This Is A Problem In 2024…
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Years ago Moates was making a big comeback... Today sadly it's not a great option anymore. Let's talk about some different options for tuning your foxbody in 2024!
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You forgot the true budget option of the calibrated Maf. 302, tfs heads, 255 pump, vortech, 42lb injectors and a btm. I may be leaving hp on the table but the car has been running smooth and trouble free for years like this.
you're supposed to use an f3v2 chip when you get the tune dialed in. no battery.
Dirty dirty racing aka Willie lynch is a beast for the foxs which ever computer you got he is the goat
Does he remote tune?
Yes he is remote & does a fantastic job.Had my boosted 351w on e85 perfect!@@BREW2LFOXBODY
@@BREW2LFOXBODY yes
I’ve heard the same from Woody at Fordstrokers about Dirty Dirty racing.
Willie called me on a Saturday and walked me through everything. Super nice guy.
Willie at dirty dirty racing still tunes Binary Editor and QH and my car has never had that problem ever weird. Also, he sends the tunes through email so you will always have em. But make sure when you buy Binary Editor buy lifetime issue because laptops die and you have to spend more money buying it again lol. This is why i went Gen3 10r80 in my foxbody and it rips and runs perfect ice cold a/c and no problems at all. Coyote for life lol
"Decipha" from EFIDynoTuning. One of the best for a9l quarterhorse tuning
@brew2l, this is why I got the Jaybird (burns the tune to a chip) and a chip. The QH is mainly to tune the car, not really to stay in permanently, because of the battery issue like you mentioned, I’ve been in the same boat lol.
I want to go with a mega squirt on mine The big perk of that over the micro is you can use both types of injectors
Its always been told to me that the 9AL is a self learning computer. Ive had many many fox body mustangs and with blowers, no tune and been fine. If my Mustangs were supercharged, I set the timing at 10° and up my fuel pressure. Now with field pressure every car is different. So that is something I just feel. Very good drivability .
Holley terminator x with M.F Kustoms adapter almost makes everything plug and play. Keeps gauges and ac working like factory.
Agreed
@@Foxbody_Guy it just works, which is awesome.
@@BREW2LFOXBODYI think this is where I’m going.
I've owned my '94 for 20 years, and the best thing I have ever done to it was by a Terminator X and the M.F. Kustoms adapter.
What's the point of the $850 dollar adapter? The Holley itself can retain all functionality of stock systems if you just follow the instructions?
Great information Brother! Appreciate you and all the valuable advice you give us! 💯👊🏾
Appreciate that 💯
i also am tuned by willie from dirt dirty racing. highly recommend. also have u not tried changing out your quarterhorse back up battery?
You think tuning a fox body is bad. Try a SN95 (94-95). There’s almost no support on the cheaper mega/ Microsquirt. So that leaves Holley ecu’s plus the $700 adapter just to keep the stock wiring. I’m almost ready to get rid of my cobra and find a roller fox body.
That sucks
Try finding a tuning solution for a SN95 with a AODE/4R70W LOL
@@Hotrodgeorge855 i follow you in the IG. What are you using for tuning?
@@last302
I'll take crank windows and a T5... And AC.
Do a coyote swap
Just paid $24k for a 92 50k original mile original paint 2 owner Calypso 5.0 5spd hatch. 1 of 588 in 1992. and yes, I ONE HUNDRED % intend on driving it. lol
I have terminator x and I'm ready for dyno tune or remote, I see talk about dirty dirty racing, i have decent run around data logs.
Andrew's notch is the best sounding car when revved on the channel.. Imo that's exactly how a pushrod sbf should sound!
Since day 1 i got my fox i knew i was gonna change out that old factory ecu. I personally went with an MS3 gold box since i knew i was gonna go turbo and wanted a few extra inputs and outputs and till this day no regrets. Been learning tuning myself little by little. The microsquirt ecu is a great entry level for a fox, it will do everything you need. And Andrew is 100% right, Holley terminator X is the best when it comes to user friendly.
This is why when my ecu died and I really needed an ecu that could be tuned and looking at all the options. Price point parts availability and the fact I daily my fox. I chose a Holley carb. If you know what you’re doing with a carb they are perfectly streetable. And I have over the counter parts available to get it back on the road. I know and have made all the arguments for an ecu and 10-20 years ago they were all true. Now with the very limited and kind of exotic aftermarket options I think we will see more carbed foxes than ever. It did pain me to do it after years of arguing for keeping them efi.
I agree, I have a 93 Cobra, 347, charged , 60 LBS injectors….My car is tuned by an old school Diablo chip lol. Believe it or not it runs great and works well, I know im leaving a little on the table,but to me its a small price to pay to be era correct i suppose. Term X for the win , I f i need to switch it up, it will be termi X for me
Love the rooster !!😂
Good looking coupe for sure
I used a Speed Brain in the late 90s early 2000s, worked great easy to tune, never had a problem, don't know why they never caught on
Core Tuning....Adam Marrer. He was one of the founders and still tunes. The Quarterhorse is supposed to be for tuning, then you burn the tune to a chip.
I'm in the middle of assembling a speeduino for my 96. $200 could get you everything needed. It uses tuner studio just like the megasquirt, won't be as easy as a pnp but saves a lot of money. I'm getting a v6 ecu just to hollow it out and try to hook this up to the correct pins internally so I can swap back to my stock if needed. Thinking about making a video about it
so close to spitting out my coffee with the choke your chicken line . the coupe sounds great ! sorry to see it go
So many people sleep on Pro-M Efi. Holley if you want to tune it, Pro-M if you want to drive it.
I wondered what happened with leech. I went with holley on mine couple years ago. And haven’t looked back.
makes me seriously regret letting go of my trunk fox. im old so thats what we called em years ago.
😂😂 holley must need to show an earnings report soon with all channels pushing stuff
could have sworn I saw another company making those chips that moates used to make, and there are several options out there for ecu options its crazy LOL It all depends on what you want, what car car is used for, and all that good stuff. You can pick up good used stand alone ecus cheaply under 1000 for the ecu, ecumasters is a wicked ecu with a lot of features and 3 models of ecus starting at $800, holley of course, haltech can be picked up 2nd hand at a good price, emtron ecus which are up there with motec ecus but cheaper. But, you'd have to make a jumper harness or full harness. I've messed with most of the software for these as I'm upgrading my unit and they aren't hard to use. Also depends on if your tuning it or if your going to a tuner as well.
Pro-m racing for me.. mass air/ new harness.. wide band o2’s .. 86 mustang 363 runs well
Raffle the notch
I love my Megasquirt. It took me over a year to learn how to tune the idle though 😂
That’s the worst part imo
I'm still whittling away at mine (I have the MSPNP)...part throttle and WOT are trivial compared with getting cold start and idle straight.
Lol.. that white coupe sounds "ROWDY ROWDY"
I mean I know guys with 1000hp fox body’s on Holley shit. It works just fine.
I want that car so badly.
The Retro is my favorite, then the Carbon
@@mattcox3373 I like them all, but that coupe the boy is selling would be good here. I need one more the both my girls will have one too.
Where would the coupe be listed? I’m looking to buy a new fox but I know you said you won’t sell on the channel
I love my TerminatorX but Aces Swears to me they are more user friendly. Aces efi is all ex Holley people.
Badass LMR has the foxbody terminator x in stock again
I’ve really enjoyed my Terminator X. We’ll see what happens now that I have a turbo.
I like my Tweecer and have used it for many years...
He's letting you know who's the boss. I grew up on a farm so I know how it is.
Oh yeah.. he tries us all the time. But I got a “chicken stick” for those times. lol
Good information! Editing looked fine.
What do you recommend for people doing a 5.0 from a 4cyl? I’m thinking of going Holley but idk
I recommend Holley terminator x
I use something called a pimpxs looks like a stock computer but u can tune it like a Holley and mega squirt
It IS a megasquirt3 after all :) ...had I known these were out there, I would have bought one instead of the MSPNP that I have now (it's MS2 based, less powerful than the MS3).
Sounds like a bad situation. Maybe pick up a few battery tenders to try to keep the batteries up?
Those birds are so rude interrupting you videos haha😂 It was pretty funny actually.
they keep it up and we’ll be having chicken tenders for dinner 🍽️ 🤣
@@BREW2LFOXBODY 😂 😂 😂
@@BREW2LFOXBODY
Dogs do what dogs do
Roosters do what roosters do.
Cats just look at you like you're dumb.
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YeeeHaaaw!! 😎😎
I just bought the fox body Terminator X kit from LMR and will install on my 1991 GT
Does it come with the bracket for under the seat?
Yes, this is the 936F kit again. Idle Air Control pre wired, sensors and the bracket for under the passenger seat!
What about looking into pro-m racing for their stand alone? I know it’s a bit expensive, but I think when it’s time I’ll lean towards them
I love the pro m. Ti trim 408
The issue with Pro-M Racing is getting them on the phone to help support. We've swapped a number of those out just because of the lack of support.
That was one of my biggest concerns. Support either from manufacturers or from tuners can make or break something
@@angry408w7 it’s not a bad system, I tune it. Support was our issue.
I sure will be looking into the terminator x thanks for the info ✌
I'd like to go with a terminator setup with coil near plug. When you want something like traction control, you're forced to buy their pricier unit $$$$. I hope you're right and the prices come down.
Watch out for the dual sync distributors, unfortunately a lot of failures. I believe the Termx does have a couple traction control strategies now. I run Coil near plug setup and traction control on my ms3 PNP it works very well using front abs speed sensor (94-04 spindles) and transmission vss comparison. Should be able to do the same or similar on the termx but i believe the strategy for it "perfect pass" vs two actual sensors
Love the artic fox
Have factory a9l went for a couple hundred mile cruise parked couple hours didn’t wanna start started drove 5 miles home next day no start finally got it started super rough idle just dumping fuel 10:1 at idle injectors good just replaced sensors having a9l rebuilt now if that’s not it maybe the tune need reflashed ..
That's certainly sounds like an issue with the ECU, I've seen a few of them do that personally, the fuel pump doesn't turn off with key on, and just floods the cylinders.
Do you have any experience or opinions on the Anderson performance terminator x kit ?
Have a megasquirt for sale
Switched to term x
I wish I had the money for a clean coupe I say hold on to it that 25k will be coming sooner then later they aren't losing value unless you really need to move it unless your paying storage cost for it
What about pro-m racing?
My fox is down right now smh rear transmission seal is leaking and a lil shakes at 80mph
I have 95 GT and i want to make it less slow I bought an explorer intake but so far that's it, but now I'm thinking is carb swap the ticket... I can cost over a couple thousand to hop up EFI, $800 intake $300 throttle body, $? injectors, $350 upgraded fuel pump then a $1000+ for stand alone... Or $250 intake $500 carb and done! Same or potentially more power... If going boost EFI prob the way to go but for an na street beater? Would Andrew go carb swap again if he did it over?
Go carb, put on a nitrous plate, and an electronic ignition device to pull timing of your choice. You can spray these motors with 150shots all day and have a blast whopping on newer cars.. I hope you have someone to help you learn how to read spark plugs, fuel pressure & afr's..
Love your content, but you need to stop telling people to stay away from the QH. Core Tuning has taken over and has plenty of product. I had my car tuned by them remotely. There is a support for this product. They do a ton of remote tuning. BTW, your Holley system isn't without it's issues. Run the battery low and try to start it, it can wipe the tune and also corrupt the PROM. Holley knows, but is keeping it quiet.
I have a megasquirt sitting in the shop because of whacky idle and jerking at low speeds in town, now granted I do have a b21 cam/afr heads/rpm2 intake/70tb/24lb inj's/bullet meter but the car never ran right. I gave some thought about the mega issues and thought there is no reason I cant make the car run right with the stock computer as back in the day I had a custom grind Bennet cam which had way more duration and under 480 lift as I raced that car in the old FFW Trophy Stock Class and that car idled and ran great with the stock computer albeit playing with fuel pressure settings/tps/timing. So I pulled the mega and stuck the a3m back in the car and used the old tricks and the car idles great with no issues of surging/jerking and you yourself can attest to that as you heard my '93 reef blue coupe idling while i was talking to some other folks when I pulled down to show Brent the old unopended mac pro chamber I got that saturday at fordtakeover. Now granted I'll be the first to say I most likely should hook a afr gauge up to just see where thats at now and without question a real tune would help the car but so far it runs fine and I do have a new moates sitting in a a9l if I wanted to go that route but for now the car has been fine.
I wish I had your crew. My long term fox and new edge budy turned LS. On me and frankly I don't give a crap about corvette. Is a c6 the best bang for your buck of the century you bet ya. But... who cares lol 😆 😂 old school 90s ground pounders out there trying to make it happen that's my draw. Ps. I may have fell for his trail blazer ss stroker with a stall converter. Though quick suvs are kinda fun
selling my red fox body for 18k obo
cant drive it the 120miles to and from work. it needs to go runs and drives with ac and black interior car has 91k miles
Is no one doing old fashioned SCT chips on factory ECUs anymore?
Is battery tender a viable option?
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Question:
'90 T5 A9L.
Would the Explorer heads, intake, and TB require a tune?
How about throwing in an E cam?
Anybody have this experience?
Thank you ALL for your interesting videos and comments. 👍👍😎
YeeeeeHaaaaaw!!! 😆
So pretty much if your mustang is in stock form it’s not going to run, I’ve been doing the base idle reset every way possible, runs good one day next it’s all to crap
Buy a new TPS, (throttle position sensor) its probably going out and will cause erratic signals causing erratic idle characteristics and eventually rev hang, I used to always keep a spare in my glove box, prob used to change 1-2 a year..
@@Clutch_Kick187 yeah I thought about buying a new tps an a iac, an try that, my idle was good, but it would bog down when ya got on it, took the mass air flow out cleaned it and that fixed the bogging down, then this idling problem started
That coupe is the 💩!!! Love it. I’d keep it off I were you.
A9L and moates quarter horse is definitely not the way to go .
Can you give me a name of a good shop for the foxbodys suspension upgrades.
It’s wild that in such an advanced computer age, it’s still so fucking expensive and difficult to tune your car. How is it still so hard lmao
Because they're very complex systems, wiring ain't cheap, and they're built to have minimal failure rates, some not quite as good as an OE quality but some built beyond OE standards
Whats the set up on the white notch
😂 poor chicken
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Did you efi your old mustang the 60s mustang you have. I guess i missed that video
No it’s just controlling timing
Where’s the calypso green turbo car
In the garage. It’ll be coming out soon hopefully. After the 65 is finished
Still have stinger performance that a PNP and it’s megasquirt 3 base and is leech still around doing tunes
No. Read through the comments for recommended tuner.
I remote tune MS2 and MS3 daily if you need help
And yet you guys still haven’t put in a PRO M EFI.
Why not?
I guess I need to look into it. Is it easy to learn to tune yourself?
Apparently it's very easy. I'm suprised more people don't use it. Comparable in price and ive read it's the best. Would make a great video to try it out.
@@BREW2LFOXBODYI personally own and use a Pro M. There is really no actual tuning to be done. While it is pricy, all I did was hook it up and enter in some basic info. As long as you’ve got good injector data and a good MAF transfer data sheet, you’re good to go.
Please sale me the coupe! Love the channel
People are just buying modern cars either fast ice or ev. Mustang 500hp,dodges500hp,chevys500hp,lexus500hp. Even Damm suv 500hp.
i ave micro on mine and if my dumb a$$ can make it work anyone can.
thar rooster lmao
Have you looked at the aces funky has Several good videos on his n good prices.. You're not telling me anything about the price going up after my car was destroyed just to get another coupe was ridiculous..
Aces?
Funky stangs..
Down here in rust free country there's rust free, wreck free coupes, FBs, and capris parked...
Nobody will part from them.
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@@hotrodray6802check FL
I’m In Ohio if I would buy that notch it would look great in my garage. That’s a great looking car.
I'll bet it ain't rusty either 👍👍😆😆