G'day Kevin, I'm nearly 50 and I grew up working on cars and trucks with my dad and I remember him explaining things like this to me. In this technological day and age you're hard pressed to hear it explained like this. Love your videos. Cheers.
this is really helpful information for tuning a bike engine iv had real trouble with an old Suzuki gn 250 that had no computer to tune i have learnt something today that is very important my engine was richer than bill gates
Thanks Kevin, I still ride a bike that's 30 plus years old. I'll admit that I don't look at my plugs as often as I should. In the case with some bikes is that manufacturers made it very difficult to access. I have enjoyed your articles for years.
This is all still relavent as everybody messes with factory settings. On motorcycles, who doesn't? Professor Cameron is a wealth of experience and knowledge.
Otoscopes are dirt cheap online and ideal for magnifying plug insulators, small holes including bolt holes etc. Carb users who race often use AFR meters and add oxygen sensor bungs for precise measurements and tuning.
God I remember watching Rick Jhonson ride as a kid in motocross. They had stacks of plugs all over the place each test lap he did before big race. They said exactly what this guy is saying 30 years later lol "+1 Liked"
yup plug chops....only way to know with carbs. Best way for the mains is a WFO pull at red line then shut off the engine without backing off the throttle so only mains are most significant. Pull the plugs there on the spot and put an old pair in to ride home on. Now you can read them or take a hack saw and split them to see the insulator better. If its a light, light brown then mixture lean..or just a rule of thumb lighter is leaner.
Crumbs - showing my age ~ I know exactly the feeling of pulling my sparkers and peering intently then comparing the colour and deposits to a chart on my garage wall
Can you please do a story on fuel injection systems currently used on motorcycles. What causes the horrible snatchiness at low speed on-off throttle changes that carburetted engines don't do and what can you do to eliminate it.
Some of us miss those days when fixing a hard starting motor meant popping the distributor cap and checking the points to see if they were burned and to make t a temporary fix using a dime or a matchbook cover to space the points. Years ago one of my uncles said, "Auto technology should have stopped in 1932 when ordinary folks could fix their own cars..."
Great info... Very knowledgeable and understandable, so surprised that you don't need reader glasses I'm 50 and I can't see a foot in front of my face God bless you
Back in Carb days I would drive my bike on a flat road at a constant 50-60mph for a mile and then pull a plug. If it was tan-good, white-lean, black-rich.
I got only one question. I didnt understand where should be that carbon ring? Up, Down or in middle? Or there should be no carbon ring but from what i heard if its perfect than it should have that ring.
I've been reading spark plugs wrong??? The "carbon ring" you mention is the first time I've heard that. Dark soot plug always told me its a rich mixture. White or grey colour told me a lean mixture, which is how most carburetted four strokes come from factory. And a chocolate brown colour was just where you wanted your mixture for correct power. Advanced spark plug reading would tell the tech if you were using too hot or too cold spark plugs. Whats your opinion about spark plug temp range and how to determine correct range by reading the plug???
hi i have question sign of weak spark plug is Hard to start engine.what about hard start engine only in the morning or cold engine is that damage spark plug issue ?because when the engine warm or just turn off for 1 hour is very easy to start the engine.thank you
Where would the best carbon ring formation be, nearer further?
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Hi Man thanks for share! Wow… so many years since this video and just now I am making my own plug chop but I did not found good results... please help me! I know it is so hard using only data to analyze but I have not more to show. I made plug chop as listed: Warm. New spark plug. Wot per 6 series one mitute each one avoiding slow jetting. Plug chop and no carbon deposits found!!! Nothing! very clean insolator base! Is it so lean for a XR150L standard carburization with #102 main jet, 450 mosl, 28°C, Keihin PD Carburetor. I don't have more to say. thanks for attention! Regards from Colombia South America.
I don't think it is as antiquated as he calls it. The KTM 950 SM was built until 2009 or something and it featured a magnificent carburator engine. I am 20 years of age and have ridden far more carburated motorcycles than injected ones.
Jim Barber If you have a very rich fuel to air mixture based on the spark plugs and then you re-jet the carburator to say two or three steps down on jet size... You WILL NEED to put new plugs in, then run it hard and pull the new plugs out to see where you are at with the fuel/air mixture that you leaned out.. The plugs from the heavy fuel mixture will NOT clean up to give you any idea of what your adjustment has done.
...Time was....you could go into any auto-parts store a get a big chart , in color, showing the different plugs, and why they looked like they did.....When you started seeing tiny balls of aluminum on the insulator....you've got a problem.....
Fuck the music in the background is nauseating. It sounds like the soundtrack for a cheap horror flick, perhaps something with a stuffed monkey clanging cymbals together.
...annoying photographers.....the same guys that love to see a huge rooster-tail of sparks when looking at anything involving a welding shop.......but for us welders....that is seen as a big source of nasty abrasive particles....
I could listen to him all day long... For years.. more videos I begggg!!!
ダナンジャイ true that
G'day Kevin, I'm nearly 50 and I grew up working on cars and trucks with my dad and I remember him explaining things like this to me. In this technological day and age you're hard pressed to hear it explained like this. Love your videos. Cheers.
Is that your motorcycle in the on your profile picture? Looks like a good touring and cruising motorcycle!
this is really helpful information for tuning a bike engine iv had real trouble with an old Suzuki gn 250 that had no computer to tune i have learnt something today that is very important my engine was richer than bill gates
That my friend is the best presentation I have ever seen on a spark plugs..thank you
Thanks Kevin, I still ride a bike that's 30 plus years old. I'll admit that I don't look at my plugs as often as I should. In the case with some bikes is that manufacturers made it very difficult to access. I have enjoyed your articles for years.
Excellent video. no bull, just fact and experience shining through.
So true about progress & I used to read my spark plugs before O2 sensor & ecu.Wise man.
i still use a carbed bike on daily...this is very helpful...thank you...more videos like this will go long way
Another mystery of life removed. Keep going, please, we are your students.
he is awesome
Excellent video. I have enjoyed all your articles in Cycle World all the way back to the mid 1990's.
This is all still relavent as everybody messes with factory settings. On motorcycles, who doesn't? Professor Cameron is a wealth of experience and knowledge.
Very interesting. Love the photographer comment at the end, sounds like there is still some pain there. :)
Otoscopes are dirt cheap online and ideal for magnifying plug insulators, small holes including bolt holes etc. Carb users who race often use AFR meters and add oxygen sensor bungs for precise measurements and tuning.
Thanks for this valuable refresher. It still applies to my DR650.
Well done sir. Even with chip mapping, you still need us dinosaurs to evaluate the computer's decisions.
God I remember watching Rick Jhonson ride as a kid in motocross. They had stacks of plugs all over the place each test lap he did before big race. They said exactly what this guy is saying 30 years later lol "+1 Liked"
Thank you so much for this I have not done anything with a carb in years until now 2007 royal enfield 500 thank you
More videos.PLEASE!👍👍
..Yeah, pretty hard to get too much of Kevin....
What a great video! Thank you - most instructive and clear.
A real mechanic...great to see
yup plug chops....only way to know with carbs. Best way for the mains is a WFO pull at red line then shut off the engine without backing off the throttle so only mains are most significant. Pull the plugs there on the spot and put an old pair in to ride home on. Now you can read them or take a hack saw and split them to see the insulator better. If its a light, light brown then mixture lean..or just a rule of thumb lighter is leaner.
Very very very FINE video! Thanks
Awesome educational video! We need more of these type of videos as well, always making room for improvement.
We need this information even if the ecm and o2 should be handling
I really liok up to you Kevin
Crumbs - showing my age ~ I know exactly the feeling of pulling my sparkers and peering intently then comparing the colour and deposits to a chart on my garage wall
Damn that was a real Sherlock Holmes story .. educational and fascinating .. thanks a lot!! :))
He does not like that photographer lol
Im sayin lol it sounded more like a real experience than an example
this is helping me properly jet my motorcycle. thank you
I want more of this guy
well iive in mexico. trust me this informacion is gold. thanks man
"We don't need to know any of these nonsense". That's funny!
Can you please do a story on fuel injection systems currently used on motorcycles. What causes the horrible snatchiness at low speed on-off throttle changes that carburetted engines don't do and what can you do to eliminate it.
Spark plugs do not "clean up"? What about the "Italian tune-up"? I love the videos please keep them coming!
Some of us miss those days when fixing a hard starting motor meant popping the distributor cap and checking the points to see if they were burned and to make t a temporary fix using a dime or a matchbook cover to space the points. Years ago one of my uncles said, "Auto technology should have stopped in 1932 when ordinary folks could fix their own cars..."
Overnight, I am a big fan!!!
Yes we need to know this some things a ecu can't tell you
My hat is tipped to you sir.
Great info... Very knowledgeable and understandable, so surprised that you don't need reader glasses I'm 50 and I can't see a foot in front of my face God bless you
How ever some like old school, like a V111 S&S cycle motor .1994 Harley-Davidson Electra Guide.
more videos please with all due respect master.
Back in Carb days I would drive my bike on a flat road at a constant 50-60mph for a mile and then pull a plug. If it was tan-good, white-lean, black-rich.
Fantastic video, age and experience beats rest proven again
That's It! I'm throwing out all my red handkerchiefs!
Very interesting. Enjoying these vids.
Where were you 20 years ago
That was super educational thank you very much lol
thank you so much for your wisdom!
So the oil ring should be closest to the part where the spark bounces?
sir ..where the ring should be for best power...and which color to look for...please explain
naveedaka I've heard 1mm height from base, but that was for a 2-stroke. It seems as long as you see carbon on a fresh plug you are *"likely"* safe.
I got only one question. I didnt understand where should be that carbon ring? Up, Down or in middle? Or there should be no carbon ring but from what i heard if its perfect than it should have that ring.
The engine usually runs good when the engine is running lean and therefore I think the ring should be far down at the bottom.
Love this guy
I've been reading spark plugs wrong??? The "carbon ring" you mention is the first time I've heard that.
Dark soot plug always told me its a rich mixture.
White or grey colour told me a lean mixture, which is how most carburetted four strokes come from factory.
And a chocolate brown colour was just where you wanted your mixture for correct power.
Advanced spark plug reading would tell the tech if you were using too hot or too cold spark plugs.
Whats your opinion about spark plug temp range and how to determine correct range by reading the plug???
hi i have question sign of weak spark plug is Hard to start engine.what about hard start engine only in the morning or cold engine is that damage spark plug issue ?because when the engine warm or just turn off for 1 hour is very easy to start the engine.thank you
Where would the best carbon ring formation be, nearer further?
Hi Man thanks for share!
Wow… so many years since this video and just now I am making my own plug chop but I did not found good results... please help me!
I know it is so hard using only data to analyze but I have not more to show.
I made plug chop as listed:
Warm.
New spark plug.
Wot per 6 series one mitute each one avoiding slow jetting.
Plug chop and no carbon deposits found!!! Nothing!
very clean insolator base!
Is it so lean for a XR150L standard carburization with #102 main jet, 450 mosl, 28°C, Keihin PD Carburetor.
I don't have more to say.
thanks for attention!
Regards from Colombia South America.
I don't think it is as antiquated as he calls it. The KTM 950 SM was built until 2009 or something and it featured a magnificent carburator engine. I am 20 years of age and have ridden far more carburated motorcycles than injected ones.
I just took a poll.
Nobody cares.
wow people had it rough, yeah progress
More closure pictures pls.
Where should that ring be?
What if the cool end is really hot?
Acually a plug will clean by itself
Jim Barber
If you have a very rich fuel to air mixture based on the spark plugs and then you re-jet the carburator to say two or three steps down on jet size...
You WILL NEED to put new plugs in, then run it hard and pull the new plugs out to see where you are at with the fuel/air mixture that you leaned out..
The plugs from the heavy fuel mixture will NOT clean up to give you any idea of what your adjustment has done.
When UFO's strafe the earth they will scoop up Kevin Cameron.
Well, much of this is solved just installing an oxigen sensor or a pitometer on primary manifold.
...Time was....you could go into any auto-parts store a get a big chart , in color, showing the different plugs, and why they looked like they did.....When you started seeing tiny balls of aluminum on the insulator....you've got a problem.....
does a 4 electrode spark plug good for a motorcycle?
Well I learned something
My 04 VLX shadow is carbed.
I'll alert the media.
From left to right? Mine say NGK on them....?
Binge watch night!
All when s-plugs could be fully dismantled into individual pieces
Jim Lahey?
information is excellent but....
it should have been focuced on the spark plug in depth and not the person!
I think I fell asleep
Fuck the music in the background is nauseating. It sounds like the soundtrack for a cheap horror flick, perhaps something with a stuffed monkey clanging cymbals together.
...annoying photographers.....the same guys that love to see a huge rooster-tail of sparks when looking at anything involving a welding shop.......but for us welders....that is seen as a big source of nasty abrasive particles....
Auto forensics
if yer this coots age, get yer kid to check, usualy sum letters, numbers on the side.....
Way to much non sense talk. Waisting time