⚠️ God has said in the Quran: 🔵 { O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous - ( 2:21 ) 🔴 [He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him]. ( 2:22 ) 🔵 And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful. ( 2:23 ) 🔴 But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.( 2:24 ) 🔵 And give good tidings to those who believe and do righteous deeds that they will have gardens [in Paradise] beneath which rivers flow. Whenever they are provided with a provision of fruit therefrom, they will say, "This is what we were provided with before." And it is given to them in likeness. And they will have therein purified spouses, and they will abide therein eternally. ( 2:25 ) ⚠️ Quran
You probably listen to the Vienna New Year's Concert every January 1, judging by the music?! 😅 With us, it is a family custom that we learned from our grandmother.
I have made many ribbons of this type... I also experienced several issues. First of all, their sensitivity is very low, then their impedance as well: a fraction of ohm - be careful because some amplifiers do not support this almost short circuit! Finally, you've to "close" the magnetic circuits! The external S and N poles must be connected by magnetic material to optimize the intensity of the field. The use of magnets in one piece, one large instead of several small ones, improves the homogeneity of this field. The durability of this membrane is not good because the corrugation gradually disappears or sometimes it cuts!... Anyway it's a good way to understand how an audio driver works. And I had to mention that they can play for a very wide frequency range... If somebody have infos on how to improve this design (field intensity, amplification, durability of the membrane, etc...) please share ! Shure bought a patent of a "memory shape" material now used for their mikes, solving the issues I mentioned for the membranes. Obviously, this nitinol like material isn't easily available for DIY audio...
>First of all, their sensitivity is very low, then their impedance as well: a fraction of ohm - be careful because some amplifiers do not support this almost short circuit! what if you use it in series with a 4Ohm speaker?
The current will be about less than 1A depending on frequency of course. That will be fine for safety but obviously you’ll ear your 4 ohm speaker and not or almost not the ribbon…
You need a matching transformer! The resistance of your device is very low, you need a large electric current. The sound will be louder. Otherwise, your amplifier may fail.
Yes. But actually, you could probably get away with using a simple high pass crossover (just a non-polarized electrolytic capacitor in series). It will improve the frequency response and help protect the amplifier :)
@@deetimeless5836 True statement, for such a small power device. For headphones, it's fine. And this amplifier is probably still in working condition, because it has a capacitor in the output stage.
@@ubozkurt Not really;)) Ultra 0 is superconductivity! The membrane is thin, the cross-sectional area is small, the resistance is a fraction of an ohm. When a signal occurs, a changing inductive resistance is created. After all, the diaphragm moves in a fairly powerful field of magnets. To overcome it, a large current is required in a circuit section with a small active resistance but a large inductive resistance.
This can burn the amplifier OUTPUT as it is a "short circuit". Beautiful video, but I suspect that the resistence of the system is lower than 4 or 8 ohm that tipically a normal loudspeaker has. By the way tweeter operates in HIGH frequency (above 2Khz - 20Khz) not low. For low frequency we say woofer.
я как-то раз вспомнил про ленточные высокочастотные излучатели, и у меня появилась идея, сделать такой же но широкополосный, и вот я вижу это видео, спасибо автору что воплотил мой мысленный эксперимент в реальность)
14:43 - Your Amp momentarily cuts out due to overcurrent protection / output tension surge. You should measure the impedance of the speaker before hooking it up to any amplifier. Otherwise the key component fries and dies.
Thanks. I learned from you for the first time that this type of speaker exists. Instead of aluminum strip; Accordion-shaped paper inside automobile air filters (or Universal accordion HEPA filter paper) can be used. If a very thin copper wire is wound 80-100 turns on this paper, the resistance may increase more than aluminum foil and the amplifier will not be damaged.
The pleasure to build something by himself, make easier to understand science, technic, the manufacturing. For some, who don't have money to buy expansive system, it's solution to approach it..
Good job. So if the sound power and therefore the electrical force were too high, what should we use instead of aluminum foil by increasing the power of the magnets?
For 4 Ohms impedence, use a 10uF capacitor serial to that tweeter as a high pass filter - for better results. You don't need low frequency waves pushing/pulling that film away from magnetic field. That would dull the sound of high frequencies while there is a low frequency also playing at the same time, like that drum beats at the end of video along with cello/violin. You only need the violin frequencies on the tweeter.
Ever wonder if the space between having nickle paladium bbs in between the magnet? For incase it was brass or allumina or dc4a or dcv18f-g. For same as the smaller head phones? I enjoyed the video thank you. Till the day music has the true meaning of protecting the ecosytems and those that made our oxygen cars and other life need. Per ecosystem. And impose a great reach to guide generations to the great reasons of living and life. Happy holidays.
Super, mais l'ajout d'une bobine et d'un condensateur pour couper les graves seraient mieux et pour éviter les courts-circuits, pensez à mettre une résistance talon en série. La réparation d'un ampli peut coûter cher.
On tuon tehdyn elementin vastus lähes nolla ohmia voi vahvistin vaurioitua samoin miten järjestetään syöttö muille elementeille kun vahvistin on täydet ulos.
Hai creato un microfono a nastro ,al contrario 😂. OTTIMO LAVORO , Aggiungerei un filtro passa alto,regolato su misura , Dannazione ! mi ho voglia di costruirne uno anche io 👍
brilliant! Could the High frequencies be even more crisp with a third more waves/teeth with shorter waves/teeth, but same length of your neodymium fixture? Then if so, could Widening the width for more expression, Like by a third, and with a third longer fixture lengh? Seems like you could create a seriously powerful array of these, with the idea of timbre lanes for complete genres or more generalized listening with the highest frequency output available utilizing skinnier band's widths who use the shorter fixture's lengths with shortest & skinniest at hightest frequencies and longest fixtures & fattest or widest and longest waveforms at the subs? I perceive your idea is essentially based on a generalized equation you have for a common summed waveform's natural wave shape, so having each distinct wave form's height, width, length and shape available, could 1:1 your idea. just unsure how the different fixtures could bestbe arranged so you could print a fixture to cause 1:1 capability to propagate them. like laying next to, stacking or having them form a cylindrical kind of apparatus for the main fixture, or even sending them different directions to potentially remove the ability for them to multiply on top of each other. This is very intriguing, and coming from someone whose very acclimated with all of Drum N Bass & the Hardcore Contiuum, centered mostly in or mostly having resided in newschool & oldschool hardcore junglism. Big Up, Tall up & Salute! My Eastern Bredren.
aluminyum bant elektirik iletir diyelim (hayır iletmez) o zaman ses titreşimlerine nasıl dayanacak ? aldatmak yerine gerçek bir diyafram yapabilirdin zor birşey değil
It could be improved by either gluing alu foil directly to the case or sandwitching the membrane between two pieces of plastic. As it is now it bumps into plastic and causes that nasty rubbing speaker sound.
How did you not notice the constant rattling??? This is clearly not working. I would class this in the same category as using a fork as an aerial for a radio or a tv... it works, yes, to a degree.... Also I find darth vader breathing into the microphone all along the video quite comical...
Cuando conecta los cables de salida del radio estos quedan en corto por que el aluminio es conductor, por lo tanto este video es fake y van a dañar la salida de sonido fake fake
no es fake, solo es un suicidio para el amplificador (acerando la resistencia a casi 0 que es un corto circuito total), por eso se utilizan pistas de aluminio dando varias vueltas sobre la membrana para reducir la resistencia a algo mas manejable para el amplificador o bien el uso de un tranformador bien planeado, lo cual no tengo ni idea como sea
cool construction, detailed demonstration. but, what is the purpose of such a persistent, repeated lie about two-component glue? you use the most banal primitive one-component glue - cyanoacrylate. and two-component glue is epoxy resins. so, what is the purpose of this stupid lie?
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⚠️ God has said in the Quran:
🔵 { O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous - ( 2:21 )
🔴 [He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him]. ( 2:22 )
🔵 And if you are in doubt about what We have sent down upon Our Servant [Muhammad], then produce a surah the like thereof and call upon your witnesses other than Allah, if you should be truthful. ( 2:23 )
🔴 But if you do not - and you will never be able to - then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.( 2:24 )
🔵 And give good tidings to those who believe and do righteous deeds that they will have gardens [in Paradise] beneath which rivers flow. Whenever they are provided with a provision of fruit therefrom, they will say, "This is what we were provided with before." And it is given to them in likeness. And they will have therein purified spouses, and they will abide therein eternally. ( 2:25 )
⚠️ Quran
Just for DIY.
Does it get problems if I use 5v 8 ohm amplifier
question, is it reacting to the sound and creating a secondary sound or is it acting like a speaker with additional sound produce?
You probably listen to the Vienna New Year's Concert every January 1, judging by the music?! 😅
With us, it is a family custom that we learned from our grandmother.
I have made many ribbons of this type... I also experienced several issues. First of all, their sensitivity is very low, then their impedance as well: a fraction of ohm - be careful because some amplifiers do not support this almost short circuit! Finally, you've to "close" the magnetic circuits! The external S and N poles must be connected by magnetic material to optimize the intensity of the field. The use of magnets in one piece, one large instead of several small ones, improves the homogeneity of this field. The durability of this membrane is not good because the corrugation gradually disappears or sometimes it cuts!... Anyway it's a good way to understand how an audio driver works. And I had to mention that they can play for a very wide frequency range... If somebody have infos on how to improve this design (field intensity, amplification, durability of the membrane, etc...) please share ! Shure bought a patent of a "memory shape" material now used for their mikes, solving the issues I mentioned for the membranes. Obviously, this nitinol like material isn't easily available for DIY audio...
>First of all, their sensitivity is very low, then their impedance as well: a fraction of ohm - be careful because some amplifiers do not support this almost short circuit!
what if you use it in series with a 4Ohm speaker?
@@geografiainfinitului it’ll work provided the amp is dimensioned for this impedance !
Just for DIY.
Does it get problems if I use 5v 8 ohm amplifier
The current will be about less than 1A depending on frequency of course. That will be fine for safety but obviously you’ll ear your 4 ohm speaker and not or almost not the ribbon…
@@jm892 PAM8403 what about this amplifier
You need a matching transformer! The resistance of your device is very low, you need a large electric current. The sound will be louder. Otherwise, your amplifier may fail.
Yes. But actually, you could probably get away with using a simple high pass crossover (just a non-polarized electrolytic capacitor in series). It will improve the frequency response and help protect the amplifier :)
@@deetimeless5836 True statement, for such a small power device. For headphones, it's fine. And this amplifier is probably still in working condition, because it has a capacitor in the output stage.
yes 0 ohm ultra idi....
@@ubozkurt Not really;)) Ultra 0 is superconductivity! The membrane is thin, the cross-sectional area is small, the resistance is a fraction of an ohm. When a signal occurs, a changing inductive resistance is created. After all, the diaphragm moves in a fairly powerful field of magnets. To overcome it, a large current is required in a circuit section with a small active resistance but a large inductive resistance.
This can burn the amplifier OUTPUT as it is a "short circuit". Beautiful video, but I suspect that the resistence of the system is lower than 4 or 8 ohm that tipically a normal loudspeaker has. By the way tweeter operates in HIGH frequency (above 2Khz - 20Khz) not low. For low frequency we say woofer.
О, Роман! Приятно видеть. А я помню, как ты пельмени в арбузе варил еще, вот время было
я как-то раз вспомнил про ленточные высокочастотные излучатели, и у меня появилась идея, сделать такой же но широкополосный, и вот я вижу это видео, спасибо автору что воплотил мой мысленный эксперимент в реальность)
14:43 - Your Amp momentarily cuts out due to overcurrent protection / output tension surge. You should measure the impedance of the speaker before hooking it up to any amplifier. Otherwise the key component fries and dies.
that thing is probably less than a mili ohm lmao it will destroy nearly any normal amp
To be honest, I'm surprised your output stages didn't fail after a few minutes. They're essentially being shorted. Neat experiment, though. 👍
You can hear them cutting out on loud thumps near the end of the video.
You can make a matching transformer
Nice ambient sounds
Thanks. I learned from you for the first time that this type of speaker exists.
Instead of aluminum strip; Accordion-shaped paper inside automobile air filters (or Universal accordion HEPA filter paper) can be used. If a very thin copper wire is wound 80-100 turns on this paper, the resistance may increase more than aluminum foil and the amplifier will not be damaged.
Thanks for sharing your idea! I'll definitely try to explore different materials for my next experiment.
The pleasure to build something by himself, make easier to understand science, technic, the manufacturing. For some, who don't have money to buy expansive system, it's solution to approach it..
👍👏👏👏 your project blow my mind
I built this and brought it to a party, I was laughed outta existence.
很遺憾你的遭遇
你應該得到鼓勵跟讚賞
I love those comments about that experiments. They are usefull to make the result better..
To achieve next level build a wooden car, then take it to a race!
@@Spid88PL Why build a car when you can just download one? Oh, wait! You wouldn't download a car... ; )
🤣🤣🤣
Good job. So if the sound power and therefore the electrical force were too high, what should we use instead of aluminum foil by increasing the power of the magnets?
For 4 Ohms impedence, use a 10uF capacitor serial to that tweeter as a high pass filter - for better results. You don't need low frequency waves pushing/pulling that film away from magnetic field. That would dull the sound of high frequencies while there is a low frequency also playing at the same time, like that drum beats at the end of video along with cello/violin. You only need the violin frequencies on the tweeter.
Ever wonder if the space between having nickle paladium bbs in between the magnet? For incase it was brass or allumina or dc4a or dcv18f-g. For same as the smaller head phones? I enjoyed the video thank you. Till the day music has the true meaning of protecting the ecosytems and those that made our oxygen cars and other life need. Per ecosystem. And impose a great reach to guide generations to the great reasons of living and life. Happy holidays.
Very impressive
neodymium magnets have protecting coating so they don't rust
Excellent ❤❤❤
Thank you!
Such a speaker must be connected to the amplifier through a matching transformer.
Super, mais l'ajout d'une bobine et d'un condensateur pour couper les graves seraient mieux et pour éviter les courts-circuits, pensez à mettre une résistance talon en série. La réparation d'un ampli peut coûter cher.
Why not increase the size and see if you can pick up the ambient energy to a capacitor and an LED , that would be fantastic 👍🏻 well done.
That's a great idea! I will definitely try it, thank you!
This is the description of a ribbon microphone!
also needs crossover network as well as impedence matching transformer
If you want to Destroy Buildings with that, then the only thing missing is a 2.5 Gigawatt Flux Capacitor.🔈🔉🔊
Super !
와~ 오!! 신기하다~~
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oui je confirme cela !
Ставится согласующий трансформатор
Flux for soldering to aluminum? I did not know this existed.
11:12 You keep saying it needs "Low Frequencies". Actually, low frequencies are for bass. It's "High Frequencies" for tweeters.
În other Project I'v seen an impedance transformer on ferite core, from about 8 ohm to 0.5 ohm.
Hai creato un microfono a nastro ,al contrario 😂.
OTTIMO LAVORO ,
Aggiungerei un filtro passa alto,regolato su misura ,
Dannazione ! mi ho voglia di costruirne uno anche io 👍
What about using copper foil? I wanna give this a try.
Copper tape is sold in various thickness, im sure acetone could remove the glue on the backside of the foil. Tape is easy to solder.
Ésa "cosa" quemaría mi amplificador de inmediato!!!,,, mas bien, lo utilizaría como microfono de cinta con un buen transformador de impedancia😅😅😅
Very Nice! 👍🏼
Bro what type of soldering iron have you used during the video & what's the model of it? I need one like you shown in the video.
C245
Cuántos voltios y cuánta potencia maxima soporta? Se puede potenciar? Se pueden poner en estéreo?
I WISH TO FIND THE COOPER or Sliver materials
brilliant!
Could the High frequencies be even more crisp with a third more waves/teeth with shorter waves/teeth, but same length of your neodymium fixture? Then if so, could Widening the width for more expression, Like by a third, and with a third longer fixture lengh? Seems like you could create a seriously powerful array of these, with the idea of timbre lanes for complete genres or more generalized listening with the highest frequency output available utilizing skinnier band's widths who use the shorter fixture's lengths with shortest & skinniest at hightest frequencies and longest fixtures & fattest or widest and longest waveforms at the subs?
I perceive your idea is essentially based on a generalized equation you have for a common summed waveform's natural wave shape, so having each distinct wave form's height, width, length and shape available, could 1:1 your idea. just unsure how the different fixtures could bestbe arranged so you could print a fixture to cause 1:1 capability to propagate them. like laying next to, stacking or having them form a cylindrical kind of apparatus for the main fixture, or even sending them different directions to potentially remove the ability for them to multiply on top of each other. This is very intriguing, and coming from someone whose very acclimated with all of Drum N Bass & the Hardcore Contiuum, centered mostly in or mostly having resided in newschool & oldschool hardcore junglism. Big Up, Tall up & Salute! My Eastern Bredren.
increible, awesome
❤❤❤❤❤
Very nice. Thanks for share. Maybe toghether we can make something new
Awesome ❤
❤
what do you use to stick solder to aluminium?
Not OP, but I think it's silver paint. It's conductive so it can be used to fix traces on a PCB.
aluminyum bant elektirik iletir diyelim (hayır iletmez) o zaman ses titreşimlerine nasıl dayanacak ? aldatmak yerine gerçek bir diyafram yapabilirdin zor birşey değil
Aluminum tape does conduct electricity, what are you talking about?
yes it actually does conduct electricity
impedance too low or short circuit
sure
Very cool 👍🏻
Молодец Отлично 👍 👌 🤝
on a class a/b transformer you will need an impedence matching transformer on a class d amp you probably get away without using a transformer
It could be improved by either gluing alu foil directly to the case or sandwitching the membrane between two pieces of plastic. As it is now it bumps into plastic and causes that nasty rubbing speaker sound.
Я в детстве смотрел канал Роман Урсу про лайфхаки и самоделки, когда он ещё был на русском языке
для усилителя такая нагрузка это КЗ !
Какое сопротивление в ом?
What is the resistance of the speaker?
I think it's a fraction of an ohm
How did you not notice the constant rattling??? This is clearly not working. I would class this in the same category as using a fork as an aerial for a radio or a tv... it works, yes, to a degree.... Also I find darth vader breathing into the microphone all along the video quite comical...
Looks like a microphone, I thought..
Ha-ha. ...and what about the efficiency?
wait...let him cook
Cuando conecta los cables de salida del radio estos quedan en corto por que el aluminio es conductor, por lo tanto este video es fake y van a dañar la salida de sonido fake fake
no es fake, solo es un suicidio para el amplificador (acerando la resistencia a casi 0 que es un corto circuito total), por eso se utilizan pistas de aluminio dando varias vueltas sobre la membrana para reducir la resistencia a algo mas manejable para el amplificador o bien el uso de un tranformador bien planeado, lo cual no tengo ni idea como sea
zero ohm xD
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cool construction, detailed demonstration. but, what is the purpose of such a persistent, repeated lie about two-component glue? you use the most banal primitive one-component glue - cyanoacrylate. and two-component glue is epoxy resins. so, what is the purpose of this stupid lie?
Excellent ❤