To the west of that mountain there were massive firestorm in 2003 caused by lightning strikes. Nearly all of the national parks were burnt 4 people died, 500 homes lost and over 400 injured. the whole city was in a state of emergency. The authorities was completely overwhelmed by the fires.
The hose reel on this truck will put out a good deal of water. Looking at the smoke I would say this fire is not very big and the first-aid reel would put it out very quickly. Turn the revs up on the pump of course.
William Simmons: The officer-in-charge has to keep an eye on the big picture and cannot focus on a single micro-task. He has many jobs to cover, such as radio calls, requesting, advising and updating additional units. He also has to decide upon a plan of attack and continually re-assess and if necessary, change tactics.
You are very correct in that. He is very obviously doing nothing. At one point he even put his notebook away and then realised he did not know what to do so out came the notebook again. The officer in charge, the Station Officer, has to keep an eye on the big picture. This station officer did not even notify the neighbours that the house attached is on fire. He did not even go look at the fire as far as I can tell. Noting that the house access was difficult he should have ordered the next appliance responding to try to gain access from another road. When the other trucks showed up they also did not know what to do. This is the culture of the ACTFB, Zero training.
Not meaning to be an armchair warrior or be overly negative but as a firefighter who also drives and is a pump operator, I'm very surprised to see that it was considered more important for the driver to get a helmet and jacket on that it was to secure a water supply or charge any of the covering jets, especially given that a BA team was already committed into the building. Sort your water supply, ensure there's backup jets charged and ready to go then worry about what you're wearing.
SOP for most if not all emergency services in Australia is to get your PPE on first. Typical for police and paramedics to put their tabbards on as soon as they get out of the vehicle at traffic incidents or similar.
She is untrained. Not her fault by the looks of it. She is certainly trying to do something. First, park the truck not in the smoke, the road would suit. Turn the truck side on as the last thing so the pump and hose face the direction of the fire. Put the park brake on, put the truck in neutral, flip the power to pump switch, put the truck in drive and now the pump is running. Jump out and run to the pump panel, flip the tank to pump valve so water is now entering the pump (and stop it over heating) and wind up the motor revolutions so the water will come out fast and strong. Next grab the nearest first aid hose and run it to the likely entry point. This should take very little time with training. Training is important. Now she runs to put water in the truck. That is her job, water in and water out.
That motor driver did a terrible job from the start. Didn’t take into consideration appliance positioning. Didn’t secure water in. Couldn’t bowl hose to save her life. The attack crew went in with a high pressure reel and weren’t prepared from jumping out of the truck. Senior man should have grabbed some 38mm with a branch and breech and set it up while junior man should have donned BA. Getting to work should have happened way quicker. That hose lay is a fucking mess. Just a shocking job by all.
It’s kind of difficult to understand how other countries with vastly different Apparatus work Fires. Totally different to the United States without hose beds , ready 150 foot , 1 3/4 inch crosslayed right and left. But the universal thing is putting the wet stuff on the red stuff
Just a little info that may help here in Australia we use the reel line(hard lines) for a fast attack on the fire,while roll line(soft line) is being laid out I am not a fire fighter and the terms I use may not be correct
First onscene engine crew did a great job. First in attack line was in place an operating. Backup line pulled. Hydrant water established in roughly five minutes. Good work.
The driver / pump operator of Engine 10 is really working her arse off. Also, I noticed that inside the windscreen of Engine 1, the OIC had 2 x red helmets, each a different shape. Does anyone know why? The pump operator at 8:17, also has a 'rescue' style helmet.
Yes ive seen some different types of helmets going around ACTFR lately...obviously one is for Rescues but im not sure about the others. Ive heard that new types of helmets will be issued soon similar to FRNSW along with new turnout uniforms/PPE
Got to give credit to that one engine company. They stopped the fire from getting out of hand. One crew of three knocked it down. The others waited til most of the work was done.
All I will say is RECEOVS and PACT No 360 performed, power wasn't shut off, no BA control set up and BA crew didn't book out. Made entry without BAST team on standby.
First you have to be in Europe to understand that 90% of their buildings are brick and concrete not like ours would so most fires are contained to one or two rooms at the most unless it's a very well-developed fire so their lines with the high-pressure can extinguish because they're mainly extinguishing just the contents of room not the whole Darn House
Theres a good article about why Canberra fire trucks are yellow at www.abc.net.au/news/specials/curious-canberra/2016-09-05/why-are-canberras-fire-trucks-yellow-and-not-red/7808022
Wait, you mean your houses can smolder for that long? Had this happened in America, the house would be ashes, and possibly a few of the neighbors houses as well.
Germany has them like that. They do deliver the needed water. I wonder how they find the place to stick them in the street or ground when they have a foot of snow.
We don have snow in cities, There is a blue cat’s eye in the middle of the road indicating where hydrants are located. Hydrants are under until the standpipe is connected. Less damage from vehicles and vandalism.
Good use of the first aid reel on arrival....need to get that stand pipe in and hooked up tank will run dry quick and those lines charged asap 5 min is way too long to rely on 1 line and no back up..
be sure to get that door closed, we don’t want to let any smoke get out. Poor lady i hope she didn’t get smoke inhalation. Where’s the police for traffic control? I don’t understand why the red hoses took so long to get charged. Nice to see a few female firefighters
You can't see what is happening at both ends of the street, as they are well out of shot. Clearly the police are on scene and there is no passing traffic.
They are not "booster" lines. They are High Pressure 25mm lines with TFT Nozzles and as demonstrated 1 had the fire out in a very short time and didnt even use up the tank water doing it. Whats left of the persons possessions hasn't been destroyed by water either. Welcome to 2020.
I love how Americans always find these vids and criticise them. Fact, at least we put our fires out. Your blokes would be chewing the fat off last nights pork chops before you even got out of the engine while ours are mopping up!😂
That character in the red helmet seems to be very skilled at leisurely pacing to and fro, while simultaneously attending to his paperwork. Must have passed his Multitasking 1.01 test with flying colors. In the meantime, it took over six minutes to get the first due engine hooked up to a hydrant.
@@red55chief HUGE difference. The engine companies in FDNY are usually going to be seconds behind the ladder company, and they'll have a water supply in a minute or two.
In Holland most house fires are attacked with the hose reels to begin with, and often nothing more. Two engines using 4 reels can take down most house fires. And in this video, judging by the smoke, they seem to be having a good effect with theirs. I think the hosereel as a first attack thing is greatly overlooked, as it can hold a fire while they pull hundreds of feet of hose off the truck.
@@stevebailey6403 what is how fast you are putting the water on the fire if it's not enough to even put a dent into it. You risk your life enough as a firefighter but to add to it going into a working structure fire with a booster line all you are doing is further risking your life and those working around you. As a volunteer there were times where there were just 3 of us on the first in truck. One attack line only until a mutual aid department could get there. We hit the fire with a 1 3/4 line and still had trouble with the fire beating us back. What do you think would have happened had we pulled a booster reel? Might as well stand around and piss on the fire for all the good it would do. We had a rule in our department, NO ONE pulls a booster line on a structure fire! Period!
They are not "booster" lines. They are High Pressure 25mm lines with TFT Nozzles and as demonstrated 1 had the fire out in a very short time and didnt even use up the tank water doing it. Whats left of the persons possessions hasn't been destroyed by water either. Welcome to 2020.
To the west of that mountain there were massive firestorm in 2003 caused by lightning strikes. Nearly all of the national parks were burnt 4 people died, 500 homes lost and over 400 injured. the whole city was in a state of emergency. The authorities was completely overwhelmed by the fires.
There is tremendous value in having preconnected attack lines. Would have saved several minutes on this fire
The hose reel on this truck will put out a good deal of water. Looking at the smoke I would say this fire is not very big and the first-aid reel would put it out very quickly. Turn the revs up on the pump of course.
That captain did a lot of just walking around. The pump operator must have been real happy about that. Thanks for the help Cap.
William Simmons: The officer-in-charge has to keep an eye on the big picture and cannot focus on a single micro-task. He has many jobs to cover, such as radio calls, requesting, advising and updating additional units. He also has to decide upon a plan of attack and continually re-assess and if necessary, change tactics.
Heli-Crew HGS really? That much? How about focusing on any task. Thanks for the help Cap. We know how important you are.
William Simmons: I can see that my attempt at an explanation was completely lost on you.
Heli-Crew HGS Exactly....I don’t know shit. You don’t have to be a chicken to recognize an egg.
You are very correct in that. He is very obviously doing nothing. At one point he even put his notebook away and then realised he did not know what to do so out came the notebook again. The officer in charge, the Station Officer, has to keep an eye on the big picture. This station officer did not even notify the neighbours that the house attached is on fire. He did not even go look at the fire as far as I can tell. Noting that the house access was difficult he should have ordered the next appliance responding to try to gain access from another road. When the other trucks showed up they also did not know what to do. This is the culture of the ACTFB, Zero training.
Not meaning to be an armchair warrior or be overly negative but as a firefighter who also drives and is a pump operator, I'm very surprised to see that it was considered more important for the driver to get a helmet and jacket on that it was to secure a water supply or charge any of the covering jets, especially given that a BA team was already committed into the building. Sort your water supply, ensure there's backup jets charged and ready to go then worry about what you're wearing.
SOP for most if not all emergency services in Australia is to get your PPE on first. Typical for police and paramedics to put their tabbards on as soon as they get out of the vehicle at traffic incidents or similar.
She is untrained. Not her fault by the looks of it. She is certainly trying to do something. First, park the truck not in the smoke, the road would suit. Turn the truck side on as the last thing so the pump and hose face the direction of the fire. Put the park brake on, put the truck in neutral, flip the power to pump switch, put the truck in drive and now the pump is running. Jump out and run to the pump panel, flip the tank to pump valve so water is now entering the pump (and stop it over heating) and wind up the motor revolutions so the water will come out fast and strong. Next grab the nearest first aid hose and run it to the likely entry point. This should take very little time with training. Training is important. Now she runs to put water in the truck. That is her job, water in and water out.
Well filmed. Very stable.
Looks like the first crew with the hose reel managed to hit it just in time when it flashes over at 1:14
WOW... just over 4 1/2 minutes of SOLO engine action before we even HEAR any help coming... they need more fire funding
Don’t think it’s a funding issue, it the capital city , and did you see how many appliances ended up turning out.
More like a organisational issue
That motor driver did a terrible job from the start. Didn’t take into consideration appliance positioning. Didn’t secure water in. Couldn’t bowl hose to save her life. The attack crew went in with a high pressure reel and weren’t prepared from jumping out of the truck. Senior man should have grabbed some 38mm with a branch and breech and set it up while junior man should have donned BA. Getting to work should have happened way quicker. That hose lay is a fucking mess. Just a shocking job by all.
It looks like the poor EO gal is having to everything!!!
She's multi-tasking men cannot do that unless there watching porn hub. Andy England 🇬🇧👀
But she knows her sruff!
It’s kind of difficult to understand how other countries with vastly different Apparatus work Fires. Totally different to the United States without hose beds , ready 150 foot , 1 3/4 inch crosslayed right and left. But the universal thing is putting the wet stuff on the red stuff
I noticed that too. There first line was reel line, and the other they set up was from a roll.
Just a little info that may help here in Australia we use the reel line(hard lines) for a fast attack on the fire,while roll line(soft line) is being laid out
I am not a fire fighter and the terms I use may not be correct
First onscene engine crew did a great job. First in attack line was in place an operating. Backup line pulled. Hydrant water established in roughly five minutes. Good work.
You don’t know what you’re taking about. It was terrible from the start.
@@ellis2773 Indeed.
Cool looking Fire Appliances
Canberra does not fault in funds. All is quite modern.
The driver / pump operator of Engine 10 is really working her arse off.
Also, I noticed that inside the windscreen of Engine 1, the OIC had 2 x red helmets, each a different shape. Does anyone know why? The pump operator at 8:17, also has a 'rescue' style helmet.
Yes ive seen some different types of helmets going around ACTFR lately...obviously one is for Rescues but im not sure about the others. Ive heard that new types of helmets will be issued soon similar to FRNSW along with new turnout uniforms/PPE
Heli-Crew HGS yes she done well
Ones for car crashes,rescue and more and one is for fires,hazmat,fire alarm and more.
Got to give credit to that one engine company. They stopped the fire from getting out of hand. One crew of three knocked it down. The others waited til most of the work was done.
Looked like a crew of 2. One guy didn’t do squat!
@@williamsimmons152 that guy that “isn’t doing squat” is a station officer he Took on scene command. he wasn’t assigned to the BA team.
@@canberraemergencyvehiclere4672 yeah…good answer. Stand there and watch.
You what? They waited? God go away.
All I will say is RECEOVS and PACT
No 360 performed, power wasn't shut off, no BA control set up and BA crew didn't book out.
Made entry without BAST team on standby.
First you have to be in Europe to understand that 90% of their buildings are brick and concrete not like ours would so most fires are contained to one or two rooms at the most unless it's a very well-developed fire so their lines with the high-pressure can extinguish because they're mainly extinguishing just the contents of room not the whole Darn House
Or Australia even....
In the Australian Capital Territory, why are the fire engines yellow instead of red, unlike the other Australian territories?
Theres a good article about why Canberra fire trucks are yellow at www.abc.net.au/news/specials/curious-canberra/2016-09-05/why-are-canberras-fire-trucks-yellow-and-not-red/7808022
Because they are more easily and q seen in all lighting conditions. Tho other states are dopes for not doing same.
Because their weird.
@@vikingyaffa8346 like you
Apparently it'd to please the aboriginals.
Wait, you mean your houses can smolder for that long? Had this happened in America, the house would be ashes, and possibly a few of the neighbors houses as well.
I am surprised at the size of the fire hydrant it seams quite small.
Germany has them like that. They do deliver the needed water. I wonder how they find the place to stick them in the street or ground when they have a foot of snow.
Daniel Heartsill And the dogs have no place to pee.
@@davidglaum2538 Maybe the jGerman dogs prefer car tires.
We don have snow in cities,
There is a blue cat’s eye in the middle of the road indicating where hydrants are located.
Hydrants are under until the standpipe is connected.
Less damage from vehicles and vandalism.
A much different tactical approach...will leave it at that! Main thing is the fire is out and everyone is safe!
Just as well because we don't care about Americans' opinions!
I liked the part where we actually got to watch them fight a fire. Wait! That was some other video. Never mind.
Good use of the first aid reel on arrival....need to get that stand pipe in and hooked up tank will run dry quick and those lines charged asap 5 min is way too long to rely on 1 line and no back up..
They should have a preconnected line other than that garden hose they're using. Good way to get yourself into some serious trouble....
I noticed that too. Here in the US are trucks are designed with hose beds and 1 3/4" preconnected lines. So to see this is strange.
ffjsb: The progressive Australians really don't need antiquated advice from the US.
@ffjsb you still an exssspert all these years on?
be sure to get that door closed, we don’t want to let any smoke get out. Poor lady i hope she didn’t get smoke inhalation.
Where’s the police for traffic control?
I don’t understand why the red hoses took so long to get charged.
Nice to see a few female firefighters
What the hell is she doing trying to establish water supply, lengths of hose everywhere.
Oh my god, nightmare fire
3:00 bottom right I hope that ladie made it out safe
No one blocking the traffic through the scene??
Thats a good thing!
You can't see what is happening at both ends of the street, as they are well out of shot. Clearly the police are on scene and there is no passing traffic.
Alot of fire for tank water and a booster line???
They are not "booster" lines. They are High Pressure 25mm lines with TFT Nozzles and as demonstrated 1 had the fire out in a very short time and didnt even use up the tank water doing it. Whats left of the persons possessions hasn't been destroyed by water either. Welcome to 2020.
Another American firefighter, blindly believing that their way is the only way.
Why are the police present during the fire?
Yes they were there also to assist in determining the cause of the fire while other units diverted the traffic.
Traffic control, crowd control if needed
Traffic control, and such incidents are potential crime scenes.
Trucks are pretty....at least...sigh
I love how Americans always find these vids and criticise them. Fact, at least we put our fires out. Your blokes would be chewing the fat off last nights pork chops before you even got out of the engine while ours are mopping up!😂
Did they ever get around to putting water on fire?
John Walsh: Were you watching another video?!
@@heli-crewhgs5285 I think I did
Ummm why are no officers going interior with the crews? Only one guy needs to be in command of this.Its very strange
Because its 2020. Not stuck in 1970 like you guys.
That character in the red helmet seems to be very skilled at leisurely pacing to and fro, while simultaneously attending to his paperwork. Must have passed his Multitasking 1.01 test with flying colors. In the meantime, it took over six minutes to get the first due engine hooked up to a hydrant.
Is that sarcasm or a genuine dig at the Officer in charge?
They have a 3000 litre tank and a high pressure line operating at 250 litres per minute. You do the math.
They seriously hit a working fire from the interior using a booster line? WTF?
Not much different than FDNY ladder companies using the can to darken down a room until the engine companies get going.
@@red55chief HUGE difference. The engine companies in FDNY are usually going to be seconds behind the ladder company, and they'll have a water supply in a minute or two.
I'd rather see water put on the job ,instead of ff s running round for ten mins before you see water .i thought it was a good stop .
In Holland most house fires are attacked with the hose reels to begin with, and often nothing more. Two engines using 4 reels can take down most house fires. And in this video, judging by the smoke, they seem to be having a good effect with theirs. I think the hosereel as a first attack thing is greatly overlooked, as it can hold a fire while they pull hundreds of feet of hose off the truck.
@@stevebailey6403 what is how fast you are putting the water on the fire if it's not enough to even put a dent into it. You risk your life enough as a firefighter but to add to it going into a working structure fire with a booster line all you are doing is further risking your life and those working around you. As a volunteer there were times where there were just 3 of us on the first in truck. One attack line only until a mutual aid department could get there. We hit the fire with a 1 3/4 line and still had trouble with the fire beating us back. What do you think would have happened had we pulled a booster reel? Might as well stand around and piss on the fire for all the good it would do. We had a rule in our department, NO ONE pulls a booster line on a structure fire! Period!
What a complete cluster F-k
Why?
You were obviously watching a different video.
Watch it burn????
Long haired fire fighters, Interesting. I wonder if they go into burning buildings too.
A booster line is all I ever seen charged and fighting fire???
Yeah, I noticed that too, the other that was set up was from hose rolls.
Allen Portman , if you have skilled firefighters you don’t have to drown the fire.......
They are not "booster" lines. They are High Pressure 25mm lines with TFT Nozzles and as demonstrated 1 had the fire out in a very short time and didnt even use up the tank water doing it. Whats left of the persons possessions hasn't been destroyed by water either. Welcome to 2020.
Rank amateurs
Jerk Off!
You mean, 'rank, basic training'.
@@noobarcatusplayz6219 haha love it.
Fritz Studios , you must be one of those everything is better in the U.S. trolls, your outdated techniques cost lives of firefighters and the public.
@@johnnz4375 our techniques are miles ahead of anything from Australia or NZ.