Galaxy ring discovery challenges thinking on universe | BBC News
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- UK scientists have discovered a gigantic, ring-shaped structure in space.
It is 1.3bn light-years in diameter and appears to be roughly 15 times the size of the Moon in the night sky as seen from Earth.
Named the Big Ring by the astronomers, it is made up of galaxies and galaxy clusters.
The team at the University of Central Lancashire said that it is so big it challenges our understanding of the universe.
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As a PhD student myself, she HIT THE JACKPOT for her career. Such an incredible discovery. Congratulations!
@@duffelbagdrag So what is it you don't like about this? The fact that a bright young woman discovered this? The fact that it forces us to reconsider how the universe works? The fact that you don't have the imagination to even see beyond a mere circular cluster and realize its implications? Or is it the fact you didn't make this discovery? I mean, it could have been you, right? You are an astronomer, after all...
@@duffelbagdrag also you're comparing the sky and universe... Like take a break and read your comment
@@duffelbagdrag you literally compared you finding patterns in the clouds with Finding galaxies Dumbo 💀
Maybe you should have studied English because you clearly don't know how to write a sentence.
'As a PhD student myself, she HIT THE JACKPOT for her career'
Wtf does that even mean? That sentence doesn't make sense. People need to stop starting sentences with 'As a'
Space is the final frontier.
She’s the type of person we should be admiring and celebrating instead of celebrities.
Agreed 100%
And you didn't even mention her name. She's the type that we should be funding, they need funds more than admiration.
Also, there are some celebrities who actually does good with their money and actually helps others.
@@johnlucas6683 But as a percentage of the total it's fairly rare with celebrities being super generous. Either way, charity is arbitrary in that it's based on that you're lucky enough that some other person is both having the means to and is willing to help you, and it's often based on your relationship. As an alternative, the traditional Scandinavian model of letting the state handle helping people in need is less arbitrary.
Brilliant people like Alexia Lopez certainly need to be funded. It tends to be hard to identify those people a priori to their first big breakthroughs though.
My biggest concern is not about celebrities but mostly the thousands and thousands influencers out there who promote everything that is negative about our world such as narcissism, fake stuff, excessive gym training and shit...
And we can do!
But unfortunately we are very alone in thinking this. Many people on earth are either hateful and fearful towards science, or mistrusting and conspiratorially confused about science.
I couldn't help but smile throughout this. Her enthusiasm and the significance of this--it's all really amazing
Neither could they because they were lying.
She's white, though.
@@tomhikon your brain can't comprehend science.
@@dankmemesstudios3987 flat-earthers everywhere, they live under a dome...
@@dankmemesstudios3987
😂😂🤣
Cortana: "Halo.... it's finished"
Master Cheif: "No, I think we're just getting started"
*Halo theme*
I am standing and applauding both the discovery she made and the interview she gave. What I initially read was a little misleading in terms of how these structures might form, so I'm really glad I caught this video. I was the Q and A microphone guy at one of Professor Penrose's Conformal Cyclic Cosmology lectures, and he made some excellent arguments towards revisiting most of what we thought we knew... Love that guy! He's a legend x
Does this seem something like a Hawking point?
“We thought we knew”? Rather our most updated model, which keeps updating based on new findings , thats how science works
Roger knew he was right about the standard model being insufficient, probably loves hearing about this kind of news. :)
Loved the lady's enthusiasm and passion for her topic, really well done.
She hardly made eye contact with the inteviewer; she did not explain things clearly (but instead, used complex terms), and used about 1000 "umms". Not the best person to have as an interviewee.
@@emmapasqule2432 She's a PhD student, not a teacher or lecturer. Simplifying scientific terms or jargon so an average person can understand takes experience and a bit of training, and it's even harder for someone who is obviously super excited about the discovery! For all we know she may just be on her first year of her doctorate.
@@kwongwahwong6289 exactly couldn't have put it better myself!!!!!
Her ring? Are you referring to her anus, as in her butt hole ring? Keep your mind outof the gutter mate. @@mftfvibin5252
@@emmapasqule2432 I found it to be the complete opposite. She explained everything very well and simply. But I understand. There's always someone with a tinge of jealousy in the comments. That person seems to be you in this case.
I am surprised in a positive way that not the principal scientist but the PhD student was interviewed. Congrats!
I wonder why this was done 😂
This is the test haha
Being HER discovery, makes HER the principal scientist on this phenomenal find!!! She is now famous and barely knows it so young in her career!!! It will take her far in life.
The student made the discovery. If it had been anyone else interviewed it would have been very odd indeed.
It happened to Jocelyn Bell Burnell.
Finally some news that isnt bad news
now that we've discovered their location, they will be coming for us
1.3
@@tomhikon 1.3bn light-years in diameter. I understand that you commented at least 3 minutes after watching the video. It might be best if you don't offer to be a witness for anything. I wonder if that is what people mean when they say in one ear and out of the other.
Ikr
Oh it is bad for astrophycists because we have to challenge our models
Mad respect! She did an incredible job. Props to the nice and respectful interviewer as well🎉
I loved how the anchor was working hard to make her say the whole complicated concept simpler into layman's terms
The anchor is good.
Even if he is not equipped with enough knowledge, his curious questions and patience while listening to her answers makes him smooth.
God (who is not human, jew) is best creator to whom we all shall return. what bad day it will be for disbelievers.
1. Why would it be a bad day? Is this 'god' you worship vain, spiteful & vindictive enough to punish people that disagree with it? In which case doesn't such human emotion make it fallible? In which case it isn't a god. So ask yourself - exactly what kind of monster are you worshipping?
2. Let's pretend this day does happen and your first thought is to rejoice that billions of infidels are about to tortured forever by this god of yours. Does that make you a good person? Worthy of 'gods' eternal love and compassion (which apparently it doesn't possess)? Or does that make you evil, ensuring you'll burn in hell for eternity?
3. No one will be disappointed when they are dead as they are DEAD. They have ceased to exist in any form - they have no thoughts or feelings by the very definition of death.
Muppet.@@syedbaqir2687
Yes! He asks the questions most people would be curious about
@@syedbaqir2687 irrelevant response
Be quiet. @@syedbaqir2687
Now she's the kind of role-model youngsters need. What a charming and brilliant person!
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@@syedbaqir2687 People are talking about galaxies and cosmic phenomenon and you are using language like "Jew" which has no baring here.
@@ZamWeazle God is not a jew, in bible jesus was jewish thats why
@@syedbaqir2687 What on earth has that got to do with this video about space phenomena??
@@syedbaqir2687 go eat dirt
The sheer scale of something made up of galaxies somehow helps give me perspective on how small and temporary our earthly problems are.
Not to us they aren't
@@alexsetterington3142beat me to it :)
I like to think of galaxies while politicians are stealing our tax dollars. It's my happy place.
@@alexsetterington3142unfortunately they are small and temporary mate. My problems and yours.
Oh it's made up alright
Shout out to the engineers who enable astronomers to look far and deep into the universe
Exactly
It really seems like she was handed a softball thesis... Because a cute scientist gets more grants for the program...
why you trying to discredit her lmao, envy is poison. live and let live@@user-iu4wh1zs6t
@@user-iu4wh1zs6t some try to justify why they feel unlucky and never get anywhere in life, some just go out and do it.
It's a computer algorithm created by her supervisor who's also a cosmologist sooooo...no engineers involved here
Knowing and truly accepting what neither we or anyone else can possibly know at this moment in time is probably the greatest wisdom there is, the closer we look the more we realise what we never really knew in the first place. Absolutely fantastic 👋👋👋👋
This is what I love about science it gives us more questions than answers and questions are infinitely more interesting than answers
I feel the Same about history
Then you'd probably love philosophy even more, which is all about questions and rarely about answers.
IN THE INTEREST OF FINDING THE THEORY OF EVERYTHING:
SOME THINGS MODERN SCIENCE DOES NOT APPARENTLY KNOW:
Consider the following:
a. Numbers: Modern science does not even know how numbers and certain mathematical constants exist for math to do what math does. (And nobody as of yet has been able to show me how numbers and certain mathematical constants can come from the Standard Model Of Particle Physics).
b. Space: Modern science does not even know what 'space' actually is nor how it could actually warp and expand.
c. Time: Modern science does not even know what 'time' actually is nor how it could actually warp and vary.
d. Gravity: Modern science does not even know what 'gravity' actually is nor how gravity actually does what it appears to do. And for those who claim that 'gravity' is matter warping the fabric of spacetime, see 'b' and 'c' above.
e. Speed of Light: 'Speed', distance divided by time, distance being two points in space with space between those two points. But yet, here again, modern science does not even know what space and time actually are that makes up 'speed' and they also claim that space can warp and expand and time can warp and vary, so how could they truly know even what the speed of light actually is that they utilize in many of the formulas? Speed of light should also warp, expand and vary depending upon what space and time it was in. And if the speed of light can warp, expand and vary in space and time, how then do far away astronomical observations actually work that are based upon light and the speed of light that could warp, expand and vary in actual reality?
f. Photons: A photon swirls with the 'e' and 'm' energy fields 90 degrees to each other. A photon is also considered massless. What keeps the 'e' and 'm' energy fields together across the vast universe? And why doesn't the momentum of the 'e' and 'm' energy fields as they swirl about not fling them away from the central area of the photon?
And electricity is electricity and magnetism is magnetism varying possibly only in energy modality, energy density and energy frequency. Why doesn't the 'e' and 'm' of other photons and of matter basically tear apart a photon going across the vast universe?
Also, 'if' a photon actually red shifts, where does the red shifted energy go and why does the photon red shift? And for those who claim space expanding causes a photon to red shift, see 'b' above.
Why does radio 'em' (large 'em' waves) have low energy and gamma 'em' (small 'em' waves) have high energy? And for those who say E = hf; see also 'b' and 'c' above. (f = frequency, cycles per second. But modern science claims space can warp and expand and time can warp and vary. If 'space' warps and expands and/or 'time' warps and varies, what does that do to 'E'? And why doesn't 'E' keep space from expanding and time from varying?).
g. Energy: Modern science claims that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it's one of the foundations of physics. Hence, energy is either truly a finite amount and eternally existent, or modern science is wrong. First Law Of Thermodynamics: "Energy can neither be created nor destroyed." How exactly is 'energy' eternally existent?
h. Existence and Non-Existence side by side throughout all of eternity. How?
@@charlesbrightman4237 no need for the shouty all caps or melodrama of finding the theory of everything I believe Douglas Adams has that covered
@@charlesbrightman4237 Yes, I’m guessing the list could go on too. I’m always amused by how current thinking or science etc can be ‘challenged’ just because someone has actually looked in a new way or a different way and discovered something that changes the thinking. At least nowadays ‘they’ seem to be more open to actually acknowledging such discoveries rather than refuting them, and for a young woman to discover it and be acknowledged has to be a good thing and is perhaps as big a step for mankind as the find itself…
What a lovely smile and so nice to hear of her discovery. I hope she has great success in her career and life ahead.
she is a hot babe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God (who is not human, jew) is best creator to whom we all shall return. what bad day it will be for disbelievers
I bet you are super fun at parties. @@syedbaqir2687
@@syedbaqir2687 so are we going to go to hell then?
@@handsome_man69 It's a bot, it's a bot! Don't fall for it.
Very impressed with the interviewer here, that knows how to pose a question when neither we, nor he, knows exactly what questions there are to ask.
God (who is not human, jew) is best creator to whom we all shall return. what bad day it will be for disbelievers.
@@syedbaqir2687get back in the mental asylum!!
@@syedbaqir2687 Bot
So your impressed with him guessing what to ask?
@@Decton no not just 'guessing' he doesn't know a lot about the subject cause obviously hes not a PhD student, but he thought about the questions he was going to ask and did a good job following up on what she said with another good question, which probably warrants praise from the student too as she explained it well enough that he could get the general idea and be able to ask a follow up question.
"A long time ago in a galaxy far far away."........
These discoveries give me "A New Hope"
Congratulations on all your hard work paying off and making such a discovery. Fantastic achievement well done!
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This is an amazing discovery, and this young lady has managed to solidify the next 50 years of her career. Should she choose to avail herself, she will find herself on the top every invite list for the rest of time.
She was young several years ago now she is not stop spreading misinformation
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@@syedbaqir2687reporting you for spam
@@stanpikaliri1621how is she spreading misinformation?
@@syedbaqir2687shut up 😂
Only in physics can someone be like "I found something that breaks everything we thought we knew. Hurray!"
You just described science
@@kikidevine694And that’s what makes science so much better than religion!
@@deanlowdon8381Only as a way to help us understand things though. If you need a way to control the masses and extort money and power from them, religion wins every time!
Edit: Actually that is slightly unfair.. plenty of religious practice does not exert control and extort money and merely offers guidance and ideas. Philosophy can be hijacked by bad actors and members exploited for material gain. It's a mixed bag. Apologies for being serious but there will always be somebody who gets upset by humour with nuggets of truth in it..
@@flannel2699 I agree with your original statement…
@@deanlowdon8381 Yeah, I stand by it. I have heard descriptions though of religious structure and practices that don't appear at all problematic but they're nothing like the popular abrahamic bunch. I suppose religion is no more monolithic than anything else (except monoliths, of course..).
*Congratulations on your discovery! May you have a bright career in your chosen field. We need more women and people like you. Truly inspiring!*
Bold statement 😂
Your sexism is also truly inspiring
@@Decton *We need more women and people like her doing science, especially cosmology. More women means more opportunities for scientific discovery.*
@@SonOfSassy*Of course. That's how we should always celebrate great women.*
Get therapy
I'm so happy for her, kudos to her hard work.
I was so confused at "50 times the size of the moon" at first lol
had to go back and hear him say the whole sentence again
Yeah it’s obviously much bigger is what I was thinking 😂
As seen from earth are the key words
thanks, I was confused since I did not catch that.@@Spacemaaan
It's an insane size when you think about it. Even our nearby galactic satellites, the Globular Clusters known as the Magellanic Clouds appear only a little larger than the moon in the sky.
English lol the power of language
Congrats Miss Alexia Lopez, what a discovery at a young age- No doubt she will go far in her field
@@duffelbagdrag take off the tinfoil hat you moron. I don’t have the energy to argue with stupidity
@@duffelbagdrag you clearly didn’t listen.. this might change the way that we model the universe within calculations and simulations.. it’s a pretty big deal for science and astrology ya silly miserable melon
@@duffelbagdraginsecure dudes on the internet just *have* to disparage females who are smarter than them
@@duffelbagdrag The entire edifice of modern cosmology rests on a cartoonish assumption (called the “Cosmological Principle”) that the universe is essentially uniform at the largest cosmic distance scales. The physical interpretation of Hubble’s law, that of an expanding universe, our estimates of cosmological distances, and even the notion of that the universe expansion is accelerating are only as settled as they are because assuming that the cosmological principle is true artificially forces a reduction in the possible interpretations that are available with the data collected from telescopes.
@@duffelbagdrag And above you'll see what happens when you're plainly just too stupid to understand why something is noteworthy..
Interesting! It makes me wonder how many more super structures might exist that we cannot see due to our angular view of them (like looking head on into an arc or ring)?
I can't wait till we gain a greater sense of (potential) organization of our universe.
What would unicellular organisms think of a human body, given telescopes? How would they interpret a different human body?
As a provider of nutrition probably.
They'd probably fuck us and eat us 😅
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@@syedbaqir2687 Bot
You know what's more interesting?
That these galaxy clusteres probably seperated a long time ago
You could listen to her for a lifetime. Such enthusiasm is always infectious.
This is amazing. What I immediately think about when I see the image depicting the ring are Fairy Rings. I spotted one a few years ago out in the forest and it just amazes me that nature can just naturally form these perfect circles without obstruction of man. And here we are; from mushrooms in the wild, to galaxies in the skies. Absolutely amazing.
Would love too know if these objects are stationary or if they rotate in an orbit around an unknown central phenomena
Dark matter
I was wondering the same.
Whether they are moving depends n the reference point you choose. There are no fixed points in the universe.
@@clowncarqingdao So there could be numerous "Galaxy Rings" strewn across the universe where the open ring is not facing us from our vantage point and we haven't noticed or discovered yet.
@@clowncarqingdao If it is rotating, the reference frame in which it would be viewed at “rest” would be a rotating non-inertial frame of reference. If it rotates, then there would be no inertial frame of reference below the speed of light where it would not be rotating.
I hope to God that this phenomenal human gets all the accolades and support she fully deserves, irrespective of all the politics involved in academia.
Huge congratulations.
No such thing as god
Enjoy your deluded life, but FYI your god has nothing to do with this (or anything at all, for that matter!).
@@GMD023John 3:16
@@GMD023🤓
Prove it. @@GMD023
It should be named The Alexia Ring . It sounds good to me it has a kind of Ring to it ! Well done, I hope the word gets around 😊❤🎉
It's probably dependant on the discoveree how they name things, i think it's common to use the last name though. So Maybe 'The Lopez Ring' would be more fitting :)
I think the smile is a precursor shock wave event. I bet that was an old bang regarding spreading distance-time. I would like to know what gathers to do this? Thier has got to be more and which theory it fits best hummmmmmmmm?
Or just Alexia’s Ring
Give her a ring…
And as always more knowledge reveals more new knowledge. So wonderful to be alive to experience these new discoveries.
I love space and how it constantly reminds us of how tiny we are
And we still seem to be the only planet with life. It’s incredible
Somehow this Little Rock we’re living on is fill of beta like you
Somehow this Little Rock we’re living on is fill of beta like you
Somehow this Little Rock we’re living on is fill of beta like you
Somehow this Little Rock we’re living on is fill of beta like you
It's also quite possible, the models they've been using are based on the size of the observable universe. This new info might just as well be used to estimate the size of the entire universe, so the smoothness predicted could still hold.
💯
👍
It's generally accepted that the size of the universe is infinite, not because we cant see/measure past a certain point but because of a basic thought experiment, let's say we have a spaceship faster than light and we would be able to travel to the edge of the universe, and then we cross the boundary, "leaving" the universe. The result is that we actually didn't leave it, instead we just enlarged the universe since our ship and the people inside are part of the universe.
In a similar vein, let's say we stay on earth but have some magical super fast & capable radio telescope stuff that we could use to get the size of the universe, we send signals in all directions and listen to when they return to determine our distance to "the objects at the very edge", it would still have the same effect, because those radio signals that don't hit anything would continue & because they originate from within the universe the radio signals would just keep expanding the universe.
Add to that the idea that the universe is constantly expanding (proven fact actually) and we end up with a infinite size universe no matter how you would try measure or define it.
@@suicidalbanananana Your "mind game" assumes the universe has a penetrable edge. Does it? We don't know, do we? And just because no signal comes back also doesn't mean it doesn't have a finite edge, only that we may not have reached it yet.
God (who is not human, jew) is best creator to whom we all shall return. what bad day it will be for disbelievers.
That's mind-boggling 1.3 billion light years🤯
No way I'm pulling out.
Her expressions should be captured and used in animation. The enthusiasm and happiness is so pure
Straight out of a Stephen Baxter Sci Fi book. Unreal.
Been a while since we've discovered a ring that is actually pleasant to hear on the news
I discovered my ring
@@TheBanana93You wanna put some cream on that then and see a doctor.
Not since those nice boys with the hairy feet got back from tossing that nasty ring into the fires of Mordor have I heard a good ring story.
God (who is not human, jew) is best creator to whom we all shall return. what bad day it will be for disbelievers
@@syedbaqir2687 Oh shut up already you freaking idiot.
Well done young lady. I am in awe of your discovery
oh ofcourse you are you horny b@stard
Not to mention the "Great Arc" 9.3 Billion light years across. I have trouble conceptualizing the size of one LY.
What an unbelievable career defining discovery!!
I'd like to think that my dad is seeing this Big Ring every day. He always did love anything to do with the Cosmos.
He is the whole universe 🌌💙
My guess is there is something massive holding those galaxies on a ring structure, it looks like they might be orbiting something massive to be held in a ring-like structure.
aliens*
The mother of all dyson spheres perhaps?
A black hole maybe?
I bet it's baby jesus.
Weather balloon
Rodger Penrose is also a massive brain.
I like his theory of parts of the universe forgetting what they're doing and having another local Big Bang.
Sounds extremely creative: creating lots of universe.
Local Big Bang, I say, 😂
Well, they start locally anyway.
really bright minds! Both the host and the guest! Glad im one of the few first hearing about this!
Why are you glad about this?
My respect to this scientist and also to Sir Roger Penrose who despite his age is seemingly still on the cutting edge 👍
Legend indeed
Love from India, wonderful achievement 🎉! Long live free minds!
Great job explaining in simple terms.
Extraordinario, sin duda que será un paso más en la expansión del conocimiento.
100%
God (who is not human, jew) is best creator to whom we all shall return. what bad day it will be for disbelievers.
In an infinite universe everything should exist, an infinite amount of times 💟🌌☮️
That means an afterlife or every afterlife isn't a possibility it's inevitably..
@@jajupa78indeed. So just believe which one you want i suppose
Imagine throwing your work mates under a bus this hard.
Congrats to her. Good questions the host asked.
This is the first BBC News story I've watched since 2017. Also a nice reminder that there is still real science happening in universities.
God (who is not human, jew) is best creator to whom we all shall return. what bad day it will be for disbelievers.
I am *so* happy for this young lady. Good on her! 👍
I am not clever but how do you differentiate between this and randomised clustering where they just happen to be in the locations they are in?
in 3d it forms a helix, which paints a better picture. This ring (helix, actually) is also so insanely large that we don't know how the galaxies got arranged like this at all
Now we need to develop Spartans and a proper space travel system to visit the Halo.
This is what Brian Cox and of course Carl Sagan wanted. To inspire people and make them want to find out more about our universe.
Sir Patrick Moore would of been proud, well done young lady.
Sir Patrick Moore would HAVE been proud. Elementary English.
He certainly wouldn't "of" been proud have all the idiots around these days who don't know the difference between have and of!
Pompous much..... Just English 👍
That sentence didn't read right 😂
"Have" since its past terms for that particular individual
Wish my daughter grow up to be like her
She discovered The United Federation of Planets! 😃
More like the round table of the Q.
So it’s so big that it’s bigger than we thought big really was. So like bigger than we can even imagine. It’s like bigger than the previous big we struggled to imagine. Now we definitely can’t imagine how big this kind of big is. Awesome. Back to crisps now.
I just love the fact this incredibly intelligent and skilled woman is so young, beautiful, and has a fabulous accent! She defies stereotypes as well as her discover defies known space. Give this girl her own TV space program to present and let her inspire a new generation of scientists!
In all fairness it takes a keen intelligent eye to detect un uniform clusters a new ring as well telescope has been able to detect more than we have ever seen before as I’ve worked on some of its features …. I personally love this and am happy for this lovely lady I’m fascinated with astronomy how theory meets probability mixed with cosmological findings….
A star is born.
Galaxy ring discovered and humans are still fighting with each others with their differences.
With individuality comes conflict, especially across 8 billion individuals, we will never get rid of conflict but we can make it more bearable and humane
Because most of people are actually in auto mode, almost like they in a pre-recorded movie. Takes deep thought to be always fully aware that everything every second is happening fast in real time and before you know it you are dead. Wish we spend more time focused on love and understanding what the hell the universe is, rather than fighting over pieces of land or being occupied about what skin color someone is 🤦♂
I have no clues what she is talking about, but I love her smile and sincere enthusiasm on the subject 😂
I wanna stick my d1k innit
I’m so thankful that people like this incredibly smart woman exist. Such a cool discovery. So thankful to her and her crew
You’re going to go really far one day awesome research
We will continue to find things that defy our understanding, we are still infants grasping for answers in a vast universe. What an incredible discovery!
Roger Penrose's alternative theory of cosmology known as "Conformal Cyclic Cosmology" (CCC) postulates a cyclical nature of the universe, and that the universe goes through infinite cycles. Each cycle begins with a Big Bang and ends in a smooth and uniform state. This is fundamentally different from the standard model, which posits a single Big Bang as the beginning of everything.
I was thinking about this, and one of the proposed ways of confirming those predictions was finding unusually large-scale ring structures in the CMB I think?
@JohnVance Sir Penrose's theory involves certain possible gravitational irregularities resulting from the last remnants of evaporated ultramassive black holes, a kind of "ghost", in the reboot that (I suppose) could easily generate as a result a superstructure like the one being debated.
She is amazing, Most scientists always put their understanding of the universe before actually discovering the true nature of things.
It would be interesting to know how far each galaxy in the ring is away from us, and how the ring then looks from different directions.
It could be that the galaxies in the ring turn out to be far enough from each other that, from another viewing angle, there is no ring at all. In the same way that Orion’s Belt looks like the stars are next to each other, when in fact it is just the coincidence of the viewing perspective that ‘creates’ the picture.
They've had an increasingly solid 3d map of the visible and near-visible galaxies for over two decade via Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS) and other techniques. They didn't publish this without adequate mathematical and statistical certainty.That said, if you have a different hypothesis, you should test it and publish your results.You can be sure other scientists are doing it right now.
@@mattcwatkins thanks for your reply, appreciate the info - was hoping this would be the case!
Assuming then this is a genuine structure, you would have to assume there are many others in the universe like it (assuming a non-artificial formation). Would love to know the answers of next steps taken, such as:
- Any rotational analysis of the ring (angular speed, momentum, centripetal force, etc.) and therefore, if a central ring mass is responsible for their attraction
- If any particular galaxy types are in the ring, rather than just random
- How the ring is located compared to other galaxy clusters in the region
- The approximate age of each galaxy in the ring
@@LukeMancell All those may be possible. I would note that I Googled and this isn't the young lady's first discovery. In fact, on the map of the ring in the video you also a see a "giant arc".
She seems to have spotted that in 2021. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_Arc
These discoveries have broad implications for progressing and probably changing our understanding of the cosmological universe.
In other recent reporting on this you’ll find the “circle” takes the form of a corkscrew, pointed in our general direction.
Stop thinking. You're supposed to gush over her and make some stupid emotional comment about hos big the universe is, etc., etc.
Damn. She’s one FINE PhD astronomy student. Knew I should’ve gone that route. But on the real, amazing discovery. Absolutely stunning and amazing to learn about. I could listen to her talk for days about this too.
Hmm, given the sheer size of the universe (if it should have a limited size ...), wouldn't it be possible or thinkable that a large structure like this one exists by ... accident ... just randomly, thereby defying known concepts like uniform distribution of matter across space?
yeah the question is how do we mathematically model these accidents, or are they accidents at all. Once we understand the math better we'll be able to say for sure. That's what everyone is trying to do though, give a grand unified theory and have been trying for centuries as we get better telescopes and measuring instruments we keep finding more stuff, the rabbit hole goes deeper and we barely keep up trying to make the math make sense.
For multiple millennium's you mean, not just centuries. A very ancient science it is, studying everything our skies to make sense of our earth lives!@@ayushsharma06
(if it should have a limited size ...), nope, it was infinate to start with.
We already knew that galaxies tend to be arranged along a pattern of clusters and filaments. If you imagine a relatively random 3D net-like pattern, that's fairly close to how it appears. Various hypotheses have been proposed to explain how the universe came to order itself like that following the big bang. So to come across galaxies arranged in a circle, within our observable universe, challenges those existing hypotheses. It throws up all sorts of questions regarding the formation of the Universe following the big bang and how that relates to the cosmic microwave background (CMB). But that's how science works. It's a journey toward discovering the truth about the universe around us, and nothing is ever written in stone. Existing ideas are always being challenged by new discoveries. That's how we learn.
That was what I thought. It’s just a ring, it’s not like it’s a shape that doesn’t occur quite easily in nature, if it was the ‘big hexagon’ I’d be more inclined to buy it. Or if we’d found three of them.
I love hearing about scientific discoveries like these. It's such a relief from the ugliness of war and crooked politicians. Seriously, well done Alexia and thank you.
Same, I find space fascinating.
Turn off your pc, phone or labtop, go into a quiet room and just sit there for 5 minutes and youll feel better
Now that is fascinating cause I always thought it strange that galaxies were moving apart. Being such large masses of immense gravitional influences. It's really amazing to see that galaxies and there clusters almost like orbit each other due to that...like large scale solar systems. A wonderful patterning of the Universe. Everything orbits something. If I can interpret what this means. Incredible
She also discovered the moments that these galaxies were to cease existence from the ultra massive black hole (not observed, of course,) and that's pretty neat. Go human! ❤
What an amazing discovery and can't help but smile along with her :)
Is there any protomolecule being detected in that ring structure?
First thing I thought of. I'm actually rewatching that now!
I see you, beltah loadah...
Lol I hope so but this gives me hope somewhat whatever connects the structure could be use to maybe help create a warp drive or something like maybe we can discover a structure near us that we can use like a tunnel to travel through or something or it could be a gate somehow
Lol I hope so but this gives me hope somewhat whatever connects the structure could be use to maybe help create a warp drive or something like maybe we can discover a structure near us that we can use like a tunnel to travel through or something or it could be a gate somehow
Lol I hope so but this gives me hope somewhat whatever connects the structure could be use to maybe help create a warp drive or something like maybe we can discover a structure near us that we can use like a tunnel to travel through or something or it could be a gate somehow
I need her to start a youtube channel so we can hear her talk about this stuff all the time
lmao bruh
Awesome. Congrats, Alexia. It should be called the Lopez Loop
I love the twinkle in her eyes when she talks about it✨. She absolutely loves what she does. Congratulations on this awesome discovery!
Very exciting! Congrats to her! 🎉😊❤
Amazing discovery she has made a name for herself. Congratulations to the young scientist an amazing discovery. Her smile is infectious and her enthusiasm is inspiring. AT LAST SOME GOOD NEWS. Well done BBC for picking the story up
What it shows is we know very little about the universe.
It still boggles my mind just how far away the rings are, and also just how big our solar system is. I don’t think the human brain can fully comprehend the size and structure of the cosmos
Damn...at last a good looking scientist! Brilliant discovery!
This is the first bit of good and positive news I've heard in years from the BBC. Wait until AI gets a hold of our understanding of the universe, it'll be finding things like this everyday. Great story 👏🏻 well done.
What a grotesque way to take away from the achievement of this amazing young physicist! AI could never even hold a candle to her enthusiasm, passion, and expertise in this field. Discovery requires invention, and that is something uniquely organinc - something AI will never be able to recreate. Shame on you lol
@GeoffreyHellington Kids are asking Alexa questions that they used to ask their parents, that's a shame. You obviously have no idea what the word "grotesque" means? I see you also missed my first sentence where I used the words "good" and "positive." As a fellow human and Lancashire lad, I'm very happy for the young lady and proud we "Brits" can still deliver some new discoveries for the world to research.
@@GeoffreyHellington grotesque lol can't we praise her whilst wondering what other equally interesting things AI might find? It can and has made amazing discoveries no human could and we should embrace that
AI can't draw hands due to their 'complexity' so I think AI might struggle with this
@@GeoffreyHellington Y’all make A.I to be this big bad thing just because it has potential to be better than us at certain things. I care more about new findings from the universe than some random student’s “passion”. Leave all that sappy stuff for Christianity or something
Imagine Love Island but with people like this instead. Wouldnt that be awesome?
Wake up the chief, we found a HALO
This is fascinating. What's inside the ring then? I had never thought about the possibility of defining a galaxy without a center.
It is a ring of galaxies 13b ly across.
It's not a single galaxy, but a cluster of galaxies forming the shape.
With this size a lot lot lot lot, and mostly empty space
“If you can't explain it to a six-year-old, then you don't understand it yourself” Albert Einstein.
"Quotes on the internet are often made up." - Abraham Lincoln. Jokes aside you are in fact misattributing the quote to Einstein.
Most quotes are misattributed. 14% of all people know that@@SuperRararasputin
Well done, Alexia! Very interesting. I am honestly not surprised. I think that our understanding has a long way to go.
I have a unique hypothesis that potentially unites many parts of physics. One thing that I predict is that a blackhole is physically wider than it is visually. This prediction comes from a 4D model I have. I don't predict anything crazy like travelling back in time or adding probability events into the equation which makes me feel stronger about it. One of my major assumptions that led me to my model was that the likelihood of us being near the beginning of time, if that is a thing, is unlikely. Therefore, I assume that matter is probably unfathomably ancient. Which leads to many other possibilities, that I won't go into. I could go on for volumes with no evidence, only predictions. I have to stop myself going further into it! 😅
Fascinating 👏
Its exciting to think how much we still have to learn about everything
An intelligent, beautiful lady. This is the person the youth should be admiring. Keep doing what you are doing you'll have an amazing career
I just couldn't stop thinking about all the stone rings ,like stone henge around our planet !
I seen the pictures and that thought just popped straight into my head 🤯
And If you ever touch one of those stones, make sure you DON’T have a gem on you
You tuned in, they are connected.
I touched the Stonehenge stones and wear gemstones, not sure what you meant. @@olestokke
Gosh and mushrooms grow in circles. Hurricanes, water spouts, and whirlpools are circles. The sun seems to be a circular disk. Buttons and fairy cakes are circles. You've discovered something sinister and revealing about the universe!
Her intelligence makes her beautiful
So does her actual beauty.
Really nice to see how excited she is about her discovery. I'm happy for her. =)
As for the things we thought we knew, well... the more we try to understand the universe and everything else, the closer we will get to a book lots of us thought it wasn't that important.
The encyclopedia?
@@CustardSpacethink they’re referring to the Bible
Wow that's awesome timeless
Make stochastic noise patterns and you’ll find perfect circles in it. Anyhow, this further proves Electric Universe theory
I found this quote from Lopez: ""We could expect maybe one exceedingly large structure in all our observable universe." The article doesn't elaborate on the quote, but presumably Lopez is addressing the statistical likelihood of a structure on the scale of the Big Ring appearing at random. Now that we've discovered multiple giant structures, it seems unlikely that these are random