The Cheyne Horan Starfin
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Miles took his 7Ft Roundtail with the Cheyne Horan Starfin to Urbnsurf to use in the wavepool and he got lots of questions about it. So this video is about the history of the fin and the fins that came after it.
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It’s on backwards
Haha yeah, just chucked it in for the video, didn't check...rookie error
Mine just arrived same color .Im a builder and I made a Half Zap single 5'10" based on the Theories of Richo who taught me to shape in the 80's when he came to Malibu for a contest . Piping Hot wetsuits dropped him off at our doorstep.We been friends ever since .In 86 he shaped 200 boards in one summer for Zuma Jays with a flipping sureform .Channel bottom and squashes .All of them sold within a year .
My Zap is almost done sprayed in Evel Kenevel's stars and stripes .I can't wait . Also I have 2 of those 3d fins from FCS at my Hawaii factory .Super fun . Lastly .A friend just brought over Cheynes 6'
1" from 1982 his personal he brought around to the shops to show at of all places Zuma Jays in Malibu . Cheers dude !!!!!
Sounds like an awesome board. The board in the video I shaped after getting the fin and chatting to Cheyne. It turned out ok but doing another version soon which I will video. Hope to see some pics of this new board, the artwork sounds great.
Be great to see a photo of the zap, sounds nice. I like that you can just ring Cheyne up and talk about the fins and boards.
@@Crankinsurf7000 it’s day number seven surfing this Fin on the board I made listening to the principles of McCoy and Cheyne putting my own theory around it. The consensus is it’s addicting. Right now I don’t want to serve anything else. I even have a short clip of me at TOPANGA serving the board on the cam on my Instagram
You have the fin in your board back to front... Try it the other way around
I know bud, I just put it in for reference, not to go surfing
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Cool video. I made my version of a Cheyne Horan's Starfin, puting a fcs2 base. It works really nice.
Sounds great, hows it go??
I had one but sold it. One issue was the thin winglets nearly gutted me during a closeout because they are quite sharp. Second, there isn't any guidance about the angle to have it installed. You usually need to pack a fin and minor adjustments will lean the fin forward or backward and change the attack angle of the wings. Didn't know the angle to set it.
Angle of attack should be neutral. Just fit and go. Angle is set by fin box which should be flush with hull. You are in a dynamic rolling ball energy field, not a jet fighter.
It’s backwards in the box
Cheyne also had a "loop" fin - like a circle.
Think I remember them, he has been a leader in fin design for many years now.
I tried one numerous times on a 9Foot mal with little success. The fin kept getting snagged in the kelp and leash kept getting rapped around the fin. I noticed the board kept stalling every time I tried to catch a wave, as if the fin was causing the nose to stall just at the crucial last strokes. I’m sure having the right tail has heaps of difference in how the board performed.
I shaped a board to go with the fin, a round tail similar to what Chenye surfed at Bells including how the tail rocker was with the vee. It'd be hard with kelp. I've used it up to 7ft board and was ok.
The leash catch is a bit of a pain. BUT I have one in a 10' board and has two upsides.
Quick pivot style turns and adds stability, which is especially noticeable in the white water. Not that surfing white water is a thing, but it demonstrates the effect well.
Any fin can gut you. Fif the speeds surfboards travel at sharp foil edges are in necessary. Dull them off with sand paper and wetsuits will last longer.
Oh sorry didn’t look at all the other guys giving you shit.
So called star fin makes NO sense on a surfboard. They are.designed for creating lift on the keel of a boat, which travels differently in the water than a surfboard.
I had them on two boards back in the day, and they create drag, not lift.
When returning to standard fins, it was like night and day.
It was pure marketing hype, and cheyne horan was never a bright spark.
It's a fin that works for some but not others. When I got this fin I spoke to Chenyne about the boards he rode it with, so I shaped a board to go with the fin, not the other way round. The vee in the tail really helps get the most out of them, a neutral bottom lets the fin do the work. I just made a new 7/4 x 21 single pin and it works great with it, feels like it drives it, I'll do a video.
Ya I agree l liked the idea but never worked for me. For boats ok it’s proven but board, too many variables
@@DaveMannigel .It was more about hype and marketing around Ben Lexcen than actual R&D into what works.
But as far as "R&D" concerning surfers, I think using that term may be too flattering.