The Browns have no running game coordinator on the staff this year. Dickerson has experience there, but no one official has that title. U have Diva QB that doesn't want a design run in a spread/RPO offense. We have an all pro DE who doesn't want to defend the run We have Schwartz who wants to play zone instead of playing press man defense There is no identity on either side.
If I’m buying merchandise and attempting to come 1 one game a year to give this organization my hard earned funds, then I can happily state I would like Stefanski fired and Deposhit. I want Mike Vrabel hired as head coach for the next 5 years.
As a former teacher who sometimes gave students the layup and told them exactly what’s gonna be on the exam, the students who were too lazy, too incompetent to take advantage of the spoon fed credit I was trying to hand them were trash in my eyes.
We are gonna be alright.Offensive line gotta get better.Bad holding call on that pass play. Run the ball at 4th and 3.we had time outs.We gotta roll withe team..
The Browns need a real HC and a separate Play Caller. Not a HC pretending to be a Play Caller. Also, AB made a huge blunder by not cutting Conklin, Teller, and Bitonio and freeing up the money to go after younger and more dependable O-Linemen. They should have never been resigned at the ridiculous amounts they were offered because they are over 30, injury prone, and washed.
Been a Browns fan for 68 years now and KS is as clueless as I've every seen. No discipline no accountability no adjustments no teaching..Same stupid crap week after week year after year. I have been watching a BAD team for 4 years now. Flacco saved his butt last year..COY..Whata joke!!
It’s obviously stefanski. Didnt you see him drop that ball on a wide open pass, or how about when he held on a Amari Cooper TD. My favorite was when Kevin went out there and missed an extra point so we couldn’t tie the game at the end. Cant believe Kevin did all that.
This team has given up already. Everyone knows this is due to a poor front office.they hired the coach, the Scouts, draft and sign the players. Stefanski got credit for the energy and confidence brought by Joe Flacco last year. No way this guy is a coach of the year caliber coach. Flacco came from an organization that has pride and confidence in their play. This franchise has none of that. If they did players would be in shape and not tolerate the lazy sloppy play we see week after week.
Thank you Garrett Bush, for telling the truth 🔥 some of the sissified "male" fans are jealous and feel insecure, inadequate, impotent, and emasculated by Watson. They say he needs to be humble, and he has been humble since playing for Cleveland. Sometimes the defense is right in his face and he doesn't even have a passing lane. Then he has to take off and scramble around so he may miss seeing a receiver. The offensive line has been awful. I'm glad he said something to Jones. The coaches need to say something and do something about that offensive line. The receivers haven't been great either. Watson played a very good game this time.
Watson is not a savior. Exactly why they shoukd not have traded 3#1's a 3r and 2 4rs to Houston to acquire him ! Exactly why the should not have made him a 72.9 million $ cap hit ! This team needs a he'll of alot more than a QB !
I don't care about anything but the offensive line is offensive. They have all the moving parts to make it work, it's the parts that are supposed to move very little that are bad. Watson played his ass off all day, and he had to because everytime he looked up he had an Oakland Raider in his face. And I don't care, you can't blame that on anyone but the offensive line. The Browns should have gone for a couple more offensive guards and tackles. If Watson hasn't got time to go through his progressions, games over.
Plenty of people are blaming Berry & have been, yall are funny Thousands of fans are blaming Watson. Thousands of fans are blaming Stefanski. Thousands of fans are blaming Berry. Thousands of fans blame the Haslams. Thousands of fans even blame Paul DePodesta. Just pick who you blame & join your respective club lol
People do this after every loss they blame the camp they want to blame that they think has been the problem all year. Its funny for to to watch all the fans argue about whos right and wrong when it seems to be everyone right now.
@RenitentHat5269 every team does this too...bet you this morning there are people in Buffalo who are going back to Sean McDermott being awful, Josh Allen being overrated, their GM not addressing skill positions etc...just a few weeks ago it was people in Baltimore getting on a pedestal wanting Harbaugh gone...you're right it is entertaining to watch. Almost as entertaining as watching the sport itself lol what's funny is at the end of the day we're a bunch of fans that have absolutely no stake in the result of our teams; we don't make decisions, we don't write the contracts, call the plays, make the draft picks, or take any of the snaps ourselves so really we're just a bunch of nobodies puffing out our chests thinking we know everything lol that's why I never got into pro sports as a kid cause it seemed so stupid but at this point in my life it really is kinda fun haha
Our run game left with Bill Callahan. I love Nick Chubb, but if we plug and play him in this offense, with this run scheme, behind this O-line... He'll look like a shell of himself...people will blame the injury...and he'll be back on the IR by the end of the season.
How do you explain Joe Flaco coming from the bench today and beat the Steelers throwing two touchdowns not practicing all week and did the same thing with Cleveland last year
Flaco is a Super Bowl winning quarterback and has the basics and advanced quarterback skills that wins all the time like Tom Brady and Payton manning and Breeze who won tons of games with basic football that only joe burrow who beats the Steelers and the Ravens and the Chiefs like a drum because of his basic quarterback play
@@scanner743 I dunno if Flacco would look like he did last year if he was on this team. They are playing musical chairs with the O-Line, due to all the injuries, so Flacco would probably be sacked as soon as the ball was snapped to him. Plus they can't run the ball, so his play action is out the window.
I grew up at Municipal stadium where no sh$@ fans had sex under bleachers,did coke,smoke multiple substances and we had NOWHERE TO RUN FROM THE COLD. I love the Browns and hate how we are playing. How do we as a team knowing our run game lol is no run game without Chubb,how do we not get a good RB? We don't need to keep him for many years just to fill in!!! Omg if teams KNOW we are not gonna run they ain't gota worry about preparing for it.
You know, aside from less than desirable personnel, the oline doesnt know their assignments. They dont who their supposed to block or where their supposed to go.
Watch any other team play. They are professional and fast, in the game. Something is going on with this team. We never come to a game prepared, fired up and professionally do your job. Stupid mistakes every game. If I hear Stefanski say one more time "I have to do a better job" I'm gonna loose it. AGAIN, the play calls suck. The offensive plays are simple and slow, no imagination. No holes to run through. Execution is crap. They need two yards they through long. Need 3rd and 9, receiver runs 7 to 8 yards. Top to bottom, the Browns are a joke year after year.
If it ain't Watson's fault we lost all are 1st round picks and all we could've saved with just keeping Baker. And the team we could've built up. By the way Baker BALLIN, and I think we definitely could've won a SB with Bake
Refs calling back Watson to Cooper play is just cheating, this is da nfl they do late flags and stuff, Watson starting to get in riddim, Entire team and staff just has to improve.
Show me when Jed Wills Jr did his Job gurantee it got a penalty. I was with you Bush until that one they dnt like The NFL Rockstar Deshaun Watson Mr.Bionic himself but it's okay I was just telling them bout they self. An I had high hopes for all of the OLine I said Deshaun Watson going to be awsome with the Browns oline cause all I heard was dominants from the Oline. But 2 of them I haven't even seen that why. Nick Chubb injury was way more gruesome then Jed and Jack Deshaun Watson Broke the bone on his Throwing arm. Yall forget bout the broken ribs and almost punctured lung yeah so shut it. Yall cant say nothing jack got that contract and I have not seen that dominants except from Teller Darby Allen I'm blanking on his Joel botnio. An I saw all them comment bout race that ignorant stuff really. Miserable ppl talk like that. When the simple solution right in there face go watch the buc go watch that team Joe play on. I still believe in Dawan Jones un tapped potential
Exactly he's a scared coach afraid of his players so he gets soft players who won't get in his face about how the team is doing and what different is he going to do (especially at halftimeeeeeeee!!!)
Nobody should be upset or disappointed who have been watching football since the 1970s.....the Brown's have been mediocre except 5 or 6 different seasons, since the SUPERBOWL era......so this is normal for the Cleveland Brown's....enjoying the NFL and iam not disappointed because the Brown's are the Browns......😅😊....✌🏽👌🏽
Thank you G Bush truth. I told u the energy was off. In Cleveland the season is not over but that's all I see fans saying wow!
Appreciate you G. Bush, DW4 balled, but O Line play has us at a 1and 3 record.
He had a 36.7 qbr. Watson did not ball out in any way 😂
The refs whooped us at the end though
Horrible holding call. That was the difference between a W and an L.
Lets just face it, The Browns make bad teams look good.Facts are Facts.
I was a Watson fan until recently, but stopped being one because he simply doesn't produce enough. But he had a hell of a game man. That throw that cooper dropped was sick and the one Jeudy dropped too. Also, had like an 80 yard touchdown called back. Very encouraging
DeShaun played his a** off. If you don't think so, you're just a hater.
He’s lookin good-er
No, people just have higher expectations than 0 2nd half points.
@@StayPuftMarshmellowwatch the game, not the box score
@@rayshawnclark716I did watch the game and the offense still scored 0 points after the first quarter.
@@StayPuftMarshmellowyeah answer this goofy why didn’t they score points.
Its not the refs, altho it was bs, it shouldnt have made the difference in the game. We start out great, then gradually decline. No disapline, coaching getting clueless. Piss poor tackling, no excitement in the team. Watson did fine i believe. He cant carry the team on his back, guys need to step up. Watson had the passion, no doubt.
21:32 GBush 💯 🎯... Browns DO NOT have a gameday HC because the titled HC wants to play OC on gameday. No game management, lack of discipline, lack of holistic in-game leadership
This loss had nothing to do with Watson sorry hater’s
Please say it again!!
You sure about that? His record and stats are in the basement of the league regardless of what you want to tell yourself.
@@StayPuftMarshmellowwatch a game and don’t just look at the box score. Watson was great today
@@rayshawnclark716I’ve watched every game he’s played for the browns. Same story, turnovers, missed reads, guys running wide open and he’s holding the ball getting sacked. You guys give him all the credit for what goes right and none of the blame for what goes wrong. He got spotted 6 points by the defense and still disappeared in the 2nd quarter. Ya cooper had a horrible drop, watson was also late on the throw and threw into quadruple coverage. Ya there was a horrible call negating a td, watson still didn’t see two wide open guys on the last play. Enjoy your excuses and participation trophies, his record is 1-3 and his stats are at the bottom of the league. He has the worst epa of any browns qb since 99. This is your dude?
@@StayPuftMarshmellow you are on every single comment giving Watson credit talking dumb. If you watched this game and think the loss is on Watson, you don’t know what you are talking about. How many times can a $20 mil dollar receiver drop an easy catch? We. Lead.The.League.In.Drops. Penalties. Pressures. Sacks. Our defense allowed the worse running game in football look like world beaters. Missed xp means we can’t go down and kick a field goal and take momentum into OT and try and get a win. We have 0 INTs on the year. Ford averages 2 yards per carry. Keep blaming Watson. I guess everything I posted is his fault too. Guess those other guys aren’t being paid millions too. You hate him and that clouds your judgement on his play. Even when he was 4-1 last year y’all still complain. Go watch some games
Stefanski passing offense ranking 2020-2023:
24th. 27th. 22nd. 19th.
It doesn’t work!! We need a miracle
Wow, Stefanski is a terrible quarterback.
Not a coincidence either
Flacco led nfl in yards the 5 weeks he played last year. Just saying.
@@Wade-22lol yea why is stefanski the worst qb in the nfl right now. He ranks dead last in qbr
Hey GB, there is enough blame to spread around everywhere in the organization. The owner, the front office, the players on both sides of the ball, and ALL of the coaches.
You spittin! Bill Callahan was irreplaceable!
I'm blaming 50%o line and 50%THE GODAMN REFS! THE REFS ARE GETTING RIDICULOUS THROUGHOUT THE LEAGUE AND IT NEEDS TO BE AN ISSUE!
Son, that is a weekly occurrence. At the end of last season, we decimated our assistant coaching staff. The OL coach was allowed to leave, and then we wonder why the O Line stinks? Still, Stefanski calls a miserable game with his ancient offensive scheme.
On defense, the Browns have not figured out that they are suseptible certain plays. Plays that attack the outer edges of our defense. It's time for some tough talk and changes to be made.
Block better
Tackle better
Catch better
Watson is definitely better, much better
Watson now ranks dead last in qbr. 32nd in the nfl. Keep lying to urself.
14-3 we getting fired up.
This loss wasn’t on Deshaun. The Oline is old, broke down, hobbled and slow. Cooper can’t catch a cold and our run game left with Nick Chubb. That’s the beginning and end of the story.
It was on him tho, including his record, which is 1-3. They’re no asterisks.
lol yeah I’ll listen to a females take 😂😂😂😂. Cooper is the best receiver we have. Judy can’t catch a damn thing.
Our run game left with Bill Callahan. I love Nick Chubb, but if we plug and play him in this offense, with this run scheme, behind this O-line... He'll look like a shell of himself...people will blame the injury...and he'll be back on the IR by the end of the season.
The offense…..scored 10 points….against the Raiders. THE OFFENSE SCORED 10 POINTS!!! QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS GUY WHEN FLACCO TORE IT UP WITH THE SAME TEAM
Also Gbush, I’m tired of seeing Jim Schwartz’s 4-2-5 defense with 5 DB’s in game is getting punched in the mouth. Every time Jim Schwartz called his, easy to see coming, SAW DOG(Sam & will) edge blitz the raiders gashed his group. He’s called that blitz about 15-20 times this season so far with a low success rate. The same blitz that Greg Newsome got a penalty on in the giants game that negated an interception.
Wait is a sec, is Jim Schwartz that old weird lookin white dude standing in Joe Woods' spot cause I was confused about that Joe must have been out this week with a cold or somethin? I'm glad this Schwartz fella can at least do all the same stuff Joe Woods can do though or else I would have been worried 😅
Finally, people are seeing our problem isn't Wataon!
In this season of the NFL the winners have scored 20 points or more and the teams who scored less than 20 points , they lost and the facts are points come from the passing game with the good combination of good OL and good WRs and good coaching and good quarterback
I just realized we haven’t scored 20 points in a game this year 🤯🤬🗑️
I was waiting on you my boy I’m tuned in
Let’s face it, although problems extend beyond our QB, DW and Stefanski just dont mix. If we keep Stefanski, we MUST get a QB who can complement his play call style, not contrast it smh
Watson played well today it’s not his fault today I thought he did his job it was almost everybody else today it was the most unorganized football game I seen the Browns play today I want to know who is leading this team man this team has no direction or fire 🔥 I just want to see this team get pissed off at somebody anybody show some emotions this team has no identity none I think we need to go back way back to where you get paid by the game no more big checks until you prove yourself how about that coaches too or maybe we need some big changes ❤what’s up g bush great show
Good is losing to one of the worst teams in the nfl and not even breaking 200 yds.
@@StayPuftMarshmellowyet he would’ve had 250+ if the Oline didn’t cost a 80 yard TD, and Coop could catch. You hating in every single comment life must be sad fr.
@@showtimehighlights9664 my life is great but I’m sick of hearing the endless excuses. It’s not hate, I’m a pissed off fan. Ya’ll endlessly defending this crappy qb is what’s sad. I was calling this since the trade and arguing with watson fanboys. Now there’s proof this trade ruined the team and yet ya’ll continue to defend this crap. Since you have to attack me personally can you admit you lost the argument?
Watson was the only one who showed up ready to play and played well. Everyone else just didn't want to be there
Holy crap! I was watching the Ravens game and they look like a finely tuned machine! It was such a contrast compared to our offense.😮
BRING BACK HUE “I’LL SUE”, JACKSON. He’s available to start work today.
Then they can acquire 5 first round picks.
🕯🕯Just tired man been a fan since Sipe/qb...we had hope with Kosar...now we see how the team from last year just got old overnight.. O line is shot, D line crumbled,, Watson average at best...hate to say it, THIS WINDOW IS CLOSED..we will just limp along until the next REBUILD...see ya next year...I'm done.
Indeed. The window on the 2018 team era closed at the end of last season. We have to hope for 1-7 to bring an end to the Stefanski era. It hurts because we love the Browns. But surgery is rarely bloodless. Berry should go at the end of the year too.
I believe that Watson will be benched when we get to 1-4. He will be Stefanski’s final scapegoat. Even if Berry orders Stefanski to give up play calling, it will not significantly improve this team. What bump we get this season will come when Stefanski is replaced Vrabel, presumably. We need a cultural change and that has to start with the coach. That is the one change we can make midseason.
I am getting old and have accepted the fact that I might not live long enough to see the Browns make the Super Bowl. Don’t laugh, it’s been 59 years since we were in the title game, and 60 years since we won. If you had told my preadolescent self that I would be 70 and the Browns still would not have ever been to the Super Bowl, I would have laughed at you. But it’s true. I have been in Chicago for more than 40 years. And, we are no closer to the Super Bowl than when I left Ohio.
I have given up. I like to watch GBush, especially after a loss, like I used to watch Bruce on Sports Time Ohio after they lost. I will still do my mock drafts too. But I can’t watch this slop masquerading as NFL football anymore. Not when I look around the league and so many teams are getting their sh$t together, or already have it together. We deserved better than this. They take our loyalty and money, and spit in our faces. Year after year. I knew this year was going to end in disappointment as long as Stefanski was the head coach. What I did not know is that it would happen so soon.
Every problem that you mentioned rests with the Haslam’s. They put the team in this position when they made the DW deal, and while he was not playing the other players aged out or injuried out and the Haslams gave away the draft picks and salary that would have helped maintain the personnel. But sadly we are stuck with the Haslams and their clown show.
Kevin S. And the other non player personnel just reflect the Haslams’ incompetence.
If we are going to ask Watson to be special. Everyone putting on the uniform on the team need to be special that claim to superstars on our team. I was at the game and it felt like home game we the fans showed up, cheered, and represented. I need my team to do the same. Go Browns.
@@zuriharris9858 the Browns are a factory of sadness. You would be better served to become a Steelers fan.
G. Bush giving Mary Kay questions she need to be asking Kevin Stefanski...
If we had 10 other guys playing with Watson heart we win that game
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
You know those 10 other guys were ready to go 2 years ago when he was suspended and injured…they are old now we missed the window
@@Ress330 cooper, joel and ethan yes! Moore wasn’t here, jerry wasn’t, ford was a rookie, jones wasn’t here, akins wasn’t….u would have a point but those guys are hurt and not playing these other guys have no excuse! Jerry the only one playing worth anything
Facts they was looking like they don’t even know the plays
Been critical of Watson but this time it wast on him. The defense is porous as hell and the OL sucks
I'm tired of everything being Watson's fault. Address these weak tackles, weak blocks, dropped balls... ridiculous play calls..protect the QB!! He has 3 seconds to lift his arm before he's sacked!!
Totally agree with you G Bush, definitely a culture/identity issue! In the AFC North, we THRIVE when we have a solid run game. We are and have always been a run first team! We will never convert to an air raid/spread offense. Our DNA lives within the run smh
Why do you like your own comments? It literally said posted 5 seconds ago after I refreshed …
G you talking facts tonight. It’s always Watson this Watson that. They just Watson haters and not real Browns fans.
Right, real browns fans stick by the 1-3 qb that’s literally ruining the team. The trade and contract killed this team. Enjoy your massage parlor qb.
@@StayPuftMarshmellowgoofy softer than a marshmallow
@@StayPuftMarshmellow Take ya ass Tampa bay we don’t need ya and damn sure don’t want ya 💯💯
GBush is a Watson hater too...he just choose this one game not to be a Watson hater. Most all of them talk bad about Watson.
Cooper quit on the team.
We need fire and Vrabel brings the energy and tenacity. Don’t necessarily wanna see Kev get fired but maybe this team needs Vrabel at the helm and Dorsey calling the offense.
5 wide on 3 and 2......gtfoh
@@thisizcle140empty backfield behind that line 😅😅
When you give away the store with draft picks and money then what do we expect. You cant grow linemen on a tree. They are drafted and bought in free agency but we ain’t got no juice left! Sorry this is management and coaching shortcomings period.
2024 Watson stat update: heading into week 5 Watson ranks 32nd in qbr, 29th in passer rating, 27th in completion percentage, 23rd in yards, and watson has thrown 4 tds and had 5 turnovers
Heads gotta roll . Or at least one head gotta roll to send a message to the rest of the team. One player , and one coach, and one management. Start there, let’s see if this lights a fire under these professionals who are behaving like amateurs. The season is lost barring a drastic across the board change .
I'm disappointed in Quincy. You and him usely the only guys I can watch after a lost. But he have fallen in the crowd that wants to blame Dw4 every game. He seem to not understand the role a bad offensive line plays.
I know dw4 hasn't been good. But if the business building falls around me how can I run the business.
My theory G& Quincy you used to give the dogs meat on the bone but recently this season your shows have been too the fans. BONE and FORGET the MEAT ( let us all be reminded to where we have come from) you want to be real can't be friends with a lot of people😮😮😮😮😮😮
Watson ranks 32nd in qbr this year. Dead last.
Deshawn Watson is back !!! I hate too say it but it’s time Stefanski gets some real questioning damn we suck as a whole smh F+%K 🗑️🗑️🗑️
G Bush thanks for being the only guy that actually tells the truth in the Cleveland media about Stefanski. He is the problem bro. No way in hell Watson was the problem today. Unlike the rest of the team, he's gotten better each week, and would have had close to 300 if not for the drops and poor line play
Maybe Njoku and Chubb can bring some energy and game changing plays we need to get going effectively on offense.
Ill keep saying it.....Watson does not fit this offense. Cooler and Njoku flourished when Flacco was there
Watson is the one that don't get the blame
230 mil reasons he gets all the blame.
The offense…..scored 10 points….against the Raiders. THE OFFENSE SCORED 10 POINTS!!! QUIT MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS GUY WHEN FLACCO TORE IT UP WITH THE SAME TEAM
Maybe he should have been throwing the ball and handing off to himself and playing defense since he is expected to do everything.
No preseason reps to help install the nu offense.
No preseason to help the nu coaching staff with nu roles.
For example, y do Kev have a career QB coach/OC (Tommy Rees) coaching the TEs instead of being just the QB coach? Kev has experience coaching the TE room. Kevin can give the playcalling duties to Ken and Kevin can take over the TE room while Rees can coach the QB instead of Grant who was the Offensive Quality (a position we don't have on the roster). The Browns have no running game coordinator on the staff this year. Dickerson has experience there, but no one official has that title.
U have Diva QB that doesn't want a design run in a spread/RPO offense.
We have an all pro DE who doesn't want to defend the run
We have Schwartz who wants to play zone instead of playing press man defense
There is no identity on either side.
We HAVE to fix these offensive and defensive issues in order to go on a streak. We gotta be 7-3 by the bye week. If we lose to the Redskins it’s over.
Real DAWG in D house 👍😎💯 it's oily...w8 4 it! Let em run...dey gitn hongray😎👍💥
I’m disappointed in just how flat the Browns look. The execution is just awful.
The Browns fan base is toxic! They don't know 💩. They wanna blame everything on DW. It doesn't help with Stef just calling crazy plays.
You mean like the toxic fanbase that chased Mayfield away for the current 1-3 bum?
Curse of the DAWGZ? Hell no, people... this is BELIEVE LAND 😎👍💥🇺🇲💯
It's not just The Browns. Every fanbase is toxic. Lol
The buck stops at the head coaches desk and no one is there..He's too busy planning 4 yard pass plays he can use on 4th and 15.
If you think the offence is designed for Watson to throw a 2-6 'yard pas every play their is no hope of explaining it to you.
@@jasoncampbell5518 he is probably one of those same guys last year who thought we ran a “different” offense with Flacco. 😂
I didn't even watch and I knew the lost
It's Elementary My Dear Watson,its (Coaching)
Sydney Australia in the house.....
FIRE STEFANSKI
FIRE AB
If I’m buying merchandise and attempting to come 1 one game a year to give this organization my hard earned funds, then I can happily state I would like Stefanski fired and Deposhit. I want Mike Vrabel hired as head coach for the next 5 years.
1 td on offense all game. Got to be more productive than that. Happens too much when watson is the qb
CATCHING WHAT CATCHING??????
As a former teacher who sometimes gave students the layup and told them exactly what’s gonna be on the exam, the students who were too lazy, too incompetent to take advantage of the spoon fed credit I was trying to hand them were trash in my eyes.
The air conditioner wind in the dome blew the extra point kick.
The same one that messed up the trajectory of the ball by blowing it directly into Cooper's chest.
😂😂😂 I love this. Real deal content
Don't let Jay & Bull goofy asses blame DW for this one... He was far from perfect!!!!!! But this one is on coaching!!!!!!!!!!!!
We are gonna be alright.Offensive line gotta get better.Bad holding call on that pass play. Run the ball at 4th and 3.we had time outs.We gotta roll withe team..
I don’t see how the Browns are really going to score with that OLine and dropped balls. Plus no run game. Just 4 games in so time to right the ship.
The Browns need a real HC and a separate Play Caller. Not a HC pretending to be a Play Caller. Also, AB made a huge blunder by not cutting Conklin, Teller, and Bitonio and freeing up the money to go after younger and more dependable O-Linemen. They should have never been resigned at the ridiculous amounts they were offered because they are over 30, injury prone, and washed.
The Browns look like they creating a offense for the dome. I don't see any physicality on either side of the ball. Nick Chubb gave us an identity.
Been a Browns fan for 68 years now and KS is as clueless as I've every seen. No discipline no accountability no adjustments no teaching..Same stupid crap week after week year after year. I have been watching a BAD team for 4 years now. Flacco saved his butt last year..COY..Whata joke!!
But he has won it twice. It’s not just on him, and if you believe so, in your convoluted mind, I wish you the best of luck.
It’s obviously stefanski. Didnt you see him drop that ball on a wide open pass, or how about when he held on a Amari Cooper TD. My favorite was when Kevin went out there and missed an extra point so we couldn’t tie the game at the end. Cant believe Kevin did all that.
This team has given up already. Everyone knows this is due to a poor front office.they hired the coach, the Scouts, draft and sign the players. Stefanski got credit for the energy and confidence brought by Joe Flacco last year. No way this guy is a coach of the year caliber coach. Flacco came from an organization that has pride and confidence in their play. This franchise has none of that. If they did players would be in shape and not tolerate the lazy sloppy play we see week after week.
Thank you Garrett Bush, for telling the truth 🔥 some of the sissified "male" fans are jealous and feel insecure, inadequate, impotent, and emasculated by Watson. They say he needs to be humble, and he has been humble since playing for Cleveland. Sometimes the defense is right in his face and he doesn't even have a passing lane. Then he has to take off and scramble around so he may miss seeing a receiver. The offensive line has been awful. I'm glad he said something to Jones. The coaches need to say something and do something about that offensive line. The receivers haven't been great either. Watson played a very good game this time.
Nick Harris snapped the ball 1st and 10 inside the 20
Watson is not a savior. Exactly why they shoukd not have traded 3#1's a 3r and 2 4rs to Houston to acquire him ! Exactly why the should not have made him a 72.9 million $ cap hit ! This team needs a he'll of alot more than a QB !
Agree. Watson not worth any of those draft picks. Worst trade in nfl history
I wholeheartedly agree with you GW about the old line stinks
I don't care about anything but the offensive line is offensive. They have all the moving parts to make it work, it's the parts that are supposed to move very little that are bad.
Watson played his ass off all day, and he had to because everytime he looked up he had an Oakland Raider in his face. And I don't care, you can't blame that on anyone but the offensive line. The Browns should have gone for a couple more offensive guards and tackles. If Watson hasn't got time to go through his progressions, games over.
Foreman returning kicks I know Cleveland coaches incompetent
bro 😂😂💯
G bush I hear you say to Amari: " CREAM ALWAYS RISES TO THE TOP 🎉🎉
Why is no one blaming Andrew Berry? He does not know how to draft and spends millions on bad players.
𝑰𝒎 𝒘𝒊𝒕𝒉 𝒖 𝑩𝒆𝒓𝒓𝒚 𝒋𝒖𝒔𝒕 𝒔𝒊𝒕𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒈𝒆𝒕𝒕𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒄𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒆𝒅 𝒐𝒖𝒕. 𝑰𝒅𝒌 𝒊𝒇 𝒖 𝒉𝒆𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝒊𝒕 𝒐𝒏 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒈𝒂𝒎𝒆 𝑰 𝑫𝑰𝑫... 𝑰𝒕 𝒘𝒂𝒔 𝒂 𝒑𝒂𝒖𝒔𝒆 𝒔𝒐𝒎𝒆𝒃𝒐𝒅𝒚 𝒔𝒂𝒊𝒅 𝒊𝒕𝒔 𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏 𝒐𝒖𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒘𝒉𝒐 𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒉𝒆𝒍𝒑
Plenty of people are blaming Berry & have been, yall are funny
Thousands of fans are blaming Watson. Thousands of fans are blaming Stefanski. Thousands of fans are blaming Berry. Thousands of fans blame the Haslams. Thousands of fans even blame Paul DePodesta. Just pick who you blame & join your respective club lol
People do this after every loss they blame the camp they want to blame that they think has been the problem all year. Its funny for to to watch all the fans argue about whos right and wrong when it seems to be everyone right now.
Hard to blame the man buying the ingredients when the cook has proven hes not really very good.
@RenitentHat5269 every team does this too...bet you this morning there are people in Buffalo who are going back to Sean McDermott being awful, Josh Allen being overrated, their GM not addressing skill positions etc...just a few weeks ago it was people in Baltimore getting on a pedestal wanting Harbaugh gone...you're right it is entertaining to watch. Almost as entertaining as watching the sport itself lol what's funny is at the end of the day we're a bunch of fans that have absolutely no stake in the result of our teams; we don't make decisions, we don't write the contracts, call the plays, make the draft picks, or take any of the snaps ourselves so really we're just a bunch of nobodies puffing out our chests thinking we know everything lol that's why I never got into pro sports as a kid cause it seemed so stupid but at this point in my life it really is kinda fun haha
Our run game left with Bill Callahan. I love Nick Chubb, but if we plug and play him in this offense, with this run scheme, behind this O-line... He'll look like a shell of himself...people will blame the injury...and he'll be back on the IR by the end of the season.
Facts and teams will load the box
How do you explain Joe Flaco coming from the bench today and beat the Steelers throwing two touchdowns not practicing all week and did the same thing with Cleveland last year
Man, Shut Up!! FLACCO is in Indianapolis! Go cheer for them! Stop faking like you're a Browns Fan! Freaking "Jabroni's" be killing me, damn.
Better OLine, better receivers, great RB, and finally a way better head coach and playcalling.
He thrived in Stefanski's ancient high school offense because that was the era he was brought up in.
Flaco is a Super Bowl winning quarterback and has the basics and advanced quarterback skills that wins all the time like Tom Brady and Payton manning and Breeze who won tons of games with basic football that only joe burrow who beats the Steelers and the Ravens and the Chiefs like a drum because of his basic quarterback play
@@scanner743 I dunno if Flacco would look like he did last year if he was on this team. They are playing musical chairs with the O-Line, due to all the injuries, so Flacco would probably be sacked as soon as the ball was snapped to him. Plus they can't run the ball, so his play action is out the window.
Cannot use the excuse that it is early anymore when you are four games in.
That line was 12 grade great
missed extra point was killer
The QB doesnt see what we see. They are on the ground.
At least it would make sense if they didn't block for DW4 because they didn't like him......but actually its just because they F'ING SUCK!!!!!
I'm wondering if Bill Callahan's assistant from last year was available to be our offensive line coach 🤔
i think at this point Kevin is just praying on Chubb and Njoku next week. even then commanders been playing lights out
Still, the DAWGZ did something... just beginning to get hongray fo a dub bone 😎👍💯
I be at the game Sunday can’t wait
Thanks!
I grew up at Municipal stadium where no sh$@ fans had sex under bleachers,did coke,smoke multiple substances and we had NOWHERE TO RUN FROM THE COLD. I love the Browns and hate how we are playing. How do we as a team knowing our run game lol is no run game without Chubb,how do we not get a good RB? We don't need to keep him for many years just to fill in!!! Omg if teams KNOW we are not gonna run they ain't gota worry about preparing for it.
Watson played a solid game. Overall he’s been a disaster but he’s definitely part of the bigger overall problem.
That coaching staff sucks
You know, aside from less than desirable personnel, the oline doesnt know their assignments. They dont who their supposed to block or where their supposed to go.
Watch any other team play. They are professional and fast, in the game. Something is going on with this team. We never come to a game prepared, fired up and professionally do your job. Stupid mistakes every game. If I hear Stefanski say one more time "I have to do a better job" I'm gonna loose it. AGAIN, the play calls suck. The offensive plays are simple and slow, no imagination. No holes to run through. Execution is crap. They need two yards they through long. Need 3rd and 9, receiver runs 7 to 8 yards. Top to bottom, the Browns are a joke year after year.
If it ain't Watson's fault we lost all are 1st round picks and all we could've saved with just keeping Baker. And the team we could've built up. By the way Baker BALLIN, and I think we definitely could've won a SB with Bake
DW didn't lose this game but he didn't win it either
Refs calling back Watson to Cooper play is just cheating, this is da nfl they do late flags and stuff, Watson starting to get in riddim, Entire team and staff just has to improve.
Show me when Jed Wills Jr did his Job gurantee it got a penalty. I was with you Bush until that one they dnt like The NFL Rockstar Deshaun Watson Mr.Bionic himself but it's okay I was just telling them bout they self. An I had high hopes for all of the OLine I said Deshaun Watson going to be awsome with the Browns oline cause all I heard was dominants from the Oline. But 2 of them I haven't even seen that why. Nick Chubb injury was way more gruesome then Jed and Jack Deshaun Watson Broke the bone on his Throwing arm. Yall forget bout the broken ribs and almost punctured lung yeah so shut it. Yall cant say nothing jack got that contract and I have not seen that dominants except from Teller Darby Allen I'm blanking on his Joel botnio. An I saw all them comment bout race that ignorant stuff really. Miserable ppl talk like that. When the simple solution right in there face go watch the buc go watch that team Joe play on. I still believe in Dawan Jones un tapped potential
I would like to see that play if it was pass interference I was watching or listening to the game
I think Ks is soft. He needs to flip out..get a penalty himself. Show some fire and anger bruh
Exactly he's a scared coach afraid of his players so he gets soft players who won't get in his face about how the team is doing and what different is he going to do
(especially at halftimeeeeeeee!!!)
This offensive line does need freshened up. Some depth would be nice. But to go from first to last... seems it's a scheme problem
Nobody should be upset or disappointed who have been watching football since the 1970s.....the Brown's have been mediocre except 5 or 6 different seasons, since the SUPERBOWL era......so this is normal for the Cleveland Brown's....enjoying the NFL and iam not disappointed because the Brown's are the Browns......😅😊....✌🏽👌🏽