This is the BEST ED documentary I've seen. Truly about those girls, about eating disorder itself, emotions not only shocking images of stick-figures and girls crying over dinner plates. This touched me so much... those girls were putting in words my thoughts and feelings. This documentary should be translated in other languages too.
I'm a male who suffers from EDNOS. It pisses me off that doctors don't take it seriously. My own doctor doesn't, my dad is a doctor and thinks I'm attention seeking, he should know better. My doctor dad binge eats and weighs 240 lbs at 5'9. Anyone who was an eating disorder should not be alone or ignored.
EDNOS is difficult. Mostly because the voice keeps changing. One minute I want to binge and purge, the next to run and then to stop eating entirely. When I went to get diagnosed my doctor/psychiatrist said I had "disordered eating". That was because I didn't quite fit the criteria for any disorder so they though it wasn't a big deal.
Same, I have atypical anorexia but my psychiatrist said I had simply "Disordered Eating". I still don't believe that I have an eating disorder cause of my size and mainly the number on the scale below me. Because I'm a larger taller person, my psychiatrist has now completely let me go as I apparently am healthy.
I thought this would just be about EDNOS. plain and straight, but it goes really deep into the emotion, the depression and anxiety and I love that because that's what it's really about.
It's hard to explain that sometimes your scared to get rid of your eating disorder...but theses girls said everything I'm feeling. Glad to know I'm not Completely crazy and on my own with that specific concept... This was a beautiful documentary
I really get being scared to let go of the eating disorder part.i like this documentary because it explains what it feels like, the effects and psychological impact of the ed.thank you.
wish you could have included a non-purging bulimic in your documentary as well (those of us who fast and over-exercise to compensate for binges) We always get ignored.
I love how 2/3 out of the comments here are wrong. Bulimia is binging and purging of any type. If that made you feel like a faker just fyi I'm bulimic and I do throw up like twice a day and I (+ lots of doctors which know way more than me and some randoms on the internet) would still consider you to be bulimic. Though I kinda disagree on fasting being a form of "purging" (mostly because that would require me to admit to being bulimic for way longer than 3 years lmfao) but overexercising and laxatives def are.
@@StarkArsonist DSM 5 diagnostic criteria of bulimia states that it is bulimia if you binge and then engage in any compensatory behaviours including vomiting, laxatives, over exercising and fasting.
i have had ednos that started from having anorexia at a younger age, i will binge and not control it and have constant binges for months then go to starving and losing alot of weight, with exercise. but because the binging puts back on the weight i lose when i don't eat, people don't see it as anything but me being pathetic. but in reality ednos is so hard, and unlike bulimia, most people see it as an 'attention seeking disorder' when its ruling my life.
I have EDNOS (atypical anorexia for the most part, though I have had binge/purge behaviors). This video is so important because what most people don't realize is that there are usually more factors to "typical" anorexia (as well as morbid obesity in BED) that allowed the person to get to such an extreme weight, e.g. the family enabling the person, or some sort of trauma/abuse going on. What people don't realize is that the people who aren't enabled need help too. You wouldn't consider someone who is sent into rehab for opiate addiction and has full family support any less of an addict than one who is out on the street and estranged from their family. It's just two different presentations of the same disease.
I'm glad this is up...people think all eating disorders are anorexia but that's not true. There's orthorexia, EDNOS, and of course bulimia nervosa. I am recovering from EDNOS and it's nice to see a video like this.
It's so scary.. as if i am the person in the video. For all of the people who never coped with eating disorders.. you should know that all of them have identic thoughts.... totally the same.. as what i think.. i do have a eating disorder too... and it's the worst thing ever
Thank you so much for this documentary. I cried the whole way through which is unusual for me but they are heart-breaking stories and more so because they are my story too, being someone who intimately knows the complete devastation that eating disorders cause. And the invisibility is such a huge barrier. Spread the awareness and give people like me hope and help.
What an incredible documentary- these women are so insightful about the function of the ED- it's a way 'out', a way of postponing life, a way of avoiding the terrifying prospect of being responsible for their lives, successes, failures- I so hope they are able to recover and cope and find their way back into the world.
Wat zo raar is, is dat ik hier niet eens specifiek op heb gezocht. Ik was eigenlijk wel benieuwd naar wat hier wordt besproken en na het volledig kijken ( ja echt waar ), moet ik toch echt wel een compliment geven voor deze documentaire. De meiden spreken de harde waarheid uit en ik vind het ook wel weer zorgwekkend dat natuurlijk er nog veel meer exemplaren rondlopen met ditzelfde probleem, zonder eerlijk te zijn naar zichzelf. Het klopt inderdaad dat er eigenlijk alleen naar je wordt gekeken als je uitzonderlijk dun of uitzonderlijk dik bent. Dan gaan mensen zich afvragen hoe het toch zo ver heeft kunnen komen. De meiden uit deze documentaire zien er "normaal" uit en roepen daarom ook geen echte vragen op bij anderen. Wat eigenlijk de moraal van het verhaal is, is dat een verslaving vaak tot stand komt uit angst. Een toevluchtsoord creëren zeg maar. Kijk maar naar game verslaafden. Precies hetzelfde verhaal.. Zoals gezegd, ik vond dit een prima documentaire. Wat eigenlijk wel beetje raar is, is dat ik halverwege gewoon trek kreeg en mezelf ontbijt ging maken. Ook ik heb soms last van een eetstoornis. Te lui en onverschillig om eten te maken bijvoorbeeld. Oh en ehh.. de meid met het kort gewiekte haar.. ze heeft wel wat aantrekkelijks
I've lived nearly all my life with BED or bulimia, the only time people showed concern was when I was losing weight, now that I'm gaining it again nobody seems to see a problem. I've always had low self esteem and have openly judged my body with disgust, I feel like they just see this as a norm for me. I wish they were more concerned about me binging rather than dieting cause that's the main issue. I need support but I'm not going to bother anyone with my problems.
I think this is a great documentary. It is captivating in its exploration of the pain behind, within and beyond eating disorders and the complexities they involve. I wrote a brief post about it on my chrysaliscyc blog called Most Eating Disorders Are ‘Out of Sight’.
For the first time I dont feel so alienated it's like some ones pulled the contents from my head and put them in this video. I've felt so very alone in my battle so mis understood and not believed this just helps to calm my fears ...
I totally relate to this video. All of it. Stay strong and heads up you two lovelies. Great and inspirational video. Hope it reaches out to more suffering from this painful and dreadful illness. God bless.
i feel your struggle i too am so tired of being this way, im bulimic but i do have hope that one day we wont be so trapped within the wrath of disorder
This is a much-needed video, not easy to watch, I recommend you watch it to understand a life-threatening illness that is grossly misunderstood. I was once like the three young women who courageously and candidly share their stories. My heart goes out to them, and everyone who is suffering this illness today. If you are suffering the symptoms of Bulimia, I encourage you to seek help, today! This is an illness an help is available. You CAN reclaim you!
fear is such a powerful feeling... They are so brave; it's admirable. Really nice documentary. I really really liked it and could identify with them. Thanks for sharing
I totally agree with you on that one. I am so ashamed of my body which is why I dress in mostly baggy clothes. All my past boyfriends kept telling me that I should dress more sexy and that put even more pressure on me and made me want to diet even more. I hate how some men just can't accept one as they are. It's all about the womens bodys these days. Everywhere you go it's about advertising womens bodys. Where are the half naked men? I barely see any.
I have a serious ED I have struggled on and off for over 30 years. It comes and goes. I hate myself a lot of the time. I wish I could stop but I can't and I will never go back to inpatient or residential again. I will just carry on like everything is fine.
I'm sure she wants to help, but people with eating disorders feel like they have a lack of control over their own life. It's all about her mother's point of view in this interview, not hers. That really concerns me. Sandra's parents seem terrible indeed.
i've suffered from disordered eating or EDNOS for about 5 years. i never lost any weight and it made me feel like such a failure. for a little while, i actually gained some weight to please my now ex girlfriend 'cause she was worried about the damage i had done to my body. all i remember is being maybe a bit more tired, getting cold easily in cold places, and that's really about it.
please read brain over binge, therapy makes us focus on everything around us. stress, body image, anxiety depression whatever. this makes us put off on stopping the binging. when in fact it's the binging you should focus on. i highly recommend the book. therapy has brought me nowhere but letting me focus on my problems and WHY i'm binging but never stopped me from binging. this book has helped me. and i am completely recovered. as i watch this documentary. their vision is the vision of the therapists. one of the girls said, that if the focus on their problems and resolve them the binging will go away. but that is not true. the binging comes from an URGE which has to be stopped.
***** you had it and now you are healthy again?how did you do that... i have tried but nothing changed for real.. and i m afraid, i m afraid that i will lose my life, that i wont be able to have a normal life ever again...!
What she said about addiction is not true. It's not always because you're looking for a way out. There are people out there who live very happy lives and still end up addicted.
You should seek help. Trust me. I have lost so much because of those who have an ED. The sooner you get help the better your life will be. It's hard, but so worth it.
No, this is actually Dutch, but there are many words in the German and Dutch language that sound similar, so it's no wonder you understand some of them :)
I think people should stop trying to blame others for anyone having an eating disorder. To the person below me who is blaming men for it. You do realise men get eating disorders also. As for the media I do believe it plays a role in it. but I don't fully believe someone sees a bunch of skinny girls and bam wants to starve and destroy themselves due to it. Plus eating disorders were around well before the media was crazy about super thin girls/men.probably well before there even was a media.
I heard people said that the Romans had strange things with food I have heard it goes back all the way to the time of Jesus the Romans binge and then purge so it not a new disorder.
Although I dont think that this is the main reason that people develope eating disorders. It often has nothing to do with wanting to be thin but more with getting control over their life and being afraid of the future etc.
Hey! I'm so sorry you're going through this too, my story is almost identical to yours. I would suggest looking into alternative ways to take your medication, for example maybe wake up halfway through the night and take it with water, just keep it by your bed so you don't have to get up, that way you'll be half asleep and will fall back asleep pretty quick and hopefully won't automatically binge. Or you can get once-weekly prozac, but I dunno if that's available in Australia.
Just wanted to say thanks for posting this documentary. I am glad I sat and took the time to watch this. It really made me feel less alone. What is the song that plays throughout the documentary? It is such a beautiful song. xoxo
It's important to focus on.. Doing the things you love.. Things, people, that give you a good feeling.. maybe make some changes You are so worthy, love love love yourself and use all your sensitivity to make your life wonderful and know.. it is possible! my English isn't very well, but I wanted to share with you what is working for me.. I am not there yet, but I am doing very, very well and I am so thankful that one day someone shared this knowledge with me.. so I wanted to share.
EDNOS is a eating disorder that is not characterized as either Anorexia or Bulimia. They show much of the same symptoms as either or both of the two but may not be underweight or have Amenorrhea (loss of menstrual cycle). The person diagnosed with EDNOS may have anorexic or bulimic tendencies.
I watched this video because I am a psych minor and I hope if God allows to let me go into the counseling field. I have known ppl with eating disorders so I was hoping to find something that I could understand a lil bit of their perspectives. This video was very well done despite the language barrier.
my eating disorder actually started from being on a blogging website and coming across "thinspo" pictures. It definitely triggered something in me that the scale never did. So yes, I did and still am destroying myself and it all started from one summer afternoon on the computer when I saw pictures of happy, gorgeous, skinny girls.
Don't hurt yourself your are beautiful and gorgeous just the way you are don't let the unrealistic standards of beauty of a website who's only meant to hurt you take over your whole self. Try to block those pages so you don't see them.
The advise I can give you is.. think about your dreams. What is it that you want to achieve in life? And what's giving you those awful feelings right now? Are you doing what you love? Are you allowing yourself to do what you love? Or do you have different expectations of yourself? I think that it's important to set your focus, focus on the good thoughts, you are in control of your thoughts, you need to know that, you really are! Energy flows where the attention goes!
Amenorrhea is no longer a diagnostic for anorexia or bulimia. The main difference is that EDNOS do not binge or purge as much as bulimics and they are not underweight.
I felt kind of unsetteling when they started speaking my language.. maybe because I don't realize this disease is also occuring in my country and I have never seen a documentary about this subject in my language. Awks.
I felt related to this girls, I feel sad, annoyed, tired, angry, alone, desperate all the time, and when I purge I feel some kind of pleasure, I know is so sick,,...I suffer from a disgusting ednos called C&S, you know is bad, you know you wont lose weight and that you will feel even worst after doing it....but is so difficult to stop, sometimes I wonder if Im being ridiculous and Im just a weak person that cant control herself,...or if I am actually sick and need professional health.
I WAS bulimic for 35 years. (I'm surprised i'm still alive.) Only in the very beginning i puked for weight control but very soon i couldn't change anything even if i didn't care to gain a 100 lb! When i moved to United States i got addicted to McDonald and noticed one Big Mac was never enough. Sometimes i ate 3-4 and i put on a few pounds. So after i couldn't fit into my new clothing that i didn't even wear yet i got really upset and starved myself to lose weight. Of course when i started eating again i couldn't stop eating anything until i felt so full that i was sure i'm going to explode. I had no choice but to release that food to feel better. So initially i lost the excess weight by starving myself but whenever i ate ANY food i couldn't stop eating until it was all gone and i felt like my stomach will rupture. So it was at this point when my bulimia started. I couldn't stop bingeing and then puking it out no matter what i did. I stayed slim but i was always severely dehydrated and malnourished. I didn't physically feel it yet because i was really young. In my later years i suffered the price big time! (I won't get into that, it's too long) Anyways, it took me 35 years to find out what was the problem. The food itself!!!! When this binging/purging cycle started i was still 20 yrs old, i didn't know how to/and didn't even want to cook. Everything i ate came "ready to eat". In the US everything you buy from the shelf or fast food places, even in better restaurants ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING has MSG added to it which is a very harmful AND ADDICTIVE ingredient. I only found out decades later that MSG changes the brain chemistry somehow. It makes you eat and eat and eat, you don't get the "enough" signal. It has nothing to do with hunger, you feel full but still can't stop if there's more left of the food. So if you want to stay slim or not damaging your stomach seriously, you either become bulimic, or morbidly obese. No in between! I quit eating PROCESSED food and my overeating stopped with it. Of course bulimia has underlying psychological issues too that makes you want to eat at emotional crisis in the first place. But you're addicted to the food already and that has a HUGE part in it! If you get over the cravings, (B complex + Chromium Piccolinate,) take some good multivitamins you'll be able to handle the stress a billion times better. For you girls with PMS magnesium+ B6 is a miracle! And if you eat real food (not addictive chemicals) you won't overeat to the point that you need to throw up. This is my story in a rather long "nutshell". Until i found out about MSG and the other addictive chemicals i was sure that i'll finish my life one day leaning over the toilet bowl. I was totally hopeless ever beating this terrible disorder as long as i lived. I really hope that it could help someone who has the same problems and i know there are a lot of you out there! God bless!
God really took care of you 35 years is a lot I didn't know that was even possible I am so sorry you went through something so horrible but I know in the end if God helps you you can totally overcome it. Remember to hang out with people who keep you positive and do anything to help you recover because those people are the one that really love you. Be brave . P.S. Don't worry God will be with you every step of the way.
I'm sorry, I'm not much help. You could even try talking to your doctor if you still find the medication isn't helping you, in my experience most doctors will try to treat the depression first, then use CBT to adapt your behaviours. You could try support groups? I know how hard it is though, but you're strong enough to do it if you're already trying to get better. Feel free to message me if you want to talk. Sorry again, I'm pretty useless with advice :/ Sara xxxx
I wish we could start to understand that this is not primarily an emotional 'disorder' but addiction. SO much research has been done now on the science of 'food' addiction, which is really processed food addiction...no one binges on broccoli or even whole apples, because your dopamine receptors are not going to get a hit that way...
I am a Christian women, 32years old I have a husband and 3 children, I have struggled with eating disorders my whole life and I believe that the only cure is God, when we turn to him he can break us free from any addiction. I encourage anyone suffering from addictions to turn to God. xx
You are very right. although I never struggled with an eating disorder, I did with Self harm and wouldn't stop until I turned to God completely. I still have the thoughts sometimes but I turn to God instead when I am feeling it getting to me.
how do you turn to God exactly? And I say this with all seriousness. I don't suffer from an eating disorder (at least I don't think) but I do suffer from plenty of other stuff - PTSD, ADHD, depression, anxiety, past heroin/cocaine addiction, self harm, multiple suicide attempts - and really relate to the way they feel but it manifests itself differently... I am a Christian but really don't understand how to or what to do to turn to God/Christ. Idk if that sounds like a stupid question, but just wanted to know.
Turning to God means completely turning your focus onto him. Spending time in the word. In prayer. Worship and just sometimes listening or being still in his presence. The Bible tells us to seek first the Kingdom of God above all else and he will give us everything else that we need. To seek the Kingdom of God is to put him first in everything you do. The Bible also says draw near to him and he will draw near to us. But you see we have to first draw near to him. Spending time with other believers is also good. Especially ones who are positive about life. The Bible says if you hang around a fool you become a fool. I recommend that you go after God like never before and if you don't know how. Pray and ask him. Ask him to put the right people in your life and to shut doors that need shutting. The Bible also says that we have not because we ask not so don't be afraid to ask God for anything. These messages between us is God's doing. He hears our prayers and will use whoever is willing to reach out to people. There are people waiting to reach out to you so ask God to bring them into your life. May I ask where you are from? I live in Wales, United Kingdom x
Through my own personal experiences in life and an actual relationship with Jesus I can say 100% that he is real. I am not trying to promote anything. I'm living proof that Jesus is real and that he loves us and has already paid the price for all the stuff trying to hold us in bondage when he was put on the cross. My comments here are not some promotion. They are because I have a real relationship with Jesus who gets me through everything single struggle I have ever faced and because of his love for me I am still alive today.
THE SAD PART ABOUT ME IS I TOLD MY PARENTS I HAVE A EATIN DISORDER. THAT I NEED HELP AND THEY DON'T SEE LIKE I DO. THEY ASSUME I DON'T NEED HELP AND THAT FOR HELP IS A WASTE OF MONEY. 'I JUST FEAR MY FUTURE AND HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS GOING ON WISH I KNEW A WAY TO STOP BINGING ALL DAY. I FEAR GAINING MORE WEIGHT .
EDNOS stands for eating disorder not otherwise specified . it is an eating disorder that does not meet the criteria for anorexia nervosa or bulimia nervosa.[1] Thus, individuals who have clinically significant eating disorders that do not meet DSM-V criteria for anorexia nervosa or bulimia nervosa are diagnosed with EDNOS. Individuals with EDNOS usually fall into one of three groups: subthreshold symptoms of anorexia nervosa or bulimia nervosa, mixed features of both disorders, or extremely atypical eating behaviors that are not characterized by either of the other established disorders.[2] In other words, EDNOS acts as a default category, and is defined by what it is not. Currently, EDNOS is the most commonly diagnosed eating disorder in clinical settings. Because little is known about the symptoms, course, and outcome of this heterogeneous category, the preponderance of EDNOS in clinical practice impedes clinical communication, treatment planning, epidemiological inquiry, primary prevention, and basic research. source : wikipedia note:I've only copied a little bit of what's been written in wiki ; i immensely encourage you to further read about it. i think its extremely vital to be enlightened about mental illness because you never know when that knowledge could impact someone's lives positively . eve
Men's eating disorders are caused by different factors than women's eating disorders. I notice that even now, there is an attempt to marginalize women's eating disorders because I believe that people are really beginning to open their eyes to how the modeling industry, society (read: men's expectations) and media images affect women. I support the fat acceptance movement even though I don't want to be fat personally, because it is a slap in the face to this nonsense towards women.
Bulimia is a mess. I'm glad that I don't have an ED, but heartbroken to know those that do. When you talk to them about it they get defensive and very, very angry. They want to get better but refuse help. It's sad and it sucks that people think they have to do this to themselves. Eat healthy and exercise and you'll feel so, so, so much better than you would losing weight via an ED. You have one body, treat it right.
Pippa Pear What I wrote is not at all condescending. If it was then I would not wish everyone with and ED would get healthy. I don't like seeing people suffer (especially those I am very close to) and thought I'd post something positive among all the negative pro-ED comments flooding this video. ED's aren't fun for anybody.
Eating healthy and working out isn't just enough. I started working out at a gym 2 years ago, started having nutrition consultations...and it's the same torment. I mean, I think it's getting worse, though. An eating disorder is way more complex than just 'fixing' it with a healthy diet and exercise. It isnt' enough, for sure. I thought all of those things would 'save' me from my cravings, my anxiety with food and weight...but they didn't... Losing weight isn't enough because the pressure is way up! And you feel like you're on a rollercoaster every single day...and you just can't get out of it. No matter what you do (go to a gym and workout almost everyday or eat healthy meals with the right proportions, or whatever). The problem is IN the brain. I always say that 'this' will disappear with a lobotomy...which is pretty devastating...but that's how I feel it. Tried to sweep it up with physians, phsycologists, nutrionists...and it worked out for a little while...but then...everything went back to where it was...and...it is what it is...a proffound inner battle every single day...facing food as the archenemy...the devil...the punisher...and then ending up eating everything you can to soothe all that pain and suffering... And yes...it all starts in your childhood...adolescence...when you think you're not enough...when you believe you're a big fail...and you feel like crap, basically. Some kids just do alright, and I'm happy for them! But others...well...end up like this...being insecure with almost everything in their lives and trying to 'escape', from real world, on food. Not a happy choice. I don't even remember when was the last time I perceived food as something normal, something good! Well, hope one day everything will be much better...and food won't be an enemy that's consuming me inside n' out.
I have a serious doubt!! I see that most of the western people are suffering from some kind of psycoligical disorder. I m not degrading them but I wonder why it is very rare in India. Indians do suffer from diseases but these are very rare. Especially eating disorders are very common in americans. I love to watch english movies alot and i noticed that most of the hollywood celebs have some kind of psycological disorders. I am very interested in learning about psycology and psycological disorders. plz tell me what affects you more!! Is it heridity , film industry or some untold past abuse
I dont think what you said is right. If proper care is not provided, one gets worsened. And it wont become 'rare'. I m not a racist. I didnot mean to degrade western people. So in your country,if they are providing maximum care to check mental illness, why are people getting affected very easily. Are they fragile and vulnerable. Plz dont think like i m offending you. Its just like a survey
sweetcandy girl I am in treatment with 19 other people, so 20 total, and two of them are Indian. So that's 10% of the whole group in this one tiny unit. Just fyi.
Bulimia is far from invisible. You can see and hear those who do it. It's definitely nothing to brag about. Getting better and beating it is where the bragging (and living) is.
This is the BEST ED documentary I've seen. Truly about those girls, about eating disorder itself, emotions not only shocking images of stick-figures and girls crying over dinner plates. This touched me so much... those girls were putting in words my thoughts and feelings. This documentary should be translated in other languages too.
I'm a male who suffers from EDNOS. It pisses me off that doctors don't take it seriously. My own doctor doesn't, my dad is a doctor and thinks I'm attention seeking, he should know better. My doctor dad binge eats and weighs 240 lbs at 5'9. Anyone who was an eating disorder should not be alone or ignored.
EDNOS is difficult. Mostly because the voice keeps changing. One minute I want to binge and purge, the next to run and then to stop eating entirely. When I went to get diagnosed my doctor/psychiatrist said I had "disordered eating". That was because I didn't quite fit the criteria for any disorder so they though it wasn't a big deal.
right..
Same, I have atypical anorexia but my psychiatrist said I had simply "Disordered Eating". I still don't believe that I have an eating disorder cause of my size and mainly the number on the scale below me. Because I'm a larger taller person, my psychiatrist has now completely let me go as I apparently am healthy.
Right. Or when u don’t look ‘skinny’ enough to have an ed
@@purplemonster259yes exactly what I was thinking. Ridiculous. They have no idea how people suffer regardless of their appearance
@@purplemonster259I hope you’re able to find real help with this, men seem to be dismissed more in this area which is awful
❤❤❤ sending you love 🙏
I thought this would just be about EDNOS. plain and straight, but it goes really deep into the emotion, the depression and anxiety and I love that because that's what it's really about.
It's hard to explain that sometimes your scared to get rid of your eating disorder...but theses girls said everything I'm feeling. Glad to know I'm not Completely crazy and on my own with that specific concept... This was a beautiful documentary
does it bother anyone else that it seems like the only ed anyone talks about is being ana?
Extremely frustrating for those who have BED AND restricting. No info on that
There’s also ednos
BED, Bulimia, EDNOS
Almost nobody acknowledges those.
yes. i do think that all of them need to be recognised and talked about but people should know that there’s more than one and EDs aren’t all the same
idk why but i see so much sadness from Anneloes eyes when her mother says that she's "getting better"
Because Anneloes probably knows she's not that much better. It doesn't just go away so she's still struggling.
I really get being scared to let go of the eating disorder part.i like this documentary because it explains what it feels like, the effects and psychological impact of the ed.thank you.
wish you could have included a non-purging bulimic in your documentary as well (those of us who fast and over-exercise to compensate for binges) We always get ignored.
You're not bulimic if you don't throw up.
thats anorexia purging doesnt mean bulimic
that's bulimia non purge type. not anorexia. bulimia is defined by binging. anorexia is not about binging
I love how 2/3 out of the comments here are wrong. Bulimia is binging and purging of any type. If that made you feel like a faker just fyi I'm bulimic and I do throw up like twice a day and I (+ lots of doctors which know way more than me and some randoms on the internet) would still consider you to be bulimic.
Though I kinda disagree on fasting being a form of "purging" (mostly because that would require me to admit to being bulimic for way longer than 3 years lmfao) but overexercising and laxatives def are.
@@StarkArsonist DSM 5 diagnostic criteria of bulimia states that it is bulimia if you binge and then engage in any compensatory behaviours including vomiting, laxatives, over exercising and fasting.
So beautiful, and surprisingly in Dutch. Ik vond het een inspirerende documentaire. It was very relatable.
i have had ednos that started from having anorexia at a younger age, i will binge and not control it and have constant binges for months then go to starving and losing alot of weight, with exercise. but because the binging puts back on the weight i lose when i don't eat, people don't see it as anything but me being pathetic. but in reality ednos is so hard, and unlike bulimia, most people see it as an 'attention seeking disorder' when its ruling my life.
anorexia can be invisible too
we know
eh for some dumb reason you have to be actually underweight to be diagnosed with anorexia, and it's kinda easy to tell if someone us underweight.
whitney reedy yeah but actually it's stupid cause you can be overweight and anorexic it's like your mind stuff
monnie xxo yep.. That's what I'm dealing with right about now. but i don't make the books. I think that's why they came up with EDNOS.
yes, but then it counts as EDNOS/OSFED
I have EDNOS (atypical anorexia for the most part, though I have had binge/purge behaviors). This video is so important because what most people don't realize is that there are usually more factors to "typical" anorexia (as well as morbid obesity in BED) that allowed the person to get to such an extreme weight, e.g. the family enabling the person, or some sort of trauma/abuse going on. What people don't realize is that the people who aren't enabled need help too. You wouldn't consider someone who is sent into rehab for opiate addiction and has full family support any less of an addict than one who is out on the street and estranged from their family. It's just two different presentations of the same disease.
I'm glad this is up...people think all eating disorders are anorexia but that's not true. There's orthorexia, EDNOS, and of course bulimia nervosa. I am recovering from EDNOS and it's nice to see a video like this.
It so relieveing to have someone understand. They are all beautiful
It's so scary.. as if i am the person in the video. For all of the people who never coped with eating disorders.. you should know that all of them have identic thoughts.... totally the same.. as what i think.. i do have a eating disorder too... and it's the worst thing ever
You should get help. Don't let your life be consumed by it. Take a stand for your health and your happiness.
Thank you so much for this documentary. I cried the whole way through which is unusual for me but they are heart-breaking stories and more so because they are my story too, being someone who intimately knows the complete devastation that eating disorders cause. And the invisibility is such a huge barrier. Spread the awareness and give people like me hope and help.
stay strong :)
its weird how much i can relate to this. they explain the feelings so well
What an incredible documentary- these women are so insightful about the function of the ED- it's a way 'out', a way of postponing life, a way of avoiding the terrifying prospect of being responsible for their lives, successes, failures- I so hope they are able to recover and cope and find their way back into the world.
Beautiful documentary!
sad that their friends didn't want to stay by their sides to support them through their hardships
I wouldn't call them friends... Just people they knew!
Wat zo raar is, is dat ik hier niet eens specifiek op heb gezocht. Ik was eigenlijk wel benieuwd naar wat hier wordt besproken en na het volledig kijken ( ja echt waar ), moet ik toch echt wel een compliment geven voor deze documentaire.
De meiden spreken de harde waarheid uit en ik vind het ook wel weer zorgwekkend dat natuurlijk er nog veel meer exemplaren rondlopen met ditzelfde probleem, zonder eerlijk te zijn naar zichzelf.
Het klopt inderdaad dat er eigenlijk alleen naar je wordt gekeken als je uitzonderlijk dun of uitzonderlijk dik bent. Dan gaan mensen zich afvragen hoe het toch zo ver heeft kunnen komen.
De meiden uit deze documentaire zien er "normaal" uit en roepen daarom ook geen echte vragen op bij anderen.
Wat eigenlijk de moraal van het verhaal is, is dat een verslaving vaak tot stand komt uit angst. Een toevluchtsoord creëren zeg maar. Kijk maar naar game verslaafden. Precies hetzelfde verhaal..
Zoals gezegd, ik vond dit een prima documentaire. Wat eigenlijk wel beetje raar is, is dat ik halverwege gewoon trek kreeg en mezelf ontbijt ging maken. Ook ik heb soms last van een eetstoornis. Te lui en onverschillig om eten te maken bijvoorbeeld.
Oh en ehh.. de meid met het kort gewiekte haar.. ze heeft wel wat aantrekkelijks
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I've lived nearly all my life with BED or bulimia, the only time people showed concern was when I was losing weight, now that I'm gaining it again nobody seems to see a problem. I've always had low self esteem and have openly judged my body with disgust, I feel like they just see this as a norm for me. I wish they were more concerned about me binging rather than dieting cause that's the main issue. I need support but I'm not going to bother anyone with my problems.
Seek help you can do it. Have courage and show your ED who the real boss is.
I think this is a great documentary. It is captivating in its exploration of the pain behind, within and beyond eating disorders and the complexities they involve. I wrote a brief post about it on my chrysaliscyc blog called Most Eating Disorders Are ‘Out of Sight’.
Thank you so much for this documentary. Stay strong.
Hits even harder to home, seeing as it's my native language..
For the first time I dont feel so alienated it's like some ones pulled the contents from my head and put them in this video. I've felt so very alone in my battle so mis understood and not believed this just helps to calm my fears ...
I totally relate to this video. All of it. Stay strong and heads up you two lovelies. Great and inspirational video. Hope it reaches out to more suffering from this painful and dreadful illness. God bless.
I am so tired of being this way
i feel your struggle i too am so tired of being this way, im bulimic but i do have hope that one day we wont be so trapped within the wrath of disorder
Do you know the channel "what mia did next" ?
You should get help. Don't let your life be consumed by it. Take a stand for your health and your happiness. The long-term risks can really harm you.
Yes I’m tired of this too ... i fucking hate eating Disorders but I just can’t stop this ...
This is a much-needed video, not easy to watch, I recommend you watch it to understand a life-threatening illness that is grossly misunderstood. I was once like the three young women who courageously and candidly share their stories. My heart goes out to them, and everyone who is suffering this illness today.
If you are suffering the symptoms of Bulimia, I encourage you to seek help, today! This is an illness an help is available. You CAN reclaim you!
hahaha its funny how i just a had sip of water and said to myself I would hate this world if water had calories.
This documentary speaks for my heart
fear is such a powerful feeling... They are so brave; it's admirable. Really nice documentary. I really really liked it and could identify with them. Thanks for sharing
I totally agree with you on that one. I am so ashamed of my body which is why I dress in mostly baggy clothes. All my past boyfriends kept telling me that I should dress more sexy and that put even more pressure on me and made me want to diet even more. I hate how some men just can't accept one as they are. It's all about the womens bodys these days. Everywhere you go it's about advertising womens bodys. Where are the half naked men? I barely see any.
Thank you so much June!
I have a serious ED I have struggled on and off for over 30 years. It comes and goes. I hate myself a lot of the time. I wish I could stop but I can't and I will never go back to inpatient or residential again. I will just carry on like everything is fine.
I'm sure she wants to help, but people with eating disorders feel like they have a lack of control over their own life. It's all about her mother's point of view in this interview, not hers. That really concerns me. Sandra's parents seem terrible indeed.
i've suffered from disordered eating or EDNOS for about 5 years. i never lost any weight and it made me feel like such a failure. for a little while, i actually gained some weight to please my now ex girlfriend 'cause she was worried about the damage i had done to my body. all i remember is being maybe a bit more tired, getting cold easily in cold places, and that's really about it.
please read brain over binge, therapy makes us focus on everything around us.
stress, body image, anxiety depression whatever.
this makes us put off on stopping the binging. when in fact it's the binging you should focus on. i highly recommend the book. therapy has brought me nowhere but letting me focus on my problems and WHY i'm binging but never stopped me from binging. this book has helped me. and i am completely recovered.
as i watch this documentary. their vision is the vision of the therapists. one of the girls said, that if the focus on their problems and resolve them the binging will go away. but that is not true. the binging comes from an URGE which has to be stopped.
*****
you had it and now you are healthy again?how did you do that... i have tried but nothing changed for real.. and i m afraid, i m afraid that i will lose my life, that i wont be able to have a normal life ever again...!
The first min and a half already echoed all my innermost thoughts and feelings :'
What she said about addiction is not true. It's not always because you're looking for a way out. There are people out there who live very happy lives and still end up addicted.
Thank you Ellie!
I have Invisible eating disorder. I don't eat that often but if I do I purge
You should seek help. Trust me. I have lost so much because of those who have an ED. The sooner you get help the better your life will be. It's hard, but so worth it.
Seek help I know you can do it . Determination is key.
No, this is actually Dutch, but there are many words in the German and Dutch language that sound similar, so it's no wonder you understand some of them :)
I think people should stop trying to blame others for anyone having an eating disorder. To the person below me who is blaming men for it. You do realise men get eating disorders also. As for the media I do believe it plays a role in it. but I don't fully believe someone sees a bunch of skinny girls and bam wants to starve and destroy themselves due to it. Plus eating disorders were around well before the media was crazy about super thin girls/men.probably well before there even was a media.
I heard people said that the Romans had strange things with food I have heard it goes back all the way to the time of Jesus the Romans binge and then purge so it not a new disorder.
really enjoyed this and could relate a lot!still wish i could find more about men and such things though!
I'm not sure why, but I feel like Anneloes' mother is part of what caused the problem :(
so relatable. & great documentary. very touching and very real
Although I dont think that this is the main reason that people develope eating disorders. It often has nothing to do with wanting to be thin but more with getting control over their life and being afraid of the future etc.
Hey! I'm so sorry you're going through this too, my story is almost identical to yours. I would suggest looking into alternative ways to take your medication, for example maybe wake up halfway through the night and take it with water, just keep it by your bed so you don't have to get up, that way you'll be half asleep and will fall back asleep pretty quick and hopefully won't automatically binge. Or you can get once-weekly prozac, but I dunno if that's available in Australia.
love this documentary..so relatable :(
What song was that called when she was dancing? It was beautiful, and made me feel more positive about my eating disorder
It's called Lavender Fields by Loren Nine Geerts.
praying for you.
Just wanted to say thanks for posting this documentary. I am glad I sat and took the time to watch this. It really made me feel less alone. What is the song that plays throughout the documentary? It is such a beautiful song. xoxo
Lavender Fields by Loren Nine Geerts
It's important to focus on.. Doing the things you love.. Things, people, that give you a good feeling.. maybe make some changes
You are so worthy, love love love yourself and use all your sensitivity to make your life wonderful and know.. it is possible!
my English isn't very well, but I wanted to share with you what is working for me.. I am not there yet, but I am doing very, very well and I am so thankful that one day someone shared this knowledge with me.. so I wanted to share.
EDNOS is a eating disorder that is not characterized as either Anorexia or Bulimia. They show much of the same symptoms as either or both of the two but may not be underweight or have Amenorrhea (loss of menstrual cycle). The person diagnosed with EDNOS may have anorexic or bulimic tendencies.
Oh my god, this video discribes it so well.
I watched this video because I am a psych minor and I hope if God allows to let me go into the counseling field. I have known ppl with eating disorders so I was hoping to find something that I could understand a lil bit of their perspectives. This video was very well done despite the language barrier.
my eating disorder actually started from being on a blogging website and coming across "thinspo" pictures. It definitely triggered something in me that the scale never did. So yes, I did and still am destroying myself and it all started from one summer afternoon on the computer when I saw pictures of happy, gorgeous, skinny girls.
Don't hurt yourself your are beautiful and gorgeous just the way you are don't let the unrealistic standards of beauty of a website who's only meant to hurt you take over your whole self. Try to block those pages so you don't see them.
The advise I can give you is.. think about your dreams. What is it that you want to achieve in life? And what's giving you those awful feelings right now? Are you doing what you love? Are you allowing yourself to do what you love? Or do you have different expectations of yourself? I think that it's important to set your focus, focus on the good thoughts, you are in control of your thoughts, you need to know that, you really are! Energy flows where the attention goes!
i can relate so much to them.
me too :/
Thank you!
Their fears are exactly the same as mine.. It's horrible.
I was diagnosed with EDNOS. I had never heard of it until the dr told me I had it.
This is amazing
I just want to say that Rowena is one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen...
anorexia can be invisible as well
Amenorrhea is no longer a diagnostic for anorexia or bulimia. The main difference is that EDNOS do not binge or purge as much as bulimics and they are not underweight.
I felt kind of unsetteling when they started speaking my language.. maybe because I don't realize this disease is also occuring in my country and I have never seen a documentary about this subject in my language. Awks.
I felt related to this girls, I feel sad, annoyed, tired, angry, alone, desperate all the time, and when I purge I feel some kind of pleasure, I know is so sick,,...I suffer from a disgusting ednos called C&S, you know is bad, you know you wont lose weight and that you will feel even worst after doing it....but is so difficult to stop, sometimes I wonder if Im being ridiculous and Im just a weak person that cant control herself,...or if I am actually sick and need professional health.
I WAS bulimic for 35 years. (I'm surprised i'm still alive.) Only in the very beginning i puked for weight control but very soon i couldn't change anything even if i didn't care to gain a 100 lb! When i moved to United States i got addicted to McDonald and noticed one Big Mac was never enough. Sometimes i ate 3-4 and i put on a few pounds.
So after i couldn't fit into my new clothing that i didn't even wear yet i got really upset and starved myself to lose weight. Of course when i started eating again i couldn't stop eating anything until i felt so full that i was sure i'm going to explode. I had no choice but to release that food to feel better. So initially i lost the excess weight by starving myself but whenever i ate ANY food i couldn't stop eating until it was all gone and i felt like my stomach will rupture. So it was at this point when my bulimia started. I couldn't stop bingeing and then puking it out no matter what i did. I stayed slim but i was always severely dehydrated and malnourished. I didn't physically feel it yet because i was really young. In my later years i suffered the price big time! (I won't get into that, it's too long) Anyways, it took me 35 years to find out what was the problem. The food itself!!!! When this binging/purging cycle started i was still 20 yrs old, i didn't know how to/and didn't even want to cook. Everything i ate came "ready to eat".
In the US everything you buy from the shelf or fast food places, even in better restaurants ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING has MSG added to it which is a very harmful AND ADDICTIVE ingredient. I only found out decades later that MSG changes the brain chemistry somehow. It makes you eat and eat and eat, you don't get the "enough" signal.
It has nothing to do with hunger, you feel full but still can't stop if there's more left of the food. So if you want to stay slim or not damaging your stomach seriously, you either become bulimic, or morbidly obese. No in between!
I quit eating PROCESSED food and my overeating stopped with it. Of course bulimia has underlying psychological issues too that makes you want to eat at emotional crisis in the first place. But you're addicted to the food already and that has a HUGE part in it! If you get over the cravings, (B complex + Chromium Piccolinate,) take some good multivitamins you'll be able to handle the stress a billion times better. For you girls with PMS magnesium+ B6 is a miracle! And if you eat real food (not addictive chemicals) you won't overeat to the point that you need to throw up. This is my story in a rather long "nutshell". Until i found out about MSG and the other addictive chemicals i was sure that i'll finish my life one day leaning over the toilet bowl. I was totally hopeless ever beating this terrible disorder as long as i lived.
I really hope that it could help someone who has the same problems and i know there are a lot of you out there! God bless!
God really took care of you 35 years is a lot I didn't know that was even possible I am so sorry you went through something so horrible but I know in the end if God helps you you can totally overcome it. Remember to hang out with people who keep you positive and do anything to help you recover because those people are the one that really love you. Be brave .
P.S. Don't worry God will be with you every step of the way.
What's the name of the song in 28:09 please?
I'm sorry, I'm not much help. You could even try talking to your doctor if you still find the medication isn't helping you, in my experience most doctors will try to treat the depression first, then use CBT to adapt your behaviours. You could try support groups? I know how hard it is though, but you're strong enough to do it if you're already trying to get better. Feel free to message me if you want to talk. Sorry again, I'm pretty useless with advice :/ Sara xxxx
Anyone knows the song, please?
I believe in you!
I wish we could start to understand that this is not primarily an emotional 'disorder' but addiction. SO much research has been done now on the science of 'food' addiction, which is really processed food addiction...no one binges on broccoli or even whole apples, because your dopamine receptors are not going to get a hit that way...
Would of been cool to tell me it was in a different language...
Yeah reading is hard eh
I am a Christian women, 32years old I have a husband and 3 children, I have struggled with eating disorders my whole life and I believe that the only cure is God, when we turn to him he can break us free from any addiction. I encourage anyone suffering from addictions to turn to God. xx
You are very right. although I never struggled with an eating disorder, I did with Self harm and wouldn't stop until I turned to God completely. I still have the thoughts sometimes but I turn to God instead when I am feeling it getting to me.
how do you turn to God exactly? And I say this with all seriousness. I don't suffer from an eating disorder (at least I don't think) but I do suffer from plenty of other stuff - PTSD, ADHD, depression, anxiety, past heroin/cocaine addiction, self harm, multiple suicide attempts - and really relate to the way they feel but it manifests itself differently... I am a Christian but really don't understand how to or what to do to turn to God/Christ. Idk if that sounds like a stupid question, but just wanted to know.
Turning to God means completely turning your focus onto him. Spending time in the word. In prayer. Worship and just sometimes listening or being still in his presence. The Bible tells us to seek first the Kingdom of God above all else and he will give us everything else that we need. To seek the Kingdom of God is to put him first in everything you do. The Bible also says draw near to him and he will draw near to us. But you see we have to first draw near to him. Spending time with other believers is also good. Especially ones who are positive about life. The Bible says if you hang around a fool you become a fool. I recommend that you go after God like never before and if you don't know how. Pray and ask him. Ask him to put the right people in your life and to shut doors that need shutting. The Bible also says that we have not because we ask not so don't be afraid to ask God for anything. These messages between us is God's doing. He hears our prayers and will use whoever is willing to reach out to people. There are people waiting to reach out to you so ask God to bring them into your life. May I ask where you are from? I live in Wales, United Kingdom x
Through my own personal experiences in life and an actual relationship with Jesus I can say 100% that he is real. I am not trying to promote anything. I'm living proof that Jesus is real and that he loves us and has already paid the price for all the stuff trying to hold us in bondage when he was put on the cross. My comments here are not some promotion. They are because I have a real relationship with Jesus who gets me through everything single struggle I have ever faced and because of his love for me I am still alive today.
is this in german? I understand a little bit cos im learning german
THE SAD PART ABOUT ME IS I TOLD MY PARENTS I HAVE A EATIN DISORDER. THAT I NEED HELP AND THEY DON'T SEE LIKE I DO. THEY ASSUME I DON'T NEED HELP AND THAT FOR HELP IS A WASTE OF MONEY. 'I JUST FEAR MY FUTURE AND HAVE SO MANY PROBLEMS GOING ON WISH I KNEW A WAY TO STOP BINGING ALL DAY. I FEAR GAINING MORE WEIGHT .
Well that ain't good. Sadly people are vastly unaware of how dangerous this disorders are. I really wish I could help you more.
what is ednos?
EDNOS stands for eating disorder not otherwise specified .
it is an eating disorder that does not meet the criteria for anorexia nervosa or bulimia nervosa.[1] Thus, individuals who have clinically significant eating disorders that do not meet DSM-V criteria for anorexia nervosa or bulimia nervosa are diagnosed with EDNOS. Individuals with EDNOS usually fall into one of three groups: subthreshold symptoms of anorexia nervosa or bulimia nervosa, mixed features of both disorders, or extremely atypical eating behaviors that are not characterized by either of the other established disorders.[2] In other words, EDNOS acts as a default category, and is defined by what it is not. Currently, EDNOS is the most commonly diagnosed eating disorder in clinical settings. Because little is known about the symptoms, course, and outcome of this heterogeneous category, the preponderance of EDNOS in clinical practice impedes clinical communication, treatment planning, epidemiological inquiry, primary prevention, and basic research.
source : wikipedia
note:I've only copied a little bit of what's been written in wiki ; i immensely encourage you to further read about it. i think its extremely vital to be enlightened about mental illness because you never know when that knowledge could impact someone's lives positively .
eve
thank you!
Dutch, the language from the Netherlands, commonly known for Amsterdam and legal weed.
10:55 Bah, zó herkenbaar.. maar gelukkig verleden tijd. :)
Men's eating disorders are caused by different factors than women's eating disorders. I notice that even now, there is an attempt to marginalize women's eating disorders because I believe that people are really beginning to open their eyes to how the modeling industry, society (read: men's expectations) and media images affect women. I support the fat acceptance movement even though I don't want to be fat personally, because it is a slap in the face to this nonsense towards women.
is this Dutch?
yea it is!
What language are they speaking, Russian, German?
Supreme 🤣
This video is literally me.
Yes it's Dutch :)
Bulimia is a mess. I'm glad that I don't have an ED, but heartbroken to know those that do. When you talk to them about it they get defensive and very, very angry. They want to get better but refuse help. It's sad and it sucks that people think they have to do this to themselves. Eat healthy and exercise and you'll feel so, so, so much better than you would losing weight via an ED. You have one body, treat it right.
EDs CONTROL suffer's lives like how anorexia makes them want to be stick thin (it's like a voice that tells them to do the horrific things)
You can tell you don't have an eating disorder because all of what you just said it so condescending. Probably not intentionally, but it is
Pippa Pear What I wrote is not at all condescending. If it was then I would not wish everyone with and ED would get healthy. I don't like seeing people suffer (especially those I am very close to) and thought I'd post something positive among all the negative pro-ED comments flooding this video. ED's aren't fun for anybody.
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Eating healthy and working out isn't just enough. I started working out at a gym 2 years ago, started having nutrition consultations...and it's the same torment. I mean, I think it's getting worse, though. An eating disorder is way more complex than just 'fixing' it with a healthy diet and exercise. It isnt' enough, for sure. I thought all of those things would 'save' me from my cravings, my anxiety with food and weight...but they didn't... Losing weight isn't enough because the pressure is way up! And you feel like you're on a rollercoaster every single day...and you just can't get out of it. No matter what you do (go to a gym and workout almost everyday or eat healthy meals with the right proportions, or whatever). The problem is IN the brain. I always say that 'this' will disappear with a lobotomy...which is pretty devastating...but that's how I feel it. Tried to sweep it up with physians, phsycologists, nutrionists...and it worked out for a little while...but then...everything went back to where it was...and...it is what it is...a proffound inner battle every single day...facing food as the archenemy...the devil...the punisher...and then ending up eating everything you can to soothe all that pain and suffering... And yes...it all starts in your childhood...adolescence...when you think you're not enough...when you believe you're a big fail...and you feel like crap, basically. Some kids just do alright, and I'm happy for them! But others...well...end up like this...being insecure with almost everything in their lives and trying to 'escape', from real world, on food. Not a happy choice. I don't even remember when was the last time I perceived food as something normal, something good! Well, hope one day everything will be much better...and food won't be an enemy that's consuming me inside n' out.
I have a serious doubt!! I see that most of the western people are suffering from some kind of psycoligical disorder. I m not degrading them but I wonder why it is very rare in India. Indians do suffer from diseases but these are very rare. Especially eating disorders are very common in americans. I love to watch english movies alot and i noticed that most of the hollywood celebs have some kind of psycological disorders. I am very interested in learning about psycology and psycological disorders. plz tell me what affects you more!! Is it heridity , film industry or some untold past abuse
I dont think what you said is right. If proper care is not provided, one gets worsened. And it wont become 'rare'. I m not a racist. I didnot mean to degrade western people. So in your country,if they are providing maximum care to check mental illness, why are people getting affected very easily. Are they fragile and vulnerable.
Plz dont think like i m offending you. Its just like a survey
sweetcandy girl
I am in treatment with 19 other people, so 20 total, and two of them are Indian. So that's 10% of the whole group in this one tiny unit. Just fyi.
11:13- that is like me...
I don't think it's always invisible... I'm bulimic and I binge and purge all the time, but I do it well enough that I've gotten down to 90lbs from 135
way to promote b/p !
Bulimia is far from invisible. You can see and hear those who do it. It's definitely nothing to brag about. Getting better and beating it is where the bragging (and living) is.
wow , never had of that.
The title says 'documentary', not 'drama'. Someone should fix that
haha its in dutch and i didn't evrn know that ednos is called aos in dutch
professional help*
its netherlands
Real
its dutch :)
Whoa dutch