With all due respect, the Leek is a light-duty knife at best. You would never try to hard-use a Leek.. The results of this test do not surprise me in the slightest.
***** CS test all their knives this way. They are just comparing competitors knives that are similar in size & weight to their standard tests they do on ALL their knives. Heck, the CS knife is lighter weight than the Leek & doesn't even have any metal liners. Bottom line is, a weak lock is a weak lock no matter what knife it is on. I'm not a CS fanboy, I don't even own any of their knives...yet. But, what I have learned from watching these great videos it that the CS knives have one hell of a locking mechanism. No way to dispute that.
Tim Schmidt I like CS and own many....BUT a weight hang test is kind of silly (imho) and does not prove that a liner lock, integral frame lock, bolt lock or bearing lock etc. is a poor choice. It all comes down to build quality and using the tool for it's intended purpose.
Iron Barr I see these knives like I see other weapons, you don't look down upon a pistol for not being able to hit a target a mile away; you just realize it's not going to do the job.
***** If all you had was a Leek when you needed a knife, you'd use it for whatever situation came up. This is why versatility and reliability important. Anyhow, these videos mostly just prove some common misconceptions wrong, such as "It's a locking folding knife, it'll never close on me!".
Just ordered my holdout 3 in ctsxhp today. I went back and forth between the spyderco native 5 lightweight and the holdout 3. They are very similar in weight and blade geometry (full flat ground). That triad lock though it strikes again haha.
We have yet to see a button lock tested in the Cold Steel gauntlet. I'd love to see the Hogue EX-01 aluminum handle button lock with manual safety tested. Thank you!
Cold Steel, the following comment has nothing tondo with this specific video but it refers to the Kukri machete. I bought the machete from Academy sports and outdoors. I was using it in my yard when I had to cut a branch down. The branch was fairy sturdy and my blade got a decent chip in it. I can give further details if you want me to. Should I attempt to repair it with a steel mallet to flatten it back out. Thank you. I love your products an demos.
What do you guys recommend to take into the bush as a replacement for an axe? The latin machete, jungle kukri or magnum kukri? Or do you guys have better ideas. I just can't decide!
I like cold steel but I also really like my leek. Tip broke off so I made it into a modified Sheeps foot. Spring assist finally slowed after years so I took it out and found out the spring was broke almost all the way through. It still goes with me on duty though.
I'd love,to,see you test the buck 830 marksman with the straplock I think it will do well maybe even beat a triad not sure but I think it could be close
I wonder if the older style Liner lock Leek like I have would have passed. I could not BELIEVE the leek passed those spine whacks. its a slim gentlements folder at its toughest. My first knife I every bought haha.
What does back pressure matter? That’s cold steel trying to sell a product to people that’s not in the real world, we use knives in our hands cutting edge down with force, not cutting edge up and force not being a smartass but this test is about the strength in backward motion am I missing something ?
@@jamesstrickland2872 Well... cold steel kinda markets most of their knives for "hard use" and when you are chopping, or hitting stuff, theoretically you could back swing into the spin, and the knife closes on your fingers... so its meant to be more "safe"
Well... it's a first comparison that has totally failed. Leek is a gentleman-light-duty-office-knife or whatever you wanna call it. It has a handle made out of steel because it's supposed to be elegant not because it's tough or practical.
I always loved my Kershaw Leek. Great little knife for the price. Really smooth and satisfying opening mechanism, nice weight and fit in the hand. Very good sharpness out of the box. I need to get another because the tip broke off my last when using it how I shouldn't have been.
How about you test the Tri-Ad Lock against its older brother, the Back Lock ? ( I know you already tested an Extrema Ratio Fulcrum 2, it's just that I would like to see you testing a more classical design, something like the Buck 110, without any extra safety)
Yo cold steel. ZGB sent me on over. Didn't thibk to see if y'all had a channel. Absolutely god like job on that polymer shorty. How much tensile strength does it have? Also how much flex can it receive before full ant total failure? And I'm sorry for the unrelated talk on this vid. That is a really nice knife good lock from what I understand. But why nit tighten it down with two bolts? Would that invalidate the force a human hand could apply to it?
you guys should test the new tiger claw folding karambit vs emerson folding super karambit. they're almost the same weight as well. As well as test the ti lite, I'm curious how something other then the amazing tri-ad would do.
How can people say you are biased, you just did Kershaw leek a favor: a small, flimsy looking knife which didn't break after 5 spine whacks. How many previously tested non-coldsteel knives survived spine whacks?
I'm a big fan of yours. you have great creative potential. Keep it up. my dream is to have a knife straight from you. Unfortunately the price. But I understand. Thank you for your contribution in the world of knives. Cheers Petr Krejčí. Czech Republic.
Cold steel is awesome and they know exactly what there doing with there products good job Lynn Thompson cold steel is and always will be my favorite and go to company for knives
Brian Smith I mean, isn't the normal-size Recon 1 more comparable in size? I know the standard Cold Steel guard/handle-to-cutting-edge-offset makes the Recon 1 have more reach than the Endura, but aren't they otherwise comparable? I've seen the Code 4 compared in length to the Endura, but I don't know how similar in size the mini Recon 1 is to the Code 4.
Brian Smith What about the American Lawman or the Ultimate Hunter? It seems like those are the more comparable in length to the Endura than any of the Recon 1's. I would say the Hold Out 2 is the most comparable.
Dear cold steel I am a fan of your machetes but I would realy like to see a heavy less flexible version of all of them for people who need to do more than just clear light brush and branches Anyways thanks for reading this if u did
I appreciate the tri ad lock In the fact that it's so strong but I can't like it. the opening just doesn't feel as good a Framelock running on bearings and there's no flippers. If there was a tri ad lock flipper that would be awesome I know it's probably impossible tho
Haven't seen a new video in a while. I was getting spoiled! I'd like to see you Test the Rat Worx MRX. It cost $300. I bet the chain and spring fail the spine whacks, and lock fails at 135lbs. Certain youtube people swear by that knife. Not saying who but prior to the rat Worx this person carried a CS American Lawman.
Get a Chris Reeve and test it.. Everyone says if you collect knives you should get a Chris Reeve but he basically makes the exact same knife every time.
is it possible to test a sebenza sometime...i think its a bit of an overrated knife...its beautifull...its well designed but the best folder out there?....lets see the lock first
+piet jansen It would lose to a Cold Steel easily. If I had to do a job with a knife, I much sooner grab a Cold Steel... but I much rather carry a Sebenza. The Sebenza warrants it's popularity, it is almost a cornerstone of the higher end knife world. It has been around for over 20 years, was the first knife to popularize the frame lock, and in many ways was one of the first modern, single locking bladed, one hand opening, pocket knives. It is built to a very high level of quality and designed to last generations, heavy use is not what it was ever intended for.
i understand the craftmanship of a sebenza...its a well designed knife as i said...fact is that i never saw it go through some serious testing....sebanza is for showing your friends at a party or putting it on display...cold steel is for opening a can of fruit when no can opener is around...cold steel is for batoning when no fixed blade or axe is around..ive done things with my recon folder thats never been done with a sebenza...if its done...do tell me or better yet...show me
piet jansen Yeah I would never use a Sebenza for that, same reason you would not pick a Ferrari to go off roading with. When I know I am going to be using my knife a lot one day, I tend to grab one of my Cold Steels as well. But in general I carry my ZTs, Bokers, Spydercos, Al Mar, ect.. more. I do not own a Sebenza, yet at lest.
i understand and respect that...but we probably buy knives for different reasons...im more a prepper kind of collector...so if i only have a folder...i want it to be able to do lots of things
piet jansen I would never buy a knife just for show. My non-Cold Steel knives may not hold 300Lb... but in my many years of carrying knives, I have never had to even put 10Lb of pressure on one. All of my other knives are just as strong and capable in practical use. Cold Steels are good though for heavy use because it is good to have that buffer zone in case something extremely unexpected happens.
I would love to see how Cold Steel compares to some of the customs out there I think they would do wel,l if not better, than some of the pricy customs that are out there.
+ninja29mv Comparing a production knife to a custom knife is pointless. The performance will be similar and go back and forth in different categories, they are both just knives. If someone is looking for a good utility EDC, they would be stupid to buy a customs. Customs are a lot more than just a knife for use. It is like comparing a Toyota to a Rolls Royce. Or a poster to a hand painted master piece. The kind of person who buys a custom is not buying it for the performance.
I dont think it would be pointless, I honostly believe that the performance of the Triad lock would trump A LOT of customs out there, I understand theres a certian point where your going for art and precision, but theres people out there that think you need a custom for this type of performance.
Im interested in the heavy use militaristic style customs, I've been doing the knife thing for some time now im curious, I understand why customs are priced the way they are.
What I'm saying is when you get a "Royce" ,for example, you get a sexy car but you ALSO get 560+ hp straight off the line you know what I'm saying? or you can get something more affordable ( that may even look better in the beholders eyes) with even greater hp maybe like a zl1camaro or gt500
ninja29mv I fully agree that strength wise the Tri-add will out perform just about any custom, besides ones with dead bolts or Andrew Demko customs (the designer of the Tri-add). The one performance area that customs will completely beat Cold Steel with is edge retention though, CTS-XHP is a great steel, but it is not going to hold a candle to something CPM-M4, 20CV (Cold Steel does make one knife in this steel), s90v, ect... People who buy customs are really not concerned with performance, and a lot of them would full out agree that production knives from Cold Steel, Spyderco, Benchmade, ect.. may be more practical or better performing. People buy customs for their collection, because they enjoy the craftsman ship, exclusivity, just to be a part of the community, ect...
You know, the deployment of your triad lock knives still isn't as good as all of these knives you've tested against. You guys should make the wave feature standard on most models.
they are 2 vastly different locks, obviously a framelock wont hold up to a triad, a benchmade acces lock would have been a better comparison. The knives may look "similar" but they really arent...
construction wise i think most chinese clones and low budget knives are built sturdier than most kershaws under $75. just...flimsy. i'm disappointed, spent good money for otherwise good designs. got 2 more cs on the way though. can't wait for the 4" talwar and the long awaited finn wolf to kick my voyagers and code 4 out of the pocket. around the neck though it's a tie (no pun intended) between all the mini tac models. cs - going strong!
Tactical X-Rays I agree, I have quite a few cheap folders and they passed testing way better than a Blur. But hey, at least the Blur is "ultra smooth" and you have to put like, zero effort into releasing the lock! I mean, we all have rubber fingers, right! So hard to use fingers. No offense to those who actually have issues using their digits, but they usually aren't the ones complaining. They should probably get an Arc-lock folder.
"People requested to see this comparison". Lol. What do you knife newbees expect to see happen? Everybody knows that the triad lock is extremely STIFF and strong. "If they can't pass these tests with flying colors, they are not put into production", in the first place. Once again apples and oranges are being compared. I have all three Holdouts in Aus 8, and a couple of Leeks. The Leek is a classy, gentleman's knife, used for light cutting. It has a wharncliffe blade, and a needle sharp tip that you he to be careful with. The Leek is a collectable, CLASSIC available in many colors, handle materials, and steels. The Hold Out is no Leek. It is an excellent, small, hard use knife that used to be affordable, in Aus 8. Unfortunately, now it costs $70+ due to the "requested" steel upgrade. You can still find the 3 inch Aus 8 model for $25-$30 if you hurry.
WTF are you doing that with a LEEK? I didnt need a test to know the leek would get destroyed, all you need is to hold the thing and youd know. It's a thin, lightweight, light duty knife.
+Eric Jonas Yep, leek is a basically a glorified box cutter, thin light weight knife for light cutting. My brother breaks down boxes all day and carries one. Its not even meant for heavy duty work xD Aluminum frame and a THIN ASS blade... Might as well compare a scalpel to a European Long Sword... Should of compared it against the 1870 knockout or 1678 camber.
well i have a folding knife its a everyday carry but its a full joke its gonna broke if i hit someone i wanna buy cold steel product but im on a budget if someone can head me of to something cheap and godd
I only trust Cold Steel knives because I have a blood disorder. Weak and dull knives scare me in the same sense that a low platelet count does. These other manufacturers are really scaring me in the facet that they do not seem to care about their products in the same way that the Cold Steel team does.
Dude most of the review your standing so far away we cant see what your talking about. Why would you stand 10 feet from the camera so we can't even see what the knives look like. Come on dude why are you waisting people's time!?
Can you tell your stupid camera man to zoom in on the weight tests? You can't see the blades when he's zoomed out, it's a test about the blades after all right?
These videos are blahh, to long, p.s. I put a 60$CS leatherneck tanto vs 20$Scheffield Rouge, blade to blade and just smashed them together tit for tat, and the tanto broke in half!!! Still choping down trees with the rouge. To each his own!
Most useless test yet! CS keeps outdoing itself with completely worthless tests, especially against the Leek. And funny how CS has suddenly become a steel snob, given they have always been way behind in that department.
***** and you alienated yourself from the knife community in the process with a nonsense lawsuit and gimmicky tests (how about a cut test?). I own several CS knives and have always thought the quality was good and I am a person who spends a lot of money on my knife collection. But hey, that is the free market and I have chosen not to invest in CS products anymore.
***** the problem is you ask too much from a knife. I don't think I've ever heard anyone soon they're looking for a knife I can hold 600 pounds. In one another very trusted company comes along you guys just try to tear them down
With all due respect, the Leek is a light-duty knife at best. You would never try to hard-use a Leek.. The results of this test do not surprise me in the slightest.
***** CS test all their knives this way. They are just comparing competitors knives that are similar in size & weight to their standard tests they do on ALL their knives. Heck, the CS knife is lighter weight than the Leek & doesn't even have any metal liners. Bottom line is, a weak lock is a weak lock no matter what knife it is on. I'm not a CS fanboy, I don't even own any of their knives...yet. But, what I have learned from watching these great videos it that the CS knives have one hell of a locking mechanism. No way to dispute that.
Tim Schmidt I like CS and own many....BUT a weight hang test is kind of silly (imho) and does not prove that a liner lock, integral frame lock, bolt lock or bearing lock etc. is a poor choice. It all comes down to build quality and using the tool for it's intended purpose.
Iron Barr I see these knives like I see other weapons, you don't look down upon a pistol for not being able to hit a target a mile away; you just realize it's not going to do the job.
*****
If all you had was a Leek when you needed a knife, you'd use it for whatever situation came up. This is why versatility and reliability important. Anyhow, these videos mostly just prove some common misconceptions wrong, such as "It's a locking folding knife, it'll never close on me!".
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Worth mentioning the Leek is also american made at $47. Another good video. Really like these.
jrh5808 Don't let your buddies open paint thinner cans with it though :{
Patrick2345454 Break the tip off? Me too, stuck it into a pallet (not my finest moment) and broke it off...
dethklokicksbutt It's a good knife, just not made for heavy use.
Patrick2345454 I second that
+Patrick2345454 Definitely a great EDC, delicate work blade with how thin it is overall.
Not really sure where the comparison is, one is a light use folder, the other is a hard use tactical blade... But still fun to watch!
Just ordered my holdout 3 in ctsxhp today. I went back and forth between the spyderco native 5 lightweight and the holdout 3. They are very similar in weight and blade geometry (full flat ground). That triad lock though it strikes again haha.
We have yet to see a button lock tested in the Cold Steel gauntlet. I'd love to see the Hogue EX-01 aluminum handle button lock with manual safety tested. Thank you!
Cold Steel, the following comment has nothing tondo with this specific video but it refers to the Kukri machete. I bought the machete from Academy sports and outdoors. I was using it in my yard when I had to cut a branch down. The branch was fairy sturdy and my blade got a decent chip in it.
I can give further details if you want me to. Should I attempt to repair it with a steel mallet to flatten it back out. Thank you. I love your products an demos.
This was a bad comparison. You should have used the AUS-8 version of the Hold Out because it's closer price-wise.
***** Too bad... it was good steel.
They aren't comparing price in this test.
Hive Mind They weren't, but the aus 8 version is much cheaper and has the same strength which means that the whole test would be even more impressive.
What do you guys recommend to take into the bush as a replacement for an axe? The latin machete, jungle kukri or magnum kukri? Or do you guys have better ideas. I just can't decide!
TheSkywayBridge I love the idea of the 2h machete but the steel isnt thick enough for my taste, but then i suppose I'd just get an axe instead.
***** Anything longer? I'm 6'4" so I can handle heavy and I love the idea of the latin machete plus, but not sure if it's up for axe replacement.
***** And machetes aren't good for axe things?
+TheSkywayBridge the spartan :p
I payed $81 for my Hold Out II, and I'm lovin it!
I like cold steel but I also really like my leek. Tip broke off so I made it into a modified Sheeps foot. Spring assist finally slowed after years so I took it out and found out the spring was broke almost all the way through. It still goes with me on duty though.
I'd love,to,see you test the buck 830 marksman with the straplock I think it will do well maybe even beat a triad not sure but I think it could be close
I wonder if the older style Liner lock Leek like I have would have passed. I could not BELIEVE the leek passed those spine whacks. its a slim gentlements folder at its toughest. My first knife I every bought haha.
What does back pressure matter? That’s cold steel trying to sell a product to people that’s not in the real world, we use knives in our hands cutting edge down with force, not cutting edge up and force not being a smartass but this test is about the strength in backward motion am I missing something ?
@@jamesstrickland2872 Well... cold steel kinda markets most of their knives for "hard use" and when you are chopping, or hitting stuff, theoretically you could back swing into the spin, and the knife closes on your fingers... so its meant to be more "safe"
When the Cold Steel Swift will be available?
Compare the tri ad lock with dpx gear hest!
Time to take on a certain "world's #1 hard use knives", I think...
Cold Steel, when are you going to start shooting new videos of your 2015 line? The year is half over already, fans are waiting.
Well... it's a first comparison that has totally failed. Leek is a gentleman-light-duty-office-knife or whatever you wanna call it. It has a handle made out of steel because it's supposed to be elegant not because it's tough or practical.
albi131 agreed.
I always loved my Kershaw Leek. Great little knife for the price. Really smooth and satisfying opening mechanism, nice weight and fit in the hand. Very good sharpness out of the box. I need to get another because the tip broke off my last when using it how I shouldn't have been.
albi131 , 100% Correct! Thank you!!
Test a sebenza 21 :p also would love a Buck 110 vs. Large voyager
"So we have one more", ha you crack me up man! Any way to do a torsional rigidity test in the future?
How about you test the Tri-Ad Lock against its older brother, the Back Lock ? ( I know you already tested an Extrema Ratio Fulcrum 2, it's just that I would like to see you testing a more classical design, something like the Buck 110, without any extra safety)
You guys better test the adamas/Emersons/ more hogues
How about testing the Lone Star Hunter against a Buck 110 ? I wouldn't expect the Buck to win, but it would be interesting to see the difference.
Yo cold steel. ZGB sent me on over. Didn't thibk to see if y'all had a channel. Absolutely god like job on that polymer shorty. How much tensile strength does it have? Also how much flex can it receive before full ant total failure?
And I'm sorry for the unrelated talk on this vid. That is a really nice knife good lock from what I understand. But why nit tighten it down with two bolts? Would that invalidate the force a human hand could apply to it?
you guys should test the new tiger claw folding karambit vs emerson folding super karambit. they're almost the same weight as well. As well as test the ti lite, I'm curious how something other then the amazing tri-ad would do.
Emerson karambit vs CS tiger claw. Could really put cold steel on the board as a top tier contender in the market of karambits
How can people say you are biased, you just did Kershaw leek a favor: a small, flimsy looking knife which didn't break after 5 spine whacks. How many previously tested non-coldsteel knives survived spine whacks?
I'm a big fan of yours. you have great creative potential. Keep it up. my dream is to have a knife straight from you. Unfortunately the price. But I understand. Thank you for your contribution in the world of knives. Cheers Petr Krejčí. Czech Republic.
These guys should do the oakleys bulletproof sunglasses vs. their battle shades
I wanna see a 3 way comparison with the BM Adamas, Spyderco Tuff, and CS Recon 1 in CTS-XHP
Cold steel is awesome and they know exactly what there doing with there products good job Lynn Thompson cold steel is and always will be my favorite and go to company for knives
Compare the hold out iii to the Emerson mini cqc 7.
I have a framelock kershaw leek. I'm surprised the blade didn't snap its so thin.
Andrew, why are you wearing a sidearm during knife testing in the lab? Is Coldsteel facility's unsafe in some way???
I would love to see how an Emerson liner-lock would stack up against a Cold Steel knife.
Pls Test the Spyderco Endura VG10 4 FRN vs Mini Recon 1
Brian Smith
Why the mini Recon 1?
Andrew Tadsen because the code 4 would out perform it in these test.
Brian Smith
I mean, isn't the normal-size Recon 1 more comparable in size? I know the standard Cold Steel guard/handle-to-cutting-edge-offset makes the Recon 1 have more reach than the Endura, but aren't they otherwise comparable? I've seen the Code 4 compared in length to the Endura, but I don't know how similar in size the mini Recon 1 is to the Code 4.
Brian Smith
What about the American Lawman or the Ultimate Hunter? It seems like those are the more comparable in length to the Endura than any of the Recon 1's. I would say the Hold Out 2 is the most comparable.
Dear cold steel I am a fan of your machetes but I would realy like to see a heavy less flexible version of all of them for people who need to do more than just clear light brush and branches
Anyways thanks for reading this if u did
I'm gonna cry. Been carrying the leek since... shit idk. was my first dedicated pocketknife. Still my favorite, too.
Well if you treat it like your suppose to I guarantee you it's never going to fail
i'm a owner of a hold out 3 and i love it, but come one, triad vs liner lock? take at least a knife with a back or axis lock!
thumbs up for sebenza 21 or 25 vs ti-lite 4 for example
test the buck marksman 830. seems to be very strong.
pls test your lock against Buck 830 Marksman Folding Knife i'm so curies how stron it is.
Great video! Thanks :)
If only the hold out iii could open and close as easily as the leak. Nice job cold steel. I have the cold steel hold out ii, I carry it on duty.
Just bought the all steel same version of the Leek @ $32.00.
I'm surprised at the spine whack test, especially after the pm2 failed lol
I appreciate the tri ad lock In the fact that it's so strong but I can't like it. the opening just doesn't feel as good a Framelock running on bearings and there's no flippers. If there was a tri ad lock flipper that would be awesome I know it's probably impossible tho
Haven't seen a new video in a while. I was getting spoiled! I'd like to see you Test the Rat Worx MRX. It cost $300. I bet the chain and spring fail the spine whacks, and lock fails at 135lbs. Certain youtube people swear by that knife. Not saying who but prior to the rat Worx this person carried a CS American Lawman.
Get a Chris Reeve and test it.. Everyone says if you collect knives you should get a Chris Reeve but he basically makes the exact same knife every time.
+Danzig Rulze Like every time spyderco makes a new folder. Don't get me wrong I love my manix XL but they are all the same.
Matthew Dettorre Never mind there last video they finally did a Sebenza lol.
MICRO RECON1 VS KERSHAW SHUFFLE II PLEASE
A thought: Pit A Opinel against a cold steel of similar size and weight, and if possible price range.
is it possible to test a sebenza sometime...i think its a bit of an overrated knife...its beautifull...its well designed but the best folder out there?....lets see the lock first
+piet jansen It would lose to a Cold Steel easily. If I had to do a job with a knife, I much sooner grab a Cold Steel... but I much rather carry a Sebenza.
The Sebenza warrants it's popularity, it is almost a cornerstone of the higher end knife world. It has been around for over 20 years, was the first knife to popularize the frame lock, and in many ways was one of the first modern, single locking bladed, one hand opening, pocket knives. It is built to a very high level of quality and designed to last generations, heavy use is not what it was ever intended for.
i understand the craftmanship of a sebenza...its a well designed knife as i said...fact is that i never saw it go through some serious testing....sebanza is for showing your friends at a party or putting it on display...cold steel is for opening a can of fruit when no can opener is around...cold steel is for batoning when no fixed blade or axe is around..ive done things with my recon folder thats never been done with a sebenza...if its done...do tell me or better yet...show me
piet jansen Yeah I would never use a Sebenza for that, same reason you would not pick a Ferrari to go off roading with.
When I know I am going to be using my knife a lot one day, I tend to grab one of my Cold Steels as well. But in general I carry my ZTs, Bokers, Spydercos, Al Mar, ect.. more. I do not own a Sebenza, yet at lest.
i understand and respect that...but we probably buy knives for different reasons...im more a prepper kind of collector...so if i only have a folder...i want it to be able to do lots of things
piet jansen I would never buy a knife just for show. My non-Cold Steel knives may not hold 300Lb... but in my many years of carrying knives, I have never had to even put 10Lb of pressure on one. All of my other knives are just as strong and capable in practical use. Cold Steels are good though for heavy use because it is good to have that buffer zone in case something extremely unexpected happens.
You should secure the knives with a ziptie or something then itll be a true torture test
you need to test the rat works mrx
I would love to see how Cold Steel compares to some of the customs out there I think they would do wel,l if not better, than some of the pricy customs that are out there.
+ninja29mv Comparing a production knife to a custom knife is pointless. The performance will be similar and go back and forth in different categories, they are both just knives. If someone is looking for a good utility EDC, they would be stupid to buy a customs.
Customs are a lot more than just a knife for use. It is like comparing a Toyota to a Rolls Royce. Or a poster to a hand painted master piece. The kind of person who buys a custom is not buying it for the performance.
I dont think it would be pointless, I honostly believe that the performance of the Triad lock would trump A LOT of customs out there, I understand theres a certian point where your going for art and precision, but theres people out there that think you need a custom for this type of performance.
Im interested in the heavy use militaristic style customs, I've been doing the knife thing for some time now im curious, I understand why customs are priced the way they are.
What I'm saying is when you get a "Royce" ,for example, you get a sexy car but you ALSO get 560+ hp straight off the line you know what I'm saying? or you can get something more affordable ( that may even look better in the beholders eyes) with even greater hp maybe like a zl1camaro or gt500
ninja29mv I fully agree that strength wise the Tri-add will out perform just about any custom, besides ones with dead bolts or Andrew Demko customs (the designer of the Tri-add). The one performance area that customs will completely beat Cold Steel with is edge retention though, CTS-XHP is a great steel, but it is not going to hold a candle to something CPM-M4, 20CV (Cold Steel does make one knife in this steel), s90v, ect...
People who buy customs are really not concerned with performance, and a lot of them would full out agree that production knives from Cold Steel, Spyderco, Benchmade, ect.. may be more practical or better performing. People buy customs for their collection, because they enjoy the craftsman ship, exclusivity, just to be a part of the community, ect...
Pls Test the Spyderco Endura VG10 4 FRN vs Cold Steel Counter Point I
You know, the deployment of your triad lock knives still isn't as good as all of these knives you've tested against. You guys should make the wave feature standard on most models.
please do rat worx mrx vs swift 1
so no Adamas?
I think 45 pounds for a knife that small is actually pretty good
I'mNotFucking HereRightNow the kershaw leek is also ungodly thin everywhere.
Interesting seeing how you choose carry your firearm in your belt without a holster. Guess can't expect much more from a knife guy.
they are 2 vastly different locks, obviously a framelock wont hold up to a triad, a benchmade acces lock would have been a better comparison. The knives may look "similar" but they really arent...
Design flaw on the leek. The pivot screw seat is almost nonexistent. Mine broke with NO hard use.
Both pointy! Good comparison.
I think it is hard to compare the two, because the leek obviously is not a hard use knife and is more of a light edc / gentlemans folder
Really not fair everyone knows that a kershaw wont be able to take alot of force on and lock and let alone stand up against a cold steel
не буду с переводом трудиться, но сравнивать легкий, тонкий, с деликатным клинком нож с крепышем, довольно сомнительное действие...
the leek is amazing!
Cold steel rules Kershaw drools!
comparing a liner lock with a back lock under load ... what nonsense I just looked
A 40 dollar knife vs a 70 dollar knife no surprise
construction wise i think most chinese clones and low budget knives are built sturdier than most kershaws under $75. just...flimsy. i'm disappointed, spent good money for otherwise good designs.
got 2 more cs on the way though. can't wait for the 4" talwar and the long awaited finn wolf to kick my voyagers and code 4 out of the pocket.
around the neck though it's a tie (no pun intended) between all the mini tac models.
cs - going strong!
Tactical X-Rays
I agree, I have quite a few cheap folders and they passed testing way better than a Blur. But hey, at least the Blur is "ultra smooth" and you have to put like, zero effort into releasing the lock! I mean, we all have rubber fingers, right! So hard to use fingers. No offense to those who actually have issues using their digits, but they usually aren't the ones complaining. They should probably get an Arc-lock folder.
When kershaw makes shitty products, do they inform their customers that they could be injured?
tallswede80 What is it you're trying to do?
CSharp
What do you mean?
"People requested to see this comparison". Lol. What do you knife newbees expect to see happen? Everybody knows that the triad lock is extremely STIFF and strong. "If they can't pass these tests with flying colors, they are not put into production", in the first place. Once again apples and oranges are being compared. I have all three Holdouts in Aus 8, and a couple of Leeks. The Leek is a classy, gentleman's knife, used for light cutting. It has a wharncliffe blade, and a needle sharp tip that you he to be careful with. The Leek is a collectable, CLASSIC available in many colors, handle materials, and steels.
The Hold Out is no Leek. It is an excellent, small, hard use knife that used to be affordable, in Aus 8. Unfortunately, now it costs $70+ due to the "requested" steel upgrade. You can still find the 3 inch Aus 8 model for $25-$30 if you hurry.
WTF are you doing that with a LEEK? I didnt need a test to know the leek would get destroyed, all you need is to hold the thing and youd know. It's a thin, lightweight, light duty knife.
Agreed!
I think they did the comparison because the two knives are very close in weight and size.
+Eric Jonas Yep, leek is a basically a glorified box cutter, thin light weight knife for light cutting. My brother breaks down boxes all day and carries one. Its not even meant for heavy duty work xD Aluminum frame and a THIN ASS blade... Might as well compare a scalpel to a European Long Sword...
Should of compared it against the 1870 knockout or 1678 camber.
Don´t show clips, deliver the new stuff!!!....waiting for half a year, what´s the matter ?!?!
ADAMAS! ADAMAS! ADAMAS! ADAMAS! ADAMAS!
well i have a folding knife its a everyday carry but its a full joke its gonna broke if i hit someone i wanna buy cold steel product but im on a budget if someone can head me of to something cheap and godd
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just for giggles... Sog fixation bowie vs Cold Steel voyager xl
Cold steel is the best knives.
I only trust Cold Steel knives because I have a blood disorder. Weak and dull knives scare me in the same sense that a low platelet count does. These other manufacturers are really scaring me in the facet that they do not seem to care about their products in the same way that the Cold Steel team does.
By does. Old steel always win
WHY U NEVER REVIEW A MICROTECH OR LION STEEL ??? ARE U AFRAID TO LOSE ?
+csknives Those are called question marks, fyi :)
***** maybe so, maybe so....Now...do I get a prize? lol
Dude most of the review your standing so far away we cant see what your talking about. Why would you stand 10 feet from the camera so we can't even see what the knives look like. Come on dude why are you waisting people's time!?
Can you tell your stupid camera man to zoom in on the weight tests? You can't see the blades when he's zoomed out, it's a test about the blades after all right?
i like your knives but the guy in the videos is arrogant and all he does is bash other knife company.
Opinel vs kudu
These videos are blahh, to long, p.s. I put a 60$CS leatherneck tanto vs 20$Scheffield Rouge, blade to blade and just smashed them together tit for tat, and the tanto broke in half!!! Still choping down trees with the rouge. To each his own!
Most useless test yet! CS keeps outdoing itself with completely worthless tests, especially against the Leek. And funny how CS has suddenly become a steel snob, given they have always been way behind in that department.
***** and you alienated yourself from the knife community in the process with a nonsense lawsuit and gimmicky tests (how about a cut test?). I own several CS knives and have always thought the quality was good and I am a person who spends a lot of money on my knife collection. But hey, that is the free market and I have chosen not to invest in CS products anymore.
***** the problem is you ask too much from a knife. I don't think I've ever heard anyone soon they're looking for a knife I can hold 600 pounds. In one another very trusted company comes along you guys just try to tear them down
***** what about San Mai? That's been around and available for over 25 years. Weren't they the first American firm to offer laminated steel?
machine useless!!!
@csknives Cold Steel AK-47/Recon 1 vs Benchmade Adamas, make it happen!! Also Recon XL vs Spyderco Tatanka, you know you want to.