Y’all be throwing the word “scared” around way too loosely. He didn’t want yo go at it with Kendrick because he didn’t want to go at it with his brother with the gloves off? It just doesn’t feel right to him fight his bro over something that’s not deep, doesn’t mean he scared to thrown down with one of actual opps
Here is my issue with y’all. Him and Kendrick are friends. He didn’t want to go against his friend. Why don’t y’all understand that? He had no beef with no animosity. No hate. Y’all never felt that for someone?
Yeah... you 100% don't know that brother, but you can believe whatever you want tho. Everybody ain't gotta be cool. Friends would never get gassed up, put that record out and apologize in the first place. Hov would never make a diss track about Memphis Bleek or vice versa
@@cuegordon1178 I think he thought it was just going to be about pure skill and rap, and not all this other stuff that transpired. But to your point, Cole decided to bow out and that’s a knock on him
I don't think they were as close as friends as they once were, but I do think that there is respect there. The problem is people are trying to force this narrative of Cole not stepping in the ring "to prove he is the best" when the other two were on different timing. At no point were there conversations about rhyme schemes, flows, or lyricism when it came to Kendrick v. Drake. Niggas were out to prove that one was a pedophile and the other was beating his girl's ass. Niggas were making up kids and shit. Did anyone ever find Drake's daughter? Niggas spent a whole month trying to crack down on who "the mole" was. And "A MINOOOOOR" was probably the most quoted bar in the entire beef. Shit was all about character assassination, allegations, and 0 with who was lyrically better. These niggas are pushing 40 and were penning Shaderoom bars towards each other. People need to start being honest about that.
@@jamalwilliams005I feel you but man, he should've thought about that before hand. He's way too smart to understand that. He know damn well beef never is about being competitive on a skill level. It's a mud fight. History has proven that smh
If theres a battle between Cole and Drake and Cole with the shits, Drake is NOT outrapping Cole. Not even on Drakes best day. Cole walked him down on almost every song they had together. And DEFINITELY on their recent collabs. Cole won FPS and Evil Ways. And even though Cole backed out, I dont think that would happen for someone he has an actual issue with. He had no ill will for Dot. But if he's shooting at Drake, theres intent behind it.
I’m glad Reggie mentioned being petty. The reason I don’t think Cole can keep up in a wartime environment is because he doesn’t have a petty bone in his body. No doubt he has bars, but he won’t come with that same high level of petty as a Drake or Kendrick.
I think Kendrick is more prepared than he is calculated just from taking his time. Drake should have waited for Kendrick to drop the first diss track as Like That verse didn't warrent Push ups. Drake has constantly put himself at a disadvantage by going first and giving his opp the luxury of knowing what angle will work in response. But as a fan of hip hop I don't think we get these battles without him being willing to throw the first blow so I respect it. Without Not like us it would still be debatable who won. I think a battle between Kendrick and Cole would have been nothing but 7 minute drills. They can rap but neither has salacious rumors in the public that really sway how the larger audience scores it.
I hate how Reggie can ask a legit question to dead the whole topic but Alex and savon just keep talking 😂 “Dangerous like the king of pop” how is that a diss? Like if that was in reference to Drake isn’t that a big up? Like Alex just is the definition of loud and wrong 😂
Cole discovered Kendrick before he was signed to Dre and wanted to sign him. He was friends with Kendrick and were going to do an album. Kendrick and Cole are similar as men re:values. I respect Cole for not continuing a beef he didn’t feel genuine about. I like him more now
I don't disagree with that but please walk me thru why he took the bait and put the song out at all, if all of this was important to a man that us genuine with good values? Because I'm still confused why he even did it at all
Alex is reaching. It’s easy to decipher if you just listen and have a LITTTTLE music knowledge. Cole was just flexing MJ metaphors. - Michael Jackson = king of pop - Michael Jackson’s 1991 album “Dangerous” -Smooth Criminal (1987 MJ song) - “The whole gang doin' insane amount of lean” (MJ & back up dancers doing the lean forward dance move in “Smooth Criminal” video Debunked. No shots
I don't see how j Cole bowing out of a beef that he wasn't involved in is a stain on him now that time has passed he was never involved ever lol Edit: to add I had multiple people shame me for still buying vinyls , weirdest thing ever in a music sub on reddit no less
If we talkin rap skills drake doesn't even exist in the same dimension as Cole. And y'all need to stop acting like because cole didn't want to diss someone he has no problems with that he won't diss anyone. FOH
Also damn all these one hit wonders took me back. These song choices let me know we’re around the same age. For me it goes 5. This is Why I’m Hot 4. Like a G6 3. Drink in my Cup 2. Fancy (I still say first thing’s first I’m the realist) 1. Bed I should not have had bed one repeat in my mp3 player at 11. My previous fuck boy life choices are starting to make sense now.
Also, Rob Markman already confirmed that this record was recorded before Kendrick came out from his cave to throw his tantrum. Cole's verse didn't have anything to do with Drake or he and Kendrick's beef.
Cole is 10000% talking about Drake. From Kendrick saying “You did Cole foul”. Cole on a song with Rocky and Future. There is clearly tension between the two. Imo.
Savon is definitely being a prisoner of the moment that Cole decided to bow out. I myself haven't revisited MDL after he bowed out but for anyone to still be so hung up on that 6 months later is crazy unless he's a Drake stan or some shit.
@@jamalwilliams005 It does, but even as a fan that "moment" on stage tainted it for me. Everytime I even think about playing it, I think about that moment. And the crazy thing about it is if you go back to listen to the apology with a clear mind, you can hear that it wasn't even an apology to Kendrick. It was moreso him checking hisself publicly for allowing himself to move in a way that other's wanted him to instead of moving on his own accord.
@@r.johnson1170 Drake lost but im still bumping his projects. The beef doesn’t negate the great music those artist make and it doesn’t make me want to listen to Dot more
@@jamalwilliams005 I hear you, but it's a little different for me with MDL because it dropped a few days before the "apology" and had the diss track on it. So it's hard for me to disassociate that project with the drama that surrounded it.
I rocks with the podcast. My only issue with yall Drake take as far as him never backing down from a battle is that he has a team of writers. As true fans of hip hop, ion see how he gets any type of credit for that . I’m not even a huge kdot fan but I can acknowledge his greatness when it comes to rapping. Even Drake, he’s a great karaoke rapper/performer but I refuse to give him props just for participating. The real 20 v 1 was drakes 👻 writers vs Kendrick. Cole will wash Drake in a rap battle btw
Kendrick is my favorite but Cole could wash both if he really wanted too. Drake disses just have like..lil dicky type corny moments to me yo like the “mother I “ bar the singing in auto tune “oh ish..I get it..the truth is cooming to light” like idk it’s like when he get emotional his white side came out 😂
alex shooting jcole a lot of bail and drakes performance was definitely not as bad as he makes it seem. especially it being a 20v1 and not prerecorded like kendrick
That wasn’t Pink, that was Jenny McCarthy that tried to kiss JB. Since y’all platform is growing, and it’s already hard to tell what’s true or false in this Diddy case, and y’all have an in house journalist, I think y’all can do better with some of the sensationalist and conspiracy theory takes going down the timelines. Even when it comes to little details like that. Because now the cheesecake is as for Beyonce? I feel like we would’ve been heard that. And the jail he is in isn’t Downtown Brooklyn by Juniors it’s in Sunset Park.
I can’t wait for J Cole to drop the Fall Off & watch how everyone backtracks 😂
Y’all be throwing the word “scared” around way too loosely. He didn’t want yo go at it with Kendrick because he didn’t want to go at it with his brother with the gloves off? It just doesn’t feel right to him fight his bro over something that’s not deep, doesn’t mean he scared to thrown down with one of actual opps
Here is my issue with y’all. Him and Kendrick are friends. He didn’t want to go against his friend. Why don’t y’all understand that? He had no beef with no animosity. No hate. Y’all never felt that for someone?
Yeah... you 100% don't know that brother, but you can believe whatever you want tho. Everybody ain't gotta be cool. Friends would never get gassed up, put that record out and apologize in the first place. Hov would never make a diss track about Memphis Bleek or vice versa
@@cuegordon1178 I think he thought it was just going to be about pure skill and rap, and not all this other stuff that transpired. But to your point, Cole decided to bow out and that’s a knock on him
I don't think they were as close as friends as they once were, but I do think that there is respect there. The problem is people are trying to force this narrative of Cole not stepping in the ring "to prove he is the best" when the other two were on different timing. At no point were there conversations about rhyme schemes, flows, or lyricism when it came to Kendrick v. Drake. Niggas were out to prove that one was a pedophile and the other was beating his girl's ass. Niggas were making up kids and shit. Did anyone ever find Drake's daughter? Niggas spent a whole month trying to crack down on who "the mole" was. And "A MINOOOOOR" was probably the most quoted bar in the entire beef. Shit was all about character assassination, allegations, and 0 with who was lyrically better. These niggas are pushing 40 and were penning Shaderoom bars towards each other. People need to start being honest about that.
@@jamalwilliams005I feel you but man, he should've thought about that before hand. He's way too smart to understand that. He know damn well beef never is about being competitive on a skill level. It's a mud fight. History has proven that smh
@@cuegordon1178 yeah but history also shows it can go that way. Regardless he let himself down
If theres a battle between Cole and Drake and Cole with the shits, Drake is NOT outrapping Cole. Not even on Drakes best day. Cole walked him down on almost every song they had together. And DEFINITELY on their recent collabs. Cole won FPS and Evil Ways. And even though Cole backed out, I dont think that would happen for someone he has an actual issue with. He had no ill will for Dot. But if he's shooting at Drake, theres intent behind it.
Thank you..... if Cole get mad at Drake, he would destroy him lyrically
@@MrClbrown33 no ifs ands or buts. And everyone else already did the work. He just gotta write that shit in an immaculate way
Regi is always so fly, man
In hindsight Cole was just in the way. He apologized, get over it. Drake had to go. The shift is happening. Cole verse was top tier.
I’m glad Reggie mentioned being petty. The reason I don’t think Cole can keep up in a wartime environment is because he doesn’t have a petty bone in his body. No doubt he has bars, but he won’t come with that same high level of petty as a Drake or Kendrick.
I think Kendrick is more prepared than he is calculated just from taking his time. Drake should have waited for Kendrick to drop the first diss track as Like That verse didn't warrent Push ups.
Drake has constantly put himself at a disadvantage by going first and giving his opp the luxury of knowing what angle will work in response. But as a fan of hip hop I don't think we get these battles without him being willing to throw the first blow so I respect it.
Without Not like us it would still be debatable who won. I think a battle between Kendrick and Cole would have been nothing but 7 minute drills. They can rap but neither has salacious rumors in the public that really sway how the larger audience scores it.
This episode was amazing! This is yall at yall best!
I hate how Reggie can ask a legit question to dead the whole topic but Alex and savon just keep talking 😂
“Dangerous like the king of pop” how is that a diss? Like if that was in reference to Drake isn’t that a big up? Like Alex just is the definition of loud and wrong 😂
Right…and let’s be realistic Drake is the only person comparing Drake to the king of pop.
The blind ranking was hilarious 😂
Get It back in Blood 🩸 with the IRS is craaaaaazyyyy😂😂
Cole discovered Kendrick before he was signed to Dre and wanted to sign him. He was friends with Kendrick and were going to do an album. Kendrick and Cole are similar as men re:values. I respect Cole for not continuing a beef he didn’t feel genuine about. I like him more now
I don't disagree with that but please walk me thru why he took the bait and put the song out at all, if all of this was important to a man that us genuine with good values? Because I'm still confused why he even did it at all
Yall gon drag drake into every single convo 😵💫😂
Nahhh savon bodied that this is why I’m hot remix lol y’all playin 🤣🚨🔥
Savon low key having a Ant Edward’s breakout year in the pod world
Personal stories + in depth music breakdown + a fun game to end it. 10/10 !
Alex is reaching. It’s easy to decipher if you just listen and have a LITTTTLE music knowledge. Cole was just flexing MJ metaphors.
- Michael Jackson = king of pop
- Michael Jackson’s 1991 album “Dangerous”
-Smooth Criminal (1987 MJ song)
- “The whole gang doin' insane amount of lean” (MJ & back up dancers doing the lean forward dance move in “Smooth Criminal” video
Debunked. No shots
This was refreshing . Honest opinions no political affiliations . Intelligent truthful voices . Everyone’s voices felt heard . Thank you 🌊
Y’all make my workdays so much better every drop! Another banging episode. Regi got the best games for sure. Why was Joe pump it up not last ? lol
LMFAOOOOOOOOO meek having to dip it in the pool is crazy!!!😂😂😂
The sculpture behind Al is nice!
Lmao damn A don’t dislocate ya shoulder twin 😂😂😂
Yall are reaching on the J. Cole verse. The whole verse was literally full of Micheal Jackson references.
Spending 5 seconds on Future is crazy
Drake was ready for he battle but underestimated Kendrick based off of record sells and popularity
Drake forgot that Kendrick has us own pen
I don't see how j Cole bowing out of a beef that he wasn't involved in is a stain on him now that time has passed he was never involved ever lol
Edit: to add I had multiple people shame me for still buying vinyls , weirdest thing ever in a music sub on reddit no less
If we talkin rap skills drake doesn't even exist in the same dimension as Cole. And y'all need to stop acting like because cole didn't want to diss someone he has no problems with that he won't diss anyone. FOH
Nahh the iggy freestyle on sway was the one😂😂
Surprised Alex didn’t recognize that Iggy Freestyle was her biting Kendrick’s Look Out For Detox
This was a fucking good episode
1:19:50
"I wanna put you to bed Malik" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
(the game)
The Iggy verse was actually Kendrick’s from his song “Look Out For Detox”
Also damn all these one hit wonders took me back. These song choices let me know we’re around the same age. For me it goes
5. This is Why I’m Hot
4. Like a G6
3. Drink in my Cup
2. Fancy (I still say first thing’s first I’m the realist)
1. Bed
I should not have had bed one repeat in my mp3 player at 11. My previous fuck boy life choices are starting to make sense now.
Savon not paying his taxes 😂
Cole starting a beef over number 2 spot after giving up for the #1 spot is WILD
Love from SA🇿🇦
Leo was just at the Diddler's 50th BDay party
Also, Rob Markman already confirmed that this record was recorded before Kendrick came out from his cave to throw his tantrum. Cole's verse didn't have anything to do with Drake or he and Kendrick's beef.
Cole is 10000% talking about Drake. From Kendrick saying “You did Cole foul”. Cole on a song with Rocky and Future. There is clearly tension between the two. Imo.
Rob Markman got confirmation that the track was recorded before the "beef". It was a trade off during the same session that he and Daylyt recorded Pi.
Alex is reaching with the J cole verse.
If Cole decides he wants smoke, Drake should run
“This is why we Hooooooyte!!!”
Drake doesn't want rap smoke with Cole. Be glad Cole doesn't want battle smoke at all. Yall talking with your heart and not yall head and ears.
I thought she was talking about kendrick when regi said tiremarks 😂 lmao I never seen that clip
Alex smoked the blind ranking
I think if it was a LIVE battle like 3 round battle… cole takes that easy.
If you have to make any songs, Drake is taking that
J Cole will wash Drake in a rap battle
JCole will destroy Drake lyrically.... But maybe the memes Drake would win
Other than the insane reaches.. good pod! and Regi knows what she's doing with those legs 😅
Time for Parks to come back!
Savon is definitely being a prisoner of the moment that Cole decided to bow out. I myself haven't revisited MDL after he bowed out but for anyone to still be so hung up on that 6 months later is crazy unless he's a Drake stan or some shit.
MDL got some heat!
@@jamalwilliams005 It does, but even as a fan that "moment" on stage tainted it for me. Everytime I even think about playing it, I think about that moment. And the crazy thing about it is if you go back to listen to the apology with a clear mind, you can hear that it wasn't even an apology to Kendrick. It was moreso him checking hisself publicly for allowing himself to move in a way that other's wanted him to instead of moving on his own accord.
@@r.johnson1170 Drake lost but im still bumping his projects. The beef doesn’t negate the great music those artist make and it doesn’t make me want to listen to Dot more
@@jamalwilliams005 I hear you, but it's a little different for me with MDL because it dropped a few days before the "apology" and had the diss track on it. So it's hard for me to disassociate that project with the drama that surrounded it.
@@r.johnson1170 that’s fair
I rocks with the podcast. My only issue with yall Drake take as far as him never backing down from a battle is that he has a team of writers. As true fans of hip hop, ion see how he gets any type of credit for that . I’m not even a huge kdot fan but I can acknowledge his greatness when it comes to rapping. Even Drake, he’s a great karaoke rapper/performer but I refuse to give him props just for participating. The real 20 v 1 was drakes 👻 writers vs Kendrick. Cole will wash Drake in a rap battle btw
Kendrick is my favorite but Cole could wash both if he really wanted too.
Drake disses just have like..lil dicky type corny moments to me yo like the “mother I “ bar the singing in auto tune “oh ish..I get it..the truth is cooming to light” like idk it’s like when he get emotional his white side came out 😂
And that’s where we HAVE TO STOP HE DIDNT …. So stop … he isn’t as nice because he won’t prove it …. STOP
alex shooting jcole a lot of bail and drakes performance was definitely not as bad as he makes it seem. especially it being a 20v1 and not prerecorded like kendrick
Stay up on your taxes people.....the IRS doesnt play ..
When are they going to talk about Joe and Diddy?
Cole is tne better lyricist out of the 3. K dot is 2. Aubrey is 3.
Leave em the Fuke alone never try to diss shady
Justin Bieber was discovered in ‘09. Not early to mid 2000s 😂
That king of pop line had nothing to do with Drake lol listen to the next line “Dangerous as the king of pop with how well they spin your block”
Cole would wash Aubrey
Its the Boule, the dude getting pimped by diddy say they all in the Boule ! Do your googles !
"Did Cole foul, iono why you still pretending"
s/o all the 419ers
Alex is reaching with that J. Cole mess. Stretch next time please 😭😭
That wasn’t Pink, that was Jenny McCarthy that tried to kiss JB. Since y’all platform is growing, and it’s already hard to tell what’s true or false in this Diddy case, and y’all have an in house journalist, I think y’all can do better with some of the sensationalist and conspiracy theory takes going down the timelines. Even when it comes to little details like that. Because now the cheesecake is as for Beyonce? I feel like we would’ve been heard that. And the jail he is in isn’t Downtown Brooklyn by Juniors it’s in Sunset Park.
I wonder if Savon really like this or if he just extra for the pod😭 bro opinions be mad annoying 😂
“We aint gotta stay on this topic for too long”….. *stays on Diddy topic for 30+ minutes*
Iggy is not a 1 hit wonder
*Cole left his man to die* 👎
I think Drake can beat Cole I don't know why but Cole is really not like that