(IT GOT HEATED) CHOREO BATTLE - Aespa 에스파 'Black Mamba' VS Dreamcatcher(드림캐쳐) 'BOCA' (연습실 ver.)
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Dreamcatcher has some very powerful movements, but i think that aespa especially with the drop in the chorus leaves a very memorable performance. Both are amazing in their own wAy.
Agreed.. I hope people understand that we think both dances are amazing, we just had to pick a winner lol
@@REDEMPTION46 yeah it’s fine, everyone has the right to their own opinions and there’s nothing wrong with it as long as you keep it respectful obviously.
This is interesting aespa has some memorble choreo while dreamcatcher has some powerful moves
Agreed
Boca win it in term of overall performance and the fullness of the choreo and black mamba win in term of eye catching and unique choreo....both win lol
The fans won lol
Black mamba- iconic point choreo, basic hip hop beats meant dance and beats can be timed with ease, choreo outside of the point drop is pretty simple and the dancers stick together far too much. Otherwise choreo leaves spaces for inserting the AI members during the stages.
Boca- powerful moves and lyrical choreo which is a dreamcatcher staple, conserved energy for the finale where the dance is pretty intense and Siyeon has an extended high note, actually a pretty hard choreo to do, visual story telling which was the whole theme of the dystopia trilogy. Iconic point choreo.
Apples and Bananas.
You cannot compare these two because Aespa's general choreo is all about that one moment of "holy shit" in the song where DC's dystopia trilogy is about storytelling and creating visual imagery. Idk how people actually expect people to dance to the EXACT rock beat at all, like, have you ever danced to a rock song that isn't headbanging?
DC's choreo can at best be compared to Loona with their mix of flowy and hard hitting choreo and choreo heavy style. At best. Meanwhile Aespa is far closer to Itzy. I could still understand comparing DC's non dystopia choreo with other groups cause it just feels really odd that people genuinely think their dances are "not that great" when they have some of the hardest dances just because of backup dancers in 3 songs.
We can compare whatever we want lol
I appreciate your long post but at the end of the day dancing is art. Art is subjective and able to be criticized and compared. With that being said both dances are dope in their own right. What we your preference is; that’s up to you
@@REDEMPTION46 While that's true, dances still have different genre's... Like the OG comment said these two choreo's are not even in the same field of dance so to compare them is kind of doing a diservice to both the choreo's and the genre's that they came from. So even though art is subjective, there is an objective motive behind dance. And that is to tell a story(like what DC did) or to wow a crowd with flashy moves and memorable moments(like what Aespa did). I'm NOT saying that Y'all are wrong because I like Aespa's choreo for this particular reaction better but that's just because I don't really vibe with the DC choreo for this one song only. But I can also say from a technical point DC's choreo was overall better.
Ya i agree with you !
You also argued about the synchronicity of the Dreamcatcher dance. According to many polls, Dreamcatcher ranks 3rd among all girl groups.
yea, plus since there are SO many dancers its hard to be synchronized. they did pretty well
Cool
it was computer generated to meet the most accuracy on synchronisation
I alwaya love dreamcatcher choreo performance story telling dance. So my vote goes to dreamcatcher.
Bias lol
@@REDEMPTION46 ? Bias?
AESPA choreo is not design for live vocal...they gone for cool dance choreo easy for ppl to learn and imitate.
BOCA is design for big stage performance and all the movement and choreo are sync to the lyric and song aesthetic... Dreamcatcher first two debut songs we're concentrate on choreo rather than choreo.
Honestly I liked dreamcatcher better because it seemed more full. Aespa had the memorable chorus but I didn't really like the dance move after that. Anyways overall they were both good in different ways.
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Dreamcatcher has harder choreo in general so may be show other dance practice but very few female groups are know for their dance gfriend dreamcatcher everglow itzy twice these groups go hard
Omg my heart was breaking for Lo 😩 he is a true Insomnia 🥺
watch Wind Blows* choreo by Dreamcatcher
Ok
this was an interesting choice - to put choreos like this up against one another. i personally like dc's dance more, but i understand why some do prefer aespa's.
if you're going to react to any other choreos by dc, i would maybe recommend 'wind blows' :) if you've already done it or don't take requests then i hope you have a good day !
I look at kpop choreo like this:
Aespas choreo vs dreamcatchers in a performance aspect
watching them in concert..id chose dreamcatcher. Aespas choreo couldnt fill a stage!
the power drop is what makes black mamba, but the other moves are a little awkward (for me) like the one dude said, boca has a better dance overall, BUTTTTT i have to go with black mamba because its so memorable and the shock factor is there
That’s where I was at with it.. Both dances are amazing.. That drop is iconic
Had they started the argument with "dreamcatcher giving more performance than dance choreography" then it would've probably reduced the tension. I do agree with that, BOCA is a stage song.
I honestly think it wouldn't have mattered... Lo would have argued every point no matter what. Lmmfao
both are great. both are great Dreamcatcher deserves more popularity than it is now.
While aespa focuses on the dance itself, Dreamcatcher's choreography is like a musical.
Dreamcatcher deserves more popularity than now.
you guys check out Dreamcatcher "scream" or "odd eye" dance practice and then we talk again 🙏🏻🔥💯
We can talk right now if you want lol
If there was a battle between Dreamcatcher - Scream and Aespa - Black Mamba. Scream would have won.
But it wasn’t lol.. who you got winning this?
@@REDEMPTION46 I won't be able to objectively choose one of them. Because I'm a fan of Dreamcatcher. I like it when there are a lot of members in the group and everyone is given a separate dance part.
Id also like to point out that dreamcatcher did an 8 count choreo to a guitar rift! That in itself is better than that prowl drop aespa did! Thats my opinion!
Nice
17:13 you guys should check out the dance for endless night, i think it fits the heavy vibe! i do agree that the dance for boca could have been more intense since the song is so powerful, but you have to keep in consideration that it will be performed live
Agreed 🙏🏽
For me the big difference between the two choreo's is the 'intention' of the choreo. Black Mamba is an excellent dance for the song from a technical and musicality standpoint - that quick drop into the lunge was fantastic. BOCA, I think, is more of a storytelling choreography where the elements and the pictures they make with the props and back-up dancers directly relate to the lyrics and the concept of the song instead of constant high energy focus. Each is excellent in their own way.
I love yall reaction and I'm here for it
The girl wearing black with yoga pants in aespa is NingNing she’s Chinese and their main vocalist her high notes are powerful and she’s such a cutie I’m not a aespa fan but I love her and I love when she catches people’s attention, I really can’t believe we’re the same age lol (19)
Can you believe Knets call her fat? Like that girl is hot
@@lalapozada7834 yea to them if you’re not skinny to the point where your bones can be seen then you’re not pretty
@@Prettyhilli yea it’s very disturbing if you think about it. The standard they put on the idols are ridiculous
Dreamcatcher LOVE 😁
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Someone needs to make a compilation of Nick squealing and giggling 😂😆💜
Don’t do me like that 😩😂😂
@@REDEMPTION46 you had me dying with your squealing. Nas facial expression when he heard you 😂
I think ODD EYE would've been a better choice than BOCA. Still...I enjoyed both, I think people don't realise, the more there is, the harder it is for sync dancing, thats why theres only a few groups that succeeds in this area, namely, TWICE, G-FRIEND for example. Dreamcatcher are not known for great syncing, because each part has their own "story". This is where their vocals excels, more so than Aespa.
well for non-dancers it's all personal opinion anyways. aespa's choreo is very low difficulty. synchronization is the easiest part of choreos. matching textures, executing mirroring and cannons is a lot harder. why do you think olympic dives with clean entries can get lower overall scores than ones that are a little off? sure that aespa drop looks cool but is and easy move. and it's not always about going hard. ask any dancer, it's much harder to execute slower choreo and match texturing. so is it better to just have an easy choreo and look good performing? probably so given the target audience.
Your first statement said it all… “all personal opinion”… I’ve seen dancers react to both videos and give both credit for difficulty. I would never say synchronization is “the easy part” cause a lot of groups can’t even get that right lol.. I think both dances were dope in their own right but you’re gonna to gravitate towards what you like more
"Synchronization is the easy part" but there were points where DC wasn't even synchronized? I think trying to downplay being crisp and precise is ridiculous on the face of it. Nobody is talking about the musicality of the moves the fact that there are points where the focused vocalist isn't even dancing while the background dancers do the work. End of the day IT IS a matter of preference, but to say precision is the easiest part means alot of groups are doing it wrong. 🤷🏾♂️
@@R3dRum215 people confuse synchronization with various techniques dc is using. not everyone is doing the same thing. they are using mirroring and staggered formations. a lot of the choreo is using cannons. being in sync is just having everyone start and end on the same count. that is easy especially if everyone is doing the exact same move at the same time. it's much harder to match the texturing they are adding as another layer on top other elements. also just because the beat goes hard doesn't mean the dancing has to go hard. that comes down to artistic preference. dreamcatcher's choreo often goes opposite of the beat which adds another dimension. so yes in the end it's just personal preference, but it's a bit annoying to see comments that are off base as it pertains to dance techniques. there are lots of groups with high choreo difficulty. aespa isn't it.
@@ivyshy98 Maybe some people do confuse I however am not one of them. So off beat or on beat synchronization is still the same. Mirroring and staggering have nothing to do with synchronization. Thats visual layering and textures. Thats not what we were talking about. We understand there are iso's (Normally the artist dances in those Iso's not kinda stand there with background dancers going off). The issue is when everyone is clearly assigned to do the same move, arm swing, turn step, and they are off. Thats the issue. 🤷🏾♂️
I love Black Mamba Choreograph!! It’s so great and I love the transitions. And Is BTS getting a choreo battle soon???
Very soon.. One will drop on here and a few more on Patreon
@@REDEMPTION46 yayy hope you can react to this bts dance practice ua-cam.com/video/eRkpkveBWyo/v-deo.html&ab_channel=BANGTANTV
I will have to go with DC because I was kept engaged throughout the song, great storytelling, and great use of space.
Aespa was very clean and synchronized but it did not keep me engaged for very long. I have listened to Kpop since 2009 so for ME Aespa's "drop" was more of a throwback to their senior girl group Girls Generation: The Boys ua-cam.com/video/Rknds7fIEFw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=mirrorHD at minute 2:32
It's probably me being biased because everytime I see that "drop" I can only think of GG. 🤷♀🤷♀
Omg A lot of new fans didn't actually know these some people were like Ooooh so new fresh like its been done(doesn't mean it is bad) but it is not fresh fresh as some people claimed it to be
Same. As a fan of Kpop since 2010 for me it was more like a throwback to SNSD so it didn't feel too impactful but I know it has a lot to do with that other experience I had with The Boys choreo. I really like Black Mamba (the song), it is my favorite song from Aespa so far. I still prefer Dreamcatcher though. The choreography with the lyrics and props makes everything more interesting for me as they focus on creating a whole performance, especially with the Dystopia trilogy and the message they want to convey.
Thanks for the reaction! I think you guys would really enjoy “Bad Boy” by Red Velvet if you haven’t checked it out already, it has somewhat of a similar subtle, sexy vibe.
That sounds lit.. we need more Red velvet reactions
Black Mamba all the way. Dreamcatcher is great but Boca is probably last on my list of their choreographies.
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Love both but Boca
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To me ,the best dancing in girl groups are LOONA,TWICE,DREAMCATCHER and Red velvet (most.y because of Seulgi)
got Lo fighting fa his life lmaooo
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Boca is very hard cheography bruh..how can compare with black mamba lol,boca should compare with twice cry for me✌️
I love both aespa n dreamcatcher. But prefer aespa❤black mamba.
Anw i love dreamcatcher BEcause n Scream alot too👍
They’ll be battling soon
They're the best girl group in Korea for their live performance.
Pls do more choreo battle reaction!!
More up on Patreon
@@REDEMPTION46 do more on UA-cam too please. This old island girl is in philly too btw, being super broke rn. Also I agree with Lo. 😊
Interesting battle. DC fans are die hard as it gets.
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Cause they create loyal fandom not fans who will drop them off once the going gets thought. These girls have been through lows of lows with their fans they are shun by the korean industry never been invited to big shows even tho their popularity and income have reach that level of acknowledgement as they are from small company they have more freedom interms of interaction with fans also lets not forget they faced disbandment and come back with vengeance like how many kpop group actually does that?
@@veen-a2092But in reality
Dreamcatcher To Be The First K-Pop Group To Perform At Barcelona's Famous “Primavera Sound” Festival
@@rin7109 Its a proof that international acknowledge their talent and music rather than the korean industry
I think that after watching many choreos for years , one can reach a point in which agressive movements like black mamba choreo bores you a bit, yes they are strong, the drop, etc, (and that was a move from an SNSD song) and there were some awkward movements as well, in this case i'll go with DC's Boca, like that dude at the left said, overall it's more pleasant to watch, it's a mixture of elegant , sexy and powerful movements and not oversaturating with the powerful ones as i felt a bit with black mamba. And seems a bit more creative
We need a Boca dance cover from Lo lmao
Dreamcatcher have better choreo in my opinion.
Naughty by Seulgi and Irene is really hard choreo
You should’ve do choreo battle for the debut songs tho, to be more fair. But I agree that Aespa should win for this one. 4 of them did the dance without anyone stopping. ❤
So you guys reacted to a song that had back up dancers rather than one without... Dreamcatcher only has 3 songs with Back up dancers Scream, Boca and Odd Eye. Out of their 11 title tracks and many b-sides, I suggest instead you react to Black or White, Wind blows, Because, Goodnight, Eclipse, Fly High just to make it a fair judgment of their dancing
Please react to Dreamcatcher's Scream and Odd Eye dance practice
And if you need dance practices without backup dancers then I suggest:
- Chase Me
- Wind Blows
- Endless Night
- Black or White
Damn ngl I remember learning boca and it took me so lot of time and whenever I dance to it it always made me tired and made me wanna give up in the middle- ngl dream catcher always have powerful moves, dream catcher wins. ❤
Their music styles are very different, so it seems too much to compare.
Both high energy songs.. style different but both upbeat
Dreamcatcher all the way
They could have given Boca a frikin hard choreo with foot work for that chorus but nah. The dance doesn´t go as hard as the music does
Bruh y’all gotta remember these idols are singing too their choreos can’t always be hard it’s tiring too
I feel like Boca is much lighter than Scream in terms of choreography
@@HungLe-br9cw Thats cuz it is. Boca id more focused for a grand performance and aespa is just dancing. Wind blows, scream, chase me are by far better.
Also dreamcatcher is known for live singing, and their dances show how smart they prepare for that. SM never lets their artists sing live so the choreo is not made for live singing.
It's for sure all the way to aespa - Black Mamba, most of the reason point that another party gives, in the beginning, is just speak more to give it point to Black Mamba. The synchronization, without backup dancers, looks at the whole thingy, clean moves, etc. Don't get me wrong I love Dreamcatcher, but Boca is not their best.
If someone asks me, are you blown away with the Black Mamba choreography? I would answer YES, THAT'S ICONIC (especially the DROPS).
Thanks, Redemption 46 for reacting to these dance practices.
Agreed 1000%
Both dances lit but Black Mamba with the slight edge
Nick why did you choose these 2 songs I feel like it didn’t match😩 it should have been Itzy vs Aespa. The winner for me is Aespa for sure it’s just the choreography is more memorable and Dreamcatcher had too many people but it seems like the choreography for Dreamcatcher is harder
Man they both High energy songs lol
ITZY bout to rumble next lol
For a sick choreo battle I’d love to see PIXY vs ITZY. Every single one of each of their choreo’s goes hard.
Or IRENExSEULGI Naughty v/s HOSHI Spider
That sounds Fire 👀
@@REDEMPTION46 for PIXY take “Bewitched (Eng Ver)” performance MV and Not Shy for ITZY. ;)
Yesss aespa content m’y fav girl group
Gotta react to them more
I missed these!!❤️
They’re back 🔥🔥🔥
I'm just here to see your reaction to BM & aespa. I just love aespa I SM stand and thank u for this react yass this Black Mamba is sexy & catchy dance
aespa blackmamba dance is so clean, precise, execution etc... it's simple choreo but its so clean that for me it's perfect the Boca seems to much going on the props the backup dancer.
First hey
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Hahah fans are being fans, that’s why we have biases for a reason lol me aespa Stan 🤣
For me Dreamcatcher wins
Aespa is my vote 🔥🔥🔥🔥
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Mirror mirror by f.hero and milli ft changbin of straykids please
And also new group debuted *KEP1ER SONG WA DA DA* its a hit hope u watch it
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@@REDEMPTION46 I hope u react please 🙏 😔
Of course the аespa doesn't even have to think about it
I Heard that, Bizmo Funyuns...key and peele
Loona have the best choreographies. Butterfly is the best choreo of 2019. Also So what and Paint the town are crazy. You should check them out
The dude when he screamed in part black mamba the two guys in the right side the way they looked at him im dead😭💀
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How would Black Mamba look with just the 4 members?
How would Dreamcatcher look with no back up dancers in this? Lol
@@REDEMPTION46 🤣🤣
LO is a full insomnia, I see you getting frustrated 😅
y'all please react to aespa - Dreams Come True and GOT the beat - Step Back !!
I have such a hard time liking girl groups due to their lackluster choreos. The closest I´ve seen any gg do it like the boys are Everglow with First but that´s it. The girls get the hip shakes, arm swaying, lean on the others´ butts choreos over and over.
First 🔥🔥🔥
I felt the same but after watching a bunch of different girl groups it’s some dope ass Choreos
Hopefully we’ll get to show ppl some dances they didn’t see 🙏🏽
From what I saw: First was choreographed by boy group choreographer. I think it's done by Ateez choreographer
And boys get the same hip thrusts, slow grinding, jerky foot movements over and over.
aespa choreo not to live vocal performance 😆
Chungha, Taemin and Kai are one of the best dancers in the industry.
Curious why for the choreo battles you released today were the same group vs the same group when it comes to the boys but 2 different groups when it came to the girls? Lol
Cause we can do whatever we want here
@@REDEMPTION46 I was just curious. No need to get upset. I didn’t know if it was a plan you had for something or just because 😎
@@Doyoungismyfave not upset at all lol.. just don’t get the relevancy here
Don't know anything about Aespa. I'm not super familiar with Dreamcatcher but do have 2 of their songs on my playlist . I really don't like either of these songs so I'll just vote based on choreo and go with Aespa.
That’s fair
@@REDEMPTION46 sorry Lo 😅
Please react to Milli, Changbin from Stray Kids, Fhero - Mirror mirror
This song is 🔥
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More react to Aespa 🙌
I'm still waiting, you and your friends, react to the Boyz
It’s up on Patreon
Do Iz*one secret story of the swan vs. Twice Cant stop me
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does Aespa- "Next level" vs "Savage"
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React to Blackpink Kill This Love Dance Practice Vs. Itzy Icy Dance Practice.
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You guys should react to a dance battle between Iz*One "Fiesta" and Itzy "Dalla Dalla"
Interesting 📝
Dream catcher on top 🔝
React to *bts 2020 MMA dynamite dance break and dance practice*
*straykids easy mv and dance practice*
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@@REDEMPTION46 thanku 🙏
Please react to
*straykids easy mv and dance practice* (hip hop)
*Mirror mirror* (hip hop)
*kep1er debut song WA DA DA*
I love aespa black mamba
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React to aespa next level performance
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aespa 😭😭
aespa wins
Stray kids dance practice please
Up on Patreon now
REDEMPTION 46🤬🤬👿aespa out
I generally find Dreamcatchers choreos kinda lacklustre , everyone mentions how it’s storytelling and yada yada but it hardly has any shock factor or really standout parts… I can’t think of a single move that was really eye catching. Aespa choreos might not be the best from a technical perspective or whatever but they definitely are more memorable and fun to look at!
Dreamcatcher always great but compared to aespa black mamba it just seems a lot more chaotic and all over the place. Was harder to keep up with all that was going on after watching black mamba
y'all please react to aespa - Dreams Come True and GOT the beat - Step Back !!
React to Blackpink Kill This Love Dance Practice Vs. Itzy Icy Dance Practice.
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