How to Short Turn | 3 Common Mistakes All Skiers Do
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- In this ski tutorial, Josh is helping me to improve my short turns and simultaneously we teach you how to overcome the 3 most common mistakes every skier does in their short turns. If you fix these issues you will be able to ski down anything with much more stability and style. This is the second video where Josh is coaching me towards my goal of going from level 3 to passing the Level 4 Ski instructor exam which is the highest and is pretty darn hard to pass.
I hope you will learn as much about short turns from Josh as I did during our full day of coaching🙂
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00:00 Intro and what we did in the last video
00:48 Stability Issues
00:59 3 Ways to be "unstable / stable" 1. Rotational Separation 2. Angulation 3. Vertical Movement
01:48 Improve Angulation: Drill 1.1: Hockey Stop
02:50 Improve Angulation: Drill 1.2 Outside ski turns
04:24 Improve Angulation: Drill 1.3 No Pole outside ski turns
05:19 Focus on 1 thing and see if the drill worked
06:20 Angulation + Rotational Separation: Drill 2.1 Classic Pole Drill
06:57 Angulation + Rotation + Vertical Movement: Drill 2.2 Classic Pole Drill with a "cross under transition"
08:18 Angulation + Rotation + Vertical Movement: Drill 2.3 Advanced Tea Tray
09:18 Putting it to the test. Stable upper body and heel pressure in the transition
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Looks easy to cross skies, but I’ll try it
Its a nice reminder to see even professionals keep learning
Always!
Im glad to hear that I learned professional things at the age of 12 :) But ski is basically my life and I've been one of the best skiers in Quebec for some times.
@@mikac2002 The irony here is that people like the humility shown in the video and here you are exemplifying the exact opposite of humility.
love the humility of sharing the moments where you are not feeling the most confident.
I think a lot of ppl who had such a following wouldn't ever want to appear 'weak' on film. good on you.
exactly, that's the hardest part, I love what he did, he is a modest and great man
Thank you for that. It is a bit scary todo so but the fact that it is relatable and inspiring to others makes it a fear worth ignoring. Have a dog season start! Jens
Awesome video. No buzzwords and cliche things like you "need better carved turns", instead "a little more on your edge, a little back on the heels". Loved it! Also loved the pop-up windows explaining types of rotations and the crossunder vs crossover, very helpful
The guy who is doing backflips learning to ski, okay. Actually, it's cool, when even pro knows which week spots to improve. Awesome vid
There's something about seeing you engaged in the learning process that makes MY learning process so much more encouraging. There's always room to improve and there's always someone who can help you get therre.
I must say that single ski, no pole drill took his skiing to another level instantly. Of course as was noted, when he got the poles back and on 2 skis his technique went back a bit but wow, amazing the how quickly it corrected this problem. One thing he can do is raise his upper body up more. He's leaning over too much and when he cuts in on a turn sharply his upper body flops down because of this positioning. keep it more upright and it'll give rigidity and strength. Something else, and it relates obviously to upper body movement but there seems to be too much arm movement too. He is reaching out as opposed to just flicking the wrist. Keeping them in front but not reaching out will keep upper body still too.
These drills have greatly improved my body stability down the fall line. I warm up and end my day with the one ski and pole drills. I feel good about now having a foundation to go back to when I let go and push too hard during the day. Your video tips along with the fore/aft awareness I've been working on have made me a happy skier. All of your videos are informative and likeable so I can watch them over and over. Great production, talent, script, music and pacing.
Jens' habit of falling into a too forward weight distribution at the end of the carving turn comes from his rad buttering urge.
So right on
Jens your videos have improved so much and so clean to watch. Need this covid to pass to make sure i make the freestyle camp. Need that fresh mountain snow air in my lungs
I coach kids on the US East coast, and we see the same issues you have every year:
= Get some longer poles - not as long as back in the day, as we have a lower athletic stance now
= Get in the gates - the ice will show up any upper body over activity - plus don't you have the equivalent of L' equivalence in Switzerland?
= Try skiing while holding bungee cords between your hands, and as you're super athletic, progress to doing this on one ski and in GS gates - oh yes!
Love the videos, and I'm sure you'll make Level 4.
Cheers!
Great video! The descriptive discussion between an experienced instructor and student helps to better convey the ideas, feelings, and challenges in improving short turns. Kudos.
Glad you enjoyed it!
You are lucky to have such a coach! Also, you are ready to work for your next level and you have the right attitude! There are a few things for you to work on, but you will get there with the right instruction! Good luck!
The tea tray drill was great, felt good as it forces you to think about the skis doing the carving and get those distracting upper body movements out of the way. Then I tried the one footed outside ski drill, not the first time I tried it, but wow, I really still struggle with that. I can do it, but not very graceful at all. Still good to work on, gotta keep trying and someday, it’ll click.
You guys rock!! No matter how good we are, you guys show that we can always improve! Super presentation, super content.
Been watching your channel for two years and I can't wait to see this pay off!
Way to go Jens, it's great to see you improve, keeping in mind that you're already amazing at skiing
WOW another awesome video! Josh makes it so easy to understand! Keep up the good work
Great effort Jen's, the change was amazing. Well done. I will put some of these drills into practice when I can get out on my skis! Thank you both!
definitely enjoyed this one! I want to practice separation this weekend and get my turns feeling more clean!
Great video! Love this tutorial format, hope there will be more like this!
Great stuff, Jens. Gonna work these drills into my own skiing.
Great tips! ✨Love the distinction between rotational and lateral in separation, it can be such a confusing term.
Loved this video.
Great videos, looking forward to practising some of these great drills 👌
Definitely enjoying watching your videos. My wife and I have been practicing the skills/lessons that you are doing, and they are having a positive effect. Would love to make the trip and take an actual lesson from you guys one day.
Can’t wait to see how your level 4 journey goes this year. Getting 1 and 2 this year and boy is it so much fun
Great content! Thanks for this!!
I did the turn thing with taking my weight off my shins in the end of the turn & putting it back In the heals . I could feel the power jolting me out of it. Loved it
Thanks guys! Really helps
Looking sweet Jens. Good lateral displacement and edge angulation, upper body calm and vertical. Great to see how well you applied those coaching tips.
Thanks, this was super helpful
Nice to see you’re still uploading videos! I unfortunately can’t go skiing this year because of corona, but i just suddenly got hit with a willingness to ski, so i hopped into your youtube channel to look at some skiing while learning something. I hope you’re doing well
Great videos! Thanks.
Thank you for all this content, my first time skiing was way much easier because those tips. Keep going.
This is such great content! I'd really like to hear more about crossover vs crossunder.
Can't wait to join you in the camp 😍
Excellent - just excellent 👍
Whoa, that's a good improvement in one day Jens! Now go ski some moguls, add a kicker and try a cork 7 in between the bumps! I bet you could learn that in five days or so, by braking down all the bits needed and starting with simpler tricks.
Ps. I keep eating snow when trying right side threes and corked left sides with carving take off...
Best ski vids on the platform great vid as always
Appreciate it!
10:16 you nailed it! Very nice!
...amazing! very usefull
Awesome video. Clear tips. Great! But I can't stop wondering where this video has been taken? The views are distractingly beautiful
Great video
you are the best!
You to Marco! Have a great start of 2021
SO GOOD
the one ski riding is very helpful
From my point of view, the student already an advanced skier... His upper body seperation, using one leg turn on steep slope and high edging angle already make me admired (I am being Lock-down in Hong Kong due to COVID-19 and unable flying to north area for prastising🤢🤢🤢)
Congrats on your progress Jens 👊🏼 upper body is definitely a tricky one.
It really is!
That was a great improvement you did!
All of that improvement was done in only 1 day ?
awesome headbanging at 2:07 man!
can u do one about hitting zipper lines in moguls? thats the only place I cant keep up with my dad whos a ski instructor
+1 moguls video!
that 4k quality looks so crisp
I saw your video on binding mounting and you showed two examples on the Bent Chetler. Do you have an update on which is your go to mounting position for the 100s?
Awesome
There is a common misconception that good skiers should have a "quiet upper body". While in fact good skiers recognize that during each turn they need to rotate the hips and upper body in a counter acting position, and also flex from the hips side to side to stay in a counter balanced position.
Nice turns Josh! Could you tell me what brand your ski pants are?
Good luck hope you can reach advanced 4 instructor
Hey Jens
I'm going on holiday to Laax in a few days and I just wanted to hear if you know why there are so many slopes closed.
The real objective of this session was started in a previous video, namely to flex or bend the knees and hips in transition to commence the next turn. This movement releases the uphill edges causing the skis to go flat to the snow and the upper body to topple over the skis. This must be immediately followed by foot pull back and tipping the skis to their new edges. Both the instructor and the student are not doing this. They continue to extend (stand up) to release their uphill or old edges. The movements they are doing in their video are cross over movements (extending to release) and not the cross under movements (flexing to release) they say they are doing. Clearly the instructor does not under stand the movements required to do a “cross under” turn, their stated objective. The “new school” movements (their label) are taught in PMTS. Look it up. There are several books and videos that detail these movements and so much more.
@@JB91710 You couldn’t be more wrong! Harald Harb’s The Essentials of Skiing (the book and DVD library) outline in detail how you combine the movements of flexing, foot pull back and tipping in the transition to exit one turn and commence another. They also provide video of the exercises necessary to learn these movements. Expert skiing at the level performed by the world’s best technical free skiers and World Cup racers requires years of dedication and training performing complex movements which are often counter intuitive. Skiing at that level yes does indeed require several books and videos to adequately describe the required movements. It is never too late to upgrade your level of skiing by studying in detail Harald Harb’s books, videos and manual. Everything you need to know is clearly and concisely outlined in those publications to ski at the expert level. And if you are having difficulties, sign up for one of their on snow clinics.
@@JB91710 Here again you couldn’t be more wrong! Flexing alone to release the old edges could put you in the back seat and cause you to get out of control but not when you combine flexing with foot pull back and tipping to the new edges. These added movements outlined in detail by Harald Harb recentres your weight distribution on the skis allowing you to pressure the tips of the skis at the beginning of each turn. Rather than throwing out unfounded statements, try updating your knowledge of expert ski movements.
@@JB91710 You are right about one point, knees don’t bend sideways. But if you flex the knees and hips you can then move the knees laterally (done by rotating the femur in the hip) causing the skis to tip (tipping). These movements can not possibly be outlined here - requires too much detail. So read and view the sources I suggested. Any further dialogue with you would be pointless until you study and comprehend the movements described by Harald Harb.
Very good points! (in the original Bill"s statement) But I still like the way Josh is teaching! Learning about PMTS for both would definitely help, though! The whole debate here is enjoyable!
@@JB91710 while PSIA does have some good theory in points, a lot of their exercises are about a perfect "look" and not about perfect skiing, which is designed for the customer image, not the goal. Some of that is good though because of the challenges of body separation and balance in multiple ways and places to achieve that look, it's more of a drill for body control than actual practice. I would bet 9/10 World class big mountain skiers could not pass their L3 today, and most veteran instructors teaching 40+ years also could not pass their L3 today. That is obviously not due to lack of skill and skier performance. Again, PSIA is not designed to test or teach good skiing, it's designed for a skiing that "looks" perfect. In my own teaching I have definitely taking tips from PSIA with body cause and effect, but would never teach exactly to PSIA manual
Could you give the carv system a try and see how it works?
Hey i got a question about nose buttering.
Do you need tight ski bindings to nose butter?
Nice
Are your ski stations open ?? it's closed in France due to COVID, highly frustrating espacially because we have so much snow this year in the ALps !!! makes me suffer to look at that right now :D
video suggestion: top 5 best skis and why they're good skis
Love all your content!! What would your tips be on riding in powder. I use skis that are 95 under foot. Have only hit powder in a few ares. Around 5 or 6”. I ended up doing good for about 10 or 15’ then end up doing massive face plants!!! I only ski A couple times a year!!
I’m at a intermediate level. Thanks!
Advice for skiing powder is to lower your center of mass and ski with a centered stance instead of a forward stance, this will prevent your body from being bucked around. I would also make sure you are on light skis or skis with decent floatation, which is more important than under foot measurement.
Get thin skis and go skiing powder.
You will learn perfect front/aft balance. If not balanced you will dive forward or not be able to turn.
The other day I saw a junior on vintage (straight) Blizzard Firebird skis. He was a rad skier despite the old fashioned gear! Makes me cringe when I think back about my 207 Salomons... I clearly could not handle them!
Great job. It seems I have heard Russian "молодец" (molodec) on 11.47.
Allright Jens)
Brill 👍🏻
nice
Q. When carving should the inside ski be forward or behind the outside ski, your video seems to show inside ski forward, whereas another video on you tube says that the inside ski should always be behind. Very confused !
Hey man I just tore my MCL skiing today. Do you know any braces or something I could wear to prevent this from happening again. Cheers 🍻
Donjoy - since partial tear of ACL 2 years ago I ski at a high level with Donjoy full force brace and feels great
Wish we could be back in the snow can’t fly from U.K. to Switzerland
Do you do private lessons?
That’s a nice slop. Easy 30°
Crossunder and crossover it is not new school and the old school! That definitions explaining upper and lower body separation in the different turn shapes! Crossunder more in short radius turns and crossover in more super G and downhill
Lyonya, we need and use them both! You're right! It's been a while since we skied together!
13:36 That feeling when your bro doesn’t return the fist bump 😭
Gear setup vid
I saved this video, "get over it" drill from Burke Mtn Academy where Mikaela learned, she has perfected that early movement to the new outside ski: ua-cam.com/video/Bh7KF49GzOc/v-deo.html
Cool, I added it to my watch later :)
Where is Josh from is he in Europe?
Not an expert. It’s looks like there is a lot of bending at the waist. The feet seem to then have to be always ahead of the skier. Over powered by the boots? Therefore blocking the skier? If the feet spend more time under the body he could relax into a more neutral and less aggressive upper body position? Looks at deb Armstrong’s videos as an example. She recently talked about your arms can be forward but your body actually is not. Anyway good luck.
Thanks for the thoughtful feedback :) First thing Josh said when I showed him these two videos was damn I wish I was also correcting your bend by the hip and I agree too. But I do think he's drill on being heel heavy has been helping me to have a more upright torso when I went skiing the other day.
Deb's videos are very good, wish she would put more out.
@@StompItTutorials A bit more flexing of the ankle and a bit less folding at the waist should go a long way to help preventing you from getting "stuck" so far forward; ankle flexion is significantly more agile than the waist so it will make it easier to rapidly tune your position along the ski throughout the turn. Looking good though!
Deb Armstrong was retired Olympic racing winner. I think she need aggressive styles in order to earn her medals. When she swtich to coaching post, she may change her styles to suit most people. I come across two instructors one was a GS racer and one was recreational skiers. I learn most good thing from them. One was aggressive and burn your energy on track (resulting in strong graps and high speed turning), the other is more relax and teach you how to enjoy ski on track all days without exhausted feeling. Both of them are good, your need to feel and experience both aggressive and relax styles before you lined to what styles most suit you!!!
@@StompItTutorials What? Your forward leaning skiing wasn't just to make a point for this video - ua-cam.com/video/LsdRTUdx2U0/v-deo.html ? I was sure of it after two seconds into this clip.
I can teach Old Man Style turning as well.
How much does LAAX ski passes cost? I see 90 chf is it really that expensive ? Crazy
For a day pass on a weekend that sounds about right. It's costly but try ski North America you'll pay almost 2 times that.
Wow the difference is day n night
Gear setup knife
when you first learned to park ski🙂
It appears like you are bending forward at the waist and then arching your back up to get your shoulders up. I noticed that you are reaching down with your hand rather than forward. I think that is provoking the bending forward at the waist. Your instructors back is straight and his hands reach forward. I find this humility from someone who is so awesome at freestyle, but recognizes areas for improvement awesome.
Thank you for the kind feedback and tips🙏 Josh first words after showing the video to him was "darn I wish I also worked on making you upper body more straight" I fully agree with both of you and I think last time I took the slalom skis out that was better thanks to the heel pressure transition.
Lastly thanks for appreciating, me showing my faults and worst side of skiing. It's a scary thing to do but the right thing to do.
How did the first people ever even perfect this ?
Looking great! keep yer nipples pointing down the hill!
May I ask what spec ski's you are on ? I struggle with short piste turns on my Sky's when it gets lumpy and icy - but don't want anything longer or narrower for playing with on the same day...
Looks like your edge release is more of a push up than a roll over.
Orange jacket, you lean back...
I’d like to see someone ski a donut
"rotationial" lol
HOW ONE SKI BUM WAS TRYING TO TEACH ANOTHER SKI BUM HOW TO SKI !!!! -))))))))))))))
Man i know how to help you.
you have to use your abs more, and to do that you have to twist your butt forward, not up like you do. Try this at home when you squat and you'll see what I mean.
Crossunder is the opposite your write. Crossunder you are low with bend legs in all the phase of the turn and stand in the transition! In fact crossunder is used in bumps moguls because you turn the ski when leg are bend near body. In this video you always use crossover.
Your correct. On one extreme one can ski soo low the head dont move up/down (crossunder) and the other extreme your so tall the legs are completely straight and your as tall as possible (crossover). What would you then call something that is in-between these two extremes but is closer to crossunder than over?
I make life easy and say its a crossunder or it feels crossunder-ish. I think its more of a feeling of letting the knees coming up (crossunder) and the feeling of the head popping up (crossover). Its hard to fit all details in a video without making it boring.