Truly excellent guide. Not only is it well laid out and easy to follow, it’s also incredibly detailed. It’s clear you put a lot of effort into these guides. The whole frost community thanks you.
I swear this is one of the best guide ever made! Giving out info straight to point, and what to use, what’s best and all the tips and trick! Loving it! Thank you
Thank you so much for this guide. Getting into a game like this is pretty intimidating and you made it clear enough that even I could understand how to get into it.
The quality of this video is insane. Like I am speechless, if this is your like secondary job and you work in an office as your main job, I am amazed. Good job!
This is very kind thank you so much! It's currently not full time but I would love this to become a full time thing! Do guides for the other specs or even other classes 🥰
great guide! my weird take away was ice block clearing oros single target nuke! when i play my alt healer that spell really claps. Thanks wet muppet xD
I haven't even finished watching this video and I love it so much. You put so much time into it and it's packed with enough info to help me jump back into mage. I appreciate you.
@okaymage I think in highend mythic plus, and this is only for spires, its worth it to run freezing rain until after 2nd boss. then hearth out, switch to splitting ice OR go fire since the rest of the dungeon is the st heavy. we have a DH tank so we dont pull massively but i find much more damage through freezing rain until that point. just my opinion since im running 26s now! great guide
Awesome guide! Every time I cast frostbolt I find myself left behind in dmg. I checked AOE setup with Blizz+ice lance spam and it seems to work for me! I miss some dmg when it comes to only one boss and no trash.
I played mage since vanilla but got bored a little so I switched to resto Druid for SL. After watching your videos I restarted with the mage. I was used to play fire since BC but now it’s more fun since years. Thanks! You talked a bit about AddOns and WAs. Are there more AddOns you use? I currently use ElvUi but wonder if the standard UI would work for me. Do you use an AddOn for your group frames? Do you just use keys or mouse buttons? It’s a little hard to get that muscle memory and later try to change that so I’d like to know how pros bind keys to maybe get an idea on how to do it better. Thanks in advance!
I use default ui! I changed the settings of the party frames and I use an addon called OmniCD to track everyone’s cooldowns. The name plates are an addon called plater. I will post a screenshot of my party frames settings in the discord if you wish to have them the same 🥰
@@Okaymage Awesome thank you so much! I didn't know you could do that with the default UI! I already use plater, I'll join your discord now if you could post it that would be great😊❤️
Question on filler between procs in AOE: at 4:33 you're filling with frostbolt on 3 targets vs later you say to throw un-procced ice lances - is there a target limit here? Filling with AE after 5 mobs but what about 2-3 mobs?
You only use unbuffed ice lances if you are forced to move and have nothing else to use in that global OR if you are running the legendary glacial fragments then you use unbuffed ice lances at 3+ targets in your blizzard. Frostbolt is your filler spell!
Hey i need ur help pls. lets say that this new week we have quaking, inspired Tyranical. I'm mostly pugging but i cannot decide if i should go with venthir or night fae... Any sugestions pls?
Nightfae is great for defensive reasons, as it gives you a cheat death which is highly valuable. Venthyr will give you a boost to single target, which can be super good on tyrannical weeks. Really you need to judge it for yourself in the group comp and key and see what you will need! Venthyr is always a good pick damage wise because you get aoe and st. You lose a cheat death however but in lower keys this might not be so important
Absolutely loved the guide! I'm trying to get the freezing winds orb tracker weakaura to work, but it doesn't seem to. The load conditions seem correct, but when I throw out frozen orb I get nothing. I checked the comments on the wago page, and it seems like someone else was having a similar issue but I didn't see a solution yet. EDIT: Turns out my weakauras was out of date. Don't be like me, update your addons!
@@Okaymage Legendary equipped, and orb hitting enemies. I will try and mess around with the settings to see what I can come up with. I appreciate the reply. Stay frosty! EDIT: MAKE SURE your addons are up to date.
Great useful information for a 50 year old coming back and trying to figure out what class to play. looks like this is a good option. I was a BM hunter for years and got bored, and don't want a pet. Making decisions click what is blinky sounds easy for me!! What platter load out are you using? do you have a copy of your profile we can download?
Thank you so much! I’m glad you found it helpful 🥰 All weakauras and UI related info is found in my discord. I will link my plater profile here too- wago.io/CEB4UuF0e
Love the guide!! One question I have that I didn't see covered is regarding the Arcane Explosion spam! I noticed in some biggg pulls during the video, you would spam Arcane Explosion in your AOE rotation, but never saw it covered in the guide. Is this something we should be doing for big pulls??
There is a small segment about pressing Arcane Explosion in the mage cooldowns segment at 25:43 you basically only want to press it as a filler at 6+ targets if there are no priority target mobs in the pull (as you sacrifice prio damage for a little bit of pad damage to everything) The reason I was pressing it in those clips was because that footage was taken from the MDI and after hours of practice it worked out best for me to do that. It was a niche situation that I would never run into live!
Mostly because I’m using AE in packs with lots of irrelevant mobs with the same HP. You can do this at 6+ targets in those kinds of pulls. If there are priority target mobs in these pulls, I couldn’t recommend doing this
Question from a new snowflake mage. With icy vines up and with the spliting ice talent choosen and ofc icy polution in the soulbind. Will a ice lance crit reduce icy veins cd by 1 or 2 tiggers/cast?
@okeymage question you meantion that 33% crit is a great breakpoint. How come that my sim whats me to keep going after i reach 33% i have currently droped 5% haste leaving me at crit: 36% haste: 15% mastery 15% vers 12%
Your sim will always take into account any breakpoints, soft caps, caps, etc. Individual stat percentages aren’t something you individually manage or even worry about. Your sim will always put you at the level of crit which an upgrade out of the gear you have available
Hey guys/girls i have a stupid question. Which weapon is best to use for M+ and raids (Shadowlands btw) staff or sword/off hand? Cuz i kinda suck when it comes to caster classes and i don't wanna get ruined with rage and flaming from the community....
I would appreciate some help durning simming. When i import it there from the addon, it tells me, that i need 2 or more combinations of gear selected and i dont know what that means
You can play what you like as it’s all marginal, however you can find the race list here- toegrinder.github.io/mage-compendium/sims?spec=frost&graphs=races_horde
You mean the one showing my casts? It’s a weakaura to help people watching! You can find it here although it’s not a rotation helper it just shows you what you have casted- wago.io/cWI3bhMz2/8
as a new night fae frost mage, I find myself overwhelmed in aoe with all my cds up. What i do is pop blizzard/orb/icy veins and then i usually use the night fae ability which makes me able to cast my blizzard again and sometimes even my orb (if a big pack) but then i feel like i've wasted SO MANY finger of frost proc because i was busy casting for what feels like forever. Is this correct ?
as a general rule of thumb, in large aoe scenarios consider the NF ability a burst cooldown, not as much a cd reducer and haste buff. it the pack is 6 or more use the standard opener (blizz icyveins frozen orb) use 1 FOF proc then use the NF ability n range of the entire pack. If you don't hit every mob youre losing a lot of dps . I've hit some super silly burst numbers on the slime pack before the 1st boss of PF
The icy veins uptime tracker only shows in combat (you can change this to always show) and the freezing winds one will only show if you have the freezing winds legendary equipped so double check that! Other than this there might be clever people in the discord that can help you 🥰
@@Okaymage ive tried everything I know about weakauras to get them showing, nothing worked so far... I've made my own weakauras in the past I'm clueless right now haha. thanks for replying.
nice video :)) happy to find this i am leveling atm a frost mage twink atm lv 51 and atm i am venthyr :) but i want to try a "Crit" build with Kyrian, Kleia what do u think? Has it potential in pve content like raiding / m+? :) thx for this video :)) And btw For the alliance! :) Greetings
Not heard of this kyrian build before. No sure what you mean by a crit build exactly. Come visit us in the discord so we can discuss it more and see if it’s any good.
My level 60 mage with 205 item level is averaging 1.3-1.5k DPS, whereas your damage meters are showing you to be 20,000-40,000 DPS. Now I know there is a jump in DPS corresponding to item level and talent appropriation, however, I know of no talent and item combination that can singlehandedly take a level 60 from 1.5k DPS to 20,000 DPS. Are you guys using some kind of third party cheating system? If not you must have some secret to getting your dps so high and I would love to know what it is!
Frost nova can be used when frozen orb is out in the mobs during icy veins windows to proc icy propulsion. I mention this a couple of times in the video, timestamps- 01:33 13:25 Cone of cold crits also proc icy propulsion! As well as having utility uses by slowing the mobs. Hope this helps!
My problem is my haste is like 8% with frost mage and I have so much mastery. It feels like shit to play, surely my damage compared to literally any other frost mage is worse
: i heard you need to be night fae to be good at frost, this is why im not gettting invited to echo cuz i dont have 33.34% crit and im venthyr and i blame you for spreading false information
hello i am averagewarlock, I heard that mage is meta now because some guy didn't invite me to keys should I reroll to mage just so i can be meta and what covenant should i go i looked on warcraft logs and they were all night fae so whats this bullshit about being venthyr i did the minimal amount of research and i already know more than you
before this goes south, which it probs will do anyway, I learned frost mage with your guid a few months ago as i started playing 3 or so weeks before SL Season 1 ended and I started maining frost mage in S2 and I'm sitting at the lower end of 2.7k io at the moment and i don't want to hate on you or anything, but i'm not really agreeing with you too much. I DO NOT want to hate or bash you, i'm just disagreeing a bit and want to offer some, hopefully, constructive criticism. The talent selection is, in my opinion, wrong. Freezing rain, if paired with the conduit, outdpses splitting in all aoe dungeons when they get pulled properly normally. The only dungeons where Splitting is a objectively better choice are ToP and mists, with SoA being very route dependant. The stat prio is also very MEH, sims, as they stand at the moment, do NOT recast icy veins (if it's CD is cleared while it's active) for another rune of power. Icy prop's CDR procs off of crits you get from the frozen orb, a few more % on crit will almost always outperform the other stats. This becomes more and more true the bigger you pull as the orb now is uncapped AoE. Simming frost mage is very very tricky because of that. Hard casting the rune is a big dps loss, depending on the pulls. Using IV for 100%, or at least close to, rune uptime in big pulls is a huge dps increase and something new players should try to achieve, this, ironically, is a lot easier in higher keys because the CDs just get shredded away. Legendary selection is where we sort of agree. Freezing winds almost always outperforms Glacial Fragments overall. The only situation where I would pick GF over FW is if your group has a big boomie and another insane ST class. Frost mage as it stands right now, has so much, uncapped and sustained AoE without any leggo already. Going GF, in my opinion, just double dips on the weakness of Frost and you lose out on a huge chunk of ST damage. Anima power selection is an area where we kinda completely agree. There are some situation where Signed of bolstering is huge, last week for example, the lil explosive orbs proc it and you're running with a usually 6 to 12% raw damage increase pretty much all the time. Champions brand for frost mages doesn't make TOO much sense with optimized gear. For example, the Necromatic Tome from KT has about 60% uptime and it pushes your crit by quite a bit. Stacking more crit is underwhelming comapred to the other options the executioner and incinerator offer. Necrotic dagger is a really really good option for ST (something frost mages still struggle with and where more crit hardly does anything for us) and the raging battle axe can be proced by your blizzard as well as the orb, so it's an overall pretty nutty AoE and ST damage increase. A tl;dr here would be, champion's brand is good, if you're not at the 31.3 or so % crit threshold to get 100% crits on the ice lances. Then again, more crit on the orb means less CD on icy veins which means higher uptime.. :D Rotation wise, the only gripe i have is the NF and Venth covenant abilities.. Mirrors in an AoE pull is rather meh UNLESS you use it to finish of a big target, like you mentioned, the shards in Halls, otherwise you're not really getting much use out of it because you already get so many Finger procs in AoE pulls The Shifting power can be used as an insane AoE burst, here's how I do the rotation in big pulls: Icy Veins - Frozen Orb - Blizzard - Shifting power to get another blizzard - at this point Frozen orb is off CD so I cast that again - a few Ice lances or Arcane Explosions if the pull is big enough Doing it this way, gives you three insta Blizzard casts instead of two, precasting blizzard if you're playing with freezing rain can mess this up a little, but it's not TOO bad if you use Shifting power to get the third blizzard cast off while the orb is out. This also helps with Frozen Orb uptime and thus also with overall damage output a lot. Lastly something I find rather important that didn't get talked about is the Rune of Power uptime, if you can reset Icy Veins for a 2nd/3rd/4th time in the same pull, use it for more runes of power instead of hard casting the ability itself, you're spending casting something that could be insta cast. A tl;dr here would be, instant cast as much and as often as you can or avoid hard casting anything that has an option to be cast instantly. I hope you aren't taking this the wrong way, i do enjoy your stuff a lot and it helped me out quite a bit in the beginning, my comment is more mild optimization than anything really :D have a good day c:
Hey! Thanks for the feedback! Luckily none of this is my opinion! All of this is factual sim based information, all taken from the actual frost mage guides! If you personally feelycraft some things that’s absolutely fine, you can play the game how you want ofc! But none of this information is feelycraft or my opinion 🥰 Be careful pushing opinions as facts, that’s how misconceptions and wrong information gets spread. The cleaver math mages in the class discord work out what is best and write the guides. That is where this information is sourced! It’s the most reliable source. I appreciate you sharing your experiences and hope you are enjoying the game since you are new! 🥰
This isn’t flame either btw so hopefully it doesn’t come across that way. But I think the majority of the playerbase don’t realise these things are mathematically worked out with sims and things. I think everyone assumes it’s feelycraft when it’s not. You can literally read the information from this video all in the guides and sims
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This lady makes the best guides in the history of guides ever guided
Truly excellent guide. Not only is it well laid out and easy to follow, it’s also incredibly detailed. It’s clear you put a lot of effort into these guides. The whole frost community thanks you.
You are the Lake Tahoe of WOW UA-camrs. Every video is so clear it’s amazing.
Love this analogy 💙💚
This is such a great guide and resource, and your delivery is so clear and easy to understand, thank you!
I swear this is one of the best guide ever made! Giving out info straight to point, and what to use, what’s best and all the tips and trick! Loving it! Thank you
Thank you so much ❤️
@@Okaymage any tips for someone who's mains tank specifically
Basicly what I really need to learn specifically for frost mage over a tank spec
I LOVE your guides!!! I havent played wow properly for some time, but it made me hyped to play it again. Thank you!
One of the best feelings in wow is making an alt and finding out that their are high quality guides like this one for it, tysm for this
Maybe I Can finally become a good mage
this is amazing :)
Perfect timing. Answers so many questions and more.
Thank you so much for this guide. Getting into a game like this is pretty intimidating and you made it clear enough that even I could understand how to get into it.
This was SO needed! Amazing thank you
You really made me creating a frost mage and I have fun as hell!
Glad to hear it 🥰
I’ve been looking forward to this! Excellent work as always
This is probably the best guide I’ve ever seen. Thank you!
The quality of this video is insane. Like I am speechless, if this is your like secondary job and you work in an office as your main job, I am amazed. Good job!
This is very kind thank you so much! It's currently not full time but I would love this to become a full time thing! Do guides for the other specs or even other classes 🥰
Found my new video to fall asleep to. Your voice in this is so soothing! Also, the guide is great!
great guide! my weird take away was ice block clearing oros single target nuke! when i play my alt healer that spell really claps. Thanks wet muppet xD
That spell does hurt a lot I always ice block it if I can! Haha I have a stream chat redeem to change my details name! Some of them are… interesting 😂
Thank you so much for this!!
Finally someone explained the shatter combo/proc munching use cases in a way that's understandable and doesn't contradict itself. Subscriby
I just started playing my frost mage again and this is by far the best guide I’ve seen wish UA-cam gave the ability for 2 thumbs up lol
Your guides are hands down the best I've ever watched. The effort really comes though well played lady!
this is a crazy good guide and since you connected with asuna beforehand its save to say all info is valid !
Also sourced from the awesome contributors in the alter time mage discord 🥰🥰
Do a fire mage guide like this!! Great guide very appreciated
Branching out is something very much on the cards 🥰 Glad you enjoyed!
Yes fire mage guide!!
I haven't even finished watching this video and I love it so much. You put so much time into it and it's packed with enough info to help me jump back into mage. I appreciate you.
Thank you so much for the kind feedback! I’m glad you found it helpful 🥰
Amazing guide, been trying to get back into frost since not much to do on the main and this guide helped a lot (:
This is really epic guide, I will certainly folow you on twitch as well as you have great attitude and understanding of the mage ;D
Quality content as usual 👍🏼
N the fucking music choices are BANGERS HOLY OMAHGAWD
BEST guide on youtube. Thank you for this!
@okaymage I think in highend mythic plus, and this is only for spires, its worth it to run freezing rain until after 2nd boss. then hearth out, switch to splitting ice OR go fire since the rest of the dungeon is the st heavy. we have a DH tank so we dont pull massively but i find much more damage through freezing rain until that point. just my opinion since im running 26s now! great guide
you're my fav go to mage for guides!
great job zola
I'm a Frost DK but I'll be using this guide anyway because it's so good.
This is a GREAT guide! so well explained !!!!
Why is this intro one of the best intros yet? Wtf
havent heared your voice for months . now back in 9.2 and i'm in seventh heaven
Really good guide was curious what are your Addons
Main Addons I use in M+: Plater Nameplates, BigWigs, LittleWigs, Details, Weakauras, Angry Keystones, Mythic Dungeon Tools, Move Anything
Awesome guide! Every time I cast frostbolt I find myself left behind in dmg. I checked AOE setup with Blizz+ice lance spam and it seems to work for me! I miss some dmg when it comes to only one boss and no trash.
Great guide!
Best Mage video!!
I don’t want to assume anything, but are you from the UK? New to the channel, so yeah.
I am from the uk! Essex specifically 🥰
I played mage since vanilla but got bored a little so I switched to resto Druid for SL. After watching your videos I restarted with the mage. I was used to play fire since BC but now it’s more fun since years. Thanks!
You talked a bit about AddOns and WAs. Are there more AddOns you use? I currently use ElvUi but wonder if the standard UI would work for me. Do you use an AddOn for your group frames? Do you just use keys or mouse buttons? It’s a little hard to get that muscle memory and later try to change that so I’d like to know how pros bind keys to maybe get an idea on how to do it better.
Thanks in advance!
I've just switched to frost mage and this is super helpful, thank you! 😊 What is your UI add on?
I use default ui! I changed the settings of the party frames and I use an addon called OmniCD to track everyone’s cooldowns. The name plates are an addon called plater. I will post a screenshot of my party frames settings in the discord if you wish to have them the same 🥰
@@Okaymage Awesome thank you so much! I didn't know you could do that with the default UI! I already use plater, I'll join your discord now if you could post it that would be great😊❤️
Question on filler between procs in AOE: at 4:33 you're filling with frostbolt on 3 targets vs later you say to throw un-procced ice lances - is there a target limit here? Filling with AE after 5 mobs but what about 2-3 mobs?
You only use unbuffed ice lances if you are forced to move and have nothing else to use in that global OR if you are running the legendary glacial fragments then you use unbuffed ice lances at 3+ targets in your blizzard.
Frostbolt is your filler spell!
Hey i need ur help pls. lets say that this new week we have quaking, inspired Tyranical. I'm mostly pugging but i cannot decide if i should go with venthir or night fae... Any sugestions pls?
Nightfae is great for defensive reasons, as it gives you a cheat death which is highly valuable. Venthyr will give you a boost to single target, which can be super good on tyrannical weeks. Really you need to judge it for yourself in the group comp and key and see what you will need! Venthyr is always a good pick damage wise because you get aoe and st. You lose a cheat death however but in lower keys this might not be so important
holly fuck i clicked to learn how to play mage and ended up in love with your voice
Absolutely loved the guide! I'm trying to get the freezing winds orb tracker weakaura to work, but it doesn't seem to. The load conditions seem correct, but when I throw out frozen orb I get nothing. I checked the comments on the wago page, and it seems like someone else was having a similar issue but I didn't see a solution yet.
EDIT: Turns out my weakauras was out of date. Don't be like me, update your addons!
This is odd indeed, I will try and look into it! This is assuming you have the freezing winds legendary equipped and things like that
@@Okaymage Legendary equipped, and orb hitting enemies. I will try and mess around with the settings to see what I can come up with. I appreciate the reply. Stay frosty!
EDIT: MAKE SURE your addons are up to date.
Great useful information for a 50 year old coming back and trying to figure out what class to play. looks like this is a good option. I was a BM hunter for years and got bored, and don't want a pet. Making decisions click what is blinky sounds easy for me!! What platter load out are you using? do you have a copy of your profile we can download?
Thank you so much! I’m glad you found it helpful 🥰 All weakauras and UI related info is found in my discord. I will link my plater profile here too- wago.io/CEB4UuF0e
@@Okaymage Thanks a ton got it. should help now I can start running some M+!!
Verry good guide:)
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Love the guide!! One question I have that I didn't see covered is regarding the Arcane Explosion spam! I noticed in some biggg pulls during the video, you would spam Arcane Explosion in your AOE rotation, but never saw it covered in the guide. Is this something we should be doing for big pulls??
There is a small segment about pressing Arcane Explosion in the mage cooldowns segment at 25:43 you basically only want to press it as a filler at 6+ targets if there are no priority target mobs in the pull (as you sacrifice prio damage for a little bit of pad damage to everything)
The reason I was pressing it in those clips was because that footage was taken from the MDI and after hours of practice it worked out best for me to do that. It was a niche situation that I would never run into live!
Sometimes i see you have fingers of frost procs, but dont spam them and you just use arcane explosion. Is it because of a certain number of mobs? :)
Mostly because I’m using AE in packs with lots of irrelevant mobs with the same HP. You can do this at 6+ targets in those kinds of pulls. If there are priority target mobs in these pulls, I couldn’t recommend doing this
@@Okaymage thank you!
Finally i got what ist do wrong . I like Your guide well Done. And ty so much
Question from a new snowflake mage. With icy vines up and with the spliting ice talent choosen and ofc icy polution in the soulbind. Will a ice lance crit reduce icy veins cd by 1 or 2 tiggers/cast?
This vid is god sent
@okeymage question you meantion that 33% crit is a great breakpoint.
How come that my sim whats me to keep going after i reach 33% i have currently droped 5% haste leaving me at crit: 36% haste: 15% mastery 15% vers 12%
Your sim will always take into account any breakpoints, soft caps, caps, etc. Individual stat percentages aren’t something you individually manage or even worry about.
Your sim will always put you at the level of crit which an upgrade out of the gear you have available
i try to rise my dps but it wont go higher than 7.5 with 248 i lvl and i dont know why can you help??
Hey guys/girls i have a stupid question. Which weapon is best to use for M+ and raids (Shadowlands btw) staff or sword/off hand? Cuz i kinda suck when it comes to caster classes and i don't wanna get ruined with rage and flaming from the community....
so what covenant would you reccomend if i only do up 2 +15 on mythic plus?
I would appreciate some help durning simming. When i import it there from the addon, it tells me, that i need 2 or more combinations of gear selected and i dont know what that means
You need to select gear in order to compare against each other to see what gear is best from what you selected 🥰
When running freezing winds Leggo, after using FO on a group do you spamming IL (without the procs )or wait for FoF procs from FW leggo??
Only use ice Lance when you have a proc (FoF) yes 🥰
@@Okaymage thank you for making it clear. Always looking forward to your next vid
Thnx really good video men! Am I ok to stay nightborne mage or do I need troll?
You can play what you like as it’s all marginal, however you can find the race list here- toegrinder.github.io/mage-compendium/sims?spec=frost&graphs=races_horde
You're the coolest gal
What is your addon for spells? I run hekili but yours looks so much more nice 😂
You mean the one showing my casts? It’s a weakaura to help people watching! You can find it here although it’s not a rotation helper it just shows you what you have casted- wago.io/cWI3bhMz2/8
as a new night fae frost mage, I find myself overwhelmed in aoe with all my cds up. What i do is pop blizzard/orb/icy veins and then i usually use the night fae ability which makes me able to cast my blizzard again and sometimes even my orb (if a big pack) but then i feel like i've wasted SO MANY finger of frost proc because i was busy casting for what feels like forever.
Is this correct ?
as a general rule of thumb, in large aoe scenarios consider the NF ability a burst cooldown, not as much a cd reducer and haste buff. it the pack is 6 or more use the standard opener (blizz icyveins frozen orb) use 1 FOF proc then use the NF ability n range of the entire pack. If you don't hit every mob youre losing a lot of dps . I've hit some super silly burst numbers on the slime pack before the 1st boss of PF
neither the icy veins uptime tracker nor freezing winds WA is working for me, Rune of Power is though
The icy veins uptime tracker only shows in combat (you can change this to always show) and the freezing winds one will only show if you have the freezing winds legendary equipped so double check that! Other than this there might be clever people in the discord that can help you 🥰
@@Okaymage ive tried everything I know about weakauras to get them showing, nothing worked so far... I've made my own weakauras in the past I'm clueless right now haha. thanks for replying.
what missive i must put in my legend for frost mage
Crit haste 🥰
Hello can you make a 9.2. Ptr raid video with your frost pls?
nice video :)) happy to find this i am leveling atm a frost mage twink atm lv 51 and atm i am venthyr :) but i want to try a "Crit" build with Kyrian, Kleia what do u think? Has it potential in pve content like raiding / m+? :) thx for this video :)) And btw For the alliance! :) Greetings
Not heard of this kyrian build before. No sure what you mean by a crit build exactly. Come visit us in the discord so we can discuss it more and see if it’s any good.
15:25 Cairo freeze? :) 🏝
I love your accent so much
My level 60 mage with 205 item level is averaging 1.3-1.5k DPS, whereas your damage meters are showing you to be 20,000-40,000 DPS. Now I know there is a jump in DPS corresponding to item level and talent appropriation, however, I know of no talent and item combination that can singlehandedly take a level 60 from 1.5k DPS to 20,000 DPS.
Are you guys using some kind of third party cheating system? If not you must have some secret to getting your dps so high and I would love to know what it is!
Nice video. Who's the sad individual that calls their char Geordieshore? :)
why do i see streamers using cone of cold and frost nova?
Frost nova can be used when frozen orb is out in the mobs during icy veins windows to proc icy propulsion. I mention this a couple of times in the video, timestamps- 01:33 13:25
Cone of cold crits also proc icy propulsion! As well as having utility uses by slowing the mobs. Hope this helps!
@@Okaymage thank you i did watch this in my lunch break so may have missed the points i was actually looking for x) i appreciate your reply
@@chloeaddams537 no problem hope I could help! 🥰
My problem is my haste is like 8% with frost mage and I have so much mastery. It feels like shit to play, surely my damage compared to literally any other frost mage is worse
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I don't think any mage will ever not take rune of power in PVE.The other talents in their current states dont compete!
You’d be surprised! A ton of people hate playing with rune of power and don’t take it. I try my hardest to tell people to learn to play with it haha
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hi me find macro rotation for frost mage speel cast script
: i heard you need to be night fae to be good at frost, this is why im not gettting invited to echo cuz i dont have 33.34% crit and im venthyr and i blame you for spreading false information
hello i am averagewarlock, I heard that mage is meta now because some guy didn't invite me to keys should I reroll to mage just so i can be meta and what covenant should i go i looked on warcraft logs and they were all night fae so whats this bullshit about being venthyr i did the minimal amount of research and i already know more than you
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before this goes south, which it probs will do anyway, I learned frost mage with your guid a few months ago as i started playing 3 or so weeks before SL Season 1 ended and I started maining frost mage in S2 and I'm sitting at the lower end of 2.7k io at the moment and i don't want to hate on you or anything, but i'm not really agreeing with you too much.
I DO NOT want to hate or bash you, i'm just disagreeing a bit and want to offer some, hopefully, constructive criticism.
The talent selection is, in my opinion, wrong. Freezing rain, if paired with the conduit, outdpses splitting in all aoe dungeons when they get pulled properly normally.
The only dungeons where Splitting is a objectively better choice are ToP and mists, with SoA being very route dependant.
The stat prio is also very MEH, sims, as they stand at the moment, do NOT recast icy veins (if it's CD is cleared while it's active) for another rune of power. Icy prop's CDR procs off of crits you get from the frozen orb, a few more % on crit will almost always outperform the other stats. This becomes more and more true the bigger you pull as the orb now is uncapped AoE.
Simming frost mage is very very tricky because of that. Hard casting the rune is a big dps loss, depending on the pulls.
Using IV for 100%, or at least close to, rune uptime in big pulls is a huge dps increase and something new players should try to achieve, this, ironically, is a lot easier in higher keys because the CDs just get shredded away.
Legendary selection is where we sort of agree. Freezing winds almost always outperforms Glacial Fragments overall. The only situation where I would pick GF over FW is if your group has a big boomie and another insane ST class.
Frost mage as it stands right now, has so much, uncapped and sustained AoE without any leggo already. Going GF, in my opinion, just double dips on the weakness of Frost and you lose out on a huge chunk of ST damage.
Anima power selection is an area where we kinda completely agree.
There are some situation where Signed of bolstering is huge, last week for example, the lil explosive orbs proc it and you're running with a usually 6 to 12% raw damage increase pretty much all the time.
Champions brand for frost mages doesn't make TOO much sense with optimized gear. For example, the Necromatic Tome from KT has about 60% uptime and it pushes your crit by quite a bit. Stacking more crit is underwhelming comapred to the other options the executioner and incinerator offer.
Necrotic dagger is a really really good option for ST (something frost mages still struggle with and where more crit hardly does anything for us) and the raging battle axe can be proced by your blizzard as well as the orb, so it's an overall pretty nutty AoE and ST damage increase.
A tl;dr here would be, champion's brand is good, if you're not at the 31.3 or so % crit threshold to get 100% crits on the ice lances. Then again, more crit on the orb means less CD on icy veins which means higher uptime.. :D
Rotation wise, the only gripe i have is the NF and Venth covenant abilities.. Mirrors in an AoE pull is rather meh UNLESS you use it to finish of a big target, like you mentioned, the shards in Halls, otherwise you're not really getting much use out of it because you already get so many Finger procs in AoE pulls
The Shifting power can be used as an insane AoE burst, here's how I do the rotation in big pulls:
Icy Veins - Frozen Orb - Blizzard - Shifting power to get another blizzard - at this point Frozen orb is off CD so I cast that again - a few Ice lances or Arcane Explosions if the pull is big enough
Doing it this way, gives you three insta Blizzard casts instead of two, precasting blizzard if you're playing with freezing rain can mess this up a little, but it's not TOO bad if you use Shifting power to get the third blizzard cast off while the orb is out.
This also helps with Frozen Orb uptime and thus also with overall damage output a lot.
Lastly something I find rather important that didn't get talked about is the Rune of Power uptime, if you can reset Icy Veins for a 2nd/3rd/4th time in the same pull, use it for more runes of power instead of hard casting the ability itself, you're spending casting something that could be insta cast.
A tl;dr here would be, instant cast as much and as often as you can or avoid hard casting anything that has an option to be cast instantly.
I hope you aren't taking this the wrong way, i do enjoy your stuff a lot and it helped me out quite a bit in the beginning, my comment is more mild optimization than anything really :D
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Hey! Thanks for the feedback! Luckily none of this is my opinion! All of this is factual sim based information, all taken from the actual frost mage guides!
If you personally feelycraft some things that’s absolutely fine, you can play the game how you want ofc! But none of this information is feelycraft or my opinion 🥰
Be careful pushing opinions as facts, that’s how misconceptions and wrong information gets spread. The cleaver math mages in the class discord work out what is best and write the guides. That is where this information is sourced! It’s the most reliable source.
I appreciate you sharing your experiences and hope you are enjoying the game since you are new! 🥰
This isn’t flame either btw so hopefully it doesn’t come across that way. But I think the majority of the playerbase don’t realise these things are mathematically worked out with sims and things. I think everyone assumes it’s feelycraft when it’s not. You can literally read the information from this video all in the guides and sims
bestie why do you have 2 mages
Last expansion I did actually 😂 This expansion I only have the one mage though
I think some footage here is from the MDI so it would have been the tournament realm mage!
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Dude look your HUD and think again