The 40 Essential Drum Rudiments - Tier List
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Which rudiment is your favorite? (essential or non-essential)
Mine is the herta. The single stroke roll is a close second.
Pataflafla wins by the name alone
There all good aslong as you do them on a gong hi-hat
Flam 5
Double stroke roll is my favorite. We literally would do this for an hour at Northern Aurora. It helps immensely
I was always a fan of the eggbeater.
Okay now write a cadence using all 40 rudiments 👀😩
There is allready a Cadence named Drum Corps on Parade
I have written a cadence using all 40 Rudiments. The snares plays from 40 to 1, the tenors and basses 1-4 play from 1 to 40, Bass 5 lays down an ostinato funk rhythm to provide some groove. I wrote, and posted, it on Noteflight. 👍🏾
@@mrnoname2353 I love Drum Corps on Parade!
Try the ‘Connecticut Halftime’. it’s got most of them
Sdjmalik did it
As a drum set player, I would argue that the six stroke roll is A tier since it is a life saver when playing triplet fills orchestrated around the drums
Its the first rudiment that I started spamming the shit out of and using in every fill lmao
truuueee probably one of the most versitile rudiments ever and sound amazing .
Agreed, on drumset I play 6's just as much as 5's, usually in triplet form.
Agreed. Also, double paradiddles are very useful on a drumkit as well.
@@joshuaallgood7030 Seconded. The Purdy Shuffle is basically an orchestrated double paradiddle on loop
6:03 my high school Drumline 2018 be like… 😂
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@@jesselazenby912 we wish, but it was an april fools thumbnail.
Well now you gotta rank all the hybrid rudiments 🙃
Ratamacues were super common in 60's era drum corps. If you look up an old Reilly Raiders solo called "Grey Ghost," you will see how prevalent they were back then. (Heck, it may even be good content to play it, as it is so dramatically different.)
The quadruple ratamacue is my absolute favorite by a stick shot, er I mean a long shot
Id prefer it by a rim-shot
I prefer the quinseptuagintuple ramataque
For drumset players like myself, the Double Paradidle is really good to play some nice Afro-Cuban 6/8 grooves. 6 stroke rolls are also really good in sextuplet form. The flam accent is probably my favourite though (after singles doubles and paradidles)
Also great for marching band snare solo (football game) going from single paradiddles to double paradiddles are nice
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26 rudiments were the ones that were learned "back in the day." I agree, a lot of other ones are, in fact, redundant to others.
The double stroke "open" roll is still the most important one, IMO.
Great to get caught up on today's rudiments!
Loved this. Education and humor. Seems like 45 years ago I was only taught 25 rudiments. Kind of like the periodic table. It just keeps growing.
I was accepted into the V Corps band as a percussionist because I knew all 40 International Rudiments, while the percussionists had only been taught the 25 American Standard. When I was asked to play the Swiss Army Triplet, I played them alternating the lead hand. The sergeant stopped me and asked if they were consecutive, I said yes, played them that way, and he was floored. That was in 1992. 😊
@@derrickburwell7777 I was playing mid-late ‘70s. Don’t think there was a Swiss Army much less a Swiss Army triplet. 😉
Agreed for the most part. That being said what if each one was a signaling something as a communication. Drums were ancestrally used to signal troops to action
New soldier: ooh this is a drum, let’s play something I’ve learned in high school.
His fellow soldiers: WHO TF TOLD YOU THE COMMANDER IS DEAD?
African talking drums. Whistlers of the canary.digiridoo of australia
They were called essential because they were used by military to call army or navy personal to take specific actions during combat
7:38 just wanna say in drum set drumming, especially in the rock and metal genres, the double paradiddle is used ALL the time, especially in grooves
see as a generic example "Glasgow Kiss" by John Petrucci when the drums come in near the start
Glasgow kiss, is a local euphemism here in Glasgow for a head but, like when you smash someone in the nose with your head, during a Buckfast fuelled altercation.
Pantera, Slaughtered. Bridge.
There's a great double paradiddle part in the Dave Matthew's Band song "Drive In Drive Out". Not a drum corps thing, I know, but it's great to see how rudiments beyond single and double stroke rolls are applied to mainstream music.
It’s just Carter Beaford working his magic.
That part took me 2 years to master!
really wish the PAS rudiments are changed, feels outdated for most modern percussion applications, agree with almost everything you said but flam drag is probably one the of the hardest if not the hardest one on the PAS 40 and it's an awesome chop builder. For me it deserves A or B.
Ok. So I sat through this video. I'm a horn player. I played Horn and Mellophone in High School. I then went and enlisted in the Army for 3 years. In 2001 I found DCA Drum Corps. Played til 2005. Was a member of the 2003 DCA World Champions. Played Mellophone, Soprano, and Trumpet. So I know what Drum Corps Drummers have to do.
That you're USMC D&BC gives you credibility and my utmost respect.
That said....I watched Every. Single. One. Sorry for my hornline ignorance, but after about 5 minutes they all sound the same to me. I'm glad you understand them, because I sure don't.
That said, I do love watching your stuff. Keep up the work!
the one person who disliked just doesn't have the chops to play any of the rudiments
as a drum set player, double strokes are awesome for very fast fills if you cant single stroke fast enough. Paradiddles and inverted paradiddles are fun for fills too
As someone who marched drum corps and has been teaching high school drumlines for several years, I've learned that if you can learn to play an accent, tap, buzz, diddle, and flam, you can play almost anything written for corps-style marching. Pretty much everything you will ever need to play is just a combination of one or more of those ideas lol
Man. I love your videos. Keep doing what you’re doing man. You’re making the whole drumming community happy. Thanks for putting so much hard work in the videos. 👌👌
You have no know how much you just helped this non percussion playing music teacher 😂
We need a hybrid rudiment tier list now!
You literally put the best rudiment last, I can’t believe this. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
I just want to say thank you for spending your time making funny and good videos for people like me I hope you get the amount of subs you deserve in the near future. Thank you
Excellent performance of the rudiments Eric! Great chops man. BTW I love the triple stroke rolls.
I’m early AF! I loved the tier list, and I love your content! Always gives me a good morning! I hope you have a great morning and good rest of your April!
The double paradiddle appears in Fife and Drum music from time to time, especially when passing off for higher ranks.
Flam Paradiddles are frequent in show style percussion features, I believe
Great video! Did not realise it was 20 minutes long until it finished. Agree with you for most of the rudiments. Especially for how cool it is to pronounce Pataflafla.
Rather than interpreting drags as a diddled sixteenth, I like to think it as more of the last partial of a triplet, but diddled (when metrically applied, obviously in a concert setting you can have fluid interpretation)
Personally I love the flow of flam paradiddles! Blue Devils used them in their opener for Metamorph (2017) and it works well, IMO. Then again, snare/percussion isn’t my primary instrument so my opinion doesn’t hold a ton of weight.
Four years of marching and I finally get a double paradiddle . Followed by 8th notes on the left . Because that makes sense
I wish this video existed when I was learning the rudiments. I was always wondering if I was playing it right or it sounding right. Great video still my guy
You should do the hybrid rhythm tier list next for all of us corp style people
I just got in my high school drumline and I’m really excited
Go practice. 🙂
Literally don’t stop practicing 😐
Awesome! Have a good time.
Practice and learn your music!
This is the best video I have seen to learn all of those rudiments. I agree also, I think of these as rhythms also and have hit most of them just playing through the years. I did learn all of them in band lessons too tho! Just play set more than big band so had to learn a lot of it myself n transfer the knowledge to the kit like they did in the 60s and 70s
Hi! I saw your untilvalhalla video and came all the way to this channel! This is my warm-up today🔥
Thank you! I played marching snare in high-school but lost interest in college bc we had a terrible teacher. Now that I'm in my 30s, I fell back in love with it. You have helped me get my chops back. Thanks again!
Being a trap set player in jazz ensemble, double paradiddles where a great way to cheat a bembe rhythm on the ride bell ;)
“You can’t just roll for ever, you gotta sleep and poop n stuff.....” you can never take the potty mouth out of a percussionist lol! In all seriousness this is an outstanding video!
Haha! I thought it was just me and my drumline who had potty mouths. The more percussionists I know the more I realize they all do.
The drag rudiments variations makes a lot more sense if played like "ruffs" and closer to the main note. It's how you would usually play it in classical music to match/line up with the wind and brass parts. How tight they should be varies a LOT and it's something I have herd conductors comment on multiple actions. Also the drags strokes (and flams) in the "European style" uses more of a "3 stick height system" where the grace notes are noticeable softer then the taps (1"), instead of using the same height for both "drum core style". This makes them a beeeeatch to play and the level of control needed for the downward motion is even greater. So in those cases the drag rudiment is essential to practice and variations of them is in the standard orchestra excerpt for classical snare drums, just because they are so hard to get. And don't get me started on the "three stroke ruff" =P
The flammed mill, too, is good for practicing the completely open sticking of the cheese rudiment!
I'm learning more about drumming than I ever thought I would. Or maybe even wanted to. And yet I'm still here!
Thanks, Sir!
Your videos are awesome 👍
Much respect for being a marine and being one hell of a drummer
my dad was a marine 52 thru 55
After 50 years of playing I always thought lesson 25 was useless too. Alternating makes it cool.
I like your scientific breakdown of the rudiments . I really like drum lines and their choreography.Its cool stuff.
Brilliant! I completely agree with your list. And the video was entertaining. Good stuff!
Great breakdown of these "standard" rudiments. I appreciate the tier ranking. Pretty accurate in my opinion.
Beautiful chart. Thanks!
My very first drum lesson, I was given the following rudiments:
Single and Double stroke roll
Paradiddle, double para, and triple para
I think I'd put the double and triple paradiddle as A tier, for a kit drummer. The double paradiddle is great for mixing it up in a triplet form, and the triple is actually good for getting your off hand some time leading the roll.
I'm a non drummer hopeful composer and this is really helping me think outside the box for percussion writing
this helps a lot sense my drum line try out is in a couple days
Love your videos! I think I agree with the majority of your list. I’d possibly put the triple stroke role up into the “A” category but that’s really just splitting hairs. The one I think you placed in the “F” category I would place way higher (“A” or “B”) is the single stroke seven. In contrast to the basic single stroke roll, players have to re-attack the rhythm and release the rhythm. It can help teach consistent note spacing in single sticking rhythms all the way to a release, as well as force players to focus on second note volume/quality.
Pataflalas, Swiss Army triplets, flam taps, and flam accents are all fun to apply around the drum set
I always used the double paradiddle as a way to begin/write snare splits.
I like how serious and funny this video was !
Thanks for this great rudiments analysing work.
Btw, final results are at 20:05 😉
Thank you for such useful and necessary lessons! Super!
Double paradiddles are a nice way to toss off the lead to the other such as in runs going up and down the quads. Feels a little goofy at first, but it's fun to do with triplet doubles and paradiddlediddles
As an exclusive kit player (who has spent way too much time on the pad) I love a double paradiddle and use it all over the place..! You can stick it in a jazz groove, or a nice little halftime shuffle. And if you’re playing a 6/8 Latin thing - the right hand is (almost) replicating the 6/8 clavé pattern (enough to get by on at a push).
Muy buen vídeo! Gracias
Herta herta shot supremacy
The double paradiddle is cooler if you add an accent on the third note. You should play around with those - I am surprised you have never written them. But my favorite rudiment by far is the swiss army triplet. I could play those super fast before I even knew what they were (Basically I just played a bad roll....but it felt like I was doing something really cool.)
Got auditions for drumline today! Going for snare this year. Wish me luck!
PATAFLAFLA!!! Great rudiment!
My favorites are flam accents, paradiddles, and paradiddle-diddles.
My high school drumline never wrote or played flams. Our techs saw them as basically controlled dirt and never even tried to teach us how to play clean grace notes, focusing on clean diddles instead
The six stroke roll is S or A, it's use a ton on the kit especially in metal bands like dream theater
The problem is that when we play a “6 stroke roll” on the kit we are really doing something like an inverted paradiddlediddle with an extra accent and he already has that as A tier. Check the rhythm.
I love how PAS doesn't notate the double drag tap in the traditional sense. I honestly think it sounds better when old snare drummers slur the hell out of it anyway.
As a pipe band drummer and also a military side drummer I feel like the main thing that comes up is double strokes singles single paradiddles and 5,7&13 stroke rolls and the 25 stoke roll or 3 pace roll
I find Lesson 25 kind of fun (though it does make me wonder what the first 24 lessons are, and why none of them made the list, and why it's #34 on the rudiment sheet). I've always alternated right and left every time, I'm not even sure I knew that's not how it's supposed to go.
Single stroke seven is used in ancient rudimental/fife and drum to double flamacues, and flam-paradiddles are probably the most common rudiment there. You’ve never played Downfall of Paris? lol
I personally really like the single flammed mill and the swiss army triplet and feel they should be higher on the list because they teach you how to layer together an inverted double with one hand and a regular double with the other.
Is the bunny shirt also essential? Asking for a friend
Yes. S tier.
Just the video I needed :) 20:04 for the final tier-list
Do 16ths Swiss trips over a steady 4 on the floor. Put first flam on the "e" of 1. 2nd flam on 2, etc. Close your hihats on every other "and".
Have fun!
pataflafla was my fave from drumline, and the swiss triplets...
My personal favorite rudiment is the swiss army triplet as it helps me get into faster playing as i’m trying to build up my snare chops
In jazz drumming i tend to use triplet fills so i’m also starting to use swiss army’s for more diversity on the drum set and to build up my snare skills whilst playing set
Funny to see how you find the single stroke 4s and 7s useless while I've had to play them for years as a more military European style. It's amazing to get to know more styles like this.
Dude can I just say, I have been playing drums for nearly 8 years now. I have never been as technically proficient as someone with my experience should be. This video is a big reason as to why I am right into my rudiments at the moment. You have inspired me to practice them all. PATAFLAFLA!
Eliud Ayala Jr. who usually writes (wgi) Impact Percussion's show music likes to use double paradiddles a lot
Either way supports the algorithm... Classic EMC!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd love to see your version of 40 essential rudaments
Thinking of flams/pataflafla as MOLLER technique = 🤯 never thought of it like that been playing > 20 years. I 100% agree with your rankings accept I think practicing 7's helps your timing/understanding of 6/8 & 12/8 time signatures but that's just IMO..
AWESOME video literally should be required reading for any drummer. Subed and 🔔
Cheers \m/ !!!
4:07 Five stroke rolls are the most common and most important rudiment besides paradiddles in show style bands.
I've been spending time with the paradiddle diddle lately, so, I'll go with that for now.
Hands down as a quad player, sextuplet paradiddlediddles and any flam drag /cheese /cheese 5 were my absolute favorite
The pataflafla appears in higher level Fife and Drum music frequently. “Crazy Army” has a few.
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As a drumset guy, I look at how rudiments can be applied musically at least as much as how good they are for building chops. Double paradiddles complement paradiddle diddles - you can play similar things with both, but the double paradiddle allows you to switch lead hands, which is great if you're reaching to opposite ends of the kit to hit cymbals, for example. I use it less than the paradiddle diddle though. Same with flam accent vs. Swiss triplet - I find the latter more musically useful, and would rank it higher than the flam accent. Single ratamacue is also very useful. On the other side, rudiments like the flamacue and the inverted flam tap I find not to be very useful, and would rank them lower. Otherwise, I mostly agree with your rankings.
For anyone who's ever wondered why the list includes a rudiment called the single flammed mill, but not a non-flammed mill, I wish PAS saw fit to at least mention the single paradiddle inversions.
My favorite rudiment is probably the single paradiddle inversion with the diddle in the middle. Super useful, and it's a little bit easier to play than the "root position" single paradiddle.
I have the same feelings about the double paradiddle. I think of it as the paradiddle for triplets, because it changes the lead hand.
I see the 7 stroke roll written functionally as a 1 beat, 6th note tap roll. An accent on "1", diddle on "e & a"
"Keep your grace note down!!!"-Dennis DeLucia
To be fair, I'd agree, 100% with your list.
Just as a pause for thought, at what point do anything below the S Tier just become variants of the S Tier? That's just something that I've always wondered!
great job!
my heart sank, I didn't see the date and thought he shaved
Man I love it! I also agree with the S and the A. The rest i totally ignore anywaaaay! (The rhyme was not intended)
I think you now need to do a video playing these rudiments in the order of your Tier List ... So we can judge the accuracy of your choices ...
(Although really, who am I to judge your choices? 😂🤣)
Anyway, it would be a good way for me as a newbie to learn what is essential ...
AND where would you put Hertas? S Tier, After 4. Multiple Bounce Roll and Before 16. Single Paradiddle?
I think it’s hilarious you don’t even TALK about the Triple Ratamacue. I laughed by backside off watching that last part!
I should make a reaction to this with my opinion considering I do traditional style marching band