The Didache | Another Book That Almost Made It Into the Bible?

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  • @ReligionForBreakfast
    @ReligionForBreakfast  3 місяці тому +45

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    • @AnnoyingNewsletters
      @AnnoyingNewsletters 3 місяці тому +3

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    • @ekmalsukarno2302
      @ekmalsukarno2302 3 місяці тому +2

      Hi there, ReligionForBreakfast, can you please make a video on Balinese Hinduism and how it differs Hinduism in India. Thank you very much.

    • @Rope_Adope
      @Rope_Adope 3 місяці тому

      @@AnnoyingNewslettersis that bad?

    • @Rope_Adope
      @Rope_Adope 3 місяці тому

      Didache huh?

    • @Osoronnophris
      @Osoronnophris 3 місяці тому

      seeing that there are some who, although having wings, rush upon the visible things, things that are far from the truth. For that which guides them, the fire, will give them an illusion of truth, and will shine on them with a perishable beauty, and it will imprison them in a dark sweetness and captivate them with fragrant pleasure. And it will blind them with insatiable lust and burn their souls and become for them like a stake stuck in their heart which they can never dislodge. And like a bit in the mouth, it leads them according to its own desire. And it has fettered them with its chains and bound all their limbs with the bitterness of the bondage of lust for those visible things that will decay and change and swerve by impulse. They have always been attracted downwards; as they are killed, they are assimilated to all the beasts of the perishable realm."

  • @Grenzfalle-kt5ev
    @Grenzfalle-kt5ev 3 місяці тому +821

    "you can read it in 20 min"
    "nevermind, I'll summarize it for you"
    -17min video

  • @LuisGomez-ft9pr
    @LuisGomez-ft9pr 3 місяці тому +1052

    i was in fact having breakfast while watching this video

    • @TheCagamerda
      @TheCagamerda 3 місяці тому +70

      You had the most Holy Breakfast

    • @ReligionForBreakfast
      @ReligionForBreakfast  3 місяці тому +387

      Breakfast for Breakfast

    • @Prodigi50
      @Prodigi50 3 місяці тому +42

      Religion for Breakfast with Breakfast.

    • @lilalexei01
      @lilalexei01 3 місяці тому +2

      Same.

    • @SlimShady-gs8pl
      @SlimShady-gs8pl 3 місяці тому +13

      Shoutout to the west coasters. On my lunch break here on the east coast.

  • @umang3227
    @umang3227 3 місяці тому +407

    I am from India and really got into western religions because of your channel. Your videos are always very informative.

    • @VoidHalo
      @VoidHalo 3 місяці тому +31

      That is so cool. I'm on the other side of things. Being Canadian and living around Christianity all my life. Now, I am learning about Eastern religions such as Hinduism, Buddhism, and Sikhism.
      Unfortunately, there aren't many resources locally, or even on the internet that goes very much in detail about any of these religions. Unless I read scripture like the Vedas or something. But that is difficult to understand.
      It is actually very common for people in the West to seek to learn about Eastern religions. For whatever personal reason they have. Whether curiosity, or they intend to find a new religion. Even The Beatles did it.
      Don't ever be discouraged from learning about anything new. I, for one, respect the hell out of anyone who takes it upon themselves to learn new things or works to improve themselves when nobody is forcing it on them.
      I believe we must always strive for self improvement, as no person is ever perfect. So, there's always something to work on.

    • @ipolygon1
      @ipolygon1 3 місяці тому +32

      Our religion sprung out of the levant. Don’t view it as simply a western religion. It is just as much the religion of Asians as it is Americans.
      Everyone is welcomed that’s the whole point.

    • @umang3227
      @umang3227 3 місяці тому +26

      @@VoidHalo You can't read the Vedas straight away. They are a collection of hymns that were supposed to be sung during rituals. If you wanna check out some of the philosophical stuff of Hinduism, you should read Upanishads. If you are really into stories like Biblical stories you should definitely read Mahabharata and Ramayana. They are very much like Iliad and Odyssey and would be an interesting read. And while you do that I will read my Bible :)

    • @BadgerOfTheSea
      @BadgerOfTheSea 3 місяці тому +2

      So interesting to see it from the other side. A lot of westerners are obsessed with eastern religions

    • @TheFallingFlamingo
      @TheFallingFlamingo 3 місяці тому +1

      He's got some really interesting videos on non-Abrahamic religions, as well.
      He's the only reason I have any understanding of what a Buddha is.

  • @JackyTheFranciscan
    @JackyTheFranciscan 3 місяці тому +212

    I have a copy of the Didache. It gets a lot of hype for such a small book but it's so old yet so familiar when it come to Christian beliefs

    • @JackyTheFranciscan
      @JackyTheFranciscan 3 місяці тому +18

      @@robertwarner-ev7wp to be fair it is a very short book

    • @JeremyMacDonald1973
      @JeremyMacDonald1973 3 місяці тому +20

      @@robertwarner-ev7wp Presumably it could draw on a lot of per-Christian sources but it is pretty hard to be earlier then Paul. Jesus dies in and about AD 30 and we think the first of Paul's letters is around AD 40.
      My take is it might well be in parallel to Paul. We know Paul basically preached among the Gentiles while there was already a large (and after AD 70 rapidly growing) population of Apocalyptic Jews. As noted this is pretty Jewish text and could well have caught on more among early Jewish Christians. This would also help to explain its later rejection from the Bible.

    • @justiniand6a788
      @justiniand6a788 3 місяці тому +14

      ​@@robertwarner-ev7wp, the Anaphora of Pseudo-Hippolytus written centuries later (Pre-Constantine) also has ambiguous language regarding the corporal nature of the Eucharist yet it's very clear from contemporary and previous writings that the Real Presence was believed by the time that anaphora was written so ambiguity in the prayer doesn't necessarily negate belief in the belief in the Real Presence. Also, within the Didache, the Eucharist is referred to as a sacrifice and specifically as the sacrifice prophesied in Malachi 1:11, a notion memorialists would reject and denounce as Popery.

    • @rumrunner8019
      @rumrunner8019 3 місяці тому +20

      It resembled classic Christian beliefs and practices, but it may as well be describing another religion when it comes to some modern sects. I would imagine the Christians who first read the Didache would run away terrified if they walked into a Pentecostal church and they wouldn't recognize it as "Christian" in any way, shape, or form.

    • @CountJeffula
      @CountJeffula 2 місяці тому

      I use it to keep my slaves in line. I’m a model of God, after all.

  • @kightsun
    @kightsun 3 місяці тому +212

    Almost? It's in mine. *Laughs in Oriental Orthodox*

    • @DANtheMANofSIPA
      @DANtheMANofSIPA 3 місяці тому +8

      Do you guys have the Epistle of Barnabas or The Shepard of Hermes? Those arent in our EO Bible but those two plus the Apostolic Canons and Fathers and Didache are usually highly suggested readings.

    • @kightsun
      @kightsun 3 місяці тому +31

      @@DANtheMANofSIPA we do not have a set canon (this is all technically true for EO and even Lutherans) each synod decides its own canon. The full Antilegomena is all works in church history ever found on a canon list of an Orthodox synod. Due to this the list is technically open ended, since new discoveries in extant texts could add to it. In short, yes, the Epistle of Barnabas is Deuterocanonical in the OO Church.

    • @henrimourant9855
      @henrimourant9855 3 місяці тому +1

      The text was lost though (although scholars knew about it through references that Church fathers made to it). Until, that is, 1873 when it was rediscovered. So I don't think it's part of any traditional Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox cannon unless they updated the cannon after 1883 (when it was first published after its rediscovery). My understanding is that Oriental Orthodox churches have the same new testament cannon as everyone else. It's the old testament where things differ.

    • @kightsun
      @kightsun 3 місяці тому +10

      @@henrimourant9855 they have. The antilegomena includes works that have historically been in synodical canons which may no longer show up in modern lists from the same synod. For example the Armenian Synod historically used third Corinthians but it is no longer listed in any modern Orthodox synod list.

    • @feelin_fine
      @feelin_fine 3 місяці тому +7

      This whole thread is fascinating!

  • @michaelcamp6076
    @michaelcamp6076 3 місяці тому +79

    9:35 “the end could come at any…“ [UA-cam ad break] “moment.”
    I lolled

  • @ctusiard9755
    @ctusiard9755 3 місяці тому +106

    Actually watching the video as I work, not even a break.

  • @nathangibbons9492
    @nathangibbons9492 3 місяці тому +77

    Thank you! So happy we get two in one week

    • @ReligionForBreakfast
      @ReligionForBreakfast  3 місяці тому +34

      Been a busy week in the Religion For Breakfast household. Another video coming next week too.

    • @jasonchahal5262
      @jasonchahal5262 3 місяці тому +1

      @@ReligionForBreakfast Oh wow bro is on a roll

  • @Welshcobluver
    @Welshcobluver 3 місяці тому +26

    I froze from shoveling food into my mouth when you said we were probably on lunch break.. you got me there😂

    • @MsV-PhD
      @MsV-PhD Місяць тому

      Lol, he saw you

  • @matthewmaguire7328
    @matthewmaguire7328 3 місяці тому +131

    Thank you for all you do! From a religious studies undergraduate!

    • @ReligionForBreakfast
      @ReligionForBreakfast  3 місяці тому +21

      Good luck with the semester!

    • @justin12537
      @justin12537 3 місяці тому +1

      Stop learning fairy tales and become a classicist. Protect the sources. Dont try and fit them into a presupposition of religion

    • @Herobeans
      @Herobeans 3 місяці тому

      ​​@@justin12537What???

    • @Rako250
      @Rako250 3 місяці тому +5

      @@justin12537 bro stop talking

    • @thegenderfluidthing8660
      @thegenderfluidthing8660 3 місяці тому +1

      @justin12537 Thanks for destroying the classics. Sending hate from a religious Classicist🥰🥰

  • @ΙωάννηςΚήτος
    @ΙωάννηςΚήτος 3 місяці тому +72

    Given the opportunity, in Greek we adopted the names of the week from the Hebrews, so our name for Monday is "The Second (day after the Sabbath) while our word for Friday is "Παρασκευή" which literally means "Preparation (for the Sabbath). So in the text of the Didache, it's not the"Second and the Fifth (day after the Sabbath)" in the Greek original, it's literally the respective names of the week , just a small detail of course

    • @samantarmaxammadsaciid5156
      @samantarmaxammadsaciid5156 3 місяці тому

      In the Qur’aan, there are only two days mentioned Sabt (Yawmu-sSabt = the Resting day; the seventh day. Corresponding to the seven Skies / Heavens < Sabᶜu Samaawaat) = Saturday, and Jumuᶜat (the sixth day. Corresponding to the six days creation in the Qur’aan; the Friday Prayer, as Yawmu-lJumuᶜat = the Gathered day) = Friday.
      Together Correspond to the the Duality of physical created.
      However, in the ᶜArabic language, from Sunday to Thursday are counted days: Yawmu-lAḥad = the first day, Yawmu-lİṯnayn = the second day, Yawmu-lArbiᶜaa’ = the fourth day, Yawmu-lḴamiis = the fifth day.
      These five Unnamed days (corresponding to the five İslaamic daily prayers) are within the Named two days, altogether = duality! Plurality within the dual, and the dual within the One, = İsm = Name, = Aadam! İsm = Name and Samaa’ = Sky, are part of the triliteral root-pattern S-M-W

    • @nikhtzatzi
      @nikhtzatzi 3 місяці тому +1

      After Sunday *. Sunday is the first day, sabbath is 7th

    • @ΙωάννηςΚήτος
      @ΙωάννηςΚήτος 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nikhtzatzi so Monday would be "The First Day after Sunday" wouldn't it?

    • @nikhtzatzi
      @nikhtzatzi 3 місяці тому +3

      @@ΙωάννηςΚήτος Monday literally means "Second day" , meaning simply : 2nd day of the week.
      And indeed we use the hebrew week. Just changing the first day for "lord's day" cause of the ressurection.

    • @ΙωάννηςΚήτος
      @ΙωάννηςΚήτος 3 місяці тому

      @@nikhtzatzi in this case then it is "Δευτέρα" as in the "Second Day of the week" not the "Second Day AFTER Sunday" (which is Tuesday), which is the intended purpose of the people who introduced into Greek the Hebrew convention I guess

  • @shinygoldcar
    @shinygoldcar 3 місяці тому +14

    I wrote an essay on the Didache for the final year of an undergraduate degree, so I enjoy seeing videos about it. You did not mention that much of the Didache is in Book VII of the Apostolic Constitutions. Anyway, it is a fascinating piece of work, showing Jewish Christians wrestling with how to teach and accept Gentile Christians into their fold. Thank you.

  • @xaayer
    @xaayer 3 місяці тому +38

    And yet my mom will still insist that the early Christians only worshiped on Saturday until the catholic church changed the rules.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 3 місяці тому

      Protestants make up lots of b.s. about the real Church

    • @LivingInTheKaliYogurt
      @LivingInTheKaliYogurt 3 місяці тому +12

      Is she a 7th Day Adventist?

    • @xaayer
      @xaayer 3 місяці тому +9

      @@LivingInTheKaliYogurt yep

    • @hartfartpoptart
      @hartfartpoptart 3 місяці тому

      Ignatius clearly worshiped on Sunday.

    • @clearskybluewaters
      @clearskybluewaters 3 місяці тому

      lol how do you know thats the earliest layer? it was added to over time

  • @Hiddensecret9
    @Hiddensecret9 3 місяці тому +11

    While not canonized, the Didache remains a valuable resource for understanding the foundations of Christian ethics and liturgical practices. Its teachings continue to inspire scholars, theologians, and believers seeking to connect with the roots of their faith.

  • @anthonyp3113
    @anthonyp3113 3 місяці тому +44

    Super slow Friday at work so this is a blessing! Thanks RFB!

  • @xUncleA123x
    @xUncleA123x 3 місяці тому +29

    4:55 The Didache doesn't "insist". It literally says "...in living water. But if you have no living water, baptize into other water; and if you cannot do so in cold water, do so in warm. But if you have neither, pour out water three times upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit." That is basically giving an ideal, but giving pretty much every exception for baptism. Doesn't matter if it's flowing or not, cold or warm, or dunked or poured.

    • @winnebagotrout1997
      @winnebagotrout1997 3 місяці тому +1

      He literally mentions the exceptions right after, did you not watch the full video?

    • @xUncleA123x
      @xUncleA123x 3 місяці тому +12

      @@winnebagotrout1997 No, he mentions the exceptions right before and then contradicts himself saying it "insists on...". The exceptions show that it isn't insisting. It's giving an ideal and then basically every exception so that there isn't a barrier on getting baptized.

    • @CountJeffula
      @CountJeffula 2 місяці тому +1

      So, enzyme grade pure water wouldn’t work. It’s not alive enough. Bring out the nasty church sink and gunk, folks. We need this water living!

    • @xUncleA123x
      @xUncleA123x 2 місяці тому +2

      @@CountJeffula "Living water" is an idiom that comes from Hebrew into English for flowing water, which is why I said at the end of my comment "Doesn't matter if it's flowing or not..."
      So actually enzyme grade pure water would work because the Didache says "But if you have no living (flowing) water, baptize into other water"
      So your (anti-Christian?) critique doesn't work.

    • @CountJeffula
      @CountJeffula 2 місяці тому

      @@xUncleA123x my critique is still valid because they had no idea how germs worked and just knew that flowing river water was safer than stagnant swamp water. Now, the Ganges flows, but I’m sure they wouldn’t want people using that water to baptize either. It’s just funny an all knowing, all present, all good God would allow such ignorance in His Bible and related texts.

  • @sjappiyah4071
    @sjappiyah4071 2 місяці тому +6

    The Didache provides such a fascinating window into early Christian life.

  • @Abelard4567
    @Abelard4567 3 місяці тому +6

    Glad you did this video - I find the Didache to be a fascinating text and very useful as a window into early church practices.

  • @thorpeaaron1110
    @thorpeaaron1110 3 місяці тому +2

    Another gem of an episode Dr. Henry keep it up.

  • @matthewmelson1780
    @matthewmelson1780 3 місяці тому +180

    As a Catholic the Didache is not part of the Bible but it is used as a foundational text explaining the historical proof of traditions in the Church.

    • @Desperate-Drive3423
      @Desperate-Drive3423 3 місяці тому +9

      misuse it to help spread your fals teachings you mean

    • @matthewmelson1780
      @matthewmelson1780 3 місяці тому

      @@Desperate-Drive3423 nice try satan

    • @Sl33pyAlligat0r
      @Sl33pyAlligat0r 3 місяці тому +6

      What does you being Catholic have to do with the Didache's status as noncanonical?

    • @matthewmelson1780
      @matthewmelson1780 3 місяці тому

      @@Desperate-Drive3423 ok satan

    • @janploch5894
      @janploch5894 3 місяці тому +48

      @@Sl33pyAlligat0r Different types of Christians consider different books canonical.

  • @redflags6583
    @redflags6583 3 місяці тому +41

    Jokes on you, I'm watching this as I'm about to go to bed! Religion for bedtime!

    • @asterlyons8564
      @asterlyons8564 2 місяці тому

      Im having Religion for Dinner, alongside some penne i baked in a garlic cream sauce

  • @Thelaretus
    @Thelaretus 3 місяці тому +13

    In the Catholic Church, we revere the Didache as the first Catechism and a witness to Apostolic Tradition.

    • @andrewvaughan2911
      @andrewvaughan2911 2 місяці тому +2

      Why is the apostolic authority not continued today?

    • @Thelaretus
      @Thelaretus 2 місяці тому

      @@andrewvaughan2911 It is! Search for 'apostolic succession'.

    • @tylerprime674
      @tylerprime674 Місяць тому

      @@andrewvaughan2911To Orthodox and Catholics, it is. Through Patriarchs, Bishops, and priests

    • @MrSprigg
      @MrSprigg 27 днів тому

      ​@@andrewvaughan2911It is.

  • @slipknot73745
    @slipknot73745 3 місяці тому +16

    I can't believe you called out my lunch break like that!

  • @TrevorJC
    @TrevorJC 3 місяці тому +4

    I did not know about this, so cool. Always new stuff to learn.

  • @Joejoejoe1967
    @Joejoejoe1967 13 днів тому

    Your videos give peace of mind

  • @johntaylor9381
    @johntaylor9381 3 місяці тому +10

    Have you ever heard of Caodaism? It’s a monotheistic syncretic religion from Vietnam that has somewhere between 4-6 million members that I’ve only just learned about a few weeks ago. If you have time, I think I video discussing their history and beliefs would be fascinating.

  • @fanfoire
    @fanfoire 3 місяці тому +37

    "Inside you are two wolves" - Jesus

  • @ElkoJohn
    @ElkoJohn 3 місяці тому +3

    Thanks! Excellent video. Could be this document sheds light on the jewish-jesus-messianic branch of religion under James the Just in Jerusalem.

  • @clockworkgnome
    @clockworkgnome 3 місяці тому +24

    In my Russo-American Eastern Orthodox catechism we used the Didache, The Shepherd of Hermas as well as _some_ Origen, and Tertullian (but it was made very clear that the latter two were, for the most part, heretics).
    I’m not a Christian anymore but learning about these texts inspired a love of Religious Studies and Early Christian Literature.

  • @TirraOmilade
    @TirraOmilade 12 днів тому

    Seeing the ankh on your wall gives me great joy!

  • @JaimeNyx15
    @JaimeNyx15 3 місяці тому +53

    I'm curious what the difference was between magic and sorcery to the writers of the Didache. I'll need to look at how those are being translated, probably.
    UPDATE: the original Greek uses μαγεύσεις and φαρμακεύσεις, or roughly "mageia" and "pharmakeia". Those are pretty culturally specific terms, and Andrew has talked about them in previous videos, but my impression is the former is more to do with enchantments and glamour, while the latter is more about potions, drugs, etc

    • @DanzigDevilock
      @DanzigDevilock 3 місяці тому +1

      Probably the same definition we use today. It was not that long ago.

    • @benjaminbrockway5998
      @benjaminbrockway5998 3 місяці тому +16

      ​@@DanzigDevilock1800 years is a pretty long time.

    • @JaimeNyx15
      @JaimeNyx15 3 місяці тому +15

      @@benjaminbrockway5998 Maybe they've been around a while. Vampire detected?

    • @generallyuninterested4956
      @generallyuninterested4956 3 місяці тому +2

      It's a translation. It's probably not 100% able to translate to modern English.

    • @admiralmurat2777
      @admiralmurat2777 3 місяці тому

      I do know that there is substantial evidence that the term "pharmakeia" is associated directly with infanticide, which was a religious ritual done by priestesses in the Roman Empire. In fact, abortion was just as prolific in the Roman Empire per capita at specific periods as it is now in the USA. Christianity has always been anti-abortion, yet it was also a major institution for rescuing abandoned babies and essentially adopting just about anyone that others didn't desire.

  • @Caldwell2020
    @Caldwell2020 3 місяці тому +1

    Really well put together!

  • @juliusnovachrono4370
    @juliusnovachrono4370 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm watching this whilst having dinner. Great content, Andrew.

  • @carolynsilvers9999
    @carolynsilvers9999 3 місяці тому +18

    Sounds like there was an issue with bums passing as prophets to get a free ride… they are still around begging for money on TV

    • @ANDROLOMA
      @ANDROLOMA 3 місяці тому

      Jack Van Impe for example, until his demise.

  • @AdventureDude2000
    @AdventureDude2000 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you, Dr. Henry!

  • @ccreel64
    @ccreel64 3 місяці тому +12

    Thank you for this video. I was raised southern baptist and church history was rarely discussed, much less studied, in the 70s. I’d not heard of the didache until now.

    • @rameybutler-hm7nx
      @rameybutler-hm7nx 2 місяці тому

      Go to a orthodox catholic church.

    • @zenverak
      @zenverak 14 днів тому +1

      My dad was a southern Baptist preacher but very non dogmatic. He went to seminary and actually learned stuff that most pastors pass over. I miss our conversations we used to have before going to church, those were the best

  • @davieboy3814
    @davieboy3814 2 місяці тому +1

    This is a fascinating window into the early church.

  • @VoidHalo
    @VoidHalo 3 місяці тому +6

    I would love it if you did a video about the Nag Hamadi Library of Gnostic Gospels. Though, some of the books would almost need their own video.

    • @TurtleMarcus
      @TurtleMarcus 3 місяці тому +4

      The channel Esoterica, with Dr. Justin Sledge, has done lots of videos on the specific books of the Nag Hammadi Library (both their histories and theologies), presented in a clear scholarly style. Worth checking out.

  • @giordy9013
    @giordy9013 3 місяці тому +1

    Was looking for a didache video some days ago, glad you did this, the non canonical bibliography is just enormous and interesting

  • @pnwmeditations
    @pnwmeditations 3 місяці тому +2

    This is fascinating! Somehow I've never heard of this document

  • @BillHimmel
    @BillHimmel 3 місяці тому +52

    I'm an atheist, and I really enjoy these vids explaining the history of human belief!

    • @EarnestApostate
      @EarnestApostate 3 місяці тому +3

      Definitely one of my favorites as well

    • @jd3jefferson556
      @jd3jefferson556 3 місяці тому +1

      Shocking how little the Catholic Church has changed since the first century

    • @lianagheorma92
      @lianagheorma92 3 місяці тому +3

      Same :)

    • @BillHimmel
      @BillHimmel 3 місяці тому

      @@EarnestApostate :-)

    • @BillHimmel
      @BillHimmel 3 місяці тому

      @@lianagheorma92 :-)

  • @mastertoenail11
    @mastertoenail11 3 місяці тому +1

    Was just thinking I needed a good video on this thing, which I learned about a few days ago.

  • @Artofdanieljoseph
    @Artofdanieljoseph 3 місяці тому +1

    Absolutely fascinating thank you for your videos 🙏🏻

  • @Miroslaw-rs8ip
    @Miroslaw-rs8ip 3 місяці тому +1

    Good review, thanks for your video I appreciate it.

  • @shot_out_n_tired
    @shot_out_n_tired 3 місяці тому +7

    I’ve read and still reference The Didache when doing Bible lessons with my family. It’s a useful glimpse into the way some of the earliest Christians approached living in the faith. I make sure when reading from it, or any other text that’s not from Scripture, that I explain to my children that these texts are non canonical but can be useful tools to help us understand and live our faith.

    • @CorePathway
      @CorePathway 2 місяці тому

      Proof that the Bible is a document of any by Man. “God” has nothing to do with it.

  • @fanman8102
    @fanman8102 3 місяці тому

    I recently started watching your videos and am really enjoying them. New subscriber.
    I was taught the reason this book didn’t make into the New Testament was because no one could prove who the author was. All the books in the New Testament were overwhelmingly agreed upon as originating from one of the original twelve or someone closely related to the original twelve, ie Luke and Paul. The agreed upon guidelines set by the council were pretty tight.

  • @fletcherjackson8594
    @fletcherjackson8594 3 місяці тому +11

    You keep me going as i apply to religious studies MA programs ❤️❤️❤️

    • @thegenderfluidthing8660
      @thegenderfluidthing8660 3 місяці тому

      Wish I was you right now, but happy right now in my archaeology of the ancient Mediterranean program! Oh religious studies, some day I will come for you.

  • @Herbit-k4j
    @Herbit-k4j 3 місяці тому +49

    Your ritual was removed due to a violation of our Community Guidelines.

  • @mikeambs
    @mikeambs 3 місяці тому +2

    This was fascinating 👏

  • @derekbaker5016
    @derekbaker5016 3 місяці тому +2

    Two RFB vids in one week? Hell yeah

  • @brettkeeler8822
    @brettkeeler8822 3 місяці тому +2

    Guilty as charged: I enjoyed this video on my lunch break. Thanks for the summary.😉

  • @json_js.1
    @json_js.1 3 місяці тому

    Looking forward to the AMA!

  • @AllanTidgwell
    @AllanTidgwell 2 місяці тому +3

    It should be noted that hypocrite at the time this was written didn't mean what it means today
    The word hypocrite meant a performer. So any time you see this in the text it should be read as "a person who is performative in their actions"
    This is made explicit throughout Matthew 6. It's basically the original "don't virtue signal"
    Unfortunately people use the word differently now and the colloquial usage is conflated by those who preach the words without actually having understood what they mean... making such people precisely who the passages are criticizing. The irony is palpable

    • @s.h.6858
      @s.h.6858 Місяць тому

      I just asked if hypocrite had a different meaning because the examples did match what hypocrite means today.

  • @nikok410
    @nikok410 3 місяці тому +39

    These forgotten historic books are so interesting, great video! btw at 10:11 you say "Northwest Africa", did you mean Northeast since you mentioned Coptic and Ethiopia?

  • @vix8426
    @vix8426 3 місяці тому +2

    i’m actually watching while eating dinner but thank you for considering

  • @jonunciate7018
    @jonunciate7018 3 місяці тому +90

    The way of death: Don't advocate for the wealthy.
    That's all you need to know about why this text isn't cannon.😂

    • @shhhhhg
      @shhhhhg 3 місяці тому +10

      Read Matthew 18:3….
      Reevaluate your life choices, i can smell your bias against christians from 10 miles away

    • @sj6404
      @sj6404 3 місяці тому +19

      @@shhhhhg Bias against non-biblical "big church" is hardly anti-Christian bias. There was a big movement in that direction a half millenia ago, something called like the Reformation? You might want to check it out.

    • @shhhhhg
      @shhhhhg 3 місяці тому +3

      @@sj6404
      Non-biblical “big church”
      what do you even mean?

    • @jonunciate7018
      @jonunciate7018 3 місяці тому +17

      @shhhhhg I was actually referencing the conservative Christian tendencies to advocate for people like Trump, ignoring some pretty obvious stuff to push their political agenda... so my political bias and burnout on their blatant hypocrisy is showing, I guess?
      Also Matthew 18:3? You could have easily countered with Matthew 19:24 or 1 Timothy 6:10 or even the story surrounding Matthew 21:12. And many others besides that. Come on man!

    • @shhhhhg
      @shhhhhg 3 місяці тому

      @@jonunciate7018
      You know they say the same things about Kamala supporters right? Both sides have to stop acting like the opposite are the devil incarnate.
      These are images of God, they don’t “overlook” anything more than you overlook them. They are picking what they think is best, like you are picking what you think is best

  • @andrewsuryali8540
    @andrewsuryali8540 3 місяці тому +11

    Remember kids, ALWAYS kick out your apostles on the third day!

  • @joncohen6059
    @joncohen6059 3 місяці тому +22

    How do I reconcile the two facts that the didache 4:11 calls for slaves to be obedient to their masters, and that some of the earliest Christians were slaves because it was empowering to them, in comparison to the Roman state religion?

    • @bizarrealtispinax2747
      @bizarrealtispinax2747 3 місяці тому +20

      It's answered in the epistles of Paul, where he told fellow Christians to never mistreat a slave but to love them and have them be part of their family. During that time, it was common to have servants (their conception of slaves was similar to our conception of workers like domestic or field workers), but as time went on, due to the equal treatment, slavery lost its power as a whole.
      Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's how I understand it.

    • @tangosmurfen2376
      @tangosmurfen2376 3 місяці тому +10

      The early Christians were hated by the Romans for their great evil which referred to the Christians considered slaves to be humans.
      Even worse: That God loved slaves.
      The pagans believed that slaves were slaves because the gods hated them. If slaves were humans loved by a God you could not justify cruelty and injustice done to slaves. That was what the pagans found evil.

    • @egonomics352
      @egonomics352 3 місяці тому +8

      Ernst Bloch addresses this. There is the Bible of the ruling class and the Bible of the oppressed fused into one book. There is an underground anti-theocratic movement in the Bible, however, it is obscured, consciously or unconsciously.

    • @ironickrempt
      @ironickrempt 3 місяці тому +12

      @@tangosmurfen2376 The persecution of those outside pan-Mediterranean Hellenism was a bit more simple than that. The power of the state was justified through claims to divine ancestry, and the monotheistic faiths rejected those divinities. That's why there was an explosion of art with wealthy Roman officials depicting themselves as descendants of the apostles as soon as Christianity became the state religion.

    • @miguelatkinson
      @miguelatkinson 3 місяці тому +10

      ​@@bizarrealtispinax2747please stop trying to rewash what slaves to these people because domestic workers are not the same as slaves the difference being that one is payed one isn't owned as property one has constitutional rights slaves can be both domestic workers and more

  • @tuanphamanh4721
    @tuanphamanh4721 3 місяці тому +9

    Thank you for the excellent videos! Coming in from Vietnam.

  • @lareno04
    @lareno04 3 місяці тому

    Great video! Thanks! 😊

  • @randaabdulla9468
    @randaabdulla9468 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much, a religious studies student ❤

  • @martian9035
    @martian9035 3 місяці тому +5

    I was in fact on my lunch break while watching this video

  • @Unknown17
    @Unknown17 2 місяці тому

    THANK YOU. Very helpful.

  • @jasonmorello1374
    @jasonmorello1374 3 місяці тому +1

    one thing to note, that version from the 1100s in latin mentions a sunday service, which would be about the only direct case of that being mentioned in scripture, but due to the copy by hand, the sunday change many talk about may have changed the text from the clergy. Most of the groups that would have used it were former jewish ones in the first century, so easily would have only said "sabbath", but the days of week in such a document would have made clear if this changed. For this, it seems to me that though a complete text, this latter piece has been copied by those in the clergy, so may have made the change as naturally as breathing, not because they wanted to make change, but because it needed to line up with what they did know.

  • @lionflame21
    @lionflame21 3 місяці тому +2

    Most likely why it did not make the cut was it is seen more of like the cathecism documents that we have now than scriptural.

  • @vitorbarbosa8598
    @vitorbarbosa8598 3 місяці тому +1

    5:58 it's interesting that in Portuguese, we say it exactly as in the Didache version!

  • @elizabethhannah4332
    @elizabethhannah4332 3 місяці тому +2

    How’d you know I’d be watching this on my lunch break

  • @nulno
    @nulno 2 місяці тому +1

    Beautiful 🎉we love father God One and Father Christ

  • @TheImmortalArt
    @TheImmortalArt 3 місяці тому +2

    Very cool video. Thank you.
    Question: will you ever cover the medieval shismatic churches and their beliefs? Cathars, Patarens, Bosnian Church, Bogomils?

    • @TurtleMarcus
      @TurtleMarcus 3 місяці тому

      The channel Esoterica, with Dr. Justin Sledge, have excellent videos on the Cathars and other heretical (mostly Gnostic) groups, in much the same style as this. Worth checking out.

  • @mihail6446
    @mihail6446 3 місяці тому

    I was having dinner..in Australia watching this video. Great video. I'm Christian I like the instructions in how to worship behave etc on the didache. Wonder if they'll cannoooze this if more evidence arizes. ove this.

  • @Αστερίων13
    @Αστερίων13 3 місяці тому +2

    Sweet! We just talked about this at universiry :)

  • @swansonnnn
    @swansonnnn 3 місяці тому +2

    Watching while washing dishes

  • @CaribouDataScience
    @CaribouDataScience 3 місяці тому +2

    Jesus also talks about two ways, a narrow gate and a wide gate.

  • @robbalink
    @robbalink 15 днів тому

    Bravo !🎉

  • @oliveblake8154
    @oliveblake8154 3 місяці тому +4

    I literally just finished listening to The Didache (audiobook version). Then I come to UA-cam and see this video. Coincidence? 👀

  • @johnrococo982
    @johnrococo982 2 місяці тому +1

    American Non denominational “Churchs” need to read this.

  • @U_N_Owen
    @U_N_Owen 3 місяці тому

    Even that far back you can see the teachings of the person who founds a new school discarded the instant they’re gone and replaced with the same old superstition, ritual baloney, strict liturgical calendars, top-down authority, and “we’re the special chosen ones and everyone else is subhuman.” Man, it was really scary having to meditate and love everybody for a few years there… thank goodness he’s gone and we can go back to bickering about which diets and fasts make you holy, what kind of nether-region habits make God angry, and what kind of water bath magicks you into being a good person.

  • @rafamaszkowski6796
    @rafamaszkowski6796 Місяць тому +1

    One of the most interesting features od Didache is the order of the eucharist. It is not Pauline break-wine but wine-bread, as in Jewish Sabbath or festival meals. The instruction refers to both David and Jesus as children (servants?) of God, not giving Jesus any higher status and not mentioning Jesus blood and body. One may suspect the Jerusalem community style in this.

  • @nilssturman5258
    @nilssturman5258 3 місяці тому +10

    Interesting! Two things which blows my mind right now are that a) abortion is mentioned though it is entirely undefined and b) homosexuality is not.

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 3 місяці тому +2

      Its especially interesting because this wasn't included, but the current bible does contain instructions on performing an abortion (or at least greatly increase the chance of miscarriage)

    • @stephenmissick8633
      @stephenmissick8633 3 місяці тому

      Wrong, it does codemn homosexuality, read the text, specifically pederasty

    • @7cuchulain
      @7cuchulain 3 місяці тому +3

      pederasty is prohibited in the didache

    • @letsburn00
      @letsburn00 3 місяці тому

      @@7cuchulain surprisingly woke for a biblical document then.

    • @Urfavigbo
      @Urfavigbo 3 місяці тому

      Pretty sure it's instruction on abortion is quite clear.

  • @Jimbobmoonshiner
    @Jimbobmoonshiner 3 місяці тому +3

    Could you recommend a good book on early Christianity that is well-founded scholarship?

    • @ANDROLOMA
      @ANDROLOMA 3 місяці тому +2

      I recommend Bart Ehrman, vigorously. "Religion For Breakfast" has had Dr. Ehrman on his show at least once before. Dr. Ehrman's books have helped teach me, and I love learning the truth behind such fictional fabrications as Christianity.

  • @raya.pawley3563
    @raya.pawley3563 26 днів тому

    Thank you

  • @sdgsuperstar
    @sdgsuperstar 2 місяці тому

    Today, the Didache remains a valuable window into early Christian practices and beliefs, offering insights into how the earliest communities interpreted and practiced Jesus’s teachings.

  • @konaken1035
    @konaken1035 2 місяці тому

    Sabbath Shalom

  • @torjusekkje6264
    @torjusekkje6264 Місяць тому

    The end can come at any moment for you and me personally.

  • @frankwitte1022
    @frankwitte1022 3 місяці тому +1

    Great video and so interesting! Perhaps you have already covered it, or perhaps you consider it unsuitable for your channel ... but I would be very curious to hear your take on the "Heliand".

  • @liamferguson4145
    @liamferguson4145 3 місяці тому +9

    Who up breaking their fast rn

    • @makeytgreatagain6256
      @makeytgreatagain6256 3 місяці тому

      Orthodox still continue the fasts. I fast every Friday and Wednesday our church hasn’t changed since these times I’m glad to know

  • @GeraldM_inNC
    @GeraldM_inNC 3 місяці тому +1

    The question of why books did or didn't get accepted into the canon can't be addressed without understanding that the books that were used by Christians of Jewish ancestry were little known by the Gentile churches. The Gentiles churches grew slowly but steadily, even during persecutions; the Jewish-Christian churches never had much of a congregation and eventually the congregations declined. After the first century here was little contact between Gentile churches and Jewish-Christians, and consequently the Gentiles were unfamiliar with the Jewish-Christian writings. It is not surprising that some Jewish-Christian texts of early date did not make it into the canon; rather, it is surprising that any of them made it in. James and Jude just barely made it in; the Gospel of the Hebrews did not.
    Scholarship on the Jewish-Christian churches is in its infancy, and much is still unresolved or highly controversial. I am among those who believe that the Gospel of the Hebrews was the earliest gospel, that canonical Matthew is a revision and translation of it for use by the Gentile churches, and that the heretical Gospel of the Ebionites, a.k.a. the Gospel of the Hebrews, was a much later work. These opinions are super-controversial.

  • @tylerjornov
    @tylerjornov 3 місяці тому

    I find it interesting that it wasn’t included in part due to its nature as a more instructional text. Given how modern Christians tend to use the canonical scriptures it would make more sense to flip that rationale around.

  • @Miaphysite3
    @Miaphysite3 3 місяці тому +5

    It is part of our 81 canonical books.

    • @gregoryfenn1462
      @gregoryfenn1462 3 місяці тому

      Who's?

    • @Miaphysite3
      @Miaphysite3 3 місяці тому +1

      @@gregoryfenn1462 the Ge’ez rite of the Oriental Orthodoxy (Eritrean and Ethiopian Churches).

    • @danfsteeple
      @danfsteeple 3 місяці тому

      @@gregoryfenn1462 Monophysites

    • @randallpayne9320
      @randallpayne9320 3 місяці тому

      Do you recommend an English version of this? Been looking for a reliable one

    • @Akhgy
      @Akhgy 3 місяці тому +1

      @@randallpayne9320there is No official Translation of The Language by the Church.
      - all others shouldn’t be considered reliable, the Church is not in no hurry, so it may not be in your life time.

  • @the-chillian
    @the-chillian 20 днів тому

    The Pharisee in Luke 18 also boasts of fasting twice a week.
    Even today, the strictly observant in Eastern Christianity will fast on Wednesdays and Fridays.
    Naive acceptance of traveling charismatic types was enough of a problem in early Christianity that the satirist Lucian of Samosata was already mocking it in his _Passing of Peregrinus._ So this kind of advice was badly needed at the time.

  • @jeffking4176
    @jeffking4176 15 днів тому

    Not breakfast, or lunch, but supper.😁
    Definitely an interesting video.

  • @Snommelp
    @Snommelp 3 місяці тому

    What's interesting to me is that, as you were reading samples from the text, it seemed as though every modern Christian would be able to find something about which they would say "this is clearly and obviously direct from God" and something else about which they would say "this is clearly and obviously heretical"

  • @wiaamhaddad8550
    @wiaamhaddad8550 3 місяці тому

    Super! Would like to know more on the development of liturgical traditions

    • @richlopez5896
      @richlopez5896 3 місяці тому

      The Catholic Church's liturgical traditions developed in the apostolic age. I'm a Byzantine Catholic and we use leavened bread to represent the Risen Christ. The Roman Rite uses unleavened bread to show He is the manna from heaven. Pouring became the primary form of baptizing in the Roman Rite and most Eastern Catholic Rites primarily use immersion. Making the Sign of the Cross is done two different ways within the Church. Things like liturgical songs and clerical dress would also develop over time. Every Rite of the Catholic Church shares the same faith and 7 holy sacraments. We simply express our Catholic faith in our own ways.

  • @Sylkis89
    @Sylkis89 3 місяці тому +1

    4:15 - has this text several versions from different time periods? if it's old and such an early Cristianity, how come there's the Holy Trinity before the Council of Nicea that was as late as in 4th Century?

    • @richlopez5896
      @richlopez5896 3 місяці тому

      The Ecumenical Council of Nicea I. in 325 was not about the Trinity.
      The Didache
      “After the foregoing instructions, baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living [running] water. . . . If you have neither, pour water three times on the head, in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” (Didache 7:1 [A.D. 70]
      St. Theophilus of Antioch
      “It is the attribute of God, of the most high and almighty and of the living God, not only to be everywhere, but also to see and hear all; for he can in no way be contained in a place. . . . The three days before the luminaries were created are types of the Trinity: God, his Word, and his Wisdom” (To Autolycus 2:15 [A.D. 181]
      Tertullian of Carthage
      “And at the same time the mystery of the oikonomia is safeguarded, for the unity is distributed in a Trinity. Placed in order, the three are the Father, Son, and Spirit. They are three, however, not in condition, but in degree; not in being, but in form; not in power, but in kind; of one being, however, and one condition and one power, because he is one God of whom degrees and forms and kinds are taken into account in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” (Against Praxeas [A.D. 216]
      Origen
      “For it is the Trinity alone which exceeds every sense in which not only temporal but even eternal may be understood. It is all other things, indeed, which are outside the Trinity, which are to be measured by time and ages” (The Fundamental Doctrines) [A.D. 225]
      Pope Dionysius
      “Next, then, I may properly turn to those who divide and cut apart and destroy the most sacred proclamation of the Church of God, making of it [the Trinity], as it were, three powers, distinct substances, and three godheads. . . . [Some heretics] proclaim that there are in some way three gods, when they divide the sacred unity into three substances foreign to each other and completely separate” (Letter to Dionysius of Alexandria 1 [A.D. 262]
      St. Gregory the Wonderworker
      “There is one God. . . . There is a perfect Trinity, in glory and eternity and sovereignty, neither divided nor estranged. Wherefore there is nothing either created or in servitude in the Trinity; nor anything superinduced, as if at some former period it was non-existent, and at some later period it was introduced. And thus neither was the Son ever wanting to the Father, nor the Spirit to the Son; but without variation and without change, the same Trinity abides ever” (Declaration of Faith [A.D. 265]

  • @YoelFievelBenAvram
    @YoelFievelBenAvram 3 місяці тому

    Monday and Thursday fasting is not only present in the mishnaic tradition. The rambam codifies this pattern of fasting during droughts in the mishneh torah circa 1180 CE.

  • @state_song_xprt
    @state_song_xprt 3 місяці тому +3

    Can you recommend a good online translation of the Didache?

  • @christianschulz1443
    @christianschulz1443 3 місяці тому +1

    The conflict between travelling and settled church authorities is very interisting to me. If you look at the apostels it seems clear they established some kind of tradition for traveling christian/church actors, while with the spread of christianity settled authorities probably tried to consolidate their power. For me this text is a curious piece of ecidence for such a conflict and im left wo wonder how the christian church might have turned out if the more traveling tradition won in the end.

  • @aemiliadelroba4022
    @aemiliadelroba4022 3 місяці тому +1

    This is a small manual on how to b a good Christian.
    also some guidelines on building the church and hierarchy in new Christian faith growing ,
    😊

  • @ferretyluv
    @ferretyluv 3 місяці тому +2

    What’s the difference between the Didache and the catechism?