Thank you for bring this up. I been flying for about 1 month and chosen the F-16 as my starter. Started this mission today, first run got a 14% about 6 runs later I am up 41%. I find trying to catch up to them in the beginning is my hardest part so far and throttle control. Also love the history they throw in there on the flight. Thanks for Sharing this and what you can for all of us to grow, thanks brother.
Thanks D0ppler - this is a great mission and just the first time doing I found myself having so much better throttle awareness and feel when flying the F-18.
Thanks for highlighting this and thanks to D0ppler for creating this mission, I tick all the boxes re being new to DCS and needing to practice this, so - winner ! Have a great Christmas, All the best for the coming year.
I am so glad that a great channel like yours exist for my all time favourtite module f16-C! Never stop with your amazing content please dude. I learned so much about this amazing aircraft from your channel
Awesome mission - she just told me that my result was way below standards, and I need to brush up on basics...on the upside, this was my second time, and at least I didn't lose her completely. Fantastic mission. 🙂
Found your channel recently as I just started getting into DCS and I got to say that your videos are a straight godsend and I dont know what I'd do without the videos, keep it up!
Thanks, great video. d0ppler's mission looks fantastic. I briefly joined an online group and they said "Go and practice with this offline formation mission" but I found it frustrating knowing what the lead was going to do, and also know how close I was supposed to get (you see videos where people are within touching distance of the wingtip next to them, which is impressive but not easy for a n00b). Great to see that this mission helps solve those problems. Also gives a way to track progress, very nice. I notice that there's a version for slower aircraft as well :)
Thanks for this! Need some practice as I usually fly with a friend but struggle to get on his wing, not to mention how poor I am at tanking. This will help plenty! Thanks BD!
Thanks to BOTH of you :) i NEED HELP for sure!! i still do not know how you are able to scream up on the lead...and just SHUT down to her speed like you do...making that part look so easy :) Again Thanks..off to PRACTICE land...swishhhh
Great training mission, however, I lose any authority with my Joystick randomly. The mission log at the end shows all sorts of system failures with the A/C.
Ah basics of flight. I'm old - i do remember when ppl knew they should learn how to fly before learning how to deploy munition. Nice one getting into that, let's make more ppl watch this.
I am learning to fly in DCS, havent even thought about munitions yet as I setup a quick formation mission (follow 3 jets with preset routes) and it was nearly impossible to stay anywhere near them. After I get the flight basic solidified, then I am going to work on learning ILS and TACAN so I can find the runways like a normal pilot instead of whatever the hell I am doing now.
Damn, there are some really clever people in the DCS community. This mission is just...dope (see what I did there?) In formation flying, my biggest problem is my hardware. I have the 3 piece bundle from Thrustmaster. The stick is not too bad, the throttle is actually pretty good, but the biggest issue is the pedals. They're not the push/pull like most, they are the slider type. There's no way to move them smoothly, all movements are jerky and rough. And once I do manage to close up behind the tanker, speed control is my biggest issue. I actually found that flying with the speed brakes about half deployed gives me some better control on speed. This trainer should help that out a bunch. Thanks for finding and posting.
Yayh! Where have you been BD good to see you’re back dude. Thanks for this, refuelling and formation flying are my worst nightmare so much so I just don’t do them 😢 anyway now you have highlighted this I’m looking forward to the training. Thanks to you and especially DOppler for what looks to be a fantastic training mission. Merry Christmas to you and you family BD take care and hope you have a very happy new year also.
Yeah, real life has been getting pretty intense, so I haven't been able to fly much. This was the first flight I've had in almost a month. Glad you liked it! Let d0ppler know on his file download page!
awesome mission! Ive been able to change Aircraft/skins/loadouts but would love to see this on all maps especially NTTR A cold and dark start version of this and sedlos BFM combined would be an amazing training package
Got the mission, thanks. If you know, can you give some more pointers-what are the recommended stack, line, and spacing references on the F-16 to stay in position? Also, when making the left turn (outside turn) are you leading with power before the turn? And are you staying level with the horizon or going up above it slightly to stay on the same position on the lead’s wing? Thanks for the help!
Awesome video. Shared it with my buddy! It was funny because we were talking about formation flying and this dropped less than an hour later. One question if you don't mind- How do you have your call sign on your ICP?
I feel like it’s extremely difficult to formation fly without track ir because I can’t move my mouse while both hands are on my hotas. It was easy to formation fly with a controller because you could hold everything in one hand so you could use your other hand to move your mouse
Thanks for posting this. Wholly tough to keep formation with AI. You mentioned AAR in your description, do you have any recommended videos for AAR for the Viper?
I gotta say, when I tried it I didn't like it at all. I like to come in very close and the abrupt 45° turns where a deal breaker for me. And the (cool) voice warning where rather an audio verification of what I was already seeing when the AI announced it's turn, rather than a heads up. Did you feel this way? Btw by close formation I mean: My nose cuddles with the other vipers outer pylon by 1-3m or so A bit disappointed. Thanks for the video though, I suspect for learning formation flying it's a great ressource.
as SOON as she starts to roll, push the throttle up and begin catching up. That would be my advice. Just don't push the throttle before she starts rolling or she wont take off. Wait till she starts to roll, and then take off immediately and try and take off with her.
Yeah I've been doing that as you recommended in the video. If I go full burner on the takeoff I'll actually overtake her on the runway before she rotates. Just trying to find that sweet spot that puts me in position when the timer starts. Ive only managed a B grade so far but its a skill issue that takes time. Thank you for taking the time to reply.
I have a few questions that maybe somebody might know as it relates to the F16. I can use adaptive cruise control in my car to keep a consistent distance between the car Infront of me and my self. Shouldn't the F16 have something similar when air refueling? keeping an exact distance away from the tanker making it easier to refuel or fly formation? It seems with todays technology this would be possible. Another question is do real pilots actually have to boresight their AGMs? It seems like this is something that was required in the 90s but I would have thought in 2022 the military with all their smart people found a better way of doing this that is not manual.
This is great, but the legs are so shirt. I am horrible at this, and by the time I get myself in a decent position, she changes directions. Maybe make an alt version with much longer legs...
Hello mate, nice video. I have a question for you: While "DCS" is super smooth in your videos, it can stutter while I'm playing, even though the FPS is high. Have you ever had such a problem? Or do you have a solution?
Yes. I believe everyone has this issue from time to time. I sure do. We are hopeful that the future release of multithreading will help alleviate it. We'll see.
Thanks for the mission im already at 95% after one day. I also want to point out that a proper stick is a big part in this(I recommend the vkb gladiator for budget)
ei man, pode compartilhar seu perfil de reshade? esta otimo gostaria de te-lô... "hey man, can you share your reshade profile? it's great I'd like to see you"
When my name was on the canopy of an F-16, there were sidewinders on the wingtips. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:F-16C_Fighting_Falcon_fires_an_AIM-9_Sidewinder.jpg
Thank you for bring this up. I been flying for about 1 month and chosen the F-16 as my starter. Started this mission today, first run got a 14% about 6 runs later I am up 41%. I find trying to catch up to them in the beginning is my hardest part so far and throttle control. Also love the history they throw in there on the flight. Thanks for Sharing this and what you can for all of us to grow, thanks brother.
I can fly formation no problem. I want this mission just for my hot, AI, F-16 , girlfriend to tell me what to do.
Y’all already went to live together?
If you follow her til she parks, you'll see the pilot is actually a man! 😅
Thanks D0ppler - this is a great mission and just the first time doing I found myself having so much better throttle awareness and feel when flying the F-18.
Thanks for highlighting this and thanks to D0ppler for creating this mission, I tick all the boxes re being new to DCS and needing to practice this, so - winner ! Have a great Christmas, All the best for the coming year.
I am so glad that a great channel like yours exist for my all time favourtite module f16-C! Never stop with your amazing content please dude. I learned so much about this amazing aircraft from your channel
Awesome mission - she just told me that my result was way below standards, and I need to brush up on basics...on the upside, this was my second time, and at least I didn't lose her completely. Fantastic mission. 🙂
Found your channel recently as I just started getting into DCS and I got to say that your videos are a straight godsend and I dont know what I'd do without the videos, keep it up!
Thanks, great video. d0ppler's mission looks fantastic. I briefly joined an online group and they said "Go and practice with this offline formation mission" but I found it frustrating knowing what the lead was going to do, and also know how close I was supposed to get (you see videos where people are within touching distance of the wingtip next to them, which is impressive but not easy for a n00b). Great to see that this mission helps solve those problems. Also gives a way to track progress, very nice. I notice that there's a version for slower aircraft as well :)
u honestly have the most badass outro ever, i get hyped everytime i hear it
This is EXACTLY what I needed. Thanks as always, BD! Good to see you back!
Not struggling myself but the people I fly with are, so that's very handy.
Thank you for sharing this good sir.
Great stuff, thanks for sharing man. Awesome work by D0ppler for the mission, really helpful.
Thanks for this! Need some practice as I usually fly with a friend but struggle to get on his wing, not to mention how poor I am at tanking. This will help plenty!
Thanks BD!
Thanks to BOTH of you :) i NEED HELP for sure!! i still do not know how you are able to scream up on the lead...and just SHUT down to her speed like you do...making that part look so easy :) Again Thanks..off to PRACTICE land...swishhhh
This is amazing I love it thank you so much for whoever created this and came up with the idea!
This looks amazingly useful! Definitely on my to-do list after Christmas!
yesssir
best vids got me from 0 to 999,999% of full knowing how to fly that small and fast bird
Great training mission, however, I lose any authority with my Joystick randomly. The mission log at the end shows all sorts of system failures with the A/C.
Ah basics of flight. I'm old - i do remember when ppl knew they should learn how to fly before learning how to deploy munition. Nice one getting into that, let's make more ppl watch this.
I am learning to fly in DCS, havent even thought about munitions yet as I setup a quick formation mission (follow 3 jets with preset routes) and it was nearly impossible to stay anywhere near them. After I get the flight basic solidified, then I am going to work on learning ILS and TACAN so I can find the runways like a normal pilot instead of whatever the hell I am doing now.
i am fighting to launch a maverick...will learn to take off and land some other day :) LOL...now what button was that again?
This is a game not the military sir
Damn, there are some really clever people in the DCS community. This mission is just...dope (see what I did there?) In formation flying, my biggest problem is my hardware. I have the 3 piece bundle from Thrustmaster. The stick is not too bad, the throttle is actually pretty good, but the biggest issue is the pedals. They're not the push/pull like most, they are the slider type. There's no way to move them smoothly, all movements are jerky and rough. And once I do manage to close up behind the tanker, speed control is my biggest issue. I actually found that flying with the speed brakes about half deployed gives me some better control on speed. This trainer should help that out a bunch. Thanks for finding and posting.
Awesome, highlighting this mission! Thanks to the developer!
Yayh! Where have you been BD good to see you’re back dude. Thanks for this, refuelling and formation flying are my worst nightmare so much so I just don’t do them 😢 anyway now you have highlighted this I’m looking forward to the training. Thanks to you and especially DOppler for what looks to be a fantastic training mission. Merry Christmas to you and you family BD take care and hope you have a very happy new year also.
Yeah, real life has been getting pretty intense, so I haven't been able to fly much. This was the first flight I've had in almost a month. Glad you liked it! Let d0ppler know on his file download page!
Ok! Will do thanks for your awesome videos and tutorials keep them coming. Take care sir.
Thank you for sharing this mission and video. You make it look so easy.
That’s brilliant, thanks for posting!
Excellent video, hope you had a happy holiday
just download 3 days ago and it's stunning and fun flying in VR...
Thanks for the info. Just what I needed.
awesome mission! Ive been able to change Aircraft/skins/loadouts but would love to see this on all maps especially NTTR
A cold and dark start version of this and sedlos BFM combined would be an amazing training package
Awesome thank you for showing us this
How can I get that name over the icp ?
Time within parameters 100%, time within perfect parameters 95%. I guess that will do. Got a rank of General, and a grade of A++ :D
Nice!
Got the mission, thanks. If you know, can you give some more pointers-what are the recommended stack, line, and spacing references on the F-16 to stay in position? Also, when making the left turn (outside turn) are you leading with power before the turn? And are you staying level with the horizon or going up above it slightly to stay on the same position on the lead’s wing? Thanks for the help!
Great video. Nice outro.
this looks really helpful, I'm definitely going to check it out. Thanks for bringing attention to d0ppler's work, @BOGEY DOPE!
I see your name on the ICP edge. How did you add that? Looks so cool!
Great mission man. Just picked the f16 and it will help me for sure
Awesome, I wonder if we can change the airframes on the back end???
Ow sweet I need this ! Thanks
This is a must have!
can you share your reshade profile ? looks gorgeous
I don’t have any of them modules and I have trialed all of them is there any other ones for f-15 or SU-27 and 33
Hey Brother, Love your vids.
Quick question.. How did you get your name inside the cockpit? Would love to know how to do it.
Did dcs changed the flight model for the F16 I feel like I’m all over the place. My Hotas and Stick settings haven’t changed.
can you make a tutorial on how do you edit the texture of the cockpit putting your channel name?
Really starting to miss your presence in the community
hello!
Great vid but how is your camera shaking so smooth?
Hey I added the F15E with mission editor but now the script won’t start so no idea of how I’m doing?
Anyone know where to get a hold of d0ppler, the update did something unfortunate to the mission...
Awesome video. Shared it with my buddy! It was funny because we were talking about formation flying and this dropped less than an hour later. One question if you don't mind- How do you have your call sign on your ICP?
Thanks for the mission spotlight! Do you have any recommendations for similar landing patterns or manual bombing with grading?
I wish it had Kunsan tower ATC controller voice from Falcon 4.0 ;)
I feel like it’s extremely difficult to formation fly without track ir because I can’t move my mouse while both hands are on my hotas. It was easy to formation fly with a controller because you could hold everything in one hand so you could use your other hand to move your mouse
why do your planes look more detailed do you have higher sharpness?
great mission, thanks
Bogey this is great! been waiting for someone with the skills to do this. Now. How about one for piston fighters? I will ask Doppler...
Hi! What specific plane do you want? I can add it in the "slow jets" version. A spit can cope with an A-10 in terms of speed, right?
Thanks for posting this. Wholly tough to keep formation with AI. You mentioned AAR in your description, do you have any recommended videos for AAR for the Viper?
Here is one I did about a year ago if you would like to check it out. ua-cam.com/video/R6RCRk6qV6U/v-deo.html
I gotta say, when I tried it I didn't like it at all. I like to come in very close and the abrupt 45° turns where a deal breaker for me. And the (cool) voice warning where rather an audio verification of what I was already seeing when the AI announced it's turn, rather than a heads up.
Did you feel this way? Btw by close formation I mean: My nose cuddles with the other vipers outer pylon by 1-3m or so
A bit disappointed. Thanks for the video though, I suspect for learning formation flying it's a great ressource.
When will tankers warn of upcoming turns? This has been missing for way too long.
With the upcoming KC-130 module we can finally have players pilot them and warn us! Wish we could get a playable KC-135 for that reason too.
My favorite formation trainer fa sho!! Just wish the A-10 was added as well
I so need this!
Any tips on getting in the initial formation? I seem to be either overshooting the AI or not closing quickly enough before it starts the counter.
as SOON as she starts to roll, push the throttle up and begin catching up. That would be my advice. Just don't push the throttle before she starts rolling or she wont take off. Wait till she starts to roll, and then take off immediately and try and take off with her.
Yeah I've been doing that as you recommended in the video. If I go full burner on the takeoff I'll actually overtake her on the runway before she rotates. Just trying to find that sweet spot that puts me in position when the timer starts.
Ive only managed a B grade so far but its a skill issue that takes time.
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
Wish they would make the tanker with the basket more realistic. It's way too easy.
I have a few questions that maybe somebody might know as it relates to the F16. I can use adaptive cruise control in my car to keep a consistent distance between the car Infront of me and my self. Shouldn't the F16 have something similar when air refueling? keeping an exact distance away from the tanker making it easier to refuel or fly formation? It seems with todays technology this would be possible.
Another question is do real pilots actually have to boresight their AGMs? It seems like this is something that was required in the 90s but I would have thought in 2022 the military with all their smart people found a better way of doing this that is not manual.
This is great, but the legs are so shirt. I am horrible at this, and by the time I get myself in a decent position, she changes directions. Maybe make an alt version with much longer legs...
Hello mate, nice video. I have a question for you: While "DCS" is super smooth in your videos, it can stutter while I'm playing, even though the FPS is high. Have you ever had such a problem? Or do you have a solution?
Yes. I believe everyone has this issue from time to time. I sure do. We are hopeful that the future release of multithreading will help alleviate it. We'll see.
@@BogeyDope Thanks a lot for your reply, see you soon.
Thanks for the mission im already at 95% after one day. I also want to point out that a proper stick is a big part in this(I recommend the vkb gladiator for budget)
This addon can also work in DCS steam?
Yes. Instructions are in this video at 3:28
dang, is your reshade video settings the same that you are using in this video? it looks so vivid.
Yes. Same settings as in my reshade video. I haven't changed them yet.
Now add a busy cockpit and try sorting and managing targets.
What if I didn't purchase the F-16?
He has included many other airframes. You don't have to have the F-16 to fly this mission.
Thanks for the heads up! Nice and fun mission! Such a shame you can't control the AI roll rate though. It would be easier to get the 100% perfection.
Is there a way to that trough steam?😢🙏
Yes. Works for DCS steam version as well
@BogeyDope how do I download it? So that I can use it
As stated at the end of the video, link in description. @@basically_pontus
Thank you!
This mission is too difficult for those who didn't fly formations before. The lead is too unpredictable
ei man, pode compartilhar seu perfil de reshade? esta otimo gostaria de te-lô... "hey man, can you share your reshade profile? it's great I'd like to see you"
Great mission but i need a lot of work! 🙂
A "F'n" Way...😎
I'm downloading just to hear her tell me what to do. 😜
Can you start a discord server?
I have 3% perfect and 57% within parameters
You still with us BD? Been a while since you posted anything. Just a concerned fan. DCS is kinda boring with out guys like you
I appreciate this. I am hopefully going to post something soon to explain my MIA status. Thanks for the comment.
Sad war thunder noises! 🤦🏾♂️
WINGTIP SIDEWINDERS. 😡
When my name was on the canopy of an F-16, there were sidewinders on the wingtips. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:F-16C_Fighting_Falcon_fires_an_AIM-9_Sidewinder.jpg
"she"