How Alpha Omega CRUSHED All Hope In Treyarch

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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • Let's talk about how Alpha Omega CRUSHED all hope in Treyarch?! The Black Ops 4 life cycle was a wild ride and the Chaos Story was getting all the love and support, leaving the 10 year long Aether story finale to be left in the dust. Were the reimagining's intentional? We will never know. But despite the developers missteps regarding the content offering of Black Ops 4 Zombies, did Alpha Omega really deserve all the disdain it received on its launch day?
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    Intro 00:00
    Map History 03:30
    Map Retrospective 07:03
    Gameplay 28:10
    Side Modes 41:13
    Conclusion 43:35
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  • @ggemcee5903
    @ggemcee5903 2 місяці тому +466

    i dont hate the BO4 maps but the fact that every single ultimis/primis map is a remake is the biggest robbery i think we've ever seen in a zombies.

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  2 місяці тому +25

      It was definitely a bummer.

    • @NameAvailable
      @NameAvailable Місяць тому +12

      Tag is a lot more than a remake though, and even calling it a reimagining is a stretch. It’s a second map built on top of the previous one. It’s also absolutely gorgeous. I get what you’re saying, I think using a previously un-remastered, fan-favorite map as the skeleton for a new map is a solid idea

    • @birchtree8028
      @birchtree8028 28 днів тому +11

      @@NameAvailable that’s true but when all the other maps have been remakes it makes it feel lazy

    • @Daiyamaruu
      @Daiyamaruu 21 день тому +4

      @@NameAvailable i don't know about you guys but playing tag i never get myself thinkin "i'm playing call of the dead with a reskin"
      No, i'm playing Tag Der Toten.

    • @PmfSwavier
      @PmfSwavier 16 днів тому

      Shouldnt even hate it they wanted to end that story for the longest and yall kept begging for the Ultimis Group to come back so in actuality its yall the fans Fault

  • @kompst_tu
    @kompst_tu 2 місяці тому +453

    I feel like the VIBE of this map felt like classic cod zombies for once. It wasn't full of fantasy creatures and stuff, it was full of sciency, post-apocalyptic-ness and I loved every bit of it. It's just a shame that such a normal map had to be the endgame map for zombies.

    • @panzershreck8077
      @panzershreck8077 2 місяці тому +61

      It gave off that bo1, illuminati, lab secrets gone wrong setting the old games had that made them feel so special.

    • @twostepcowboys8073
      @twostepcowboys8073 2 місяці тому +20

      @@panzershreck8077if only it had bo3 systems and actual production man

    • @Sandman2000_HotTake
      @Sandman2000_HotTake 2 місяці тому +3

      It really does have great atmosphere, that’s why it’s in my top 5

    • @justiron2999
      @justiron2999 2 місяці тому +6

      Yeah it's just a shame that it's a recycled map from a literal decade but that's just how good treyarch used to be.

    • @GigalassII
      @GigalassII Місяць тому

      It wasn't the endgame map

  • @crazymarkiplierfan
    @crazymarkiplierfan 2 місяці тому +178

    I think Activision has ironically lost its "vision" of what they're supposed to be doing. They have no idea what they're doing. They'd actually make more money if they just let the developers do their job but they can't, they think the guys in suits in board offices know what's best and this is the result. Treating development teams like an NFL roster is not a great idea.

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  2 місяці тому +28

      I agree to an extent but I think the developers are more responsible than we give them credit. I see devs on Twitter all the time talking about how they are so proud of making garbage. Like Starfield was great example, or even Redfall. I see COD devs post about a bundle they designed and how proud they are of it.
      I just think the system is broke as a whole and it started during BO4. It has a lot to do with IW leadership, they have a lot of pull from what I understand and have destroyed Treyarchs reputation in the process of this Modern Warfare reboot.

    • @dth99times
      @dth99times Місяць тому +9

      I don't think it's Activision so much as it is Bobby Kotick's incompetent leadership, endless greed, and shortsighted thinking.
      I'm a massive CoD Zombies and Overwatch fan, and both were fucking eviscerated under his leadership. And the guy was awarded hundreds of millions of dollars for it.

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  Місяць тому +2

      If that's your line of thinking, which is fine, then you need to give him credit for every success as well. 2007 - 2017 COD and all diablo and overwatch, starcraft, etc.
      He can't be the lynch pin without being the genius as well. That argument doesn't work, unfortunately.

    • @dth99times
      @dth99times Місяць тому +7

      @@AfterlifeAnalysis it took him time to fire and override other members of management. He didn't instantly ruin the creativity in the company. He did it slowly, focusing on one area at a time.
      If you look at his individual decisions, you can see how his actions overall were to increase yearly profits at the expense of long-term value. His entire management strategy was "make more this year than last year at all costs." Why do you think so many of the passionate and quality devs/staff left over time? Listed reasons are often "creative differences" but the reality is "lack of creativity differences." The games slowly got worse to maximize profits, until they reached the point where they are today. Where maximum value is derived from each product, whereas anything creative with a goal of long-term player retention and happiness was abandoned.
      The people actually involved in making the quality experiences? Guess what, they've left the company. Although during the slow leak of talent, very few were actually dumb enough/had the guts to call out Kotick for ruining the products they put passion into, they still left the company.

    • @dth99times
      @dth99times Місяць тому +4

      Hell, hating Kotick has been a longstanding tradition for decades now given the terrible decisions he made. This isn't a brand new thing. He's been called out by gamers and members of the industry for a long time.

  • @zaratahanagi4924
    @zaratahanagi4924 3 місяці тому +107

    I love how passionate you sounded when talking about the narrative. More cod zombies fans need to appreciate it fr

    • @gaskinforeman303
      @gaskinforeman303 2 місяці тому +3

      Well.... Not anymore surely.

    • @panzershreck8077
      @panzershreck8077 2 місяці тому +5

      Cod zombie fans are now just mwz brain rotted drones.... Doubt they'd appreciate anything made in the past atp.

    • @drac6669
      @drac6669 2 місяці тому

      ​@@panzershreck8077Player from the new Zombies here, and am pretty sure i can love and appreciate the OG Story and maps and the new ones ;D.

    • @ordgaming4189
      @ordgaming4189 Місяць тому +1

      While I think the narrative was good, but my goodness it just got SO bloated. The other problem was the favoritism towards the OG characters, which while understandable, if you're making a story, they can't keep going forever.
      You either need to lose the characters, or lose the story.
      Losing the characters allows the story to keep flowing or have an actual ending and start a new one without getting stretched.
      Losing the story allows you to keep the characters without needing to worry about how things really make sense or not.
      Treyarch tried to leave the characters, and then the community whined. When we went back to remade maps to follow the story, people whined again.
      In my opinion, the maps and gameplay should always be the #1 priority, as most of the community doesn't do the easter eggs or go for high rounds, they want to be able to play the map for 20-40 rounds and be done.
      I don't really think more zombies fans need to appreciate the narrative, I think the die hard fans need to realize they don't make up anywhere near the majority of the fan base, and so defenses of the map being "well the story is good" or "you need to only open up certain doors and certain paths to make the map playable" don't hold anywhere near enough water.
      Hope this doesn't come off as hating rant against you, these were just some thoughts I had regarding it. Either way, hopefully we'll get some good content from the next COD for zombies.

    • @zaratahanagi4924
      @zaratahanagi4924 27 днів тому +1

      @@ordgaming4189 I agree with you on the majority tbh. Personally, the narrative and the EXTREMELY memorable and quotable characters are what i end up remembering the most and loving the most.

  • @Thechozochampion
    @Thechozochampion Місяць тому +85

    You can't be serious and tell me a Nuketown Zombies remake was intended to be the last Primis & Ultimis map, the OG plan was The Great War and Activision just fucked up the perfect ending

    • @zaspirite
      @zaspirite 18 днів тому +5

      Man we never got that Egypt map either i was still waiting for it honestly because that sounded so fuckin cool, and the ghiza being a giant mpd has been my headcannon since the beginning

    • @ItsjustBlackJackhere
      @ItsjustBlackJackhere 15 днів тому

      @@zaspiritewasnt the egypt map replaced with moon or shangra la?

    • @zaspirite
      @zaspirite 15 днів тому +1

      @ItsjustBlackJackhere Yeah it was. They then were gonna bring it back for origins but ended up going with the basically the previously scrapped France map they had minus some setpieces like the tower and now a new story around it IIRC.

    • @ItsjustBlackJackhere
      @ItsjustBlackJackhere 15 днів тому

      @@zaspirite at this point with how call of duty somehow keeps getting worse I legitimately cant tell why they’re failing theres TOO many reasons why

    • @zaspirite
      @zaspirite 15 днів тому

      @ItsjustBlackJackhere blame acti really. My theory is that Infinity Ward have no issue lying to us and doing what acti says with no compromise because everyone (not me doe) hated cod ghosts waaaayyy to much, theyve been punishing us since. Sledge has always kind of sucked, they get the short end of the dev stick but even then, they arent interested in making a cod game it seems like. Slavearch is acti bread and butter theyve been overworked for the past decade if we're being truly honest. Cod is changing/changed to a live service, the arcade shooter identity left a long time ago, thats where cod started declining

  • @dragonpits1799
    @dragonpits1799 2 місяці тому +49

    This is the most fair view on AO ive seen since the maps launch. I fell out of bo4 long before the dlc cycle even started, but when I came back to the game years later, AO was the first map i decided to beat because it was the most fun Aether map there was imo. Lots of what AO did was actually great for the narrative as you said, and while i totally agree what it did was overall good, i do feel everything it did was cut short by how little Tag Der Toten gave us while finishing it up. Bo3 ended with a really bland ending, but at least it felt totally finished. Bo4 made me feel like we were missing something HUGE that Treyarch really wanted us to experience (The Great War, most notably). And then on top of that Cold War brings BACK the aether story in some capacity, but then they just stopped doing that??? so now the story is left somehow more incomplete than it even was then.

  • @BobBob-up8fz
    @BobBob-up8fz 3 місяці тому +53

    Ah Alpha Omega. A map I've always overlooked.
    You make a fair point. If bo4's remaining budget wasn't sacrificed. AO and Tag could have been amazing.
    Comparing it to the other maps. Dead of the night was complex but enjoyable. Aincent evil was amazing. It's one of my top 3 maps.
    And Tag der toten. It was took a while to set up. But gameplay was simple. Train zombies, Thunder gun them. Etc.
    Ao just felt tedious and overly complex. From setting up. To building the mark 2 upgrades. To the soul box Easter egg. (Literally every step involved a soul box)
    AO had little room to innovate. Combine that with a reduction in budget. And a remake of Nuketown....
    It's just unfortunate. I bet treyarch would have smashed expectations if things had gone to plan.

  • @0vel
    @0vel 3 місяці тому +25

    The Johnyj25 of Alpha Omega

    • @Sandman2000_HotTake
      @Sandman2000_HotTake 2 місяці тому +2

      I put Alpha Omega in my top 5, so I think I’m the JohnnyJ25 of Alpha Omega

  • @jessechaffin3815
    @jessechaffin3815 2 місяці тому +6

    I gotta say bro, this content is high end stuff, especially seeing your still a small creator. I love zombies and this type of content. You’ve earned me as a sub, and congrats on almost being monetized you got this!!

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  2 місяці тому +3

      Thank you. I will be continuing to make retros, reviews, for Zombies and hopefully other franchises like Resident Evil, Dead Space, stuff like that. And we will cross other bridges with content as we go.

  • @BadMoody420
    @BadMoody420 3 місяці тому +7

    This was randomly in my suggested, and I’m glad it was! Bro this editing is awesome especially for someone with only 500 subs. You deserve a lot more recognition for these videos, super entertaining. You got a new sub, please do more zombies related content!
    EDIT: Just found your other channel, even at 16k you have some good editing and overall entertaining content. Even still, would love to see some more video essay content like this maybe on bo3, bo2, bo1, IW or WW2.

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  3 місяці тому +1

      I may be switching over to this channel. I am unsure. I am just doing some testing here. But yes you're right 500 or 16k, it's not really a ton of subscrib3rs. So I appreciate your kindness.
      And I will be working on other retros as well. I'm currently in the planning phase.

  • @jgRandomizer
    @jgRandomizer 3 місяці тому +13

    Super underrated, amazing content, keep it up dude

  • @hugoponce1560
    @hugoponce1560 3 місяці тому +2

    How come he only has 319 subscribers? This content goes above and beyond just gameplay and walkthroughs.
    Please keep going! New favorite zombies UA-camr

  • @Cowmanisgood
    @Cowmanisgood 3 місяці тому +227

    How does this only have 16 views

    • @evancaulk7692
      @evancaulk7692 3 місяці тому +9

      bc its a cheap reupload

    • @DanaRJabbaR
      @DanaRJabbaR 3 місяці тому +4

      What? Why

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  3 місяці тому +87

      Just so everyone understands this is my video. I reuploaded it to this channel bc I’m considering pivoting my content. And wanted to garner UA-cam data.
      I run Skeptix, I run afterlife and some other channels as well.
      I am just considering other options for UA-cam that’s all.

    • @A__340
      @A__340 3 місяці тому

      @@AfterlifeAnalysisWhat other channels? I like your style please share the other channels.

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  2 місяці тому +17

      @@A__340I’m slowly moving over to this channel. All the content you need is here. I recently changed to this style last year.
      If you’d like to check out my variety content it’s on a channel called The Bit.
      youtube.com/@thebit69?si=3V7FxxirtPdHm_2G

  • @ParagonHeadEsploder
    @ParagonHeadEsploder Місяць тому +1

    I get why the title is the way that it is, and I probably wouldn't have clicked on the video if it didn't make me mad as a BO4 fan but this is a good vid, great work! I hope you're able to get an audience off more zombies content, always need more people keeping this silly mode alive.

  • @mad_mikey-_-9770
    @mad_mikey-_-9770 2 місяці тому

    I just found ur channel and i am watching all these retrospecives from oldest to newest and i think retrospective videos have always been my favorite n zombies is my favorite so plz keep these going for all zombies maps 😊

  • @nathan2000100
    @nathan2000100 3 місяці тому +22

    DId you make this? Crazy good work man. I am just working on doing the AO ee so I guess that's why this popped up

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  3 місяці тому +9

      Yeah I made this video. I have a few different UA-cam channels but I am thinking about starting fresh over here with zombies.

    • @trevorphillips8895
      @trevorphillips8895 3 місяці тому +1

      @@AfterlifeAnalysiswhat other channels do you run? This is a great video

    • @laggydad4479
      @laggydad4479 3 місяці тому

      @@trevorphillips8895I believe this video is from his Skeptix channel

  • @deadatlas128_3
    @deadatlas128_3 2 місяці тому +3

    Thank god this got more views. The video quality is absolutely insane, I could watch these kinds of videos for hours. Pure love man, keep it up❤️🔥

  • @Thatguy27250
    @Thatguy27250 2 місяці тому +4

    The quality of this video is ASTOUNDING!! Keep making content bro!!

  • @jacksonpalafox5766
    @jacksonpalafox5766 3 місяці тому

    The fact that there’s more parts coming IS SO AMAZING thank you for the new zombies content!! 😆

  • @StraightQualityy
    @StraightQualityy Місяць тому +1

    i remember a long time ago i heard something about how they went to the comic book style cutscenes since data miners were finding the animations for the cutscenes only being confirmed with revelations when the cutscene was leaked before the map was released

  • @averylr32
    @averylr32 Місяць тому +1

    amazing video bro i wish i would of played this map but the biggest issue for me was lack of friends to play with and difficulty. i was never able to complete blood of the dead and didn't care for the other story line it was so difficult as a solo player that i just gave up on the mode. as many people dont like cold war i loved the zombies because it felt like the perfect balance of challenging but actually completable easter eggs as a solo player

  • @inferno1738
    @inferno1738 13 днів тому

    I really gotta say. These videos are very well done. Especially from how everything is paced and explained.

  • @LingDingKing
    @LingDingKing 2 місяці тому

    I loved this map so much, between blood and alpha I kept coming back to bo4 zombies. The story behind the map was great, a challenging but not ridiculously overwhelming easter egg like the other bo4 maps, and I personally loved the look and feel of it.

  • @thealandude9146
    @thealandude9146 День тому

    7:28 It honestly looks like you're are looking at some sort of promotion poster from 50s to 80s in present day with all the colours browned or yellowed, i like it

  • @unfoundedwraith4086
    @unfoundedwraith4086 3 місяці тому +3

    This is some of the best zombies content I’ve seen since bo3, keep up the good quality content bro I hope to see you big one day

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  2 місяці тому +2

      Appreciate it. Will be moving over to this channel and making retros for a lot of the series.

  • @opticalbeast4947
    @opticalbeast4947 14 днів тому +2

    Alpha Omega was a really good map. The only bad thing about it was that it was in BO4 where they messed up all of the zombies features.

  • @BOBINDUN
    @BOBINDUN 19 днів тому +1

    I really liked that they had both the crews on this map. That was really nice because the og crew is my fav.

  • @MemeNabber
    @MemeNabber Місяць тому +3

    It's unfortunate that even if AO was one of the best zombies maps it'd still not be particularly good. Because like every other bo4 map, its enjoyability is kneecapped by having the Bo4 systems, ui and experience

  • @spacedoctor6858
    @spacedoctor6858 7 днів тому

    I hope you do some of these videos for the BO3/CW maps!

  • @jeremym7483
    @jeremym7483 2 місяці тому

    This is a very high quality video, great work

  • @lambda1863
    @lambda1863 3 місяці тому +1

    This is incredible quality if you keep this up you will have millions of subscribers in no time

  • @maskn7208
    @maskn7208 15 днів тому

    Very good video, great job

  • @siz16
    @siz16 Місяць тому +2

    The fact that they couldn't get Malcolm McDowell back to voice Dr. Monty really sucks and leads me to believe that Treyarch never intended to continue the Aether story. Having to turn such an interesting and fan favorite character into a non-speaking background villain is so unfortunate.
    The ending scene of this map also greatly frustrates me because they once again talk about how they are off to fight the Great War... and then you don't. Everything is dropped as the perspective shifts to Victis in a reimagined Call of the Dead for the most wet noodle grand finale possible. Obviously, budget cuts and most of the staff being unexpectedly relocated to another game could never have been predicted, but it IS frustrating that we as fans are left with a rushed ending.
    I firmly believe that Revelations was meant to be the true finale of this story. Primis made the ultimate sacrifice to continue the cycle because they know there IS peace post Revelations and their souls get to live on in the form of their child selves. From a different, more meta perspective, the cycle has to continue because that's literally what the zombies game mode is. A never ending, unwinnable, cycle. You survive for as long as possible, die, and repeat the whole thing again.
    I understand that ending a haphazardly told, beloved storyline, is very difficult and they could never have appeased everyone. But a line had to be draw in the sand. It's clear to me that Treyarch wanted to move on with the Chaos story as that is where all the time, effort, and resources went. The newly introduced mechanics also made the most sense for the Chaos story. The specialist weapons, elixirs, and even some of the equipment are all designed with Chaos Story in mind. But because they caved to fan demand and walked back the Aether ending, we wound up with an unfinished Chaos story and a rushed Aether story ending.
    Anyway, great video! On to the next one!

  • @wesleyruppert1298
    @wesleyruppert1298 3 місяці тому

    Amazing Video!! Keep up the good work!

  • @jackhelsdown4753
    @jackhelsdown4753 Місяць тому

    Please keep going friend! Great videos 😁

  • @ruxwe
    @ruxwe Місяць тому +2

    I came into this vid thinking u were going to shit on alpha omega like any other youtuber because of the title but when I actually gave the vid a chance, this was one of the best reviews I’ve seen. The fact that you acknowledged how much restrictions Activision had and how they worked through that was outstanding and the fact that you went through the story and Easter egg was also nice. Best review I’ve seen on YT and I’m glad it’s finally someone not blindly hating the map because they’ve never played it

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  Місяць тому

      I genuinely love bo4. Just wish it went down a little differently.

  • @Sandman2000_HotTake
    @Sandman2000_HotTake 2 місяці тому +2

    Alpha Omega is easily the best BO4 zombies map, the EE is incredible, the boss fight can be a pain but it is really really cool, hearing how the Avogadro was created and the lore was amazing in Alpha Omega, the Ray Guns are the coolest Wonder Weapons all of time(especially the Electric one), the layout is fun and challenging(except when you do the boss fight because it’s so tight and I can’t move anywhere), Rushmore is the GOAT, and finally the 8 playable characters were incredible, top 5 zombies map for sure

  • @PraisetheSunn.-.
    @PraisetheSunn.-. 16 днів тому +1

    This map feels like a fever dream.

  • @emptytextbox2389
    @emptytextbox2389 2 місяці тому +1

    I really liked alpha omega and its easter egg as it wasnt just go fight a dragon demon hybrid thing, it was a boss we knew of and was iconic. The map went back to the original vibes of like bo1 and bo2

  • @shawnjackson3764
    @shawnjackson3764 22 дні тому +1

    As a low skill level, casual zombie fan, I really love the Alpha Omega concept of widening a PvP map. I really want that AO blueprint to be applied to other maps from Black Ops: Raid, Stringhold, Hunted, Combine, Magma, etc...

  • @inkrot
    @inkrot 2 місяці тому +2

    I just realized Rushmore is Clovis Bray from Destiny 2

  • @Straksis-
    @Straksis- Місяць тому +2

    I always did like the way the map looked, and the wonder weapons did always look sick. Might have to replay this at the start of summer break, which is at the end of school today. UPDATE: I played it, gotta say, I loved it. Granted, im no easter egg guy, but I love being able to loop zombies all over the place with the Laser Ray Gun. Loved it.

  • @unpaidprodigy0179
    @unpaidprodigy0179 7 днів тому +1

    It’s crazy how treyarch got so much done with activision fucking up everything

  • @WhereisYunoGasai
    @WhereisYunoGasai 2 місяці тому +1

    Loving the community

  • @Ezyduck
    @Ezyduck Місяць тому

    Lex lounge reaction vid for this about to be like an hour and thirty mins. Can’t wait lol and good vid by the way really good stuff 🫡💪🏼

  • @LateNightHalo
    @LateNightHalo Місяць тому +4

    TBH Alpha Omega was my favorite Treyarch map probably since the Zielinski days.
    Outside of the clumsy retcon of the Avagadro’s origins and the usual issues with Bo4’s core gameplay, I found it to be a pretty fun map.
    In general, I thought Bo4’s Aether maps (minus Blood of the Dead) had good layouts and a more “Black ops-y” atmosphere than the stuff in Bo3 and Origins. It’s just the core gameplay that was fundamentally flawed. The pacing, mechanics and extreme focus on “special” zombies really bogged it all down. I would have loved to play the map with Bo1 or a bo2’s mechanics and systems

  • @autumnparkblvd
    @autumnparkblvd 21 день тому +1

    I’ve done the Easter egg, but only thanks to the randoms in the lobby. Maybe I’ll play it for a few weeks straight and do everything the map has to offer

  • @TheKingErix
    @TheKingErix 22 дні тому +1

    I have a guilty pleasure when fans of zombies call out zombies creators for being lazy and not delivering. Like from the core it comes from a place of love and wanting to see the greatest heights for a series we’ve grown with. To watch it get dismantled and replaced with something that lacks passion is truly heartbreaking. We as a community need to push for the greater heights that we know can be delivered, celebrate it and then work to fix the problems.

  • @Spookiecherry21
    @Spookiecherry21 22 дні тому

    Something I hope to see in black ops 6 is inside the dark aether and maybe you find an shards or maybe echos of the original aether storyline giving us bits and pieces the Great War

  • @xproflipscarab
    @xproflipscarab 21 день тому +1

    Damn you did not just tell me that the Avagadro fight is one of the best...
    I just love getting hit scanned through a wall / debris while being forced to sit in small spaces with zombies hopped up on meth...

  • @boofbean4309
    @boofbean4309 2 місяці тому +2

    When the goat craig pulled out the script and it was stacks upon stacks omg they did their best, this map is great story is good and there is clearly still love put into it

  • @alexmason3939
    @alexmason3939 Місяць тому

    I remember me and my Buddy firing up this map for the first time. As usual we have taken notes before and written them down in handwriting. We prepare for something truly hard, like we are used from COD zombies, well more so bo3 less bo4.
    And then we accidentally completed this map on the first try... We have never played this map before... And never did since then. This was the last map I finished with my friend in years, until we recently started completing all the cold war maps out of fun.
    This map, for some reason made us not want to play anymore.

  • @hondsdollekat
    @hondsdollekat Місяць тому +3

    This map feels like a custom fan project, except you had to pay for it

  • @averagealoneredditor
    @averagealoneredditor 15 днів тому

    I am so pressed, because this is the upteenth time I hear a creator say "Check the description for the last video" or "Check the description for the playlist" and it's NOT there.
    Nothing against you, Afterlife, as I am enjoying this video already and this is the first video I've seen of your's. I just wanted to voice a fair criticism.
    Plus, your voice is nice to listen to, and you might be what I listen to work tomorrow.

  • @maxryan8086
    @maxryan8086 2 місяці тому

    Amazing video

  • @maxlgl8721
    @maxlgl8721 7 днів тому +1

    alpha omega is literally one of the best maps

  • @orengondal1034
    @orengondal1034 3 місяці тому

    Great video

  • @QuantemDeconstructor
    @QuantemDeconstructor 3 місяці тому +1

    Gotta say, Avocado was always my least favorite "boss" on maps, killing him felt unrewarding outside of the fact he'd be gone for a while, only being able to melee him instead of being able to use the guns I picked out for myself, and his abilities being more annoying than anything else, all of it just made for a really annoying "challenge" on specific maps.

  • @TheGlitched64
    @TheGlitched64 13 днів тому

    I didn't even know people hated this map, honestly one of my favourites from 4. Now, maybe that isn't a high standard, but the point still stands, in terms of just high round fun and stuff, yeah, this map is great.

  • @pdawg4209
    @pdawg4209 19 днів тому

    I never really got to play the dlc maps that much. I had the season pass but my friends didn’t and we were older and had other things going on in life so never really got to enjoy it like past maps. Sad to say tbh but that’s life I guess

  • @edkruse9541
    @edkruse9541 Місяць тому

    I remember hating Alpha Omega on release, but recently I took the time to go back in and really explore the lore of the map. I’d go so far as to say that the backstory of the map is one of the best in CoD Zombies and also one of the scariest. Pernell was a total MONSTER even before he was corrupted by Element 115 and it really makes the desolate “frozen in time” atmosphere of the map really scary. There’s this evil force that is so great that Broken Arrow set up a nuke like it was a Home Alone trap, and even that can’t stop Avogadro.

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  Місяць тому

      Great summary. 100% agree with you. I didn't "hate" it on launch, but I was bummed and confused.

  • @Mr_Ginge_
    @Mr_Ginge_ 10 днів тому

    Wait, 25:35 , I just realized there are 5 characters, is that two Takeos?

  • @perinamer1
    @perinamer1 6 днів тому +2

    This is the only map i managed to complete on this game, yet i remember jack shit about any of those steps lol

  • @Belacthemighty
    @Belacthemighty 13 днів тому

    I honestly was satisfied, and would've preferred to keep the loop that we had at the end of black ops 3. from every time I've said it online, and even in my own friend group i seem to be one of the very few with that option.

  • @draydarockstar362
    @draydarockstar362 2 місяці тому +1

    Finally learning the story of the s shiddd I was amazing I remember seeing him for the first time I was 10 and so afraid

  • @crimsonxdragon
    @crimsonxdragon 18 днів тому

    Thanks

  • @mr.bulldops_9352
    @mr.bulldops_9352 2 місяці тому +1

    I think the comic book cutscenes looked best on bo3 even tho it was only on DE. Bo4 made me feel like I had drunk goggles on

  • @gabrieldevoogel6225
    @gabrieldevoogel6225 Місяць тому

    I wish these remasters aside from Blood andTag Dee Toten had been extra content for the pass, and only gave tiny tidbits of story and just been the fun maps they always were without having such a weight on their shoulders

  • @VioletAeonSnowfield
    @VioletAeonSnowfield Місяць тому

    I'd probably be able to appreciate the BO4 Aether maps more if the Chaos maps didn't exist. Because I just...can't ignore the fact that rather than focusing on delivering a satisfying ending for the story we cared about; they split their attention to make a new storyline.
    To add insult to injury too, BO4 coincided with the tenth anniversary of Zombies - and rather than focusing on finalizing that story they'd been building for a decade...they were focused on this new storyline no one cared about?

  • @nerdodragonnerdpl4167
    @nerdodragonnerdpl4167 2 місяці тому +2

    Wanna know twist?
    This map will became beloved afther years

  • @FreedomHero4
    @FreedomHero4 2 місяці тому

    I feel like Treyarch never gets to fully realize something, whether it be from time constraints or Activision meddling or whatever else. I feel that if they never get dragged to other stuff they could at least fill in any gaps properly.

  • @morihui
    @morihui Місяць тому

    Does someone know the music ID at 3:00

  • @yeez13
    @yeez13 2 місяці тому +2

    I thought part of the problem was them outsourcing Alpha Omega and Tag Der Toten to a b-team (Treyarch/Activision Shanghai) and they were forced to rush it to meet deadlines 🤷🏽‍♂️
    It’s very easy to give developers the benefit of the doubt, but when you give such a high profile project like COD ZOMBIES DLC to a B-Team…you don’t exactly expect to get back the cream of the crop, do you? If you did…then I don’t know what to tell yah

    • @MyBadCuhz
      @MyBadCuhz Місяць тому

      That’s all but confirmed, several Zombie YTbers have stated as much, and the timeline of 3arc being forced to pick up development of Black Ops Cold War lines up perfectly with the post launch debacle.

  • @dariusdafigga
    @dariusdafigga 28 днів тому

    The fact that this map was a part of the trainwreck that was BO4 already doomed it if you ask me. As someone who has been playing zombies since WaW, this game had too much change for me and is one I don’t think I’ll ever even think about touching

    • @AfterlifeAnalysis
      @AfterlifeAnalysis  27 днів тому +1

      That's a shame. It's a great mode. But, hey, you do you. ✌🏻

  • @DarrienJohnsonn
    @DarrienJohnsonn 24 дні тому +3

    Okay hear me out, this map is get way too much hate but it still has it’s flaws, and also it definitely makes up for nuke-town zombies. Alpha Omega is what nuke-town zombies should have been.

  • @Diminisherrr
    @Diminisherrr 2 місяці тому +1

    36:53 Look at how cluttered and disgutingly distracting that HUD is. That's the main reason I couldn't stand to play BO4 past its first couple of weeks after launch.

  • @bryce1361
    @bryce1361 29 днів тому

    When it comes to B04 my issues typically aren't with the maps, it's with the gameplay/enemy types. Like I like the chaos storyline, maps, and characters but god damned so many of the extra enemies are just annoying/tedious. Not because they're too difficult, but because they just spam you with stupid effects. I understand what they were going for, but whish they would have skipped it. I probably would've enjoyed Alpha Omega if it wasn't for the Nova's

  • @Epicplayz10101
    @Epicplayz10101 2 місяці тому

    I love the idea of alpha omega, like the boss and the rayguns them selfs, but the thing is, like how to get the raygun variants, they just miss the mark too much

  • @Gorlami90
    @Gorlami90 13 днів тому +1

    I actually don’t hate this map

  • @DragonbornMike-ym2er
    @DragonbornMike-ym2er 6 днів тому

    Not a major details, but to me it's really disappointing that they introduced a map including Primus and Altimus. And they didn't use the opportunity to bring back grief, or just allow for an 8 player map.

  • @shotgun_daddy-1089
    @shotgun_daddy-1089 2 місяці тому +1

    The new areas were great but the middle of the map was terrible I wish they gave the middle of the map a complete new layout and since it was the same nuke town layout I quickly got bored of the map wish they would’ve showed the big drill in the map like in the original nuke town loading screen would of bin cool to see it drill into the middle of the map. It would have bin cool to maybe go inside of it man what could have bin. The map was honestly the biggest let down for me definitely missed the mark

  • @ThatsMySkill
    @ThatsMySkill Місяць тому

    i might go on a bit of a rant here. i know they wanted to start a new storyline with chaos and i didnt mind the idea of closing the old one off and starting a new one but they did it in such a weird way that it was just dead on arrival. pouring budget into a new storyline while the old one is still going and suffering in quality because of the new one left a bad taste in peoples mouth so they hated on chaos. like just the change of having full in game cinematics for all chaos maps but only having these low effort illustrated ones for aether felt so low quality. and then they took that as a "people dont like chaos because its bad" when in reality it was more of a "chaos isnt bad but the way it was introduced was bad". aether should have ended and then they should have introduced chaos either in the second half of the bo4 dlcs or in bocw. chaos had all the ingredients of what i loved about zombies. interesting mythology and especially the characters just being over the top caricatures just like ultimis and primis. i loved that. and now what do we have in bocw? a mediocre, comparably very grounded and stripped down shadow of the OG aether storyline with nostalgia baiting returning characters and campaign characters sprinkled in. im not a fan of bocw story at all and even less so with how vanguard and mw3 zombies continued that. i guess every story has to start somewhere but when you are used to crazy over the top stuff we had from bo2-bo4, bocw feels kinda bland. and these gigantic, godly, wannabe marvel villain beings in vanguard and mw3 zombies just dont hit the same as keepers and dr. monty. the apothicons were just as crazy but the lovecraftian nature of them made them very interesting and their mythology felt super cool. i hope this years zombies gives me more of the bo2-bo4 vibes back and dials up the craziness a bit more than bocw did but apart from gameplay, i really dont see how i can ever enjoy zombies again.

  • @connoriquada5429
    @connoriquada5429 2 місяці тому

    Amazing video but I still hate this map and I don’t think that will ever change unfortunately 😂

  • @themelancholia
    @themelancholia 3 місяці тому +14

    People upset over reused weapons, but the weapons function very differently. (Example: Tundragun being completely different and more powerful than the thundergun)
    BO4 also has more WWs than bo3 including chronicles, and has more special weapons, with upgrades. Also, it makes sense for a Broken Arrow facility to be in Nuketown, because of a Der Riese radio mentioning a Nevada base with a large supply of 115.
    BO3 reused a bunch of things. Dragon shield, Ragnaroks, Lil Arnies, Thundergun, Apothicon Servant, Panzer, Wunderfizz, perk system, and only introduced one perk, that was changed and improved in BO4.
    Fans mad cause BO4 is too different yet mad because of a lack of uniqueness. People love Kino and then hate on DotN. Asking for a MotD REMASTER and getting a vastly improved sequel and hating on it because no Jug and five years ago there were crashes on PS4. Cold War gets praise but it has half the maps and is unironically worse than WaW.

    • @quake_gti
      @quake_gti 3 місяці тому +2

      Agreed

    • @CERRYGREENBAY
      @CERRYGREENBAY 3 місяці тому +8

      You have good and bad opinions here. All I can say really.

    • @carbonvnt2256
      @carbonvnt2256 2 місяці тому

      Yerrr this mf knows what’s up, all I’m saying when I play this game on pc or ps5 it’s such a great time bruh. This zombies is my favorite for soloing Easter eggs because it’s the toughest of imo.
      IX ee is so ez,ngl I flop hard on the elephant fight sometimes. Man I could yap on forever dude ima just keep it short and sweet man

    • @godslight630
      @godslight630 2 місяці тому +3

      Tundragun was definitely not better than thunder. You’re crazy

    • @SaulGoodman3D2049
      @SaulGoodman3D2049 2 місяці тому +2

      You're stretching so hard to try to say BO4 is good it's actually hilarious. Like most of the things you say BO3 "reused" debuted in that game, or that the gun that froze zombies in place is somehow better than the gun that killed zombies instantly, or that Blood is "vastly improved" just because it added a few rooms despite taking out or ruining the unique mechanics. You should be a comedian.

  • @TrIsTAN-le1su
    @TrIsTAN-le1su Місяць тому

    Alpha Omega parallels Game of Thrones for me. Even if it was properly executed, the direction meant it was always going to fail. Treyarch completely mis-read chronicles success to mean 'we want remade maps' rather than 'we want remade maps on top of strong original maps' just like Black Ops 3 was. The cut budget then meant that rather than simply going off the rails, the train flipped upside and set on fire, and it came across as a betrayal to fans.

  • @onurbuken3641
    @onurbuken3641 2 місяці тому

    another problem bo4 zombies had was(imo) bo3 custom zombies. official work kinda didn't hold any candle to what modders did.

  • @raptorprimal1077
    @raptorprimal1077 Місяць тому

    Everyone's always remaking classics but I'm kinda sad and annoyed no one has remade bo4 maps into bo3 but reworked

  • @itzjustaz0313
    @itzjustaz0313 3 дні тому

    this map just gave fall out zombie dlc by Activision

  • @rjjitzu
    @rjjitzu 2 місяці тому

    Victus would've made AO a better experience whereas closing Tag w the Ultimus/Primis crew

  • @joshsjoshua5019
    @joshsjoshua5019 29 днів тому

    Alpha Omega was the only reason I thought about buying DLC

  • @m.kiyasat4363
    @m.kiyasat4363 2 місяці тому

    Almost everything you said was a compliment to the map and in the end you're like: alpha omega crushed our hope and crap😂
    I was like wtf😂

  • @KageTheKiwi
    @KageTheKiwi 2 місяці тому

    Just earned a sub, dude.. Let's play together at some point

  • @alexshevel2784
    @alexshevel2784 8 днів тому

    Nah Alpha omega was a 10/10 compared to all the other bo4 maps, it wasnt nearly as buggy as all the other maps and my friends and I spent by far the most time on this map than maybe any other zombies map but definitely any other bo4 map.

  • @SimonPetrikov12
    @SimonPetrikov12 Місяць тому +1

    So the nova bombers are just the blue catalysts in the chaos maps. The WORST catalyst zombie. What a terrible idea

  • @ZetsuboNoShima
    @ZetsuboNoShima 19 днів тому

    I actually really really like this map. With a few tweaks it feels like a bo1 map vibe wise. If it was the only nuke town zombies we had people would like it more

    • @turkey.3035
      @turkey.3035 18 днів тому

      Nah they just like to complain look how many times nacht der untoten has returned and no one complains.

  • @DaBigBlud
    @DaBigBlud 20 днів тому

    Only thing that bugged me with bo4 was that horrible UI it was so distracting to me for some reason

  • @xommonsensexd1229
    @xommonsensexd1229 Місяць тому

    i’ll never get over the fact that we never got a great war map, that should’ve been the conclusion but activision sucks

  • @afcapanos
    @afcapanos 22 дні тому

    I love this map …

  • @DeckiDance
    @DeckiDance 19 днів тому +2

    I loved this map never understood the hate. Have u played blood of the dead...

    • @turkey.3035
      @turkey.3035 18 днів тому +1

      This was a good map people just enjoy complaining but when cold war remakes nacht der untoten once again people are like this is awesome its like how many of that map do we need 1st waw then bo1 then bo2 in tranzit then bo3 then black ops cold war and no one complains about that ngl i think this was one of the better bo4 zombies maps.

  • @jeremym7483
    @jeremym7483 2 місяці тому +1

    Alpha GOAT-mega