Don't know if it's been mentioned but you can use exorcism, hand of reckoning (which does damage if u cast immediately as you use exorcism), followed by an avengers shield straight after as the taunt doesn't use a gcd. That's my go-to opener for a good head start on threat 👌 I've seen this macro'd but I'm lazy.
I’ve started using seal of vengeance only due to hammer of right and avengers shield procing the stacks of vengeance on every target it hits allowing consecration to be insane as well as follow up hammer of rights. Used to use seal of command but not anymore.
I don't know if you have it inside one of the other themes, but I didn't see a section for professions. Most people keep saying Eng/Jewl combo, which gives you no matts.
Cool video man a lot of info I can benefit from, but a few notes. I personally use Reck over devotion aura because i find its not so easy to maintain agro sometimes with BIS geared dps as im still in blues from just dinging 80 , and the reck offers some extra dmg and threat. Also I was using seal of righteousness when single target tanking cause i wasnt aware of the glyph for seal of vengeance and I was getting 5 points in holy for the extra dmg on my seals. Im not sure if its worth it to ditch the seal cause ive noticed the extra dps does help me maintain agro better than the seal of vengeance was. Thanks for the video and im looking forward to hearing back from you.
maximazing threat ... how to do it when you drain your mana with like 10 spells? I focus only on strength and stamina points, but as result my mana capacity is too low imo.
improved devo is usually specced into by hpala's so its kinda of a waste of talent points.. might want to pick it up if ur in a raid with no hpalas though.
Late comment, but a holy paladin is usually gonna have the concentration aura or the elemental resist aura for aura mastery. Even if they're specced in you won't benefit by it. It's 3 points and you get benefits. Also Armor is way more important later on especially icc so the 1% ish you get from the talent counts
reckoning is way better IMO, i have a 3900gs prot pala and MT for my guild, the devotion aura isnt gonna make or break a raid, at 1205 armor w/o the buff its 1% extra dmg mitigation, so with +50% to devo armor thats only around 1.5% dmg mitigation to physical dmg. the 6% healing is kinda whatever too. for every 1000 hp on a heal, youre netting +60 healing added. so a 2400 heal is doing 2544 heal. those numbers are so small, thats not going to make or break a raid either. i think killing something 0.5% faster is better than 2% survivability personally. i literally never run devo, its 100% uptime on ret aura unless i have a ret paladin w/ me already running it. ret aura gives more threat because youre constnatly pumping extra dmg on top of your consecration with everything on you. pretty much only warlocks will steal from me when they hit the 2nd round of all their cooldowns and start exploding, occasionally a geared boomie will but thats usually on trash when they over cleave before i can gather packs. reckoning, on the other hand, gives more threat and damage. when you have pumpers you want to also pump as much threat as possible to save your taunt for things that off leash or extra adds/mechanics on certain boss fights. example, in Naxx 10m ill save my shield throw and taunt for adds and taunt one, shield throw the other to bring everything to me then hammer them and let my dps start cleaving. another tip, if youre doing a boss fight that has a mechanic where it targets someone else no matter what for a spell or anything, pop your taunt even if you maintain threat and its going to go right back to you after it casts the spell. if the boss is not actively targetting you, it will do the dmg from the taunt skill to it still. save your "big" taunt (the one that will leash 3 adds to you) and use that as a normal one, usually you should be able to hold it all.
^^ 100% my thought process. changed to this the last 2 weeks as our other tanks were out on vacation. MT'd the world tour and did great! kept my locks down too lol
I just got my prot off-spec set up, and was talking to my GM/main raid tank. He was saying to take reckoning instead of devo aura, and to stack str instead of stam in my gems. His reasoning is that strength = threat, and higher threat means DPS can go off more unrestricted, as well as strength increasing block value. I'd always been told (and have read on multiple sources) that stam stacking is the way to go (as you said here). My plan is to main Holy, but I wouldn't mind learning, and running as a tank once in a while either. But, as someone who is really competitive, I can't stand the idea of being the cause of failure for my team. Are there any merits to what I was told? or should I stick with the stam strat that I am familiar with?
Reckoning is great for threat, yes, but I don’t agree with stacking Strength! I would stick to Stamina because usually tanks won’t have threat issues and ultimately you’re there to soak hits and because there’s now diminishing returns on avoidances, you can get hit more frequently so the only true survival you have besides being crit capped through Defense is through your Stamina if that makes sense?
@@jcbattistoni any amount of hp above 1 is useless, if you're confident that you won't die then go for as much threat as possible but with ulduar you will probably die so go stamina until you're really geared then you might be able to go a mix of str/stam
@@itsego_tvudgment damage is shit for prot pally, so 10% doesn't make much of a difference. Just stick to your taunt glyph so you're sure it doesn't miss. Or glyph of salvation later on when you'll solo tank Light of Dawn or Bane
I aways find it weird watching these videos of self proclaimed pro's yet don't see a single macro on their screen. Just a screen spammed with millions of buttons yet not macros.
This really helped a lot. i still got lots to learn but this will get me on the right track
Don't know if it's been mentioned but you can use exorcism, hand of reckoning (which does damage if u cast immediately as you use exorcism), followed by an avengers shield straight after as the taunt doesn't use a gcd. That's my go-to opener for a good head start on threat 👌 I've seen this macro'd but I'm lazy.
Great notes, I didn’t mention that but that’s a big threat lead for sure!
Man, if you're REALLY lazy you'd macro it lol
@@itsego_tv how can you one click macro it ? or only possible with sequence
I was just gonna say that if he is lazy, the macro is the answer :P@@Flopzalot
Very informative. Thanks.
Nice video man you bring old memories back !
Keep up the good work my guy really good videos
Thanks so much and you’re an absolute legend for the comments :)
Could you list the addons you are using in description? What is that addon just above your main bar at the middle that shows all your auras?
I’ve started using seal of vengeance only due to hammer of right and avengers shield procing the stacks of vengeance on every target it hits allowing consecration to be insane as well as follow up hammer of rights. Used to use seal of command but not anymore.
Do you find Vengeance is better than Command for AOE overall?
@@itsego_tv yeah. When you get those stacks of vengeance up your consecration and hammer of rights are insane aoe. However command is more bursty.
@@1benhouston1 thanks for the notes my friend!
Whoo thank you!!!
Thanks so much for being a sub for a while now!! :D
Hey, great guide.
Wich weakaura are you using?
For which part of my screen??
Fucking love my paladin. Glad to see im not doing it all wrong !!!!!
Have you played Prot Paladin before?
Do you plan to make a Prot Paladin? Let me know!
This is almost a year later but I am! Lvl 27 pally!
I don't know if you have it inside one of the other themes, but I didn't see a section for professions. Most people keep saying Eng/Jewl combo, which gives you no matts.
Those are the best yes but you're right you get no mats. Personally I'd go Engineering and Mining if you're looking for a gathering profession.
Cool video man a lot of info I can benefit from, but a few notes. I personally use Reck over devotion aura because i find its not so easy to maintain agro sometimes with BIS geared dps as im still in blues from just dinging 80 , and the reck offers some extra dmg and threat. Also I was using seal of righteousness when single target tanking cause i wasnt aware of the glyph for seal of vengeance and I was getting 5 points in holy for the extra dmg on my seals. Im not sure if its worth it to ditch the seal cause ive noticed the extra dps does help me maintain agro better than the seal of vengeance was. Thanks for the video and im looking forward to hearing back from you.
Thanks for the notes! I really appreciate it :)
@@itsego_tv Hi I noticed you were using Judgment of Light and not Wisdom wouldnt it be better for mana management to use Wisdom
@@Orangeshark12 Yeah I use Wisdom now haha, Light is more for healers.
Whats your Weakaura showing the spells used floating in the bottom middle of your screen called?
That’s an addon called SpellReplay!!
I used to have mana issues, then I found out about divine plea.
you can also try using blessing of sanctuary that makes a huge difference
maximazing threat ... how to do it when you drain your mana with like 10 spells? I focus only on strength and stamina points, but as result my mana capacity is too low imo.
improved devo is usually specced into by hpala's so its kinda of a waste of talent points.. might want to pick it up if ur in a raid with no hpalas though.
Yeah for sure!
Late comment, but a holy paladin is usually gonna have the concentration aura or the elemental resist aura for aura mastery. Even if they're specced in you won't benefit by it. It's 3 points and you get benefits. Also Armor is way more important later on especially icc so the 1% ish you get from the talent counts
what was that UI/addon scrolling the icons left to right? in the middle. thanks
The addon is called Spell Replay!
9:20 meta gem
I totally can’t remember the name of it
reckoning is way better IMO, i have a 3900gs prot pala and MT for my guild, the devotion aura isnt gonna make or break a raid, at 1205 armor w/o the buff its 1% extra dmg mitigation, so with +50% to devo armor thats only around 1.5% dmg mitigation to physical dmg. the 6% healing is kinda whatever too. for every 1000 hp on a heal, youre netting +60 healing added. so a 2400 heal is doing 2544 heal. those numbers are so small, thats not going to make or break a raid either. i think killing something 0.5% faster is better than 2% survivability personally.
i literally never run devo, its 100% uptime on ret aura unless i have a ret paladin w/ me already running it. ret aura gives more threat because youre constnatly pumping extra dmg on top of your consecration with everything on you. pretty much only warlocks will steal from me when they hit the 2nd round of all their cooldowns and start exploding, occasionally a geared boomie will but thats usually on trash when they over cleave before i can gather packs.
reckoning, on the other hand, gives more threat and damage. when you have pumpers you want to also pump as much threat as possible to save your taunt for things that off leash or extra adds/mechanics on certain boss fights. example, in Naxx 10m ill save my shield throw and taunt for adds and taunt one, shield throw the other to bring everything to me then hammer them and let my dps start cleaving.
another tip, if youre doing a boss fight that has a mechanic where it targets someone else no matter what for a spell or anything, pop your taunt even if you maintain threat and its going to go right back to you after it casts the spell. if the boss is not actively targetting you, it will do the dmg from the taunt skill to it still. save your "big" taunt (the one that will leash 3 adds to you) and use that as a normal one, usually you should be able to hold it all.
Great notes!! Thanks so much for the comment :))
@@stealthyturtles it’s interesting to hear how different your doing the Prot Paladin!!
I’m enjoying it though haha
^^ 100% my thought process. changed to this the last 2 weeks as our other tanks were out on vacation. MT'd the world tour and did great! kept my locks down too lol
@@Mattadin314 i also switched to reckoning for MT haha
What’s your favourite raid to do Ego?
It definitely has to be Naxxramas!
What is the addone that shows the spells at bottom of screen? If its weak aura how to i set that?
The addon is called SpellReplay!
I'll actually be making a subscriber only guide that will show all my Weak Auras, Addons and more fun stuff :)
I just got my prot off-spec set up, and was talking to my GM/main raid tank. He was saying to take reckoning instead of devo aura, and to stack str instead of stam in my gems. His reasoning is that strength = threat, and higher threat means DPS can go off more unrestricted, as well as strength increasing block value. I'd always been told (and have read on multiple sources) that stam stacking is the way to go (as you said here). My plan is to main Holy, but I wouldn't mind learning, and running as a tank once in a while either. But, as someone who is really competitive, I can't stand the idea of being the cause of failure for my team. Are there any merits to what I was told? or should I stick with the stam strat that I am familiar with?
Reckoning is great for threat, yes, but I don’t agree with stacking Strength!
I would stick to Stamina because usually tanks won’t have threat issues and ultimately you’re there to soak hits and because there’s now diminishing returns on avoidances, you can get hit more frequently so the only true survival you have besides being crit capped through Defense is through your Stamina if that makes sense?
@@itsego_tv that's what I thought. And you make complete sense. Thank you!
@@jcbattistoni any amount of hp above 1 is useless, if you're confident that you won't die then go for as much threat as possible but with ulduar you will probably die so go stamina until you're really geared then you might be able to go a mix of str/stam
If you holy make healbot tank instead.
I think dps = threat related more to classic vanilla than wrath
Is seal of Vengeance and Seal of Corruption the same thing?
Yes they are, one is Alliance and one is Horde
10% judgment damage is bad, go for 4 targets for hammer
I guess it depends if you want single target or AOE threat
@@itsego_tvudgment damage is shit for prot pally, so 10% doesn't make much of a difference. Just stick to your taunt glyph so you're sure it doesn't miss. Or glyph of salvation later on when you'll solo tank Light of Dawn or Bane
Do you use any addon for taunting?
What is this transmog in the thumbnail ? Thank you
Vindication is bad in my experience rather dump thise into crit for some 10k shields
I’ll take note of that
Fool the best tank is a warrior.
Warriors are gods yeah, I like all Tanks tbh
I aways find it weird watching these videos of self proclaimed pro's yet don't see a single macro on their screen. Just a screen spammed with millions of buttons yet not macros.
tyvvvvvvm
Meta gem needs to be 5% block value not that armor one also reckoning is much better than devo, especially doing 5 mans u should go retri aura
I’ve switched to reckoning yeah haha, I like the single target threat
Doesn't divine shield drop your agro? Why would you want it for a tallent?
the rotation portion of this is just straight misinformation
What’s the rotation you use?? I love to hear feedback :)
Please, elaborate. I want to know as well.