IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR ELIAS LINDHOLM… (Vancouver Canucks, Boston Bruins News)
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We're talking about Boston Bruins centre Elias Lindholm, and some contract comparisons since his departure from the Calgary Flames and Vancouver Canucks.
This video is taking place after the 2024 NHL Entry Draft, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs.
The 2024 NHL Draft 1st Round went as follows:
1st) San Jose Sharks, Macklin Celebrini
2nd) Chicago Blackhawks, Artyom Levshunov
3rd) Anaheim Ducks, Beckett Sennecke
4th) Columbus Blue Jackets, Cayden Lindstrom,
5th) Montreal Canadiens, Ivan Demidov
6th) Utah Hockey Club, Tij Iginla
7th) Ottawa Senators, Carter Yakemchuk
8th) Seattle Kraken, Berkly Catton
9th) Calgary Flames, Zayne Parekh
10th) New Jersey Devils, Anton Silayev
11th) San Jose Sharks (from Buffalo Sabres), Sam Dickinson
12th) Minnesota Wild (from Philadelphia Flyers), Zeev Buium
13th) Philadelphia Flyers (from Minnesota Wild), Jett Luchanko
14th) Buffalo Sabres (from Pittsburgh Penguins via San Jose Sharks), Konsta Helenius
15th) Detroit Red Wings, Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
16th) St. Louis Blues, Adam Jiricek
17th) Washington Capitals, Terik Parascak
18th) Chicago Blackhawks (from New York Islanders), Sacha Boisvert
19th) Vegas Golden Knights, Trevor Connelly
20th) New York Islanders (from Tampa Bay Lightning via Chicago Blackhawks), Cole Eiserman
21st) Montreal Canadiens (from Los Angeles Kings), Michael Hage
22nd) Nashville Predators, Yegor Surin
23rd) Anaheim Ducks (from Toronto Maple Leafs), Stian Solberg
24th) Utah Hockey Club (from Colorado Avalanche), Cole Beaudoin
25th) Boston Bruins (from Boston Bruins via Detroit Red Wings and Ottawa Senators), Dean Letourneau
26th) Los Angeles Kings (from Winnipeg Jets via Montreal Canadiens), Liam Greentree
27th) Chicago Blackhawks (from Carolina Hurricanes), Marek Vanacker
28th) Calgary Flames (from Vancouver Canucks), Matvei Gridin
29th) Dallas Stars, Emil Hemming
30th) New York Rangers, EJ Emery
31st) Toronto Maple Leafs (from Edmonton Oilers via Anaheim Ducks), Ben Danford
32nd) Edmonton Oilers (from Florida Panthers via Philadelphia Flyers), Sam O'Reilly
This video is also taking place after 2024 NHL Season, and after the 2024 Stanley Cup Playoffs, where the Florida Panthers defeated the Edmonton Oilers in the Finals.
Elias Lindholm was one of the top NHL prospects at the 2013 NHL Entry Draft.
The 2013 NHL Entry Draft saw many top NHL prospects get selected by a variety of teams. The first round of the draft went as follows:
1st - Colorado Avalanche, Nathan MacKinnon
2nd - Florida Panthers, Aleksander Barkov
3rd - Tampa Bay Lightning, Jonathan Drouin
4th - Nashville Predators, Seth Jones
5th - Carolina Hurricanes, Elias Lindholm
6th - Calgary Flames, Sean Monahan
7th - Edmonton Oilers, Darnell Nurse
8th - Buffalo Sabres, Rasmus Ristolainen
9th - Vancouver Canucks (from New Jersey Devils), Bo Horvat
10th - Dallas Stars, Valeri Nichushkin
11th - Philadelphia flyers, Samuel Morin
12th - Phoenix Coyotes, Max Domi
13th - Winnipeg Jets, Josh Morrissey
14th - Columbus Blue Jackets, Alexander Wennberg
15th - New York Islanders, Ryan Pulock
16th - Buffalo Sabres (from Minnesota Wild), Nikita Zadorov
17th - Ottawa Senators, Curtis Lazar
18th - San Jose Sharks (from Detroit Red Wings), Mirco Mueller
19th - Columbus Blue Jackets (from New York Rangers), Kerby Rychel
20th - Detroit Red Wings (from San Jose Sharks), Anthony Mantha
21st - Toronto Maple Leafs, Frederik Gauthier
22nd - Calgary Flames (from St. Louis Blues), Emile Poirier
23rd - Washington Capitals, Andre Burakovsky
24th - Vancouver Canucks, Hunter Shinkaruk
25th - Montreal Canadiens, Michael McCarron
26th - Anaheim Ducks, Shea Theodore
27th - Columbus Blue Jackets (from Los Angeles Kings), Marko Dano
28th - Calgary Flames (from Pittsburgh Penguins), Morgan Klimchuk
29th - Dallas Stars (from Boston Bruins), Jason Dickinson
30th - Chicago Blackhawks, Ryan Hartman
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You completely failed to take into account the tax situation in Boston vs Calgary and vancouver. He's making waaaaaay more money in pocket than if he signed the big deal in Calgary.
Also, who would want to play in a rebuild (Calgary) ..lame duck career
looks like a win win situation. Calgary doesn't get cap strap and got some good assets to kickstart the rebuild, and Lindholm gets to play on a competing team for only $750,000 per year less.
According to Dhaliwal, Nucks never offered Lindy 7x7. That's a misconception that was floating around. Nucks spoke with his agent about a possible extension & he said the starting point would be 7x7. Nucks didn't engage any further...
Same thing all about $$$$$
Wow, 8x8.5 is absurd for Lind. Can't believe he turned that down. Then again,. who wants to play in Calgary??🤷♂
People who think money/taxes are the only thing players think about need to give their head a shake. Personal preferences, family ties, looking for a fresh start, looking for a cup winner, wanting to have a bigger role and more ice time, wanting to play with certain players, leaving a toxic culture, all play a part. Humans are complex.
It certainly is a huge advantage to the teams who have lower taxes.
@ScottStenlund-x9mguenztel never said that 😂😂😂😂
@ScottStenlund-x9mand you don’t really know much do you… guenztel wasn’t our first option debrusk was:) we have to pay Hughes demko and boeser in the next few years that’s why we’re not picking him up but your a goof anyways
@ScottStenlund-x9m you didn’t read the second part where the core that’s better then ur whole team is up for contracts
@ScottStenlund-x9m 😂😂😂😂watch the press conference there Scotty he said HIMSELF debrusk was the number 1 option period shut up stop crying in a comment section your a dork
Comparing Lindholm to these guys is a bit silly. I think the chances that Lindholm ends up being Eriksson are slim to none. The Bruins pro scouting has done a pretty damn good job. They know the player, and they think he's going to excel with the team. Look at the guys they brought it. Coyle, Zacha, the other Lindholm. They have all put up their best numbers with the Bruins. Look at the players that Lindholm will play with.. and Marchand and Pastrnak on the PP. How much you wanna bet his numbers are closer to his career best than they're to what Eriksson put up as a Canuck. The Bruins are a consistent winning franchise. The Bruins got the player they wanted, and they didn't have to give up Lysell or a first round pick. Come on, you can point to this player and this one, but I don't see the comparison. Marchand and Pastrnak played great hockey with a right shot 2way center in Bergeron. Lindholm isn't Bergeron, but he's the next best thing when you can get him for nothing. Big win for the Bruins, and I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the hunt for another Presidents trophy late in the season.
Small point form next time nobody reading that
Lindholm wants to win a Cup. Play in the East with less travel & less taxes. I could go on
I don’t bear any ill will to Lindholm. Yeah it sucks that we gave up a lot of assets for a rental player but only teams that think they have a chance to win the cup do that and if we’d had a bit more luck with our team’s health this past post season, Canucks would have beaten the Oilers. I’m very happy with the Lindholm for Debrusk “swap” as I feel Debrusk has a better chance of extracting more from Petey in the post season than Lindholm did. And since we have both those guys for the next 7 years let’s hope so!
I think he want to play for a classic team with great outlook. Stanley Cup winning capability. Vancouver is not there yet. Boston was close to a final with a pretty unimpressive team. It’s in the walls the winner mentality sips through the organization.
He left some money on a table, but maybe he just wanted to be with a team not in rebuild mode.
Meanwhile, Toffoli literally did the opposite and got his bag from a bottom dweller.
Methinks, you missed some non-monetary dynamics. As beautiful as Vancouver is, he (and Zadorov) wanted to be on the Boston stage. In addition, they both have a perfect fit in terms of where and how they will fit into the lineup. Why are you still missing that?
Makes sense to me that Lindholm didn't want to be on a Calgary team going through a rebuild. For the Canucks, I think they were misguided to give up assets for a rental that only could have worked if Petey was converted to wing, or else having Lindholm as a too good for a 3rd line centre. That never made sense to me. Guentzel made sense but ... dang.
Boston really needed to replace Bergeron so that makes sense, Big Z makes sense there. Will Lindholm thrive there? Who knows, it's impossible to replace Bergeron, so 'good enough' maybe works. Money isn't everything for players. Being #1 centre in Boston sounds better than #3 C in Van, or #1 C in Calgary during a 5 year rebuild.
god forbid he wants to play with pasta and win a cup.
Some players like to play in US market than in Canadian market, so I am not surprised if Lindholm unwilling to sign with the Canadian team even though salary is about the same (of course there is more if you count currency + tax rate as some of the audiences said in previous videos).
All NHL players are paid in USD, even those playing for Canadian teams
Yep always paid in USD in Canada or the US
Who would want to stay w that mess in Calgary if they had a way out? All 3 of their top line bailed.
He wants to win. So why would he want to play in Calgary or Vancouver?
You probably have to look at what he lost as a net. The sad reality is that Alberta's taxes which are the lowest in Canada are still as high as the highest tax US jurisdictions that likely narrows the gap. I also suspect he wasn't really in the mood to sit through at least four years of a rebuild in Calgary and went to the contender which offered him the most. He's rich either way.
Wonder if his wife knows this or maybe she is the one who wanted out of Cow town?
Taxes makes it a win for Lindholm if I'm not mistaken. And Boston seems like a better city, location, than anything in Alberta. Boston is always in the mix for the cup. That could change, who knows. Boston has Zadorov now as well. They will be gushing over there about him. Rightly so. I'm stoked the Canucks added the players from Boston. Fills needs, and cap space never a bad thing.
He is about average at best. He is a solid player in the 6 million range at best for 5 years max. I am glad the Canucks didn't sign him.
Hanafin as he was in Calgary wasn't worth that sort of money... if he was clicking with Huberdeau and giving him value .. then yes but not what he was showing.
Opportunity to be a top line C on a good team > money. It's understandable that a person leaves money to play (or work) in a more desirable role and environment.
The offer from Calgary was a very good one monetarily. The only reason that came to my mind is people don’t like living in Calgary.
Less travel I think is reason
I don't believe Ryan Malone played for the Oilers.
A lot of these long term deals will age badly. That's why I don't get upset, besides strapping the Canucks with a contract that prevents them from filling out the roster, that they didn't go out and sign a guy like Guentzel. The Canucks made very strategic moves. DeBrusk was one of the youngest UFA wingers and a guy I've liked since he was drafted. He seemed like a classic Boston Bruins type of player. I also really like Danton Heinen. He could be a steal. The guy is a perennial 16-18 goal scorer as a 3rd liner. The Canucks have options now in their lineup as well as toughness and scoring. On D, they're probably slightly worse, but Zadorov has never been a top 4 defenseman over 82 games and that contract could age terribly. I would have liked another 4-5 defensive defenseman, but there's a salary cap and given where they were at the end of the season, they've done really well. If Lekkerimaki shows significant improvement and makes a push for the main roster, that would be insane. As for Lindholm, that contract could be very ugly in the last 4-5 years. He's already declined significantly offensively in the last couple of seasons and he's being asked to play a top line role. Maybe it works for a couple of seasons, but if it doesn't, yikes.
It certainly would be rewarding for the Vancouver to win their first ever Stanley Cup this year. As much as I wanted Zadorov to stay, it would be so fitting for he and Lindholm to be watching the Canucks hoist the cup. Neither his nor Zadorov's contracts are going to age well. I give them three years before both are bought out.
Ah, yeah, ok lol
I can see Zadorov being bought out in 3 years, but not Lindholm. Lindholm is good enough to thrive if given the right teammates, and he is a good face-off center. But Zadorov is pretty much a 3rd pairing player who is good to bang in the playoff. Most players player harder in playoffs but if he doesn't show up till the playoffs, that doesn't make him a 5.5 a year player.
@@soullessrenegades1444 You're probably correct as Lindholm will definitely be on the top line. He should have chemistry with Pasternak. I suppose we will just have to wait and see.
Worry about the Canucks, let the Bruins do their thing.
there is a interview with blake coleman about a month ago its very telling about treliving and the calgary organization
Lindholm not taking the offer from Treliving was the greatest gift for flames fan because the return will be a lot more value than what Midholm can produce he seems to be declining year by year
Pussholm. Bruins already have one certainly don’t need another
Ryan Malone never played for the Oilers.
Lindholm is going to be fine. He will be the best center in Boston and he will do fine there. Sour Grapes it sounds like.
Yup Calgary was going nowhere.
@ScottStenlund-x9m That's another read. He had 22 goals and 64 points a year ago and 42 goals and 82 points two years ago. He's a talented defensively responsible center so closer to Patrice Bergeron than many. He is an actual first line center which zacha is not. He will thrive with Pastrnak and be an upgrade.
@ScottStenlund-x9m Could be. I like addressing a teams actual needs with free agents. Lot of teams go out and choose the shiniest player availblbe despite their needs. He was good in carolina and great in calgary. He was never an offensive whirl wind but he will do well with pastrnak, who wouldn't and the complete game package may not deteriorate as fast as if he was a one noteoffensive player.
@ScottStenlund-x9m true.but hes an improvement for the bruins at center though, probably a big improvement. The bruins are an aging team that either needs a bit of a rebuild or should have drafted barzal, connor an chabot rather than zboril debrusk and synyshyn.
@ScottStenlund-x9m Sure You could be right. We are going to see soon. He's an upgrade because the center situation in Boston was so bad. You are paying a premium cause he's a UFA. A team with Pavel Zacha and Charlie Coyle as their first two centers is going no where.
Just here to say I don't care about Lindholm or Zadorov.
But, your content is great.
Keep up the good work.
What
You should look at centermen with 50% wins that scored 40 goals in 2022 go for.
Dylan Cozens is a 7million a year center.
I mean, be serious
Good thing Rutherford didn't give him $7X7
Lindholm isn't the same player he was two years ago..
Too bad Petey didn't play like he plays in EA Sports NHL24 lol
If hes playing on the 1st line beside pasta, chances are he'll live up to the contract for at least a few years. However, watching him play in van and calgary, he looks like a player that is only as good as the players around him. I would still call it an overpay but boston needs centers so they didnt really have a choice.
Elias hated the Canucks and hated playing for Rick
I would take less money to go play in boston too who wants to stick around a rebuilding calgary team when you’re 29 or a Vancouver team where you’re gonna be played further down the lienup…
This isn't anything new. I think he knew he screwed up rejecting CGY's offer even before he was traded to VCR
Zadina left millions on the table too; so what.
Who wants to play in Calgary or wants to be a flame anyways 😂
Less travel.
Plain and simple, he wants to win a cup before he retires and he's not getting that chance in calgary. They are nowhere near ready right now and they still have to even draft a number of good players in the years to come and then hope that these players can become something further down the road. He will be retired by the time they come around, if they even get there at all. It's about the trophy, not the money
Not that hard to figure out
Seravalli is pronounced more like "Sarah Valley"
He will make it up in Tax savings.
Taxes?
He didn't wanna play on a shitty flames team obviously...
Classic bruins hater being mad😂
Lindholm 70 points in Boston 🔐 lock
I think that people need to get a life. just because he left money on the table in calgary and vancouver is irrelevant. he chose where he wanted to be at an offer he accepted. one hypothesis i have why he went east is a simple one. he is much closer by air to his own country with no connecting flights. calgary is going nowhere and missed the playoffs. vancouver was a lock for the playoffs. he was able to chase a cup and he took it in van. and business is business. people talk about vancouver management using him to achieve their goals as a benefit. and lindholm did the same with van from a players standpoint. it is what it is. let it go.
Yes also he was a third line center in Vancouver. In Boston he’s gonna be on a playoff team and playing on line 1.
Lindholm another soft Euro just what the Bruins don’t need.
Give me a Break All players are getting gringo $$$$
Linholm and debrusk had the same points in the post season. Debrusk on a team system with players he knows and lindholm on a new team and new system....
I'm getting a Loui Eriksson vibe from Lindholm. Best to stay away. Disappointed about losing Zadorov, but Bruins overpaid for a 20 point defenseman.
He’s not getting paid to score points
@@edited1325 If a defenseman isn't moving the puck 5 on 5, he's a liability. His plus/minus was zero on a team that had an overall plus/minus of +58.
Lindhom’s contract is going to age very badly…
Not really. The cap is going up and as a 2C in the future it ain’t that bad considering krejci was getting paid 7 million in the 2010’s as the 2C
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No One wants to play in Canada... Stop meowing
so sad to see so many bruins hatters out there lol u guys gotta to admit nhl players wants to play for the bruins hehe so suck it
Oh - they hate the Oilers more than the Bruins trust me lol
Poor Lindholm he missed out on 16.5 million dollars boo ho poor millionaire hockey player