I think people have to explain why they don't like videos. I mean did they not like the product, or is it not good enough camera work for you or what? You guys did a great job. Clear info and everything I need. Thanks!
It's mind blowing that a $339+ headset isn't waterproof. I'll never support sena because of that reason. It's mounted outside of a helmet and rain exists. My $45 Amazon special headset is waterproof also has better battery life and decent speakers.... Only downside is no group mesh system (I ride alone so I don't worry about that) also no voice control
Seems like Sena just caught up to Packtalk with the 50s (except for the waterproof rating). I heard some say they have rode in the rain with no problems with their 30k, leading to supposition that Sena just didn't pay for the testing or rating.
I've chatted with Sena customer service about an IPX rating on their new 50s. They basically said it's not rated but is water resistant. At least with the Cardo units they have an IPX rating
@@Road_Rash1 BS. My 30K died by riding with it in pouring rain for about 2 hours. When i decided to change it with packtalk bold jbl, no issues at all with water. And the waterproof problem is not exclusive to my units, my friends also experience the same thing, 1 other 30K and 4 20S/evos
Older models can use the mesh 2.0 with an adapter they are selling. Its a separate device you mount to your bike, temp or permanently. Think of it as a bridge.
What about mesh ingtercom. WE left Sena 4 to 5 years ago because we just couldn't stand them any longer (after 3 years of long trips with 4 to 5 people). The "popcorn", Drumbeat", or what ever you want to call it was just too annoying. And the dropping out and having to reboot to regain communications was just awful. And any time 3 or more people were in intercom communication, music just didn't work. Sena said that they couldn't reproduce any of the symptoms that so many of us reported. The symptoms (mentioned above) were ABSOLUTELY repeatable. So we finally gave up and bought PackTalk. PackTalk does not have Ambient or SideTone, two very important features. We'd consider going back to SENA just for those two features if only the mentioned issues have been fixed. But without the problems we experienced with 3 or more users in Intercom communication, we cannot consider going back. Andy feedback on those issues?
Hi Kat we find the Senas the same as the 30k's in all specs other than the ones you mentioned. i ride a 1400 kawasaki and i have a goldwing which when in large groups and connected to the Goldwings Sena bluetooth adapter we find the senas fail to function either with phone or another connected device or headsets. if you could test them with a larger group of people to see how the units react it would be helpful to others looking for a solution to these connection problems. i know you will find these units perfect for you but multiply the connections the reports are that these 50 series are no better than the 30k. once the virus is over put a group ride together and let us see how they perform , stay safe best regards JB
YASSS! I’ve been waiting for this review! So far I’ve had the 10R, 20S, and 30K. I always felt like my 20S got louder than the 10R-I loved it for music only. The 30K has been pretty damn good to me and if you tap the rear button on the 30K you can also control your phone (atleast with hey Siri). As much as I love the 30K you may have convinced me with the speaker quality 👀👀👀 I want more bass 🙌🏽 Shared this video with all my ride homies!
Speaker quality is worth it alone... also I didn’t know that about the 30K. I thought you could just use “hey Sena” or whatever 🤣🤣 thanks for watching !! 💜💜💜
First man in the world that reads manuals. Amazing! 🤣👍🏻 It seems the 50 series has a direct button that triggers your phones assistant. I think that maybe the difference.
I have and have had the SP-52 series. It connects to my iPhone and Garmin GPS. I have used it with my iPhone for Siri plenty of times. The only issue I have is the SP-52 only connects to 1 other rider. I want the 50S for better hearing quality and for more riders. Hope I can still connect with both my iPhone and GPS with no issues.
Did you guys run the 30K on the 50s mount/speakers to determine if it’s the speakers themselves or the unit and speakers? The speakers are available separately and would be a very cheap upgrade to 30K if it’s the case. Also you have been able to use Siri/google for ever on Sena - you just have to click the phone button once to reach them (which personally I prefer to voice commands)
Been riding 6 years never thought I needed one but I might just have to get one. The only thing about the 50S is that it appears to be very large on the helmet I like the looks of the R better because it’s smaller
Idk if it is an Android thing or what, but I have been able to use Google since the 20s Evo by hitting the phone button on the back of the Sena. Also on the 30k so that's no new feature.
Thanks for the review and great video. I'm really interested about this new Sena 50 series and I'm looking to replace my Sena 10c so I'm eagerly anticipating the 50c. You should really test it against the new Cardo Packtalk as their audio collab with JBL is supposed to have really enhanced their audio quality as well. One thing I do notice is I love Sena's use of the jog dial as I've found that to be more user friendly with gloves
I literally have a Sena SMH5, the cheap $95 one and I’ve always been able to use Siri on my Sena.... one tap on the sena and I’m using Siri (iMessages, reminders, maps, everything u would normally use Siri for)
Ive never used a sena , but I think these be good idea to keep talking to my dad when he on his bike . Because he not confident at riding specially as he rides a cruiser , told him to buy a sports bike . Enjoyed the video as always , take care
So sad that there`s nobody making anything that pair with wireless earbuds.(that actually send sound through them) I cant believe that the motorcycle intercom-makers" haven`t come up with anything that pairs with my jabra 65t elites. Wireless earbuds is such an upgrade, compared to helmet speakers. Great video btw. Greetings from Norway.
Can I upgrade my 20s with these speakers? Can’t stand the quality of the 20s sound and this review sold me on the new set up. Great video you two, solid in-depth review
Thanks for the review. I have long thought about SENA but was concerned over the cost vs quality. I currently use another brand and it meets my needs. But, the SENA is peaking my interest again. :)
I find 50s the best one until now. I want to say both of u look gorgeous today keep it up Kat (all the love)+do u miss scmm party, all we need a timeeeee.
The 50R has a smaller battery & does not use a large clamp mount. It has to be charged on the helmet, no aux input or ear bud jack. Great that they improved their speakers. They had to in order to compete with Cardo's jbl speakers. In open mesh setting riders can join without any pairing... Simply come into range on the correct channel (1-9).
These must be good; this is the most excited I've ever seen Alex! Is there any hope the 50S will play well (or at all) with the Harley Boom! Box GTS? Or is Harley like Apple, going to extremes to make sure their products DON'T work with anything else?
Obviously this test was performed in 2020 and we are now in 2022. I see on Amazon regardless of the Sena headset (even the 10’s) there are side bar adds/links to the Harman Kardon sound that Sena is offering. However, when you click the link, there is no mention of Harman Kardon??? Sena advertises these Harman Kardon setups, speakers and mikes on there 50’s as the “Quantum Series”. I’m confused! Were the 50s you purchased the “Quantum Series”? If not, did they come with the Harman Kardon setup or what is being call the “HD” speakers? Are the HD speakers Harman Kardon? I’m really 😐!
2 questions... 1. How can you feel the difference of the speakers inside Shoei helmets if those helmets have speaker pockets built in? 2. Are the speakers the same size?
The reason you would want to change the wiring from your old sena to the new one, is the speakers. Theoretically, you could just install new speakers and use the old base.
I don`t know why sena decided to go with velcro tape to hold the base and the comm together...why not make it like the 30k which you can remove and just click back on.
if you whant better sound get a separate propper speakers like the Iasus xsound 3... the speakers that come with most intercom brands like sena and skalarider etc. are budget get a sett and replace the intercom and keep he speakers when upgrading... for me the sena 20s is gonna be my intercom as long as i cant have mesh and Bluetooth intercom together in one group for at least up to 8-10 riders...
Kat- how is the battery life, you loving your bass how long will the battery last when listening to music. Currently, I have a Neotec 2 and the SRL 2 that will only last just under 6 hours.
I have not been real comfortable with SENAs help line. Had some battery issues and all they wanted to talk about was it was not under warranty since I opened it up. I kept telling them it is sellout of warranty time wise and all I was asking were battery charging issues. Never got a staring answer...
Do you like it vs the CARDO type of communicators? I see the SENA is currently pushing towards the same features as the CARDO. Just wondering your opinion on the differences. Thanks in advance.
I have been using the cardo freetalk for 2 years now. I like it but I think I they oversell JBL the speakers, I might try this on my next helmet and see if there's a noticeable difference. Thanks for the info.
The speakers are terrible. I have a cardo with the JBL speakers for my winter helmet. And a Sena 50s when I ride with friends I had to upgrade the speakers to JBL $80 extra but worth every penny the Sena speakers suck !!
@@Snoopy4156 Yea I am sure they do. Opinion on Musical taste and sound preference is subjective. I have ATH M50X any helmet speaker to me sounds like trash, but if I compare it for face value, I believe Sena offers more in exchange for actual speakers. If solely shat on the Sena for Speakers, you're in a small world my friend. Until Cardo ups their game and brings us BT5.0 for the price they're asking I'll stick with a Sena. By the way this is coming from someone who bought a Cardo Pactalk Bold and had DOA, took forever for Cardo to refund me and the customer service was garbage.
What is the mah rating of the battery? Hopefully 1100mah. Are the speakers HK.? Is the warranty 3 yrs? Do the contacts on the outside get wet and screw up?
One of my biggest gripes with Sena over the years is at speed on European trips the sound was just drowned out by wind noise and you couldn’t hear music let alone any speech...over say 60/70 mph. How good is this units speakers versus the Cardo Packtalk? Also I have the option between going for this or the SRL for my new Neotech 2 Shoei...would the Mic be route-able the same way? Thanks in advance and for making this video
These should fit. They come with the riser pads n stuff so you can tune it’s placement to your liking. As long as your helmet has a little circle space for the ear pieces under the padding, it’ll be good.
Thank you for the video this one looks amazing , I own the Sena 10C Pro Camera and Intercom but the Bluetooth connection fails all the time.. software updates are not intuitive but over all is a good product.
Just to point out that Cardo units are rated at IP67 and are relatively waterproof (backed by the manufacturer) whereas Sena units are NOT waterproof or water resistant in any way. Sena units come with 'dust covers' for open ports and button gaiters etc but are not suitable for rain! Sena make no mention of 'weatherproofing of any of its product documentation. I live in Northern England and found out the hard way. Wet weather riders be warned!
Good luck getting your cheap friends to spend that. Then you have to deal with Sena/Cardo connecting (not fun). And if they went to mesh your screwed out of the group completely. Is Cardo better? Yes! Will it ever be popular? Doubt it.
Johnny Vos we have sena and Cardo friends connecting every day. No problems at all. Not sure why you can’t connect. Sena speakers aren’t much better and clearer than cardo in my opinion. Yes you can mesh
If you use a GoPro hero 3 silver, you can buy the Sena Bluetooth audio pack which attaches to the back of the GoPro. My husband and I use it for our dual vlogs and you can hear both of us through the Sena mic. It’s a nifty little device. 😉
@@williammeredith8632 I can't get my idiot friends to stop buying Sena.... I wish the new version of the packtalk slim would release so I could try to talk them into going Cardo.
Yes but does Cardo have anything like Freewire so one can go wireless with their Goldwing or HD? I don't see anything so this is a huge factor for those of us who want to be wireless so therefore Cardo can't compete....
there is no need to switch to Sena. I am very happy about my Cardo and the JBL ear speaker is crispy clear. Two features that keep me using Cardo, water resistant and easy to operate. Cardo is still ahead of Sena.
Hi Kat. How did you get your voice so clear when you were talking with the helmet on? Did you plug the GoPro with the sena mic? What did you do? Thank you
Thanks for the review. MY QUESTION--- We ride quads in the woods. EVERYONE in our group 10 of us have 20S Evo's and all the settings are exactly the same. We can never get 4 to bluetooth for very long. always splits to two sets of 2. I really cant force 9 other's to sell their 20s evo's and all upgrade to 50R's. But if I get a 50 R your saying we CAN NOT mesh. Is that correct? Thanks Bert
I had a 30k and just like like the new 50 series, it's not waterproof, in 2020!!! Now rocking the Cardo Packtalk Bold, which is waterproof. If you want better speakers the Cardo has JBL, the app and connectivity of the Cardo is also superior.
Just got the Sena 50s two pack. Have you noticed that one of the speakers is louder than the other? My right speaker is louder. Our units are all new so I don’t know why they’re like that. Should I return? Got them off revzilla
The helmet doc is def diff from 30K to 50s. The 50s has better rubber seal at the connecting point. the speakers and the whole doc that’s diff and better on 50s
Am i the only one who has to keep the 50S at max volume and still can’t hear my music really well
I had no idea you could use Siri/Google with your Sena this whole time since forever. REEEEEEEEE
ItsKatKam tell Alex to talk in Russian in the next video 😂😂
We haven’t talked in years
i would love to meet you
Thanks Alex for being here... Thanks for the information ..... Thanks Kat for the advice... Thanks for the video... Much love... Stay healthy...
I think people have to explain why they don't like videos. I mean did they not like the product, or is it not good enough camera work for you or what? You guys did a great job. Clear info and everything I need. Thanks!
My dad used to be quite the Motorcycle rider. I think now would be a great time to get back into it.
I just bought the sena 50S from dealer new for 288, and they installed it for me. Excited to ride it for the first time today!
I went with the Cardo Pak Talk Slim because it's 100% waterproof and reviews said that Cardo has better Customer service...
Mike Skidmore And better sound quality
It's mind blowing that a $339+ headset isn't waterproof. I'll never support sena because of that reason. It's mounted outside of a helmet and rain exists.
My $45 Amazon special headset is waterproof also has better battery life and decent speakers.... Only downside is no group mesh system (I ride alone so I don't worry about that) also no voice control
Seems like Sena just caught up to Packtalk with the 50s (except for the waterproof rating). I heard some say they have rode in the rain with no problems with their 30k, leading to supposition that Sena just didn't pay for the testing or rating.
I've chatted with Sena customer service about an IPX rating on their new 50s. They basically said it's not rated but is water resistant. At least with the Cardo units they have an IPX rating
@@Road_Rash1 BS. My 30K died by riding with it in pouring rain for about 2 hours. When i decided to change it with packtalk bold jbl, no issues at all with water. And the waterproof problem is not exclusive to my units, my friends also experience the same thing, 1 other 30K and 4 20S/evos
Older models can use the mesh 2.0 with an adapter they are selling. Its a separate device you mount to your bike, temp or permanently. Think of it as a bridge.
Kat: Something, something "Ok Google" [a bunch of times]
Me: Google, STOOOP!!!!!
Defiantly didn't wake up at 2 in the morning to watch this video. Idk what your talking about. 🤣 great vid
What about mesh ingtercom. WE left Sena 4 to 5 years ago because we just couldn't stand them any longer (after 3 years of long trips with 4 to 5 people). The "popcorn", Drumbeat", or what ever you want to call it was just too annoying. And the dropping out and having to reboot to regain communications was just awful. And any time 3 or more people were in intercom communication, music just didn't work. Sena said that they couldn't reproduce any of the symptoms that so many of us reported. The symptoms (mentioned above) were ABSOLUTELY repeatable. So we finally gave up and bought PackTalk.
PackTalk does not have Ambient or SideTone, two very important features. We'd consider going back to SENA just for those two features if only the mentioned issues have been fixed. But without the problems we experienced with 3 or more users in Intercom communication, we cannot consider going back.
Andy feedback on those issues?
Hi Kat we find the Senas the same as the 30k's in all specs other than the ones you mentioned. i ride a 1400 kawasaki and i have a goldwing which when in large groups and connected to the Goldwings Sena bluetooth adapter we find the senas fail to function either with phone or another connected device or headsets. if you could test them with a larger group of people to see how the units react it would be helpful to others looking for a solution to these connection problems. i know you will find these units perfect for you but multiply the connections the reports are that these 50 series are no better than the 30k. once the virus is over put a group ride together and let us see how they perform , stay safe best regards JB
Another great video! Thank you for sharing!
YASSS! I’ve been waiting for this review! So far I’ve had the 10R, 20S, and 30K. I always felt like my 20S got louder than the 10R-I loved it for music only. The 30K has been pretty damn good to me and if you tap the rear button on the 30K you can also control your phone (atleast with hey Siri). As much as I love the 30K you may have convinced me with the speaker quality 👀👀👀 I want more bass 🙌🏽 Shared this video with all my ride homies!
Speaker quality is worth it alone... also I didn’t know that about the 30K. I thought you could just use “hey Sena” or whatever 🤣🤣 thanks for watching !! 💜💜💜
ItsKatKam NOTED! And I didn’t know either for the longest- thankfully my boyfriend likes to read those stupid things called manuals and fills me in 🤣
First man in the world that reads manuals. Amazing! 🤣👍🏻 It seems the 50 series has a direct button that triggers your phones assistant. I think that maybe the difference.
ItsKatKam nice! & thanks for the review, I’m sure a lot of people are wondering if they should take the leap 👍🏽
@@ItsKatKam Cardo Bold have JBL speaks
Ordering my 50s this week!!
I've gone through 3 Sena units in a year. I'll get a cardo next time
I have and have had the SP-52 series. It connects to my iPhone and Garmin GPS. I have used it with my iPhone for Siri plenty of times. The only issue I have is the SP-52 only connects to 1 other rider. I want the 50S for better hearing quality and for more riders. Hope I can still connect with both my iPhone and GPS with no issues.
This is way better than any other sena unit..i've seen.. that just crazy..
We use the 10s right now for my husband and I, and now watching you two....I want to upgrade.
Did you guys run the 30K on the 50s mount/speakers to determine if it’s the speakers themselves or the unit and speakers? The speakers are available separately and would be a very cheap upgrade to 30K if it’s the case.
Also you have been able to use Siri/google for ever on Sena - you just have to click the phone button once to reach them (which personally I prefer to voice commands)
Been riding 6 years never thought I needed one but I might just have to get one. The only thing about the 50S is that it appears to be very large on the helmet I like the looks of the R better because it’s smaller
I just installed mine after trading in my 20S EVO and I'm very impressed so far.
Idk if it is an Android thing or what, but I have been able to use Google since the 20s Evo by hitting the phone button on the back of the Sena. Also on the 30k so that's no new feature.
Another awesome video Kat I love how u can use Google, Siri and get directions handsfree especially make phone calls and send text messages.
Thanks for the review and great video. I'm really interested about this new Sena 50 series and I'm looking to replace my Sena 10c so I'm eagerly anticipating the 50c. You should really test it against the new Cardo Packtalk as their audio collab with JBL is supposed to have really enhanced their audio quality as well. One thing I do notice is I love Sena's use of the jog dial as I've found that to be more user friendly with gloves
I literally have a Sena SMH5, the cheap $95 one and I’ve always been able to use Siri on my Sena.... one tap on the sena and I’m using Siri (iMessages, reminders, maps, everything u would normally use Siri for)
Never knew that. Lmaooooo
@@ItsKatKam happens, at least you now know :) meow (look it up in the manual)
Thanks for putting this out it helps , good video 👍
8:37 you can hear the music in the mic on the 50 but not on the 30k
Ive never used a sena , but I think these be good idea to keep talking to my dad when he on his bike . Because he not confident at riding specially as he rides a cruiser , told him to buy a sports bike . Enjoyed the video as always , take care
So sad that there`s nobody making anything that pair with wireless earbuds.(that actually send sound through them) I cant believe that the motorcycle intercom-makers" haven`t come up with anything that pairs with my jabra 65t elites. Wireless earbuds is such an upgrade, compared to helmet speakers. Great video btw. Greetings from Norway.
Can I upgrade my 20s with these speakers? Can’t stand the quality of the 20s sound and this review sold me on the new set up. Great video you two, solid in-depth review
Thanks for the review. I have long thought about SENA but was concerned over the cost vs quality. I currently use another brand and it meets my needs. But, the SENA is peaking my interest again. :)
I find 50s the best one until now. I want to say both of u look gorgeous today keep it up Kat (all the love)+do u miss scmm party, all we need a timeeeee.
they do look like star trek communicators.... also usb-c is soo nice to have.
Good review. I think they are too big. I use the 10R low profile for offroad. I would be scared I would damage the 50 series they are large.
So must ask you didn't discuss any think in regards to the camera quality on the Sena 50S. I will be looking at the 50R ???
The 50R has a smaller battery & does not use a large clamp mount. It has to be charged on the helmet, no aux input or ear bud jack. Great that they improved their speakers. They had to in order to compete with Cardo's jbl speakers. In open mesh setting riders can join without any pairing... Simply come into range on the correct channel (1-9).
These must be good; this is the most excited I've ever seen Alex! Is there any hope the 50S will play well (or at all) with the Harley Boom! Box GTS? Or is Harley like Apple, going to extremes to make sure their products DON'T work with anything else?
If I didn't have to pay for them, I'd be excited, too.
"and a wild Alex appears" 😂😂
Obviously this test was performed in 2020 and we are now in 2022. I see on Amazon regardless of the Sena headset (even the 10’s) there are side bar adds/links to the Harman Kardon sound that Sena is offering. However, when you click the link, there is no mention of Harman Kardon??? Sena advertises these Harman Kardon setups, speakers and mikes on there 50’s as the “Quantum Series”. I’m confused! Were the 50s you purchased the “Quantum Series”? If not, did they come with the Harman Kardon setup or what is being call the “HD” speakers? Are the HD speakers Harman Kardon? I’m really 😐!
2 questions...
1. How can you feel the difference of the speakers inside Shoei helmets if those helmets have speaker pockets built in?
2. Are the speakers the same size?
The reason you would want to change the wiring from your old sena to the new one, is the speakers. Theoretically, you could just install new speakers and use the old base.
I like the idea of using the old 20S base. I have three helmets with that base and will change the most used helmet over after I try it an each.
Let’s not forget the Mesh plus unit. This will allow any Bluetooth unit to participate in a mesh…
Have you tried just installing the 50s unit onto the 30k setup to see if the 50s improves the audio on the 30k speakers?
Such a nice tool!
Good explane! 👍🏻
Thank you very informative
I don`t know why sena decided to go with velcro tape to hold the base and the comm together...why not make it like the 30k which you can remove and just click back on.
What about wind noise using open faced helmets? The Cardos were terrible wind noise even with the mics turned to low.
if you whant better sound get a separate propper speakers like the Iasus xsound 3...
the speakers that come with most intercom brands like sena and skalarider etc. are budget get a sett and replace the intercom and keep he speakers when upgrading...
for me the sena 20s is gonna be my intercom as long as i cant have mesh and Bluetooth intercom together in one group for at least up to 8-10 riders...
I worked hard to enter the speakers over the ears and then space them just shy of touching. It really improved the sound and cut the wind noise.
well if the stimulus package hits again I might have to get a new lid and the 50.. good vid and can't wait to hear more about the moto
Sounds like they’re just playing catch-up to the Packtalk, though ... Is the 50S at least warrantied for water-damage, now ... ?!
No word about an IP-rating, water-something or the word "rain" on their homepage and in the manuals. Go figure.
Kat- how is the battery life, you loving your bass how long will the battery last when listening to music. Currently, I have a Neotec 2 and the SRL 2 that will only last just under 6 hours.
Hi from the UK :) just wanted to say hello and that I love your channel and your videos!!!
Dang they made those things even bigger. Have you heard anything about Sena doing an integrated helmet like they did with the 30K (Momentum helmet)?
Cardo vs. Sena
Both don't claim to be waterproof, BUT, Cardo will give you a new system if yours gets broken in the rain, Sena won't.
I have not been real comfortable with SENAs help line. Had some battery issues and all they wanted to talk about was it was not under warranty since I opened it up. I kept telling them it is sellout of warranty time wise and all I was asking were battery charging issues. Never got a staring answer...
hi, i just got the little brother from sena the 5S. i will post unboxing and review also. regard
Mine keeps saying intercom failed try again later.I like it but can't figure it out.
Do you like it vs the CARDO type of communicators? I see the SENA is currently pushing towards the same features as the CARDO. Just wondering your opinion on the differences. Thanks in advance.
I’ve never used cardo so I can only speak for Sena :/
@@ItsKatKam Understood, thank you for your reply.
I have been using the cardo freetalk for 2 years now. I like it but I think I they oversell JBL the speakers, I might try this on my next helmet and see if there's a noticeable difference. Thanks for the info.
Damn now idk if I want the dual pack of these or a plex audio 🤔
I have the 10c EVO and the base is freakin amazing and they look just the same with those on the 30K
Watching her vlog after quite a lot of time!! Didn't see any after the break up with honda!!
hey thanks for the review, looks like i might need to finally get one of those since you speak highly of the speaker quality 🤔
The speakers are terrible. I have a cardo with the JBL speakers for my winter helmet. And a Sena 50s when I ride with friends I had to upgrade the speakers to JBL $80 extra but worth every penny the Sena speakers suck !!
@@Snoopy4156 Yea I am sure they do. Opinion on Musical taste and sound preference is subjective. I have ATH M50X any helmet speaker to me sounds like trash, but if I compare it for face value, I believe Sena offers more in exchange for actual speakers. If solely shat on the Sena for Speakers, you're in a small world my friend. Until Cardo ups their game and brings us BT5.0 for the price they're asking I'll stick with a Sena. By the way this is coming from someone who bought a Cardo Pactalk Bold and had DOA, took forever for Cardo to refund me and the customer service was garbage.
Good video thanks for sharing it was interesting
and here I am with the 10C Pro...
What is the mah rating of the battery? Hopefully 1100mah. Are the speakers HK.?
Is the warranty 3 yrs?
Do the contacts on the outside get wet and screw up?
One of my biggest gripes with Sena over the years is at speed on European trips the sound was just drowned out by wind noise and you couldn’t hear music let alone any speech...over say 60/70 mph. How good is this units speakers versus the Cardo Packtalk? Also I have the option between going for this or the SRL for my new Neotech 2 Shoei...would the Mic be route-able the same way? Thanks in advance and for making this video
Work on speaker position. I can use my head unit at triple digits on a BMW K1300S without trouble.
I want this but I'm worried its going to be a pain to fit into my helmet . New to this kinda stuff . I have a shark s900
These should fit. They come with the riser pads n stuff so you can tune it’s placement to your liking. As long as your helmet has a little circle space for the ear pieces under the padding, it’ll be good.
Thank you for the video this one looks amazing , I own the Sena 10C Pro Camera and Intercom but the Bluetooth connection fails all the time.. software updates are not intuitive but over all is a good product.
Just to point out that Cardo units are rated at IP67 and are relatively waterproof (backed by the manufacturer) whereas Sena units are NOT waterproof or water resistant in any way. Sena units come with 'dust covers' for open ports and button gaiters etc but are not suitable for rain! Sena make no mention of 'weatherproofing of any of its product documentation. I live in Northern England and found out the hard way. Wet weather riders be warned!
Good video!!! I got questions answered I didn't even know I had. Also.... Why is there fruit on your laptop?
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Cardio has had the google/siri activation for a long time now. I bought the packtalk bold for about 229$ and the speakers are worlds better than sena.
Did you get the JBLs too?
Good luck getting your cheap friends to spend that. Then you have to deal with Sena/Cardo connecting (not fun). And if they went to mesh your screwed out of the group completely. Is Cardo better? Yes! Will it ever be popular? Doubt it.
Johnny Vos we have sena and Cardo friends connecting every day. No problems at all. Not sure why you can’t connect. Sena speakers aren’t much better and clearer than cardo in my opinion. Yes you can mesh
The upgraded Cardo JBLs are the best I’ve heard ... expensive, but the best ...
@@mrjaycam7086 Packtalk bold and slim come with JBL speakers out of the box.
Thank for this nice useful video, i want to know if i can use the sena 50s for calls only no music by iPhone ?
Seems like Sina might actually be competitive with Cardo now.
Total noob question. How do you get your audio from your sena when you’re dual vlogging on your GoPro video??? Anyone know may please help.
You can’t do that. I am wearing 2 mics in my helmet. One for my Sena, one for my GoPro. You have to sync the audio in post.
If you use a GoPro hero 3 silver, you can buy the Sena Bluetooth audio pack which attaches to the back of the GoPro. My husband and I use it for our dual vlogs and you can hear both of us through the Sena mic. It’s a nifty little device. 😉
ItsKatKam thank you so much Kat I figured it wouldn’t be that easy. I have a hero 7 and just got the sena 50s can’t wait.
Will the 50s connect to the BRP app used on can am?
Are you still happy with your 50s 2 years later?
Hey ur new subscriber here...hope u guys will be doing a new motovlog with Sena...I love your motovlogs specially with soo chilled Alex lol
"Everything Cardo does already"
SSJGohanMlm exactly what I was thinking. I switched to Cardo a couple years ago. Cardo is so far ahead of Sena.
@@williammeredith8632 I can't get my idiot friends to stop buying Sena.... I wish the new version of the packtalk slim would release so I could try to talk them into going Cardo.
Yes but does Cardo have anything like Freewire so one can go wireless with their Goldwing or HD? I don't see anything so this is a huge factor for those of us who want to be wireless so therefore Cardo can't compete....
Top Cardo use Bluetooth 4.1, these Sena - 5.0 Google the difference, sir.
there is no need to switch to Sena. I am very happy about my Cardo and the JBL ear speaker is crispy clear. Two features that keep me using Cardo, water resistant and easy to operate. Cardo is still ahead of Sena.
Hi Kat. How did you get your voice so clear when you were talking with the helmet on? Did you plug the GoPro with the sena mic? What did you do? Thank you
After loosing connection, did the units automatically reconnect once in range??
No reply at all from these people on any of the comments lol wow just wow
Do I want the 50S or the 50R? Also, can you charge the 50S OFF the helmet?
I've still got the smh5 but I use discord for my connection.
I need to get one!!
Why are comparing different Sena devices, if the title says everything about 50S?
Would have been nice to hear the speaker sound difference.
I have a samsung s20, and its super annoning in that the Sena responds to OK Google by opening up Bixby. Has anyone figured out how to fix that?
have you tried to see if 50s will function on a 30K clamp kit?
Thanks for the review. MY QUESTION--- We ride quads in the woods. EVERYONE in our group 10 of us have 20S Evo's and all the settings are exactly the same. We can never get 4 to bluetooth for very long. always splits to two sets of 2. I really cant force 9 other's to sell their 20s evo's and all upgrade to 50R's. But if I get a 50 R your saying we CAN NOT mesh. Is that correct? Thanks Bert
I had a 30k and just like like the new 50 series, it's not waterproof, in 2020!!! Now rocking the Cardo Packtalk Bold, which is waterproof. If you want better speakers the Cardo has JBL, the app and connectivity of the Cardo is also superior.
An OK review but you didn't address the differences between the 50S & the 50R such as the antenna and mics.
Just got the Sena 50s two pack. Have you noticed that one of the speakers is louder than the other? My right speaker is louder. Our units are all new so I don’t know why they’re like that. Should I return? Got them off revzilla
what kind of camera are you recording with? AF is amazingly fast
Sony A7Rii
Can you pair it to a dedicated GPS and test if you can still talk to Siri and if you lose any features with this configuration?
Honest question, why would you update to the 50 if you can just upgrade your 30 to mesh 2.0?
How is the volume compared to the 30k? Significantly louder? I sometimes have trouble hearing directions over the wind at highway speeds
On the Sena does it do in coming call announcement by telling you the name who is calling?
Yes
which chin mount do you use for you action camera ?
What about connecting the 50s speakers or the clamp tot he 30K? Still sound the same?
The helmet doc is def diff from 30K to 50s. The 50s has better rubber seal at the connecting point. the speakers and the whole doc that’s diff and better on 50s