Nice video Tommy. Should be noted switching between ev and hybrid mode (bottom button) by default it's in the hybrid mode but favors ev meaning it will always use ev unless you hammer the throttle. And you don't have to manage that mode. The top button is if you want to charge the battery using the engine. Rav 4 Prime has a similar system but gets into the 40s mile range
Not expensive in this sector not sure why you are making a big thing about that plus this is Lexus, this will still be rolling along in 20 years time super reliable and overall cost of ownership very reasonable, to understand Lexus cars and really appreciate them one needs to own a Lexus for a significant period of time, we’ve had one in our family passed along to various different people for 20 years and still super reliable and everything works, how many cars are that reliable 🤷♂️
Save up 60% on Certified Pre-owned Lexus RX450h Hybrid, which I purchased. The value of my certificated pre-owned RX450h still holding strong on all levels.
dealer Service loaners is the way to go! Bought one years ago great savings low miles and they do the certified warranty. They get dealers from Lex and then when the purchase is made more deal.
At 75 grand, there’s a lot of very compelling and better choices. Silly to pay these prices new, especially with some dealers putting up ‘market adjustments’ on the cars. Pass.
Name the better choices...and 75k seems steep but we are living in the age of aggressive inflation so it's not like lexus isn't setting a fair price for the value of the product they put out...anything else tht competes with this at a lower price is because they are doing just tht trying to compete and steal sales.. but toyota nor lexus need to do tht... they kno the product they have and will remain consistent....just like any of the germans...thing is the germans won't last as long.
That is why I QUIT all the traditional car companies and went 100% Tesla. I pay exactly what I thought I am going to pay- also it took only 20 minutes at the Tesla store to purchase my 24 Model Y Performance (95% of the process was completed on the app). I paid 42,890 out the door for it, and had my FSD suite transferred to it! You cannot even get a RAV4 Prime for that much.
So the battery holds an equivalent of 1 gallon of gas for this car. If you used the full battery 5 days a week and gas was $4 a gallon, you would save a gross of $80 per month, minus the electricity cost to charge during that month, so a net savings of maybe $40 per month depending on your electricity rates. Regular hybrids make the most financial sense.
@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 I think a phev is more about not producing emissions during your regular driving. I don’t think it’s about which vehicle makes more $ sense. If you have electricity that has cleaner production than you do all your daily driving emission free - best would be bike but not always realistic
@@Makkyddd Look up what CO2 has done to the atmosphere over the last several decades. Many people are surprised to find out it's the opposite of what they've been led to believe.
@@Makkyddd Passenger cars are a tiny percent of air pollution. As far as CO2, look up what effect it has has on the atmosphere over the last several decades, it may surprise you. Second time sending, first comment saying the same thing got ghosted.
Think it just depends on your commute, this isn't much cheaper than the BMW and that has about 10 more miles of EV range. It's thirstier outside of that though. The Volvo PHEV is about the same as the Lexus and has a bit more range too, about the same price.
$76k? Plus 10% tax and license, no thank you. Compared to my 2019 Ford Fusion Energi PHEV, close but no cigar. I paid $30k out the door, I can go 38 miles real world electric only, and still have 600 miles on the hybrid/gas engine. The window sticker showed 84 mpge and 35 mpg on the Lexus. My Ford gets 103 mpge and 43 mpg in hybrid/gas mode. Ok. No AWD. Yes my Ford has a small trunk. But for a buyer to pay $84k out the door, seems like a tough sale. Even if I add the cost of my 2017 A3 eTron, PHEV and my Energi together, I’m not up to the mid 70’s yet. A new long range M3 Tesla is $54k. Look at that instead.
All PHEVs are financially nonsensical compared to standard hybrids. If you use the full battery 5 days a week, you'll net a savings between $30 and $50 per month. Even less if the standard hybrid equivalent gets better MPG than the plug-in.
How much are you paying for gasoline? How much for electric? Based on my location, it is a 2 year break even factor. Which I have exceeded. @@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444.
Five stars tommy. You are really doing well with everything I say it a lot but you have grown tremendously. Bud. How and why Brendan ever left your brotherhood we shall never understand 😂
Branden left because Roman blew $160,000 on a Porsche 911 for himself, but was too cheap to give him a raise after a year of making videos. Why do you think half the people working at TFL are basically kids lol? This was all over Reddit
No way not worth the money plus when I went in to negotiate the said $72k from $76k just by saying no it took less than 1 minute to save $5k true story I have the email . I still said no because I never buy sunroofs and they are being built with 100% sunroofs.
With all you get in that car its priced appropriate. Has he seen the price of a GM product? Cadillac? GM EV cars.. The Lexus won't spend time in the service dept lot waiting for repairs.
Lexus is pricy. BUT: you go trouble free, guaranteed. I own a RX450h 2016. zero trouble. I'm replacing it for the new RX450h+. I own a BMW, GT 520d (europe) same year. Sick of expensive trouble. Just got rid of it.. piece of crap. Got a Toyota highlander. Love it, 15 yr guarantee.
I know, it's not in the same class, but my 2017 Volt gets more than that most days. :) I just expect more from progress. I get back and forth to work with no gas and charge up overnight. Now if Lexus could give me say, 50 or 70 miles, lots of luxury, and decent performance, I'd consider that progress.
In Hybrid Mode (HY), it naturally charges like a regular hybrid but if you turn it to Charge (CHG) mode, it will charge “faster” but you will notice a slight degradation in acceleration while in CHG mode, and you can definitely hear the brake regen more.
It is not too much money it’s a Lexus luxury suv … what are you expecting? Y’all just are mad about prices these days and I get it but don’t just say things out of feels… it’s a luxury good the price makes sense. A
@@justinborysenko3885it is not similar it’s nice , but it’s not a Lexus I’ve driven both. Yes it’s up to the consumer what is worth what to them , but honestly it’s a luxury good just don’t buy it.
In 2016 the Lexus RX started its move towards Toyota product lines as today’s RX is just a rebranded plush Toyota Highlander, 1980s GM style. The Lexus NX is a rebranded RAV4.
No it’s more than enough, y’all really think things are magic 🪄. You have ridiculous and non scientific unrealistic expectations, calm down. I won’t respond.
PHEVs only make sense when the cost is under 40k and you drive 20 miles a day and can only own one car. If you actually drive far and want to save money a regular hybrid just makes more sense. If you are going to spend 60k or more just get an EV, skip the cvt and noisy motor and gain efficiency+power.
@@LafemmebearMusic I have owned every configuration, a PHEV is more problematic than a regular hybrid. It also is going to be heavier, and requires you to install a level 2 at your house. A standard hybrid is cheaper to buy, gets better fuel economy with the engine running, and they tend to have larger fuel tanks for long trips. A PHEV is the worst of both worlds for many people, their use case is someone who drives less than the EV range most days, and occasionally uses it for longer trips. When my daily commute was 30 miles a PHEV was an awesome choice, driving it 150 miles a day I found that I was using 2 separate drivetrains to achieve worse fuel economy than our hybrid did, and the hybrid cost way less. All that said everything you like about the EV side of a PHEV a regular EV does better, and all the things you like about the ICE side of a PHEV a hybrid does better, a PHEV has a very narrow use case where it makes sense.
Sure, though most people these days don’t drive too much daily especially since Covid. PHEVs can still make good sense just depends on the individual and their driving needs.
The point is most people do drive less than 40 miles before returning home , when in 2 hours your recharged . I only use fuel on long trips which are infrequent. A full EV requires me to stop for a significant chunk of time on a long trip. PHEV is a great option if you mostly do short trips from home. The Car is brilliant to drive etc BTW.
@@adrianlovett3483 I have owned PHEVs, everything I like about them I like more about a regular EV. If 70k is a price you are willing to pay you could get an awesome EV for that money, in that price range you get something that does 0-60 in less than 5 seconds and charges to 80% in less than 25 minutes. When you can recover 150-200 miles of range in the time it takes for a bathroom break pumping gas is only marginally more convent/faster.
Great video. I have an idea, why dont we just add the few gallons to the tank, remove the second "drivetrain", saving everyone a shit ton of money and call it a day. Hey Toyota, and all other auto makers!!!! Tell the federal gov't they cannot force manufacturers to produce products, let the free market decide.
Sad part is the government kinda can force them. unless all of the car manufacturers join together to stand against the stupid climate agenda the government won’t stop
Nice video Tommy. Should be noted switching between ev and hybrid mode (bottom button) by default it's in the hybrid mode but favors ev meaning it will always use ev unless you hammer the throttle. And you don't have to manage that mode.
The top button is if you want to charge the battery using the engine.
Rav 4 Prime has a similar system but gets into the 40s mile range
I thought 450+ used 2.5 NA engines, not 2.4 Turbo. Correct me if I am wrong
You're absolutely right
Oop! My fault, you’re exactly right
Not expensive in this sector not sure why you are making a big thing about that plus this is Lexus, this will still be rolling along in 20 years time super reliable and overall cost of ownership very reasonable, to understand Lexus cars and really appreciate them one needs to own a Lexus for a significant period of time, we’ve had one in our family passed along to various different people for 20 years and still super reliable and everything works, how many cars are that reliable 🤷♂️
Love the looks. Got to sit in one when they touring the US, and it was very nice. But $$$.
Save up 60% on Certified Pre-owned Lexus RX450h Hybrid, which I purchased.
The value of my certificated pre-owned RX450h still holding strong on all levels.
best warranty
CPO Lexus is the move. Don’t buy new. But DEFINITELY buy one if you can. This will be my wife’s next car.
dealer Service loaners is the way to go! Bought one years ago great savings low miles and they do the certified warranty. They get dealers from Lex and then when the purchase is made more deal.
If they're not the same price or more than new...
Can’t agree more, got a 2024 NX450h+ F Sport with 7k miles - 10k saving compare to MSRP (thanks whoever can’t pay over 6 months of leasing)
I have a 2024 Lexus RX 450 hybrid plus. I live in Vermont and get 52 miles on battery only
Pretty much the same thing as the RAV4 Prime, I suppose? Just Luxury and better quality.
At 75 grand, there’s a lot of very compelling and better choices. Silly to pay these prices new, especially with some dealers putting up ‘market adjustments’ on the cars. Pass.
Especially when the Model Y starts at 43k and is eligible for the tax credit.
Name the better choices...and 75k seems steep but we are living in the age of aggressive inflation so it's not like lexus isn't setting a fair price for the value of the product they put out...anything else tht competes with this at a lower price is because they are doing just tht trying to compete and steal sales.. but toyota nor lexus need to do tht... they kno the product they have and will remain consistent....just like any of the germans...thing is the germans won't last as long.
That is why I QUIT all the traditional car companies and went 100% Tesla. I pay exactly what I thought I am going to pay- also it took only 20 minutes at the Tesla store to purchase my 24 Model Y Performance (95% of the process was completed on the app). I paid 42,890 out the door for it, and had my FSD suite transferred to it! You cannot even get a RAV4 Prime for that much.
Congrats on the pregnancy Tommy boy, we knew you could do it 🧑🍼 just saw the news on Reddit
TFL has a subreddit? Why am I just now learning of this?
So the battery holds an equivalent of 1 gallon of gas for this car. If you used the full battery 5 days a week and gas was $4 a gallon, you would save a gross of $80 per month, minus the electricity cost to charge during that month, so a net savings of maybe $40 per month depending on your electricity rates. Regular hybrids make the most financial sense.
Good point.
omg you gave the right ans
@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 I think a phev is more about not producing emissions during your regular driving. I don’t think it’s about which vehicle makes more $ sense. If you have electricity that has cleaner production than you do all your daily driving emission free - best would be bike but not always realistic
@@Makkyddd Look up what CO2 has done to the atmosphere over the last several decades. Many people are surprised to find out it's the opposite of what they've been led to believe.
@@Makkyddd Passenger cars are a tiny percent of air pollution. As far as CO2, look up what effect it has has on the atmosphere over the last several decades, it may surprise you. Second time sending, first comment saying the same thing got ghosted.
Think it just depends on your commute, this isn't much cheaper than the BMW and that has about 10 more miles of EV range. It's thirstier outside of that though. The Volvo PHEV is about the same as the Lexus and has a bit more range too, about the same price.
The hybrid system of Lexus is better
@@cia9419 Yes, which is why I said that the Lexus is less thirsty outside of the electric range.
$76k? Plus 10% tax and license, no thank you. Compared to my 2019 Ford Fusion Energi PHEV, close but no cigar. I paid $30k out the door, I can go 38 miles real world electric only, and still have 600 miles on the hybrid/gas engine.
The window sticker showed 84 mpge and 35 mpg on the Lexus. My Ford gets 103 mpge and 43 mpg in hybrid/gas mode.
Ok. No AWD. Yes my Ford has a small trunk. But for a buyer to pay $84k out the door, seems like a tough sale. Even if I add the cost of my 2017 A3 eTron, PHEV and my Energi together, I’m not up to the mid 70’s yet. A new long range M3 Tesla is $54k. Look at that instead.
All PHEVs are financially nonsensical compared to standard hybrids. If you use the full battery 5 days a week, you'll net a savings between $30 and $50 per month. Even less if the standard hybrid equivalent gets better MPG than the plug-in.
How much are you paying for gasoline? How much for electric? Based on my location, it is a 2 year break even factor. Which I have exceeded. @@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444.
Is it worth the price though? I mean, I know it's a Lexus but... is it so much better than the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV?
You should test drive them. It is hard to describe just how smooth and quiet the RX450 is. If that is not important to you, then it is of no value.
Very informative video guys but too rich for my budget.
2:16 look at that panel gap next to the heads up display.
So what’s with it claiming 84mpg? I’m confused.
I've never seen snow at 49 degrees
I think the car thermometer was still reading from being in the garage.
Sadly, Americans use the very flawed Fahrenheit system, instead of the proper Celsius system.
I agree with metric vs imperial but could do without Celsius 😂
@@Digikidthevoiceofreasonabsolutely incorrect, while metric is superior, Celsius makes absolutely no sense. 🙂
@@Icayn Celsius is superior and makes perfect sense.
Five stars tommy. You are really doing well with everything I say it a lot but you have grown tremendously. Bud. How and why Brendan ever left your brotherhood we shall never understand 😂
Branden left because Roman blew $160,000 on a Porsche 911 for himself, but was too cheap to give him a raise after a year of making videos. Why do you think half the people working at TFL are basically kids lol? This was all over Reddit
No way not worth the money plus when I went in to negotiate the said $72k from $76k just by saying no it took less than 1 minute to save $5k true story I have the email . I still said no because I never buy sunroofs and they are being built with 100% sunroofs.
Why don’t you buy sun roofs? Did you experience a series issue in the past?
With all you get in that car its priced appropriate. Has he seen the price of a GM product? Cadillac? GM EV cars.. The Lexus won't spend time in the service dept lot waiting for repairs.
Lexus is pricy. BUT: you go trouble free, guaranteed. I own a RX450h 2016. zero trouble. I'm replacing it for the new RX450h+. I own a BMW, GT 520d (europe) same year. Sick of expensive trouble. Just got rid of it.. piece of crap. Got a Toyota highlander. Love it, 15 yr guarantee.
Wow, a whole 37 miles eh?
I know, it's not in the same class, but my 2017 Volt gets more than that most days. :) I just expect more from progress. I get back and forth to work with no gas and charge up overnight. Now if Lexus could give me say, 50 or 70 miles, lots of luxury, and decent performance, I'd consider that progress.
@@hyperuTechI get 47 out my 22 rav4 prime and get 41+ combined
Can you charge the battery from the engine while driving?
In Hybrid Mode (HY), it naturally charges like a regular hybrid but if you turn it to Charge (CHG) mode, it will charge “faster” but you will notice a slight degradation in acceleration while in CHG mode, and you can definitely hear the brake regen more.
Yes you can there is special button inside if you need to charge battery from running gasoline engine j
My out lender can do 40-50 and is more capable off-road and much cheaper
Yeah that’s going to be a no from me dog.
Your test is for only 37 mile range but you result is 5 miles error. Lol
What are you talking about that 14.5 gallons will do over 400 miles
Neat but way to much money
RAV 4 prime is similar for less
It is not too much money it’s a Lexus luxury suv … what are you expecting? Y’all just are mad about prices these days and I get it but don’t just say things out of feels… it’s a luxury good the price makes sense. A
@@justinborysenko3885it is not similar it’s nice , but it’s not a Lexus I’ve driven both. Yes it’s up to the consumer what is worth what to them , but honestly it’s a luxury good just don’t buy it.
try a GM EV or hybrid sticker shocker is crazy.
Too* much
Toyota makes crap charging poor EVs. They should wait until EVs just pass then by next year. M3 performance fast, fun and goes far on a charge.
Rav4 Prime?
In 2016 the Lexus RX started its move towards Toyota product lines as today’s RX is just a rebranded plush Toyota Highlander, 1980s GM style.
The Lexus NX is a rebranded RAV4.
The plug in hybrid system might be very similar. The Highlander is more like the Lexus TX... At least the Grand Highlander anyway
@@icare7151 Thank you for pointing this out. My knowledge of the Lexus lineup is clearly deficient!
so 500 wh/mi?! what crazy inefficiency....imagine if you got like 60-70 miles then we would be talking....
No it’s more than enough, y’all really think things are magic 🪄. You have ridiculous and non scientific unrealistic expectations, calm down. I won’t respond.
This is best in class by far; worth EVERY penny... "competition" has NOT a chance.
Worth every penny at 75 grand? Ehh...
No it is not!
Lexus version of RAV4 Prime that is never in stock in msrp.
There is about 2,000 R4P on Autotrader and some are below MSRP.
About 2 miles per KW. It's as effecient as an F150 lightning. Geez is toyota horrible at EVs and overpriced.
Rav4 Prime is much better and cheaper.
It’s not nearly as quiet, but it does have more cargo room.
disappointing......... 35 miles is not enough
Heavy and expensive... I dont think its a good option.
you want more than 14 gallons? at 30 mpg? you need more than 400 miles on gas? ..... ok.
Oups there no turbo. Mistake
Bargain used
PHEVs only make sense when the cost is under 40k and you drive 20 miles a day and can only own one car. If you actually drive far and want to save money a regular hybrid just makes more sense. If you are going to spend 60k or more just get an EV, skip the cvt and noisy motor and gain efficiency+power.
In your opinion. And based on what math and scientific data or just based on your anecdotal feelings?
@@LafemmebearMusic I have owned every configuration, a PHEV is more problematic than a regular hybrid. It also is going to be heavier, and requires you to install a level 2 at your house. A standard hybrid is cheaper to buy, gets better fuel economy with the engine running, and they tend to have larger fuel tanks for long trips. A PHEV is the worst of both worlds for many people, their use case is someone who drives less than the EV range most days, and occasionally uses it for longer trips. When my daily commute was 30 miles a PHEV was an awesome choice, driving it 150 miles a day I found that I was using 2 separate drivetrains to achieve worse fuel economy than our hybrid did, and the hybrid cost way less. All that said everything you like about the EV side of a PHEV a regular EV does better, and all the things you like about the ICE side of a PHEV a hybrid does better, a PHEV has a very narrow use case where it makes sense.
Sure, though most people these days don’t drive too much daily especially since Covid. PHEVs can still make good sense just depends on the individual and their driving needs.
The point is most people do drive less than 40 miles before returning home , when in 2 hours your recharged . I only use fuel on long trips which are infrequent. A full EV requires me to stop for a significant chunk of time on a long trip. PHEV is a great option if you mostly do short trips from home.
The Car is brilliant to drive etc BTW.
@@adrianlovett3483 I have owned PHEVs, everything I like about them I like more about a regular EV. If 70k is a price you are willing to pay you could get an awesome EV for that money, in that price range you get something that does 0-60 in less than 5 seconds and charges to 80% in less than 25 minutes. When you can recover 150-200 miles of range in the time it takes for a bathroom break pumping gas is only marginally more convent/faster.
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Super expensive, no thx
Be less poor if you think 70K is super expensive.
@@electrikoptik same car rav4 prime only 44k, 78k is way overpriced
Now that the market of selling refrigerators to Eskimos is saturated I find that the new suckers are found in the EV market.
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This video should only take 2mins for the viewers to get the conclusion.
Tops out at 84 mph!?!? Toyota you blew it! 😂
PHEV don't make sense. Go EV, or get a high MPG ICE vehicle.
Complete opposite. PHEV is mostly EV for daily but hybrid on long trips.
I feel like PHEV makes the MOST sense
You’re totally wrong there bud.
They make amazing sense. The best of both worlds.
I think people are waking up to what doesn’t make sense. Check. Hint, nEVer…..
Great video. I have an idea, why dont we just add the few gallons to the tank, remove the second "drivetrain", saving everyone a shit ton of money and call it a day. Hey Toyota, and all other auto makers!!!! Tell the federal gov't they cannot force manufacturers to produce products, let the free market decide.
A nice idea. But the emissions are killing real people and the oil buying feeds dictators.
Sad part is the government kinda can force them. unless all of the car manufacturers join together to stand against the stupid climate agenda the government won’t stop
@@crt5866 But people die from the emissions. Haven't you experienced smog?
Boy be quiet 😂😂😂😂 hybrids by Toyota… aren’t reliable? Is that your weird argument 😅. Just over screaming your feels … go off sis
@@Harrythehunthese guys don’t care about, they want gasoline until they can’t breathe… not their problem