Man im glad you made this video. Playing PG in Rec is not fun because of the blitzing and passing lane steals. Most of my turnovers are due to not being able to get out of animations or a dude teleporting to get a steal.
lol yall be throwing the most predictable passes then be mad when ya turn it over 🤣🤣 I hope they don’t patch the steals so I can continue to average 3.5 steals 😁
the sickest most nastiest part of this whole RNG debacle is that they don’t separate it. i say that to say the shooting drills in mycareer are FUCKIN HORRENDOUS..
I was going up for a dunk on a break and dude reached through the small of my back and stole the ball. Also bad defense is rewarded on rebounds. A running start towards the rebound gives a way higher jump than the person boxing out and the runner is getting rewarded for bad positioning.
I couldn't agree with you more. I'll also add that over the past couple years, 2k has made it harder to recover on shooters if you even stunt on defense. ESPECIALLY against the computer.
Also is it me or is it hard af to shoot on corners? I can shoot extremely good on the wing,but when I hit those corners it's like I have no rating. The shooting is inconsistent. I can only really shoot good on the wings and in front of the goal,but then I try to create Hotspots on the corners and it's just cold af.
Me and the homies won a stupidly hard rec game and deleted the game, it just doesn’t feel rewarding enough to stay, this game is rewarding brain dead playstyles, like why can you turn real player percentage on for layups and start making HEAVLY CONTESTS without timing, that should never be a thing💀
Man, I’m glad I found your video. I just feel like they should take all badges out the game if you bucket you a bucket, plain and simple I just hate the bad defense and this guy you can be wide open and someone is 5 feet away from you when you shoot it they make your jumpshot slow or fast and it’ll say contest shot and they’re nowhere near you. It’s like how is the shot contested and they’re not even near you or someone drives and you jumped off for the ball you all over them and it says open and they make the shot like I don’t understand it. I’ve had games where I’m going 100% from the three and I get a takeover and just start missing or I’m shooting horribly but I’m playing good defense and get a take and just all of a sudden start making it. I don’t understand why they does that. I wish they should’ve never added the low risk and all that I feel like everyone should be able to green every shot free throws and etc I’ve seen people make 44% and less and people miss 91% I also hate you blow past someone and all of a sudden they just reach and somehow steal the ball from behind you or you blow past a big man you got him by two or 3 feet and he just somehow warp in front of you and block the ball or you have a guard down low And you try to drive on them this thing you know the guard make you change your animation or they just so happen to steal the bar from you. Everyone is constantly reaching before you even pass the ball in again Bump steals and everything so it’s just like man. What kind of game is this free loading people just take off soon as the ball goes up, make the big man make a full court pass deep to the corner over someone head like this is not real gaming. I just feel like they should change everything up quit sucking up to the the ones that try to explore the game or try to do all the spamming canceled this canceled out of this and just listen to the casuals who just wanna play a good game like you said match making is horrible. I also hate going into the wreck and it’s for you so you get a AI and they go against a full team like how is that matchmaking
I think it’s so weird how all of a sudden Mike Wang changed the shooting to RNG, because he doesn’t like how successful we were at shooting. But they want us to have a “skills gap”?! Double minded dawg😵💫
I finally found my people omg. I shot 75% last year my homies shot around 50%. They literally added RNG so players like me will be close in % as my casual homies. They’re rewarding brain dead people for pressing X on defense and rim running
Also is it me or is it hard af to shoot on corners? I can shoot extremely good on the wing,but when I hit those corners it's like I have no rating. The shooting is inconsistent. I can only really shoot good on the wings and in front of the goal,but then I try to create Hotspots on the corners and it's just cold af.
He's not making it casual he's saying it but not doing it ifthe regulars are leaving because of the mechanics and other things why would a casual stay or play. Casuals want fun not skill gap try hards@@ImChrisJones92
Another thing thats funny is the computer automatically shoots a three every time it tries to go inside and score but if it sees a teammate open it will pass out to that player the reason for this is the developers encourage close games
Another thing is bad with perimeter defense is sometimes people get random charges and you barely even move. You don’t even have to hold turbo to get a charge called on you. I got a charge called on me for standing still and catching a ball and dribbling one time. I didn’t even go nowhere. I just dribble the ball one time and it was a charge.
The problem with the contest statement is in this game even when you in the defender face and jump it says open when it should be smothered or if it is smothered they still green it just fine
EXACTLY. Last years contest system was PERFECT. I could green Red contests consistently bc I was a sweat and knew my jumpshot. My friends couldn’t do it even with the same jumpshot bc they weren’t as good. There’s no skill gap at all. Who tf idea was it to go from 1-100% contest to “light, open, tight, very tight” it’s the laziest shit I’ve ever seen. 2k24 shooting was literally perfect it had a green window.
i think lane steals that involve your player bursting should not be possible without adrenaline bars. the problem is that the ppl that arent actually good at lane steals can just stand in the lane and spam square until a pass comes and they will get a good animation regardless of how many bars they spent already
My ngg you ain’t lying B.. this some bs indeed, I don’t feel a difference between my lock with 83 3ball, and my Playshot with a 94 3ball.. other than the fact I can’t do them fades as good as the 94, yet.. might as well make that playshot a 83 3ball and the rest of those on defence.. I understand they trying some shit to “cancel” them zens.. but this ain’t it! I’d rather face them zens and try stop them getting open or contest them.. than this bs. Might as well go real player % on the 94 3ball.. matter of face imma try that tonight and see if I it really that less than high risk. 😂 if it still is around 45/50% that go in.. imma keep it on bc why not at that point..
I found out. Timing a plug steal correctly, is to misstime it on purpose. I get behind the back plugs alot, with this launch animation we had allready in 24. Before it was patched. When u press the button when the Ball is unprotected, you only swiping air like 4/5 times or it's a fouls.
You should see how my computer controlled teammates play defense they stand out of bounds or stand far away from the basket and just watch the other team get the rebounds and when the other team is coming up the court they get out of the way and let the computer go straight up the middle to the basket it's like watching the red sea part in that 10 commandments movie
I just switched to the rhythm shooting yesterday & i noticed improvement in my shot percentage instantly.I would have 1/5 games, but after the switch I even hit contested shots due to me being a 6’10 forward with 85 3pt so i just shoot over any build smaller than me now. Still hoping shot contest gets buffed tho.
Do I believe the shooting/defense needs buffs/nerfs? 100% none of those back/neck breaking steals should happen, at the same time 2/2 shouldn’t mean I miss that 3rd shot. There was a YT short from 2K labs testing gold poster versus legend paint patroller and the gold poster was still winning 50% of the time. Attributes should matter more than the rng, 95 standing dunk on a 7ft shouldn’t be taken out of a contact dunk because of a 6’6 guard, multiple things need to be fixed and time will tell if they do it correctly or not
I always say that 2k logic will tell you that mugsy bogues just standing in the paint is enough for Shaq to miss a dunk. In reality Shaq would season, deep fry, and eat mugsy in the paint. I don't get 2k defense. I get that offense sells but asserting dominance on defense is even better to me. It feels like nothing matters besides badges.
@@Cloudiroth7 my problem is that I played against a 7’3 95 overall and was able to contact dunk the hell out of him with 90standing and being 7ft, but I go against a 6’10 75 overall and I can’t get anything against them.
The steals are pathetic, and the passing animations are slow asF. Bad combination. I had 89 pass acc and couldn’t even throw the ball down the court. Now I just put 65 pass acc and put the points into other useful categories.
I actually don't care about the crazy cornerback style interceptions. It's the fact that they slow your pass down so the person can get there that peaves me. You should be able to cancel a pass when 2k tries to screw you like that you like that.
"bad steal attempt" should definitely be a thing if bad block attempt is. especially beacuse the game will give you "bad block attempt" on jump contests that turn into turnovers because the guy tries to pass out of it
That most lethal shot you took in this video was pointing out...what's the point of attributes on your 3-pointer if the game is handicapping your efforts. Like why even go 99? If you and a person with an 83 3-ball are being curved by the RNG at all...let alone at the same rate. You can shoot from red badge limitless once a game... maybe...because you hit some shots earlier hugging the the 3-point line before you got the super delayed takeover perk. Because you can't make too many shots in a row. Meanwhile they'll let people dribble spam, dunk, set screens, rebound out of position, and reach for steals all game with complete impunity to RNG.
I’m a 91% win percentage player. The problem is 2k creates metas. If you don’t have a small guard with a center with legend rebound chaser then you’re kind of at a disadvantage. You can’t pull up on comp with a 6’10 Giannis build and be feared. All the top players are literally 5’9 - 6’3 they don’t focus on all aspects of the game as long as all builds can’t be utilized this game will forever be like this
i mean nba players might do that if they were playing 5 minute quarters. definitely would lead to significantly more intense d. now that makes me think what would a 12 minute quarter game mode look like 😂. cuz u gotta think : overall stamina isnt even a factor in online play but its a huge factor in real basketball competition. with that said i dont think anyone wants to spend an hour in a rec game. would be kinda cool if there was a comp mode that had longer quarters and allowed subs tho. would lead to way more interesting lineups than the usual one way pg with 3 locks and a paint beast
You say steals are overpowered but in that second possession there were 5 steal opportunities that just weren't used until the SF went against the smallest guy in the paint.
The fact this was your comment tells me , you are the one who benefits from spamming and you watched this video just to critique something instead of listening to what’s being said…. Smh
@@ImChrisJones92 you mad because I listened to your point and watched the clip? Nah I'm just someone who loves 99 pass acc and gets away with dangerous passes. There were a lot of dangerous passes in the second clip...
i mean i going to meet in the middle spamming should be punish, but I don't think leaving someone wide open is consider bad defense if the player can't hit the shot. look at the thunder strategy in guarding pick and rolls since they are willing to leave guys open to provide help defense for the big. ever heard of help the helper. or when the Miami heat playing defense, you know why there are really aggressive in helping in the gaps now if two guys get the same amount of looks and one converts at a significant gap then the other on open looks then yeah rng needs tuning
Stealing the ball is one of the hardest things to do in the nba, meanwhile 2k says if you have 99 steal you should get super steal animations 😂 running legend 99 steal or 99 strength is ridiculous the cap should be 90 and as your player develops then he can have a 99 steal. Not just a 99 right off rip. 2k always promotes non talent and wants cheese in the game
10:26 the thing I’ll say is this, since 2K19 I have averaged 15 boards a game at minimum per Center or even PF that I make, mostly playing rec random. Yes the stats are inflated but the bigger issue is that the RNG causes the stats to be inflated. It’s not because “half of the community is trash or really good at rebounding.” It’s because 2K messed with shooting, I just played a rec random game and shot 4/5 from the 3 and 8/11 from the field, before the update this morning (like an hour or so ago) I shot routinely 1/2 1/3 1/4 from the 3 in games after I shot 3/3 4/4 5/5. The rng is what it should be based off stats of the player, imo I like the shooting but I do miss green or miss, it rewards good timing and perfect timing but chastises horrible timing🤷♂️
@@ImChrisJones92 what I didn’t state and now that I hadn’t and seeing your reply is that this year I’m averaging just over 18 (18.4) rebounds a game but I’ve seen averages of 20+ multiple times
Honestly might sound crazy i don’t mind it because everyone misses. if u know what shots to take u can easily shoot 60-70% a game just play with a good rebounder you should be good 😭
@@ImChrisJones92 i use a 6’9 build with a 84 three and a 92 midrange i run 2s and 1s with a 90 win percent i would say just fade twos and when your takeover is up to the third bar u can fade threes easily when u miss ur center just gets boards kick out
If someone has an upgraded steal then yes they should be able to be superhuman because that means they sacrificed something else. If someone has a low steal they should barely be getting steals especially if it’s below the 70 threshold.
So what about the people who invested in high dribbling ? If the handle is 96 and the steal is 94 , according to your logic, you should never still the ball .
@@ImChrisJones92 When a 90+ steal meets a 90+ ball handle then they should cancel each other out (Unstoppable Force meets Immovable Object concept) and make both people average while in the presence of one another. Both dribbling and stealing should be timed based though. You shouldn’t be allowed to spam dribble or spam the steal button. A person with a 90+ steal should have an easier time stealing the ball from everyone with a lower rating than them and anyone with a high ball handling should be better at navigating defense of those with lower defense. It’s as simple as that.
I honestly don’t think this game will ever be fun until they get rid of people playing zone. Allowing them to spam stealing with no consequences. Making small guards vulnerable. Don’t care about your attributes you shouldn’t be finishing over bigs 7 foot and above who have interior and high block. Love this game but it’s getting stale and boring. 5 out pick n roll with a hint of 2-3. No originality. Don’t get me started with shooting.
2:12 i swear to you, i played against a full 5 that played this way in random rec not too long ago. 9 turnovers off of brainless spamming blitzing me. We still beat them but gah lee!! And the random dribbling your player does is something you can turn off
How you casual because you choose not to preorder 2k 😂, look like yall who preorder it more disappointed about the game than the people who got it later so who really lost out?
@@ImChrisJones92 nah you a goofy 😂 who reaching beloved it's cool though you bought the same exact game as everyone else just got it early to be playing the same exact game just underwhelmed by the game you preorder sounds like a L you took meanwhile I didn't preorder because I had no high expectations on this game and guess what I'm actually just vibing in the game cause I've accepted that 2k going always disappoint players like you 😭😭
You not wrong about the RNG aspect at all but I believe they balanced that with the fact they you can make shots even if the opponent got a good shot contest .. also NGL I only think players with 84+ three ratings should be automatic when wide open because that mirrors real life I believe
@@ImChrisJones92 they’ve exploited my love for basketball long enough. I feel like that battered beat up wife who’s finally gonna leave the abusive husband
Unpopular opinion, if someone has a 90+ steal (Me, a lock), they should be flying around the court getting steals. I don’t want steals to be “nerfed” and become impossible just to have everyone trash on locks or builds that have a higher block or steal. If I have a 94 steal and you’re dribbling WITHOUT a single speed boost or anything, I should be snatching that from you a few times. A “few” can vary but the point still stands. It CANNOT get to rewarding bad dribbling again.
If you have 94 steal in 2k25 that is gold glove , if a handler has 92 handle that’s gold unpluckable . If you rip him a “few “ times how do you think you got that rip ? If you have hof interceptor , and misjudge and hof versatile visionary pass , why should you warp to get the steal ?
@@ImChrisJones92 I understand what you’re saying but granted in your example, my steal rating would rule out if they’re dribbling terribly or if I’m sliding enough to get said steal since the rating itself is higher. If you MISJUDGE then sure, you shouldn’t get the steal but I shouldn’t be tipping the ball instead of catching it if I do time it. Since both badges are on HOF, that’s an even playing field and that should break down to other things like IQ and off ball movement among teammates.
It is not bad defense to help in the paint and allow a wide open 3. It was past 2k's that were faulty for allowing players to hit 60%+ from 3. There is a feature on NBA's website then go to stats and league leaders. I watched all of Kyle Korver's field goal attempts from his first 5 games of the 2015 NBA season and he was maybe making half of his wide opens. I would argue that bad defense is to keep allowing the 2 on dunks and only care about the 3... Finally, some people love defending the paint, dunking, and rebounding like so many HoF centers like Shaq, Gobert, Hakeem, Kareem, Dwight, Andrew Bynum, Dennis Rodman, Capela, etc... Why does 2k always keep catering to guards by allowing them to hit every single 3 they "time" but never allow the bigs to actually be able to guard the paint and back their matchup down and dunk on their head like Shaq or Dwight?
Because this is a badge system , if you want to be like Shaq you need to have high strength , dunk, and post control , like on the highest level . 96-99 then you would . Expecting that with 90-94 ratings is not wise .
If players knew how to space the floor that blitz wouldn’t even matter we could make the open pass and they would get lit up I only like it a little bit so these “dribble gods” think twice before the dribble the air out of the ball
A blitz is a risk reward play, even with perfect spacing in nba 2k25 the defense will blitz , because they have a higher chance of getting a steal because of the animations this game has and that player they left open has a higher chance of missing because of the RNG . Which in turn rewards the bad defense
I get what you’re saying but we’ve seen Ben Simmons hit open threes when he’s by himself, we are in a game some nba schemes are to let people shoot if they are not making it 😂 They will live with Westbrook shooting, players like Aaron Gordon , at the end of the day if the players are not hitting their shots is it really bad defense or a good game plan
@@Rozaylay bro idc if you have a 99 three if you can’t time your shot you getting the treatment, it’s definitely capable to hit a open three When they touch the shooting and it’s bad like last year everyone is gonna cry, same thing happened beginning of 2k in 2k24, y’all couldn’t shoot and complained then they ruined the game
😂😂😂 I’ve been playing 2k since 2k11. At this point it’s comical seeing the community spend 100s of dollars for the same trash game year after year. You deserve the trash game you get. You paid for it.
@@ImChrisJones92 I didn’t buy the game, but I do pay attention to the state of the franchise. My grievances with 2K are not based on emotions, they’re based on facts. As soon as 2K or any other company for that matter, releases a good basketball game, I will buy it and support it. So what’s your point?
And yall still buy the game after they haven't fixed what's been an issue since 2K14 like , why am I surprised to see this is still happening . The bamboozle is real . 🤣🤣🤣
@@ImChrisJones92 how so, when Im playing h2h I should have increased chance of hitting a shot if im able to generate a open look. The devs have put together a game that manufactures a “realistic” outcome not factoring the actions I perform in the game. i agree with majority of your points because I felt the same way about the game last year.
Man im glad you made this video. Playing PG in Rec is not fun because of the blitzing and passing lane steals. Most of my turnovers are due to not being able to get out of animations or a dude teleporting to get a steal.
Every turnover is like that at this rate
Facts. It’s been rewarding bad defense for years now. I can’t wait for them to patch passing lane steals. Dudes are getting superhuman interceptions.
This year is the worst year of that play style in my opinion.
lol yall be throwing the most predictable passes then be mad when ya turn it over 🤣🤣 I hope they don’t patch the steals so I can continue to average 3.5 steals 😁
Yeah, I know the player grading system always punished you for playing help defense.
Especially considering computer teammates NEVER fought screens.
@@jonathandiggs7819your just spamming !! Not timing it
@@22xxjoshxx22 lol how you telling me how I play the game lol I don’t spam yall just more predictable then 3 year old toddler lol
the sickest most nastiest part of this whole RNG debacle is that they don’t separate it. i say that to say the shooting drills in mycareer are FUCKIN HORRENDOUS..
I believe it
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I was going up for a dunk on a break and dude reached through the small of my back and stole the ball. Also bad defense is rewarded on rebounds. A running start towards the rebound gives a way higher jump than the person boxing out and the runner is getting rewarded for bad positioning.
Facts it's like I have cement blocks on my feet meanwhile they're prime blake griffin jumping
See? You understand this video …..
I couldn't agree with you more. I'll also add that over the past couple years, 2k has made it harder to recover on shooters if you even stunt on defense. ESPECIALLY against the computer.
I agree. It’s as if there’s a force field around them or you to where u can hardly move.
A computer will light you up if you stunt .
And yes the game penalizes what I call the “ bait defense “
Also is it me or is it hard af to shoot on corners?
I can shoot extremely good on the wing,but when I hit those corners it's like I have no rating.
The shooting is inconsistent. I can only really shoot good on the wings and in front of the goal,but then I try to create Hotspots on the corners and it's just cold af.
@@southernswagg84I think it has to do with a badge on 2k when your player is stuck when a pass is going out
That’s good you shouldn’t be able to stunt 24/7 irl if you do that you’ll get lit up
Me and the homies won a stupidly hard rec game and deleted the game, it just doesn’t feel rewarding enough to stay, this game is rewarding brain dead playstyles, like why can you turn real player percentage on for layups and start making HEAVLY CONTESTS without timing, that should never be a thing💀
Ngl I use real player percentage cause imma center I’m not timing every layup the layups are so bad man
Never
@@Unc654why would you even wanna time the layup in the first place it isn’t even worth it
@@Unc654the standing layup timings are so ridiculous
Bro you deleted the game wtf 🤣
Man, I’m glad I found your video. I just feel like they should take all badges out the game if you bucket you a bucket, plain and simple I just hate the bad defense and this guy you can be wide open and someone is 5 feet away from you when you shoot it they make your jumpshot slow or fast and it’ll say contest shot and they’re nowhere near you. It’s like how is the shot contested and they’re not even near you or someone drives and you jumped off for the ball you all over them and it says open and they make the shot like I don’t understand it. I’ve had games where I’m going 100% from the three and I get a takeover and just start missing or I’m shooting horribly but I’m playing good defense and get a take and just all of a sudden start making it. I don’t understand why they does that. I wish they should’ve never added the low risk and all that I feel like everyone should be able to green every shot free throws and etc I’ve seen people make 44% and less and people miss 91% I also hate you blow past someone and all of a sudden they just reach and somehow steal the ball from behind you or you blow past a big man you got him by two or 3 feet and he just somehow warp in front of you and block the ball or you have a guard down low And you try to drive on them this thing you know the guard make you change your animation or they just so happen to steal the bar from you. Everyone is constantly reaching before you even pass the ball in again Bump steals and everything so it’s just like man. What kind of game is this free loading people just take off soon as the ball goes up, make the big man make a full court pass deep to the corner over someone head like this is not real gaming. I just feel like they should change everything up quit sucking up to the the ones that try to explore the game or try to do all the spamming canceled this canceled out of this and just listen to the casuals who just wanna play a good game like you said match making is horrible. I also hate going into the wreck and it’s for you so you get a AI and they go against a full team like how is that matchmaking
Made the courts bigger and shrank them with passing lanes.
It’s so ridiculous
I think it’s so weird how all of a sudden Mike Wang changed the shooting to RNG, because he doesn’t like how successful we were at shooting. But they want us to have a “skills gap”?! Double minded dawg😵💫
I think he’s making the game a VERY casual … to the point where someone on this game can have HORRIBLE timing yet still have a chance to make a shot …
I finally found my people omg. I shot 75% last year my homies shot around 50%. They literally added RNG so players like me will be close in % as my casual homies. They’re rewarding brain dead people for pressing X on defense and rim running
Also is it me or is it hard af to shoot on corners?
I can shoot extremely good on the wing,but when I hit those corners it's like I have no rating.
The shooting is inconsistent. I can only really shoot good on the wings and in front of the goal,but then I try to create Hotspots on the corners and it's just cold af.
He's not making it casual he's saying it but not doing it ifthe regulars are leaving because of the mechanics and other things why would a casual stay or play. Casuals want fun not skill gap try hards@@ImChrisJones92
Another thing thats funny is the computer automatically shoots a three every time it tries to go inside and score but if it sees a teammate open it will pass out to that player the reason for this is the developers encourage close games
Another thing is bad with perimeter defense is sometimes people get random charges and you barely even move. You don’t even have to hold turbo to get a charge called on you. I got a charge called on me for standing still and catching a ball and dribbling one time. I didn’t even go nowhere. I just dribble the ball one time and it was a charge.
Sure does happen !
LITERALLY THESE LANES ARE THE MOST INSANE IVE EVER SEEN IN ANY 2K😳😭😭💔
The problem with the contest statement is in this game even when you in the defender face and jump it says open when it should be smothered or if it is smothered they still green it just fine
That is INFURIATING
EXACTLY. Last years contest system was PERFECT. I could green Red contests consistently bc I was a sweat and knew my jumpshot. My friends couldn’t do it even with the same jumpshot bc they weren’t as good. There’s no skill gap at all. Who tf idea was it to go from 1-100% contest to “light, open, tight, very tight” it’s the laziest shit I’ve ever seen. 2k24 shooting was literally perfect it had a green window.
i think lane steals that involve your player bursting should not be possible without adrenaline bars. the problem is that the ppl that arent actually good at lane steals can just stand in the lane and spam square until a pass comes and they will get a good animation regardless of how many bars they spent already
This is true .
I would add the steal animations when u hold the stick, it’s literally impossible to get contact dunks and u can’t even really get a layup up close
My ngg you ain’t lying B.. this some bs indeed, I don’t feel a difference between my lock with 83 3ball, and my Playshot with a 94 3ball.. other than the fact I can’t do them fades as good as the 94, yet.. might as well make that playshot a 83 3ball and the rest of those on defence..
I understand they trying some shit to “cancel” them zens.. but this ain’t it! I’d rather face them zens and try stop them getting open or contest them.. than this bs. Might as well go real player % on the 94 3ball.. matter of face imma try that tonight and see if I it really that less than high risk. 😂 if it still is around 45/50% that go in.. imma keep it on bc why not at that point..
I agree .
If you can perfectly time your shot but the game makes you miss , then why not use real player percentage.?
I found out. Timing a plug steal correctly, is to misstime it on purpose.
I get behind the back plugs alot, with this launch animation we had allready in 24. Before it was patched.
When u press the button when the Ball is unprotected, you only swiping air like 4/5 times or it's a fouls.
That’s the most annoying thing. Just flailing around and luck up on a steal .
Mistime the reach = get a steal .
Make it make sense
You should see how my computer controlled teammates play defense they stand out of bounds or stand far away from the basket and just watch the other team get the rebounds and when the other team is coming up the court they get out of the way and let the computer go straight up the middle to the basket it's like watching the red sea part in that 10 commandments movie
I just switched to the rhythm shooting yesterday & i noticed improvement in my shot percentage instantly.I would have 1/5 games, but after the switch I even hit contested shots due to me being a 6’10 forward with 85 3pt so i just shoot over any build smaller than me now. Still hoping shot contest gets buffed tho.
Everything is open in this game … even when you get good shot contest.
Do I believe the shooting/defense needs buffs/nerfs? 100% none of those back/neck breaking steals should happen, at the same time 2/2 shouldn’t mean I miss that 3rd shot. There was a YT short from 2K labs testing gold poster versus legend paint patroller and the gold poster was still winning 50% of the time. Attributes should matter more than the rng, 95 standing dunk on a 7ft shouldn’t be taken out of a contact dunk because of a 6’6 guard, multiple things need to be fixed and time will tell if they do it correctly or not
I agree
I always say that 2k logic will tell you that mugsy bogues just standing in the paint is enough for Shaq to miss a dunk. In reality Shaq would season, deep fry, and eat mugsy in the paint. I don't get 2k defense. I get that offense sells but asserting dominance on defense is even better to me. It feels like nothing matters besides badges.
@@Cloudiroth7 my problem is that I played against a 7’3 95 overall and was able to contact dunk the hell out of him with 90standing and being 7ft, but I go against a 6’10 75 overall and I can’t get anything against them.
The steals are pathetic, and the passing animations are slow asF. Bad combination. I had 89 pass acc and couldn’t even throw the ball down the court. Now I just put 65 pass acc and put the points into other useful categories.
😂😂😂 I felt like that knowing I been boxing up with 50 perimeter defense and 50 steals but I am a lockdown so I thought it was just me
This game be getting over .
Can we talk about the offense rebounding is so OD this year lol
They are
Glad I got the sense to put my offensive rebounds high up knowing ppl can’t score lol
My dawg 🤝
Know this
2k does this DELIBERATELY..so we make one build and then make another to adjust to trash game mechanics.
And they get me every year …. 🤦🏾♂️MULTIPLE TIMES….
@@ImChrisJones92This
U got to turn that random dribble animation feature off in the settings
I’m going to find it today
I actually don't care about the crazy cornerback style interceptions. It's the fact that they slow your pass down so the person can get there that peaves me. You should be able to cancel a pass when 2k tries to screw you like that you like that.
"bad steal attempt" should definitely be a thing if bad block attempt is. especially beacuse the game will give you "bad block attempt" on jump contests that turn into turnovers because the guy tries to pass out of it
I agree
That most lethal shot you took in this video was pointing out...what's the point of attributes on your 3-pointer if the game is handicapping your efforts. Like why even go 99? If you and a person with an 83 3-ball are being curved by the RNG at all...let alone at the same rate. You can shoot from red badge limitless once a game... maybe...because you hit some shots earlier hugging the the 3-point line before you got the super delayed takeover perk. Because you can't make too many shots in a row. Meanwhile they'll let people dribble spam, dunk, set screens, rebound out of position, and reach for steals all game with complete impunity to RNG.
Tell me about it 🙄
Rewards bad defense , bad shotters and bad dribblers , the game reawards bums basically
The game started doing that years ago when they did their best to stop ppl from being blown out.
@@jehoshualewis2525 exactly
I noticed this around 2k19-2k20 when bad players started being able to jam and rim run to get fluke wins … never used to happen in older 2k
I thought the adrenaline shit they added was to stop steal spam … but you can spam without adrenaline and still get good steal animations
If it worked like it was supposed to the game would no longer be “fun “ to the dark side
If it worked like it was supposed to the game would no longer be “fun “ to the dark side
I’m a 91% win percentage player. The problem is 2k creates metas. If you don’t have a small guard with a center with legend rebound chaser then you’re kind of at a disadvantage. You can’t pull up on comp with a 6’10 Giannis build and be feared. All the top players are literally 5’9 - 6’3 they don’t focus on all aspects of the game as long as all builds can’t be utilized this game will forever be like this
Your about to be surprised by the videos you are going to see on this channel .
really good video
Gotta turn off passive dribbling bro you’ll have full control after that
2k really need to fix defense bro why do I have 90 defense and dudes still walk thru me like I’m not there😂
Do you have strength ?
@@ImChrisJones92 I got enough for physical finisher bronze
So since more shooting badges activate when a shot is contested, people have resorted to just not guarding the shot?
Stay tuned …. All of this will make sense in these next coming videos
They don’t even care about basketball nomore because nobody is getting 10+ steals a game nor is a defender blitzing the ball handler every play etc 😂
Apparently leaving shooters open is a form of good defense too , according to some idiots who walk this earth. 🤷🏾♂️
i mean nba players might do that if they were playing 5 minute quarters. definitely would lead to significantly more intense d. now that makes me think what would a 12 minute quarter game mode look like 😂. cuz u gotta think : overall stamina isnt even a factor in online play but its a huge factor in real basketball competition. with that said i dont think anyone wants to spend an hour in a rec game. would be kinda cool if there was a comp mode that had longer quarters and allowed subs tho. would lead to way more interesting lineups than the usual one way pg with 3 locks and a paint beast
Everything this man said in this video is so true 😂
You say steals are overpowered but in that second possession there were 5 steal opportunities that just weren't used until the SF went against the smallest guy in the paint.
The fact this was your comment tells me , you are the one who benefits from spamming and you watched this video just to critique something instead of listening to what’s being said…. Smh
@@ImChrisJones92 you mad because I listened to your point and watched the clip? Nah I'm just someone who loves 99 pass acc and gets away with dangerous passes. There were a lot of dangerous passes in the second clip...
💯, completely agree with these issues
Thanks for pointing this bs out bro
i mean i going to meet in the middle
spamming should be punish, but I don't think leaving someone wide open is consider bad defense if the player can't hit the shot. look at the thunder strategy in guarding pick and rolls since they are willing to leave guys open to provide help defense for the big. ever heard of help the helper. or when the Miami heat playing defense, you know why there are really aggressive in helping in the gaps
now if two guys get the same amount of looks and one converts at a significant gap then the other on open looks then yeah rng needs tuning
Keep playing the game bro you’ll see it
Keep playing the game bro you’ll see it . Then you’ll understand the frustration
Stealing the ball is one of the hardest things to do in the nba, meanwhile 2k says if you have 99 steal you should get super steal animations 😂 running legend 99 steal or 99 strength is ridiculous the cap should be 90 and as your player develops then he can have a 99 steal. Not just a 99 right off rip. 2k always promotes non talent and wants cheese in the game
And that’s why I have stopped playing it online .
I agree,,,
On ball defense is trash only thing good is steals
Facts but they nerf that every year 😂
Wassup chris
Yoooooo
10:26 the thing I’ll say is this, since 2K19 I have averaged 15 boards a game at minimum per Center or even PF that I make, mostly playing rec random. Yes the stats are inflated but the bigger issue is that the RNG causes the stats to be inflated. It’s not because “half of the community is trash or really good at rebounding.” It’s because 2K messed with shooting, I just played a rec random game and shot 4/5 from the 3 and 8/11 from the field, before the update this morning (like an hour or so ago) I shot routinely 1/2 1/3 1/4 from the 3 in games after I shot 3/3 4/4 5/5. The rng is what it should be based off stats of the player, imo I like the shooting but I do miss green or miss, it rewards good timing and perfect timing but chastises horrible timing🤷♂️
I agree with your assessment
@@ImChrisJones92 what I didn’t state and now that I hadn’t and seeing your reply is that this year I’m averaging just over 18 (18.4) rebounds a game but I’ve seen averages of 20+ multiple times
Honestly might sound crazy i don’t mind it because everyone misses. if u know what shots to take u can easily shoot 60-70% a game just play with a good rebounder you should be good 😭
So what’s the point of getting open then ? Might as well just shoot whatever whenever
@@ImChrisJones92 i use a 6’9 build with a 84 three and a 92 midrange i run 2s and 1s with a 90 win percent i would say just fade twos and when your takeover is up to the third bar u can fade threes easily when u miss ur center just gets boards kick out
all facts in this video - all of them
If someone has an upgraded steal then yes they should be able to be superhuman because that means they sacrificed something else. If someone has a low steal they should barely be getting steals especially if it’s below the 70 threshold.
So what about the people who invested in high dribbling ? If the handle is 96 and the steal is 94 , according to your logic, you should never still the ball .
@@ImChrisJones92 When a 90+ steal meets a 90+ ball handle then they should cancel each other out (Unstoppable Force meets Immovable Object concept) and make both people average while in the presence of one another. Both dribbling and stealing should be timed based though. You shouldn’t be allowed to spam dribble or spam the steal button. A person with a 90+ steal should have an easier time stealing the ball from everyone with a lower rating than them and anyone with a high ball handling should be better at navigating defense of those with lower defense. It’s as simple as that.
They did in 24 as well
At least in 24 people didn’t get penalized for good timing
@@ImChrisJones9224 just had a pure green window but now it’s not in 25 due to 2k hack detection sucking ass
Spoke all facts
I honestly don’t think this game will ever be fun until they get rid of people playing zone. Allowing them to spam stealing with no consequences. Making small guards vulnerable. Don’t care about your attributes you shouldn’t be finishing over bigs 7 foot and above who have interior and high block. Love this game but it’s getting stale and boring. 5 out pick n roll with a hint of 2-3. No originality. Don’t get me started with shooting.
That other side of the community is the reason for that .
Need a build video
Unfortunately I have too many builds . I don’t know which one actually works
@@ImChrisJones92 dam ok bro , I bet you end up maining you playmaker tho for the rec lol
2:12 i swear to you, i played against a full 5 that played this way in random rec not too long ago. 9 turnovers off of brainless spamming blitzing me. We still beat them but gah lee!! And the random dribbling your player does is something you can turn off
8:54 this is why 24 was great
I got graded out of a game because I got blitzed and spammed
I definitely appreciate 24 more now
How you casual because you choose not to preorder 2k 😂, look like yall who preorder it more disappointed about the game than the people who got it later so who really lost out?
You just made my point …. Only a casual person posses the mentality you do …..
@@ImChrisJones92 nah you a goofy 😂 who reaching beloved it's cool though you bought the same exact game as everyone else just got it early to be playing the same exact game just underwhelmed by the game you preorder sounds like a L you took meanwhile I didn't preorder because I had no high expectations on this game and guess what I'm actually just vibing in the game cause I've accepted that 2k going always disappoint players like you 😭😭
You not wrong about the RNG aspect at all but I believe they balanced that with the fact they you can make shots even if the opponent got a good shot contest .. also NGL I only think players with 84+ three ratings should be automatic when wide open because that mirrors real life I believe
They should definitely be automatic but they aren’t because of the RNG .
This the best 2k they made. Mfs gotta stop crying and get in the lab.
This sounds like crying to you ?
Turn off passive dribbling bro bro that’s for offline mode
Passive Dribble ?
In settings they have a passive dribble from left to right to add realism for offline sim guys, or casual play now; turn that off
I’ve already deleted the game 🤷🏾♂️
I honestly don’t even blame you bro …..
Damn son this shit sounds worse than 2k24 😂
It is
It’s 100% worse. 2k24 you could green in a pure green window. Now you don’t have a chance to green even if ur good and know your shot. Rewarding BUMS.
Better to go back for now until they change shooting
Honestly if 2k23 serves was better I'll still be on that playing. I actually enjoy 2k23 and 2k20
The purpose of playing a game is to have “Fun”.
2k is frustrating lol, so why tf do I even play it 😂?
Because you like basketball
@@ImChrisJones92literally bro if i didn’t love basketball i would never buy 2K atleast not every year
@@ImChrisJones92 they’ve exploited my love for basketball long enough.
I feel like that battered beat up wife who’s finally gonna leave the abusive husband
On contrary when you play good defense it seems like it doesn’t matter. These rec players be slashing like my center is 6’2
The paint defense needs to be revamped
Unpopular opinion, if someone has a 90+ steal (Me, a lock), they should be flying around the court getting steals. I don’t want steals to be “nerfed” and become impossible just to have everyone trash on locks or builds that have a higher block or steal. If I have a 94 steal and you’re dribbling WITHOUT a single speed boost or anything, I should be snatching that from you a few times. A “few” can vary but the point still stands. It CANNOT get to rewarding bad dribbling again.
I agree
If you have 94 steal in 2k25 that is gold glove , if a handler has 92 handle that’s gold unpluckable . If you rip him a “few “ times how do you think you got that rip ?
If you have hof interceptor , and misjudge and hof versatile visionary pass , why should you warp to get the steal ?
@@ImChrisJones92 I understand what you’re saying but granted in your example, my steal rating would rule out if they’re dribbling terribly or if I’m sliding enough to get said steal since the rating itself is higher. If you MISJUDGE then sure, you shouldn’t get the steal but I shouldn’t be tipping the ball instead of catching it if I do time it. Since both badges are on HOF, that’s an even playing field and that should break down to other things like IQ and off ball movement among teammates.
I’ve been leaving people open since 2k23 lol shooting BEEN like this
You’ve been playing bad shooters , and you probably lose games to good shooters because of your bad habits .
It is not bad defense to help in the paint and allow a wide open 3. It was past 2k's that were faulty for allowing players to hit 60%+ from 3. There is a feature on NBA's website then go to stats and league leaders. I watched all of Kyle Korver's field goal attempts from his first 5 games of the 2015 NBA season and he was maybe making half of his wide opens.
I would argue that bad defense is to keep allowing the 2 on dunks and only care about the 3...
Finally, some people love defending the paint, dunking, and rebounding like so many HoF centers like Shaq, Gobert, Hakeem, Kareem, Dwight, Andrew Bynum, Dennis Rodman, Capela, etc... Why does 2k always keep catering to guards by allowing them to hit every single 3 they "time" but never allow the bigs to actually be able to guard the paint and back their matchup down and dunk on their head like Shaq or Dwight?
Because this is a badge system , if you want to be like Shaq you need to have high strength , dunk, and post control , like on the highest level . 96-99 then you would . Expecting that with 90-94 ratings is not wise .
If players knew how to space the floor that blitz wouldn’t even matter we could make the open pass and they would get lit up
I only like it a little bit so these “dribble gods” think twice before the dribble the air out of the ball
A blitz is a risk reward play, even with perfect spacing in nba 2k25 the defense will blitz , because they have a higher chance of getting a steal because of the animations this game has and that player they left open has a higher chance of missing because of the RNG . Which in turn rewards the bad defense
I get what you’re saying but we’ve seen Ben Simmons hit open threes when he’s by himself, we are in a game some nba schemes are to let people shoot if they are not making it 😂
They will live with Westbrook shooting, players like Aaron Gordon , at the end of the day if the players are not hitting their shots is it really bad defense or a good game plan
All the players you name don’t have the 3 pt rating I stated in this video ………
Bro cap we not leaving curry ,klay or KD or heck porter jr open at the 3 you just names none lethal shooters. Which every is on 2k
@@Rozaylay bro idc if you have a 99 three if you can’t time your shot you getting the treatment, it’s definitely capable to hit a open three
When they touch the shooting and it’s bad like last year everyone is gonna cry, same thing happened beginning of 2k in 2k24, y’all couldn’t shoot and complained then they ruined the game
@@Rozaylay shooting is harder to prevent zens do you want to adjust or play cheaters
😂😂😂 I’ve been playing 2k since 2k11. At this point it’s comical seeing the community spend 100s of dollars for the same trash game year after year. You deserve the trash game you get. You paid for it.
And you still tapped into it ….🙄
@@ImChrisJones92 I didn’t buy the game, but I do pay attention to the state of the franchise. My grievances with 2K are not based on emotions, they’re based on facts. As soon as 2K or any other company for that matter, releases a good basketball game, I will buy it and support it. So what’s your point?
And yall still buy the game after they haven't fixed what's been an issue since 2K14 like , why am I surprised to see this is still happening . The bamboozle is real . 🤣🤣🤣
Just be grateful you got out
Yall buy this game every year just to complain about it.the definition of insanity
And you watch the videos , and leave comments about us “complaining “ so who’s really insane ?
@@ImChrisJones92 It's still you
“Simulation” will be the death of this game. These sim head need to stop projecting your hoop dreams through a video game and pick up a ball irl.
You have completed missed the point….. it’s sad
@@ImChrisJones92 how so, when Im playing h2h I should have increased chance of hitting a shot if im able to generate a open look. The devs have put together a game that manufactures a “realistic” outcome not factoring the actions I perform in the game. i agree with majority of your points because I felt the same way about the game last year.