Did you find this video surprising? I bet that for most people there was a lot of very unexpected information here about how coherence and cohesion is marked.
@@s.takana6268 To be fair, it is only a small issue and their assignment of grade is pretty consistent, but it was worth pointing out that they definitely struggled to some extent compared with marking for the other sections.
Thanks Mr David for the books you wrote ! I purchased the PDF copies today ..They are quite affordable and I'm on the edge of my seat to read and study the most reliable sources on the Web.
@@TEDIELTS Your writing is actually exceptional as I've been reading through your website for the last month and decided to get those valuable books ASAP.. God bless you always and abundantly Mr David
What a rich video ! Thanks so much Mr David . I watched the video twice and got interested . I downloaded the Band descriptors PDF to look deeply on CC . Could you please give me a link to using cohesive devices appropriately if available in your website ?
Thanks! I have two posts about cohesive devices. The first is a general look at how to use them and the second focuses on errors that people make: ted-ielts.com/cohesive-devices-ielts-writing/ ted-ielts.com/cohesive-devices/
@@TEDIELTS definitely. The fact that Band 9 criterion is about using cohesion so that it ‘attracts no attention’ makes it doubly difficult to teach! How do you teach people to use something that is almost invisible 😃?
@@IELTSwithFiona Yes! I sometimes have very high-level students who are going between 8 and 9 for various parts, and it's really hard to explain what the difference is. There's a fairly big difference, I'd say, between 6 and 7 for most criteria, but when you get higher it's largely about the language being more "natural."
Written by David S. Wills, "Grammar for IELTS Writing" is a fantastic book from where you can learn all the grammar skills you will need in the IELTS exam. I strongly recommend you guys to go and check it out; it will boost your IELTS score. Finally, I wanna thank this gentleman for his efforts in making such a wonderful book.
My pleasure. There is so much bad information online right now that I feel obligated to counter it with some good advice and real research that can genuinely help people.
Thanks a lot for explaining these things. I believe that each IELTS candidate should receive an elaborate test report that details exactly why they got the score that they did. If not elaborate, at least some hints should be provided. This would makes things so much easier. I don't think this is too much to ask. Or else the students will keep forcing cohesive devices and weird synonyms.
Exactly! I agree with you 100%. It is such a ridiculous system at present. If people knew, for example, that their CC score was low, they could work on that and improve more effectively.
Can you please explain paragraphing a bit further. As I understand organisation is all about putting the ideas in the right order. For example, in argument-led essays, probably writing from other people's perspective in the first body paragraph and yours in the second is the way to go. What paragraphing means is not that clear though.
I guess we could say organisation is about arranging/grouping ideas. Paragraphing is more about how that is set out in a technical sense. The main thing you need to know is that your essay should have clear paragraphs, with each sentence in that paragraph adding up to a coherent idea. You can think about your topic sentence presenting the main idea, with each additional sentence supporting it. Perhaps this can help you understand it more clearly: ted-ielts.com/how-to-structure-a-paragraph/
Yeah. They have a difficult job but they are well trained. The research indicated that they gave grades fairly but that this was just harder than for other sections.
I wonder whether Ielts examiners who mark the writing test are native speakers or non-natives . I took the test twice in an Arab country and noticed that the 1st speaking examiner had an Indian accent while the other was African with an American accent .
The majority are native speakers but not all of them. In terms of qualifications, you really just need to have a CELTA. However, they are quite rigorous and so a candidate would need excellent English skills - ie the ability to really understand grammatical problems. Obviously, most native speakers lack this so a non-native could still do an amazing job.
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Did you find this video surprising? I bet that for most people there was a lot of very unexpected information here about how coherence and cohesion is marked.
Yes it is surprising to me that examiners even struggle to comprehend coherence and cohesion.
@@s.takana6268 To be fair, it is only a small issue and their assignment of grade is pretty consistent, but it was worth pointing out that they definitely struggled to some extent compared with marking for the other sections.
@@TEDIELTS thank you for clarification
Thanks Mr David for the books you wrote ! I purchased the PDF copies today ..They are quite affordable and I'm on the edge of my seat to read and study the most reliable sources on the Web.
That's lovely to hear. Thanks for buying them. I'm proud of them, especially the "How to Write the Perfect Essay" book, which I think is the best.
@@TEDIELTS Your writing is actually exceptional as I've been reading through your website for the last month and decided to get those valuable books ASAP.. God bless you always and abundantly Mr David
What a rich video ! Thanks so much Mr David . I watched the video twice and got interested . I downloaded the Band descriptors PDF to look deeply on CC . Could you please give me a link to using cohesive devices appropriately if available in your website ?
Thanks!
I have two posts about cohesive devices. The first is a general look at how to use them and the second focuses on errors that people make:
ted-ielts.com/cohesive-devices-ielts-writing/
ted-ielts.com/cohesive-devices/
This is a really excellent explanation thanks David. 👍👍👍
Thank you, Fiona! It's a tough subject to cover and I'm glad it came across well.
@@TEDIELTS definitely. The fact that Band 9 criterion is about using cohesion so that it ‘attracts no attention’ makes it doubly difficult to teach! How do you teach people to use something that is almost invisible 😃?
@@IELTSwithFiona Yes! I sometimes have very high-level students who are going between 8 and 9 for various parts, and it's really hard to explain what the difference is. There's a fairly big difference, I'd say, between 6 and 7 for most criteria, but when you get higher it's largely about the language being more "natural."
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Thanks! :)
Written by David S. Wills, "Grammar for IELTS Writing" is a fantastic book from where you can learn all the grammar skills you will need in the IELTS exam. I strongly recommend you guys to go and check it out; it will boost your IELTS score.
Finally, I wanna thank this gentleman for his efforts in making such a wonderful book.
it's very informative, clear and to the point.
Thank you for the video and passing it to me on fb.
Thanks for the feedback.
Looking forward to your next videos .. THUMBS-UP
Thanks!!! I have already started planning it. :)
Thank you for providing such informative videos.
My pleasure. There is so much bad information online right now that I feel obligated to counter it with some good advice and real research that can genuinely help people.
Thanks a lot for explaining these things.
I believe that each IELTS candidate should receive an elaborate test report that details exactly why they got the score that they did. If not elaborate, at least some hints should be provided. This would makes things so much easier. I don't think this is too much to ask. Or else the students will keep forcing cohesive devices and weird synonyms.
Exactly! I agree with you 100%. It is such a ridiculous system at present. If people knew, for example, that their CC score was low, they could work on that and improve more effectively.
Can you please explain paragraphing a bit further. As I understand organisation is all about putting the ideas in the right order. For example, in argument-led essays, probably writing from other people's perspective in the first body paragraph and yours in the second is the way to go. What paragraphing means is not that clear though.
I guess we could say organisation is about arranging/grouping ideas. Paragraphing is more about how that is set out in a technical sense.
The main thing you need to know is that your essay should have clear paragraphs, with each sentence in that paragraph adding up to a coherent idea. You can think about your topic sentence presenting the main idea, with each additional sentence supporting it.
Perhaps this can help you understand it more clearly: ted-ielts.com/how-to-structure-a-paragraph/
Really a great video 👍
Glad you enjoyed it.
Wow I didn't expect to learn that even examiners might be confused about this 🙀
Yeah. They have a difficult job but they are well trained. The research indicated that they gave grades fairly but that this was just harder than for other sections.
I wonder whether Ielts examiners who mark the writing test are native speakers or non-natives . I took the test twice in an Arab country and noticed that the 1st speaking examiner had an Indian accent while the other was African with an American accent .
The majority are native speakers but not all of them. In terms of qualifications, you really just need to have a CELTA. However, they are quite rigorous and so a candidate would need excellent English skills - ie the ability to really understand grammatical problems. Obviously, most native speakers lack this so a non-native could still do an amazing job.