"Evidence that demands a verdict " by Josh McDowell great book for Apologists it came out in the late 80's a newer 2018 version is available. We started studying this back in the day our pastor was big on defending the faith. Rare in the 1990's in South Central Los Angeles we found a blessing!!! Our pastor wanted us equipped!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🔥
Thank God for Glory Baptist Church in West Philadelphia. This was a church filled with black men in a pastor who could teach and preach the Bible with his eyes shut!!! I'm so grateful did I grew up in that church in the hood. Because those teaching still this day has kept me grounded and has solidified my faith in Jesus Christ. So many people think that there weren't any solid churches in the black communities. However I came from one I can't tell you again how grateful I am that God did that for me in my family!!!!
Perfect response. All episode. The whole conversation was well-discussed. Apologetics is so needed from Christians now, because we run into so many that have been confused by atheism, or hebrew Israelite, or new age. And being able to defend your faith entails being able to break it down to someone else so they can follow tge trail back to Truth.
I'm only half-way through, but I just wanted to say God bless y'all!!!!! This may be one of the most, if not THE most sound channels I've come across on the topic/truth of Christianity(my judgment of its soundness comes from the Holy Spirit). As someone who only recently came (back) into the faith, after leaving 8 years ago at 18, you guys are doing important work. It's only so much Bible you can read in a day, and you can die tomorrow. So all us baby readers have, during time of initial study, is the words of what others “know” and the Holy Spirit to filter truth. In the meantime, thank you guys so much for y'all's obedience to God and being grounded in His Word. & I thank God that His gifts of power, love and a sound mind are in HIGH saturation, on this channel. Keep it up! Love ♥️
He is teaching the doctrine of demons. He said before his roles that he opened himself spiritually to something other worldly like demonic entities. He is deceived for real. GOD bless everyone in Jesus’s Holy name.
What it do Guys!! 1st time watching complete show, not love but usually just catch clips. Keep reppin the LORD fellas, love the show!! Blessings, BK in KC
My opinion is that the root of many of these deceptive doctrines is that many Christians do not believe the Bible/Word of God is the Truth. I believe at some point every Christian has to ask themselves "Do I really believe the Bible is true, free of any errors, and complete in and of itself." IF you say "No" to that of course you have no foundation to stand on concerning your beliefs. The foundation of what Christians are to believe is found in God's Word. When they Holy Spirit speaks to us (audibly) He will not contradict the Word of God. We have to come to a point where we Trust God's Word.
Ephesians 4:17-32 living and walking in your new Christ identity. This was some verses I recently used to walking in faith daily and growing my relationship with my girlfriend. Keep it simple and put scripture on your identity.
This is why it’s sooo important to know the origin of God. Meaning all the names of God and what they all mean. I recommend reading The Power of the names of God by Tony Evans!
Jesus went into Egpyt when his mom was pregnant with him to be preserved from Herod who sought to kill him. That's why God called Jesus out of Egypt. It is also a parallel to Joseph who was also preserved in Egypt from death to save the world from a famine. Jesus saves the world from our sin.
Jesus lived a similar life like us. It’s easily described why he would have saw and maybe learned from what he saw as we do. Doesn’t mean he was faithful to any other deity. Jesus is sinless. “For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin”
1:03:51 that would be very valuable!! plz do some episodes or Zoom calls, something on that 😂. the Body needs it. the Spirit of God is speaking to the saints right now concerning false teaching. we need to be equipped. it’s beautiful to witness His Spirit moving in the earth. ❤️🙏🏾
My wife and I have the hardest time converAting she is East African and a lot of it is superstitious about cats witches and division amongst people to pointing evil than the human error or experience. And I feel angered by her interaction towards the trolls that most are because she does tend to alienate them as just people due to these misunderstanding
I would like to learn more about the Hebrew Israelitefaith. I have a cousin who used to be a bold in the faith but has now adopted the Hebrew Israelite faith. It is destroying his family- and has begun to alienate himself from his wife and 3 daughters. 😢
Thank you so very much! I came across your podcast a few months ago, as it continued to pop up after viewing other podcasts that I trust I wasn't sure if you'd was truly of God as there are so many popping up. I decided one day this week to tune in, and I'm grateful I did! 💝 Thank you for your diligence in dissecting and sharing the word of God. The dialog that I dialogue that I have witnessed is encouraging! Praise God for each of you. I pray that He blesses your ministry and your mission as you continue to follow and serve Him.
I always argue with people that say you must study more to know God. This is also the reason why many have drifted from God, studying much stuff. God is also the God of those who are illiterate, low IQ etc (whatever labels). In the beginning was the word.... This is not equivalent to some textbook (In the beginning was a textbook)....
Also, anyone can study, A Muslim reads the Quran, A mathematician study maths, Christians read the bible etc but what I think makes a huge difference in Christianity is the relationship with Jesus through prayer (constantly talking to each other about anything, anytime, anywhere). A relationship that is so personal, more than that of husband and wife, father and daughter etc. If the heart can be opened, the mark of the relationship can be seen through it. That is what makes reading the bible (if we can) different from everyone .......
The problem is, people keep asking regular people to explain or demonstrate the super hero's powers, go to God himself. It's because those people aren't looking for the truth they're looking to be proven right that God can't possibly exist because their brains can't wrap around that belief, so they keep getting into discussions with believers and believers use scriptures that non believers already don't believe in, so they are just looking for holes in the logic, not open to anything. When all you need to say is if you truly want to know the truth go to the source. God is not people. He is the only one who can demonstrate his true power to a non believer so tell them to humble themselves and give him a real shot without going to him with your preconceived doubts, clear your heart and ask him to show you what you need to see to believe. Because if you are just arguing just to be right, what's the point? you're not interested in being saved you just want to prove you cannot be. Your salvation is between you and God and if you really cared to know you would ask him yourself. Basically I can tell you that stars exist all day but it means nothing if you never turn your own neck to look up at them.- ME
Jesus calls "deeper truth" or "hidden/secret knowledge", the depths of Satan in Rev. 2:24 "But I also have a message for the rest of you in Thyatira who have not followed this false teaching (‘deeper truths,’ as they call them-depths of Satan, actually). I will ask nothing more of you"
Ben Carson is leading ppl away from Christ. Ppl who don't have a relationship with Jesus listen to him. At 16:12, when he said Jesus traveled & studied all those different religions, it is just ridiculous....Jesus is God, He's not studying other religions. We must remember we are living in the in times, and even the elite will be deceived before the second coming of God. God have mercy on us all 🙏
Yes. Because he wasn't God. That is not what James and the disciples believed about Jesus and was not mainstream Christianity for the first three centuries..
@@nunya54 mmm Except when people pray to him, he speaks back and answers their prayers. Demons also respond to his name. That would be crazy if a dead man in the past is doing all this..
You have to look at the whole interview where he describes the scientific aspec cause he is a chemist by schooling, so most don't see the coalition between God & science.
I listen to Billy Carson, he has some good scientific insights, but when it comes to God he is probably just like many other Physics professors who are non-believers. If you want to learn about farming go to a farmer, if you want to learn history go to a historian etc, and if you want to know God start with the church. Every Farmer has an opinion about farming, but the actual farmer knows best. Always guard your heart.
Conversations like this is the reason why we been enslaved for so many years black people got to understand we have to d attached ourselves from people that think like this this is a slave mentality mine that we are listening to
Read John 10:33-39; Jesus tells them that scriptures say WE ARE gods! Not the Capital G but small g’s…so I understand what he is saying to a sense..you have to read your Bible and seek Gods truth for self
So for context, Jesus is replying to the Pharasees in confirmation of His deity since they claimed he was blasphemous toward YHWH. when He says "ye are gods", he is speaking in the context of them being the keepers, enforcers and the writers of the law. What T Howard is saying is that we are spiritual and metaphysical creators. However, if I, an average citizen, don't own land, if I do not make the laws of this land or anything, that means I am not a god nor a lord over anything other than my household. And even then, I still give all glory to God. So T Howard missed the mark on that one to me. Praise the Lord.
@@Shelz555 absolutely I agree with the context but I would also kindly reject the fact that because I may not own land or make rules does not subject who I am in God the creator; for Roman 8 reminds me that I am a child of God and HIS Spirit dwells in me. So therefore I do accept my title as a lower case g (god) because HE has given me the authority to do so! Respectfully
It is 2024 and Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever it is written! And your appeal to man having power to distort God’s inspired word is based off of an assumption and a blatant denial of his omnipotence, sovereignty and the list goes on. I pray you understand that you have no argument for what the early church believed. You gotta go back and read Acts and look at what the Church Fathers believed. All affirmed God is Triune, the pre-eminence of Christ and etc… While certain manuscripts were copied by Scribes back in that time (true) I think it’s important for you to ask yourself this question, if you believe to some degree that the God of the Bible is real, why do you deny 2 Peter 1:21 and prove that you are the person in 2 Tim 3:5. If Scriptures validity is your issue give real evidence? My evidence which comes from scriptures says that to you. I pray you awaken, repent and believe. Jesus is alive!!
It's 2024. It's well-established now the Bible is NOT the word of God. It is literally the word of men ABOUT God. The scribes who wrote the manuscripts often changed the words to reflect their own ideologies or fit their own desires. It also does not align with what the earliest Christians believed. The gospels in the Bible are the ones that were chosen for political reasons. Please study what the Bible actually is; especially if you really want to follow Jesus and his actual teachings.
@@thatk.t.a._flow There are definitely contradictory messages in the Bible. But the problem is, the messages aren't authentic to begin with and not all from Jesus or God but from many different men instead and in many cases, men not known to be truthful.
@@nunya54 I agree with some of what you are saying but can you give me specific changes. Also cam you give me specific references of the men not being truthful who wrote the Bible
@@thatk.t.a._flow Sure, many manuscripts included in the Bible were written by Paul. Paul was established to be a liar by Jewish academics who found he lied about being rabbinically trained to exude an air of authority about himself to teach his peculiar teachings of Jesus as they were a continuation of Jewish teachings; they were not. He also lied before James and the elders (Acts 21). He was accused for having taught false things about the law telling people to forsake Moses; he was critical of the laws of Moses that Jesus himself followed and said he came to uphold, and that James and the disciples and the first Church, the earliest Christians practiced upon for centuries after Jesus. He is bearing witness that he upholds the law but in his letters he said the law had been abolished. If this is taken as historical, he's bearing false witness. Not just telling lies to James; he has perjured himself before God. The Ebionites repudiated Paul; considered him an apostate of the law and a heretic. He was teaching ideas that Jesus did not teach, like his teaching of salvation that modern Christianity, after the third century adopted, which the disciples refuted (Jame and Jude do in their epistles, for example). There are other examples from those who wrote the gospels, which, of course, we don't know who they are, inventing stories. John's gospel, for example, much of it can't be found in earlier New Testament manuscripts. No one in all of Christian history knows who the author of John is. The first it is known about is from Irenaeus who is believed to be the author (and who also would invent stories about other people rising from the dead to bolster the story about Jesus - the early church fathers were known to lie and not record the whole truth, sadly). They do know he was embellishing. Matthew, as well, in his gospel, for example, writes Jesus into prophecies that don't exist. In doing so, he makes many mistakes indicating that he was. He has many well-known mistakes. Chapter 27, verse 9, for example. Then was fulfilled what had been spoken by the prophet Jeremiah, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him on whom a price had been set by some of the sons of Israel...' The statement he ascribes to Jeremiah is not found anywhere in the Old Testament Book of Jeremiah. A passage similar to it, however, is found in Zechariah 11:13. Horne observed in his Bible commentary (Vol.2/pp.385-386): "Some scholars think that it is an error of Matthew's version and the copier wrote Jeremiah instead of Zechariah; or it may be a later addition." Another of Matthew's famous errors is found in his Gospel at 2:23: 'And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called Nazarene.' This prophecy is not found in any of the books of the prophets in the Old Testament. Manfred, a Catholic scholar, wrote in his The Questions of the Question: "The books which contained this description have been destroyed, because in any of the present books of the Prophets we do not find the statement that Jesus would be called a 'Nazarene'." Matthew takes every conceivable pain to show how these prophecies have been fulfilled in the person of Jesus, even though sometimes he has to stretch the evidence to make his point. Eager to get on with the task at hand, he introduces his first prophecy early on in his Gospel: 'All this took place to fulfil what the Lord had said through the prophet: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel.' (Matthew 1:22-23) This prophecy is found in the Old Testament at Isaiah 7:14. Matthew sees in this a referral to Mary (the virgin) and Jesus (a son called Immanuel). Unfortunately, when Christians initially quoted these old prophecies, they used Greek translations which were untrue to the Hebrew originals. This passage is a prime example. There is no mention of a virgin in the original prophecy, the Hebrew word for which is bthulah. The word in the prophecy (which Matthew and other Christians render as virgin) is the Hebrew word almah which signifies a young woman, maiden or damsel of marriageable age. The error no doubt was made by a translator during the copying of Isaiah into Greek and Matthew, unaware of the original Hebrew, merely followed the translated wording.
"Evidence that demands a verdict " by Josh McDowell great book for Apologists it came out in the late 80's a newer 2018 version is available. We started studying this back in the day our pastor was big on defending the faith. Rare in the 1990's in South Central Los Angeles we found a blessing!!! Our pastor wanted us equipped!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏🔥
Love y’all!! Thank y’all for everything you guys do 🙏🏾🔥
@SolachiVoz keep up the gd work
Thank God for Glory Baptist Church in West Philadelphia. This was a church filled with black men in a pastor who could teach and preach the Bible with his eyes shut!!! I'm so grateful did I grew up in that church in the hood. Because those teaching still this day has kept me grounded and has solidified my faith in Jesus Christ. So many people think that there weren't any solid churches in the black communities. However I came from one I can't tell you again how grateful I am that God did that for me in my family!!!!
Love Trackstarz!!!
Perfect response. All episode. The whole conversation was well-discussed. Apologetics is so needed from Christians now, because we run into so many that have been confused by atheism, or hebrew Israelite, or new age. And being able to defend your faith entails being able to break it down to someone else so they can follow tge trail back to Truth.
I'm only half-way through, but I just wanted to say God bless y'all!!!!! This may be one of the most, if not THE most sound channels I've come across on the topic/truth of Christianity(my judgment of its soundness comes from the Holy Spirit). As someone who only recently came (back) into the faith, after leaving 8 years ago at 18, you guys are doing important work. It's only so much Bible you can read in a day, and you can die tomorrow. So all us baby readers have, during time of initial study, is the words of what others “know” and the Holy Spirit to filter truth. In the meantime, thank you guys so much for y'all's obedience to God and being grounded in His Word. & I thank God that His gifts of power, love and a sound mind are in HIGH saturation, on this channel. Keep it up! Love ♥️
That means so much to us! Thank you!
@@trackstarz !! 🤍🙏🏾
He is teaching the doctrine of demons. He said before his roles that he opened himself spiritually to something other worldly like demonic entities. He is deceived for real. GOD bless everyone in Jesus’s Holy name.
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Great segment 👏🏽 it is refreshing to see the Men of God speaking on these false christ's and false doctrines of men.
"purifying my faith".... thanks Jeremiah!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💕💕💕
What it do Guys!! 1st time watching complete show, not love but usually just catch clips. Keep reppin the LORD fellas, love the show!! Blessings, BK in KC
My opinion is that the root of many of these deceptive doctrines is that many Christians do not believe the Bible/Word of God is the Truth. I believe at some point every Christian has to ask themselves "Do I really believe the Bible is true, free of any errors, and complete in and of itself." IF you say "No" to that of course you have no foundation to stand on concerning your beliefs. The foundation of what Christians are to believe is found in God's Word. When they Holy Spirit speaks to us (audibly) He will not contradict the Word of God. We have to come to a point where we Trust God's Word.
One day everyone who calls themselves God will have to prove it. That should be their fear.
This!
The truth should be simple; deceit is complicated, question everything using the mind God given, Truth will set us free, don't fear it.
love you guys
Ephesians 4:17-32 living and walking in your new Christ identity. This was some verses I recently used to walking in faith daily and growing my relationship with my girlfriend.
Keep it simple and put scripture on your identity.
This is why it’s sooo important to know the origin of God. Meaning all the names of God and what they all mean. I recommend reading The Power of the names of God by Tony Evans!
Godlogic great apologetic
Jesus went into Egpyt when his mom was pregnant with him to be preserved from Herod who sought to kill him. That's why God called Jesus out of Egypt. It is also a parallel to Joseph who was also preserved in Egypt from death to save the world from a famine. Jesus saves the world from our sin.
Man knowing how real hell is and not become a crazed person trying to get your friends and family to get saved is a struggle 😂
Congrats!
Repent the Kingdom is near.
Romans 10:13 👑
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when do y’all live streammm. i keep missing it 😩😩😩
Saturdays at 12:00 PM EST
Jesus lived a similar life like us. It’s easily described why he would have saw and maybe learned from what he saw as we do. Doesn’t mean he was faithful to any other deity. Jesus is sinless. “For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin”
Hello Gentlemen, is it possible to cover the scripture passages that back up what you are covering in this conversation?
Like your show! Have any of you read the emerald tablets, Sumerian and Annunaki text that preceded the bible and the bible copied from.
🙄 they’ve already spoke of this.
The serpent was and even today is … Subtle
1:03:51 that would be very valuable!! plz do some episodes or Zoom calls, something on that 😂. the Body needs it. the Spirit of God is speaking to the saints right now concerning false teaching. we need to be equipped. it’s beautiful to witness His Spirit moving in the earth. ❤️🙏🏾
My wife and I have the hardest time converAting she is East African and a lot of it is superstitious about cats witches and division amongst people to pointing evil than the human error or experience. And I feel angered by her interaction towards the trolls that most are because she does tend to alienate them as just people due to these misunderstanding
#terrencehoward is a genius 💎👁️
I would like to learn more about the Hebrew Israelitefaith. I have a cousin who used to be a bold in the faith but has now adopted the Hebrew Israelite faith. It is destroying his family- and has begun to alienate himself from his wife and 3 daughters. 😢
Good one! We will add it to the list
Thank you so very much! I came across your podcast a few months ago, as it continued to pop up after viewing other podcasts that I trust I wasn't sure if you'd was truly of God as there are so many popping up. I decided one day this week to tune in, and I'm grateful I did! 💝 Thank you for your diligence in dissecting and sharing the word of God. The dialog that I dialogue that I have witnessed is encouraging! Praise God for each of you. I pray that He blesses your ministry and your mission as you continue to follow and serve Him.
I always argue with people that say you must study more to know God. This is also the reason why many have drifted from God, studying much stuff. God is also the God of those who are illiterate, low IQ etc (whatever labels). In the beginning was the word.... This is not equivalent to some textbook (In the beginning was a textbook)....
Also, anyone can study, A Muslim reads the Quran, A mathematician study maths, Christians read the bible etc but what I think makes a huge difference in Christianity is the relationship with Jesus through prayer (constantly talking to each other about anything, anytime, anywhere). A relationship that is so personal, more than that of husband and wife, father and daughter etc. If the heart can be opened, the mark of the relationship can be seen through it. That is what makes reading the bible (if we can) different from everyone .......
That's because the more you study the Bible, the more you know it's not from God.
@@nunya54 Why do you say so, if you study yourself, Elon Musk, the rapist, murderers, the Hitlers etc can you say they are all from God?
The problem is, people keep asking regular people to explain or demonstrate the super hero's powers, go to God himself.
It's because those people aren't looking for the truth they're looking to be proven right that God can't possibly exist because their brains can't wrap around that belief, so they keep getting into discussions with believers and believers use scriptures that non believers already don't believe in, so they are just looking for holes in the logic, not open to anything. When all you need to say is if you truly want to know the truth go to the source. God is not people. He is the only one who can demonstrate his true power to a non believer so tell them to humble themselves and give him a real shot without going to him with your preconceived doubts, clear your heart and ask him to show you what you need to see to believe. Because if you are just arguing just to be right, what's the point? you're not interested in being saved you just want to prove you cannot be. Your salvation is between you and God and if you really cared to know you would ask him yourself.
Basically I can tell you that stars exist all day but it means nothing if you never turn your own neck to look up at them.- ME
Jesus calls "deeper truth" or "hidden/secret knowledge", the depths of Satan in Rev. 2:24 "But I also have a message for the rest of you in Thyatira who have not followed this false teaching (‘deeper truths,’ as they call them-depths of Satan, actually). I will ask nothing more of you"
Ben Carson is leading ppl away from Christ. Ppl who don't have a relationship with Jesus listen to him. At 16:12, when he said Jesus traveled & studied all those different religions, it is just ridiculous....Jesus is God, He's not studying other religions. We must remember we are living in the in times, and even the elite will be deceived before the second coming of God. God have mercy on us all 🙏
Everyone loves Jesus the man, but not Jesus the God......
Yes. Because he wasn't God. That is not what James and the disciples believed about Jesus and was not mainstream Christianity for the first three centuries..
@@nunya54 mmm Except when people pray to him, he speaks back and answers their prayers. Demons also respond to his name. That would be crazy if a dead man in the past is doing all this..
And the TRUTH has been suppressed for a long time. They believed in Jesus, just the Real one, not the white one, imo
You have to look at the whole interview where he describes the scientific aspec cause he is a chemist by schooling, so most don't see the coalition between God & science.
He is not. He doesn’t understand rudimentary calc.
I listen to Billy Carson, he has some good scientific insights, but when it comes to God he is probably just like many other Physics professors who are non-believers. If you want to learn about farming go to a farmer, if you want to learn history go to a historian etc, and if you want to know God start with the church. Every Farmer has an opinion about farming, but the actual farmer knows best. Always guard your heart.
Scientific insights from Billy Carson 😂
He is a grifter. Pleeeeease do just a tiny bit of research into that man’s credentials.
Im terrence howard
He read some o' the Bible, but, yup, He's goin' to hell
Conversations like this is the reason why we been enslaved for so many years black people got to understand we have to d attached ourselves from people that think like this this is a slave mentality mine that we are listening to
Read John 10:33-39; Jesus tells them that scriptures say WE ARE gods! Not the Capital G but small g’s…so I understand what he is saying to a sense..you have to read your Bible and seek Gods truth for self
So for context, Jesus is replying to the Pharasees in confirmation of His deity since they claimed he was blasphemous toward YHWH. when He says "ye are gods", he is speaking in the context of them being the keepers, enforcers and the writers of the law. What T Howard is saying is that we are spiritual and metaphysical creators. However, if I, an average citizen, don't own land, if I do not make the laws of this land or anything, that means I am not a god nor a lord over anything other than my household. And even then, I still give all glory to God. So T Howard missed the mark on that one to me. Praise the Lord.
@@Shelz555 absolutely I agree with the context but I would also kindly reject the fact that because I may not own land or make rules does not subject who I am in God the creator; for Roman 8 reminds me that I am a child of God and HIS Spirit dwells in me. So therefore I do accept my title as a lower case g (god) because HE has given me the authority to do so! Respectfully
Who else is here after seeing “Joe Rogan Experience #2152 Terrence Howard”…???
Their Christian theology is pathetic and weak.
John is not considered a historically accurate gospel. New Testament scholars don't use John or believe Jesus said the things said in John.
Here comes the 3rd and 5 th grades , Losers losers losers s
Nothing funny about this in the Holy presence of God. Come completely out of Babylon.
It is 2024 and Jesus Christ is the same yesterday today and forever it is written! And your appeal to man having power to distort God’s inspired word is based off of an assumption and a blatant denial of his omnipotence, sovereignty and the list goes on. I pray you understand that you have no argument for what the early church believed. You gotta go back and read Acts and look at what the Church Fathers believed. All affirmed God is Triune, the pre-eminence of Christ and etc… While certain manuscripts were copied by Scribes back in that time (true) I think it’s important for you to ask yourself this question, if you believe to some degree that the God of the Bible is real, why do you deny 2 Peter 1:21 and prove that you are the person in 2 Tim 3:5. If Scriptures validity is your issue give real evidence? My evidence which comes from scriptures says that to you. I pray you awaken, repent and believe. Jesus is alive!!
This was suppose to be a response to Nunya 54! Blessings and thank you brothers for this podcast!
In Maths terms, Let Ω={All things}, S={all creation} and S⊂Ω, then S ̅={God} and God ≠ ∅.
Nobody on this panel knows where the Bible comes from
They can certainly make an argument for the origins of the Bible.
@@WilliamsPinch if you or them thinks the Bible is the word of God you don’t have a clue educate yourself
It's 2024. It's well-established now the Bible is NOT the word of God. It is literally the word of men ABOUT God. The scribes who wrote the manuscripts often changed the words to reflect their own ideologies or fit their own desires. It also does not align with what the earliest Christians believed. The gospels in the Bible are the ones that were chosen for political reasons. Please study what the Bible actually is; especially if you really want to follow Jesus and his actual teachings.
Um there is some truth to What you are saying but I can literally point to changes verses, but they don't change the messages overall
@@thatk.t.a._flow There are definitely contradictory messages in the Bible. But the problem is, the messages aren't authentic to begin with and not all from Jesus or God but from many different men instead and in many cases, men not known to be truthful.
@@nunya54 I agree with some of what you are saying but can you give me specific changes. Also cam you give me specific references of the men not being truthful who wrote the Bible
@@thatk.t.a._flow Sure, many manuscripts included in the Bible were written by Paul. Paul was established to be a liar by Jewish academics who found he lied about being rabbinically trained to exude an air of authority about himself to teach his peculiar teachings of Jesus as they were a continuation of Jewish teachings; they were not. He also lied before James and the elders (Acts 21). He was accused for having taught false things about the law telling people to forsake Moses; he was critical of the laws of Moses that Jesus himself followed and said he came to uphold, and that James and the disciples and the first Church, the earliest Christians practiced upon for centuries after Jesus. He is bearing witness that he upholds the law but in his letters he said the law had been abolished. If this is taken as historical, he's bearing false witness. Not just telling lies to James; he has perjured himself before God. The Ebionites repudiated Paul; considered him an apostate of the law and a heretic. He was teaching ideas that Jesus did not teach, like his teaching of salvation that modern Christianity, after the third century adopted, which the disciples refuted (Jame and Jude do in their epistles, for example).
There are other examples from those who wrote the gospels, which, of course, we don't know who they are, inventing stories. John's gospel, for example, much of it can't be found in earlier New Testament manuscripts. No one in all of Christian history knows who the author of John is. The first it is known about is from Irenaeus who is believed to be the author (and who also would invent stories about other people rising from the dead to bolster the story about Jesus - the early church fathers were known to lie and not record the whole truth, sadly). They do know he was embellishing. Matthew, as well, in his gospel, for example, writes Jesus into prophecies that don't exist. In doing so, he makes many mistakes indicating that he was. He has many well-known mistakes. Chapter 27, verse 9, for example. Then was fulfilled what had been spoken by the prophet Jeremiah, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him on whom a price had been set by some of the sons of Israel...' The statement he ascribes to Jeremiah is not found anywhere in the Old Testament Book of Jeremiah. A passage similar to it, however, is found in Zechariah 11:13. Horne observed in his Bible commentary (Vol.2/pp.385-386): "Some scholars think that it is an error of Matthew's version and the copier wrote Jeremiah instead of Zechariah; or it may be a later addition."
Another of Matthew's famous errors is found in his Gospel at 2:23: 'And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called Nazarene.' This prophecy is not found in any of the books of the prophets in the Old Testament. Manfred, a Catholic scholar, wrote in his The Questions of the Question: "The books which contained this description have been destroyed, because in any of the present books of the Prophets we do not find the statement that Jesus would be called a 'Nazarene'."
Matthew takes every conceivable pain to show how these prophecies have been fulfilled in the person of Jesus, even though sometimes he has to stretch the evidence to make his point. Eager to get on with the task at hand, he introduces his first prophecy early on in his Gospel: 'All this took place to fulfil what the Lord had said through the prophet: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel.' (Matthew 1:22-23) This prophecy is found in the Old Testament at Isaiah 7:14. Matthew sees in this a referral to Mary (the virgin) and Jesus (a son called Immanuel). Unfortunately, when Christians initially quoted these old prophecies, they used Greek translations which were untrue to the Hebrew originals. This passage is a prime example. There is no mention of a virgin in the original prophecy, the Hebrew word for which is bthulah. The word in the prophecy (which Matthew and other Christians render as virgin) is the Hebrew word almah which signifies a young woman, maiden or damsel of marriageable age. The error no doubt was made by a translator during the copying of Isaiah into Greek and Matthew, unaware of the original Hebrew, merely followed the translated wording.