Is the German Beer Purity Law Hurting German Beer?

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  • @Eseckiels
    @Eseckiels Місяць тому +16

    An American calling out the German Reinheitsgebot?
    Wild times.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому +1

      More of just questioning if still making brewers abide by it is necessary 500 years later. I wonder what else these amazing German brewers could do without the constraints. Thanks for watching!

    • @tomlobos2871
      @tomlobos2871 Місяць тому

      @@MYTravelBF asking to ditch reinheitsgebot is like asking americans to drop 2nd amendment.
      but its more like a quality label than actual law. because of that "guideline" we still have brewerys older than the usa is. so if there is something we are not short of in germany, it's proud beer brewers and variations in beer recipes. beer drinkers want it that way, partly because of tradition, party because of higher demands in food quality generally speaking. there are plenty of import beers that dont sell very well, can have that at the pricy kiosk. if wanting something beyond or go for a beer mixture drink.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому +1

      @@tomlobos2871 I'd love for the US to drop the 2nd amendment😅 But I understand what you're saying. If you think of it as a quality label and stamp of approval it makes sense because Germany has some of the best beers of any country in the world, even without extra ingredients. Plus, like you said, the customer would ultimately decide, and it seems like the imports that don't abide by the Reinheistgebot don't do as well anyways.

  • @ChristianHawkins123
    @ChristianHawkins123 Місяць тому +12

    You don't quite understand the laws here. What you can call beer and what not is not ruled by the purity law, but the Bierverordnung (BierV).
    You are also not limited to what you can brew, but you are limited to what you legally can call beer. You can call anything else a "brew".
    Edit: Your video is full of misconceptions. If you open a beer garden, you enter a partnership with a brewery (if it is not directly ran by that brewery). And this is why you only have one brand here. It is not the Reinheitsgebot holding anyone back.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому +1

      I understand the Reinheistgebot saying what legally can be called a beer. That's one of the things I'm questioning and whether still abiding by that law is holding back German beer innovation.
      As for the biergarten having one brand of beer, I never said it was because of the Reinheistgebot, just mentioning it for people traveling to Germany and how there are fewer options available at them potentially because of the law limiting beer styles. Thanks for watching!

    • @ChristianHawkins123
      @ChristianHawkins123 Місяць тому +3

      @@MYTravelBF No. It is not the Reinheitsgebot what dictates what you can call beer. It is the Bierverordnung.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      @@ChristianHawkins123 Thanks for the clarification

    • @richymoto
      @richymoto Місяць тому +2

      @@ChristianHawkins123 And to go even further and make it more German ... the "Bierverordnung" says what you are allowed to call Bier. But it does not specify anything about the process or the ingredients. Instead of that, the Bierverordnung relates to another law with the fine name "Verordnung zur Durchführung des Vorläufigen Biergesetzes" ;-) There you can find all the details about hops, malt, etc. and all the other fineprint.

  • @karl42-73
    @karl42-73 Місяць тому +2

    It's a little bit like telling an Italian pizza chef he is limited in his craft because ananas is "not allowed" to be put on pizza 😆
    If 3 ingredients are enough to brew the perfect drink, nothing is missing 😀

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому +1

      I will definitely agree that German beers are some of the best in the world with just the basic ingredients🍻 Thanks for watching!

  • @douglasmagowan2709
    @douglasmagowan2709 Місяць тому

    Does anything prevent a brewer from making a non-compliant brew and giving it a different name?

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      I don't think so, but chances are it wouldn't sell as well without the name 'beer' attached to it. That's where maybe having it called beer but specifically calling out added ingredients lets the customer decide. Then again, German beer is amazing too🍻

    • @richymoto
      @richymoto Місяць тому

      You can brew whatever you want and call it a brew or whatever name you like. But if you want to call it beer, you are bound to a set of rules, including the ingredients. It is a little strange, because you can sell i.e. Mexican beer like Corona as beer in Germany. The rule is quite simple: if it's called beer, where it comes from, you also can call it beer in Germany. But you would not be allowed to produce it in Germany in the same way and call it beer. That's one of the reasons, why German brewers hold up the Reinheitsgebot ... a way to make them distinct from others.

  • @performingartist
    @performingartist Місяць тому

    I will just say I'm really glad I only live 10 km from the French border and have easy access to all the belgian beers I can not find in any local grocery store or even in the drink stores. German beer is good, but such a boringly narrow slice of the whole beer world and no one seems to carry anything but German brands

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      That's great you have such a massive beer selection so close! Maybe the German stores only carry German beer because that's truly what the customer wants, which I guess is a big question in the video. It's possible that by creating new beers outside of the Reinheistgebot that are fantastic, they just might not even sell well. Thanks for watching!

  • @miskatonic6210
    @miskatonic6210 Місяць тому +8

    The problem with german beer is...everybody without any knowledge can talk about it to get cheap clicks.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching! I’m curious what the large issue you had with the video was? Most German beers are great!

  • @Steeler-wg5zo
    @Steeler-wg5zo Місяць тому +1

    In the past, signs were put up in Bavarian towns telling people not to piss in the river on Thursday, for example, because then brewing water would be drawn...LOL -

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thankfully they don't have to do that anymore!😅

  • @manu23325
    @manu23325 Місяць тому +6

    As a German I think it’s hilarious how there’s beers from hundreds of different breweries in a supermarket and Germans have their favourites and discuss the difference, when for me they all taste the same😂 and for saying that out loud I’d get killed here in Bavaria

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Definitely don't say that out loud in Bavaria 😅 We do love German beers, and admittedly still have plenty more to explore, but many do taste the same. I think a blind taste test might be in order to see if we can pick up on any noticeable differences. Thanks for watching!

    • @philippbecker2799
      @philippbecker2799 Місяць тому

      You clearly don’t know what you are talking about…as Bavarian I can assure you, that you can taste differences in every beer

  • @TravelAddictGuy
    @TravelAddictGuy Місяць тому +1

    German beer is amazing. Prost! 🍻

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      It's some of the best beer in the world!🍻

  • @iQKyyR3K
    @iQKyyR3K Місяць тому

    Of course a Biergarten only has limited choices...
    They were created when people dug caves into hills to store stuff in the cool during summer, at some point someone put up a few beer benches, started selling their beer and Brotzeit.
    That's how the Biergarten was created.
    Fun fact: BY LAW, you're allowed to bring your own food to a Biergarten, at least in Bavaria.
    There should be a clearly different name for non-Reinheitsgebot beers.
    Something like Vergorenes Malzgetränk, nach Art ...
    I'm all for it, Kriek from Belgium is brilliant, but the Reinheitsgebot stays.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thanks for the history on biergartens. Very interesting! I think beers that don't follow the Reinheitsgebot should just be clearly labeled with what is in them so the customer knows and can make an informed decision. However, it's still beer. Thanks for watching too!

  • @McGhinch
    @McGhinch Місяць тому +1

    There is one problem: Once you open it up to use other ingredients, beers will soon enough have as ingredients the four vital for life vitamins B, A, S, and F.
    It might only affect existing breweries, but the big ones will jump on the wagon and with big money just make worse beer that also has a large portion of profitin as a very important ingredient.
    Good beer only takes a couple of ingredients. Those listed in the Reinheitsgebot in the best available quality and the knowledge of a good brewer. I will not drink more beer when there are more choices. I don't need 17 choices of beer when I go to a pub. I choose the pub or Biergarten that has the beer or company I want at that time.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Because German brewing is so outstanding, I'd be very curious as to what else they could make outside of the Reinheistgebot if they could.
      As far as picking a place to drink, you're right. I don't need 17 choices of beer. That's just more common in the US than in Germany, so it can be a surprise to many travelers. Thanks for watching!

  • @Sirk1966
    @Sirk1966 Місяць тому

    The purity law it what makes Germany beer German beer, if you want different flavors, like fruit, or other spices, go to Belgium or a local craft brewery.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      That's true, and German beer is fantastic! I just wonder what they could do with ever more flexibility...

  • @brianh2447
    @brianh2447 Місяць тому

    Onkel Ollis! my favorite Kiosk in Hannover!

  • @dariocavegn4052
    @dariocavegn4052 Місяць тому +3

    Answering the title of the video: No. And I think the notion is utterly absurd that a bunch of weekend brewers are supposedly able to outdo brewers that continue a tradition with literally centuries of experience. To paraphrase James May: "There's a reason why we don't use craft cameras." This entire debate is idiotic.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому +2

      It's not necessarily about outdoing traditional brewers in Germany, but allowing for more innovation to happen alongside them. Plus, they would be able to participate too. The traditional German beers are phenomenal as they are and can't be beat🍻

    • @benlzicar7628
      @benlzicar7628 Місяць тому

      The video never claimed "weekend brewers outdo German brewers", you're just putting words in the creators mouth. The point the video is trying to make is strict regulations like what Germany has stifles variety and innovation in the beer scene. God forbid I visit a beer garden with friends in Munich that only serves Paulaner and I want to have a pilsner or a something like a porter, which I may remind you was actually brewed in East Germany up until the reunification of 1990 when it became regulated and more or less non-existent. It's more ironic when you consider porters are the oldest type of beer and predate everything that's currently allowed under Germans regulations. So if you're going to talk about "tradition" and historic precedence then you can't ignore the porter which some German king arbitrarily decided to outlaw the brewing of some 500 years ago.

  • @Pentix123
    @Pentix123 Місяць тому

    Das deutsche Reinheitsgebot ist eine wichtige Tradition und ein Alleinstellungsmerkmal, es sollte definitiv nicht abgeschafft werden.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      It's certainly a unique tradition, but any brewer in the world can follow it. It's not limited to Germany, which makes me think that Germany's outstanding beer scene could thrive even more if brewers had more room to experiment. I don't think anyone could beat the traditional German beers though🍻

    • @Pentix123
      @Pentix123 Місяць тому

      @@MYTravelBF In the end you can’t forget that big business people might get greedy, they might switch up the recipes in some ways to make them cheaper to brew, which might destroy the flavor.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому +1

      @@Pentix123 True, which comes full circle to why the Reinheistgebot was first implemented😅

  • @Tet-Offensive1968
    @Tet-Offensive1968 Місяць тому

    Hi My Travel BF, thanks for the info. on German beer

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      We're glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks for watching!

  • @dschihadinio
    @dschihadinio Місяць тому +3

    As a German beer lover; Most German Beer is rat piss, especialy the big "tv-brands". But there are some small world class brewerys (try Störtebeker).

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thank you for the recommendation! Do you have any others?

    • @jockardl
      @jockardl Місяць тому

      Ich glaube du bist der erste deutsche der die Bezeichnung "Rattenpisse" ins Englische übersetzt hat haha

    • @molli051
      @molli051 Місяць тому

      Rothaus Pils and quatiermeister are also good beers, the second is hard to obtain outside of berlin because it's quite local. Also check out german craft beers from BRLO, Brewdog, Berlin berg brauerei and sudden death brewing. They all do a great job but can get quite expensive .

    • @jaich6258
      @jaich6258 Місяць тому

      Störtebecker??? Have you lost your mind? The only good one they have is the weizen.
      If you want to Drink good Beer try a „helles“

  • @Steeler-wg5zo
    @Steeler-wg5zo Місяць тому +2

    The purity law should definitely be maintained. In other countries, the alcohol content of ~ 7-8% or more is exaggerated to such an extent because it is much more expensive there than in Germany. (so that you can 'shoot yourself out of the world' more quickly, or not drink so much in terms of quantity?)
    And what good is a beer that gives me such a hammering from one second to the next and makes me wake up the next day with a hangover headache? (e.g. STELLA ARTOIS) You always have to be able to recognize when it's getting 'too much' and give yourself a STOP. You can actually tell with almost every beer brewed in Germany. I explicitly say 'almost'!

    • @lazymass
      @lazymass Місяць тому

      What the hell are you even saying? If you don't like strong beer styles, because you are unable to stop yourself or simply drink smaller portions, the don't drink it, but don't fucking even try to tell others what to do... Your purity law is simply stupid shit.

    • @lazymass
      @lazymass Місяць тому +1

      What a enormous amount of BS in one single comment...

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      You can easily make beers that abide by the German beer purity law with 7-8% alcohol or more. German beers are very good though! Thanks for watching!

    • @Steeler-wg5zo
      @Steeler-wg5zo Місяць тому

      @@lazymass what an enormous amount of BS in only 10 words.

  • @Sharpless2
    @Sharpless2 Місяць тому

    Most people in this country are so close minded and dense about what is beer and what isnt, its almost sad cringe. It gets to a point where a group of 45+ year olds verbally go down and make fun about others who drink a beer said group doesnt drink. The hypocrisy is getting out of hand.
    But yes, i fully agree about the Reinheitsgebot and that its limiting our beer heavily. I mean, theres also marketing involved ("dont fix a running system") but when every other Bottle or Krug/Maß of beer tastes the same, something isnt right. For the past 8 months or so, i noticed that most brands of beer i drink have become very sour and bitter. Porter, Guinness Draught Stout and Bayreuther stayed the same, while others like Veltins, Pülleken (first beer Veltins ever made) and Chiemseer have become undrinkable. Its like someone took a whiff and said: "yeah, lets add some quinine to this".

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      That's really interesting on how you've noticed the change in that taste of the same beers! I wonder if others feel the same🤔 It's something I'll have to keep an eye on...It would be fascinating to actually do a blind taste test of different German Helles just to see if you can taste any noticeable differences. Thanks for watching!

  • @arnodobler1096
    @arnodobler1096 Місяць тому +2

    Of course, Belgian beers would also be allowed to be brewed in Germany, it just wouldn't be allowed to be called Bier, like craft beer (about 40 breweries in Germany, and more mini). Beer prices in supermarkets 0,60 € + for 0,5l can
    Please pls Americans do not "versau" our beer.
    Do it the way the locals do it!
    Beer gardens usually belong to the breweries themselves. Innkeepers usually have beer contracts with a brewery, which then invests.
    I also appreciate that there are local beers (wines), if everything is the same everywhere, I don't need to go anywhere, do I? That's the great thing about Germany / Europe, and the reason to vacation in your own country. You won't find Altbier in Cologne.
    Incidentally, Tettnang is the hop town of the world, exported for the best beers in the world, near Lake Constance (where i live).
    Dry hopping is not really forbidden, but it reminds me of the pieces of cork that are put into wine to "imitate" (Beschiss fake) barrique ageing. Popular with many South African, Australian and Californian wines.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for watching and sharing more info! We still have to explore many beer specific regions in Germany like Altbier in Düsseldorf or Kölsch in Cologne. Are there any others you’d recommend?

    • @arnodobler1096
      @arnodobler1096 Місяць тому +1

      @@MYTravelBF A few years ago I saw a documentary about a Hefeweizen brewer who only delivered his beer within a radius of 5 km. In Berlin, the Berliner Weisse with a shot. Zwickl” is very popular here, which is unfiltered beer, but not Hefeweizen. In some parts of Franconia, almost every village has its own brewery pub. Try out the breweries in Cologne with their different Kölsch brands. Just like in Düsseldorf, the “longest bar in the world”, the various Altbiere (a dark top-fermented beer).
      Draft beers have to be used up quickly, so you can't tap 10 different types, even small kegs have 30l, most have 50l. I can get 20 different bottled beers in the supermarket, I don't need a pub for that.
      That's where US philosophy and European philosophy clash. In the Czech Republic there's usually only 1 or 2 beers at all.

    • @niklas6047
      @niklas6047 Місяць тому +1

      Totally agree with Arno, leave our beer alone! 😉Just kidding of course...
      I'm from the south of Bavaria, like 500 meters to the Austrian border south and beer is holy here. When in the rest of Germany it is jokingly said that beer is a "Grundnahrungsmittel", we aren't joking here. If you ever get to the south, there are some stretches of land here where you can find a brewery in almost every village and town! If you google "Deutschland Brauereien Karte" you'll notice a clear trend 😛
      As for beer you should try, I'd say all of it! Bayrisch Hell, Bayrisch Dunkel, Hefeweizen, Dunkles Hefeweizen, Zwickel, Bock- und Doppelbock is the elixir of life (opinions from Pils drinkers might vary). But really one should try not only different kinds, but also different breweries and especially smaller local ones (sure, you can drink a Jever or Radeberger, but that's not exactly a delicacy), and you'll notice vast differences in how even the same style of beer will taste, even though the ingredients and methods should be the same. Which they of course aren't, because different kinds of hops and malts are being used. And once you go down that rabbit hole, you'll realize that the Reinheitsgebot isn't really that big of a deal 😉

    • @lazymass
      @lazymass Місяць тому +1

      Dry hopping has absolutely nothing in common with faking wine barrigue aging... Like you obviously don't know what are you talking about... Confidently wrong.

    • @arnodobler1096
      @arnodobler1096 Місяць тому

      @@lazymass Es ist umstritten unter Brauern. Wie beim Weinbau: umso schlechter das Grundprodukt um so mehr musst du im Weinkeller arbeiten. Es gibt so viele Hefe und Hopfensorten mit denen man arbeiten kann.

  • @Sasham4
    @Sasham4 Місяць тому

    Thanks!

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thank you! And thank you for watching! We really appreciate it🙌

  • @dwayenway
    @dwayenway Місяць тому

    Das ist nicht dein Bier. As we like to say in Germany.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching!🍻

  • @exercept-mn7sw
    @exercept-mn7sw Місяць тому +1

    Agreed! It's not hard to compare and contrast how much variety and depth of flavour there can be in Belgian beers vs the lager varieties in Germany. I think one way forward is to allow existing beers conforming to the Reinheitsgebot to be marketed as a legally-protected "traditionelles Bier" (as an example). While beers with more varied ingredients can still be made and still be kept in the beer aisle of German supermarkets by relaxing that aspect of the Reinheitsgebot.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      I completely agree! Relaxing some parts of the Reinheitsgebot and making beers that venture off from it clear to the customer would allow for so much more beer innovation to happen in Germany while still keeping the traditional beers intact!

  • @haarlembrando
    @haarlembrando Місяць тому

    NICE

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching! Do you have a favorite German beer?

    • @haarlembrando
      @haarlembrando Місяць тому

      @@MYTravelBF I tried a bunch in Berlin but I defs cannot remember what they were called! haha Becks and Grolsch is always good. did Grolsch invent that special resealable bottle cap? you should do a vid on it

  • @Helium2020Tao-gq1iw
    @Helium2020Tao-gq1iw Місяць тому

    lol/// its over scince they made EU :)) same product for all :))

  • @jordanthomas1107
    @jordanthomas1107 Місяць тому

    YES - it's holding back creativity in beer-making, but damn is it good... sooooooo does it matter? Up for interpretation.

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому +1

      Good point! On one hand, German beer is fantastic. On the other, we'd love to see what they could be with being able to be more experimental. It could be even better! But that's where the clear labeling of anything outside of the German Beer Purity Law has to come in so the customer knows. Thanks for watching!

  • @Atom15
    @Atom15 Місяць тому

    lol
    tschö

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching, even if you might not agree. Do you have a favorite German beer you recommend?🍻

  • @weebtrash944
    @weebtrash944 Місяць тому +1

    No

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      Thanks for watching, even if you disagree. German beers are fantastic and the German Beer Purity Law did phenomenal things for beer around the world!

  • @seanganser3640
    @seanganser3640 Місяць тому

    Dude

    • @MYTravelBF
      @MYTravelBF  Місяць тому

      I'm assuming you disagree😅 The German Beer Purity Law did amazing things for beer around the world and many German beers are still world class. Thanks for watching!