Race The Tube - Can You Walk Faster Than The Piccadilly line?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The distance between Leicester Square and Covent Garden Tube stations is just 270 metres, so that does mean it's quicker to walk it than to take the train?
We tried an experiement simulating if you were coming down the Northern Line heading for Covent Garden - should you change to the Piccadilly Line or just get out at Leicester Square and walk?
The map used in this video is the incredible 'Carto Metro' you can download that here: carto.metro.fre...
Also, as Covent Garden is the most heavily used deep-level station served solely by lifts on the Tube, TfL themselves once tried to encourage people in 2005 (in a campaign called "Don't Follow the Crowd") to NOT take the train to Covent Garden, here's their press release: tfl.gov.uk/inf...
Professional London commuting. Knowing which tube door opens by the Exit
He wrote the app!
Gold Star Professional London commuting: Knowing which "No Entry" stairwell to take to get to platform faster eg: Tott. Court Rd to Central. And "never change here" eg: Charing Cross Bakerloo to Northern. Holy jeepers, they should put in a bus service.
It should be public knowledge though. Displays and boards could show this info to encourage passengers to walk a bit further earlier and spread the train and station load more evenly. This is done more prominently in Japan.
Koverpy exactly, in Japan this is pretty much standard on the busier routes
Even more professional if you know where to stand on the platform to get on the train at the right door
I admit : My Oyster journey history for today looks very strange!
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Geoff Marshall I went to Covent Garden
Yes
Is South Ealing Northfield shortest outdoor stations ?
You should organise the TfL Triathlon which is a combination of Tube, Walking and Bus. Competitors have to get between two points in the fastest time using all three modes of transport ;-)
This would be an interesting competition, you dedicate a start and end point, must do all 3 types but as a connection between 1 tube station and another so no like riding a bus one stop and coming back, or walking 50 feet then walking back, before you get to the end destination, but must arrive at the end destination by tube,.
@@hotohori69 i want to watch that.
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East Croydon to Amersham.
@@hotohori69 In Portland, Oregon, they have a 4T "Trail" that includes 4 modes of transportation:
www.travelportland.com/article/4t-trail/
Geoff avoiding 15 floors of steps, good choice there, Sir.
Storeys even. I hope you saw his video on that, it's amazing :D.
@@gojenson I was wondering why on earth everyone was taking the escalator at Marylebone. I just arrived there from Stansted, backpack, suitcase. started the stairs, then looked up. I didn't give up obviously.
I’m so glad you filled us that’s hilarious 😂
The stairs at Covent Garden are no joke
@@tvlhd If you live or work nearby, you have to climb them once in your life. It's a rite of passage. But only when you are young. Not to be attempted by the over...er 15 years of age, say.... Chuckle.
It has to be done ... honestly...
Oh...and do take essential supplies...hot strong tea, sustaining sandwiches, oxygen...that sort of thing.
193 stairs = a 15 story building
I cant believe he did that over the speaker. lol
@Wayne Herby Well you would wouldnt you.
Time stamp?
@@Alex__Butcher 5:03
It's an automated announcement to encourage you to take the lift. This station really _is_ a fifteen-storey building.
@@K-o-R Nah, it's more like a 10-storey-building.
I actually took that journey. My feet were killing me, but in hindsight, it was probably easier to walk. And I had a Travelcard, so I didn't really care about the fare.
OlofTheOrange I did this with a paper ticket, I had a travel card with me although my dad had it, so I got a paper ticket. Long story involving football, McDonald’s, and hurting legs
As a Londoner I can guarantee that them talking and filming on the tube will have made the other passengers extremely uncomfortable 😂
Tube users are always in their own world. And everyone's so used to TV crews, UA-camrs and tourists with video cameras and narration that again no one bats an eyelid.
@@davidjames579 Not true at all.
@@liamhiggins70 Mate! tourists do video diaries to upload to Instagram, so this is pretty commonplace.
@@davidjames579 I work in the hotel industry. I can tell you for sure they do not do this. Taking photos on the phone or a small DSLR is different.
@@liamhiggins70 You haven't seen what I've seen.
You make the most interesting/boring videos ever. So weird. But I keep watching.
Brian McGuinness that’s a good way of saying it literally a video of people walking around London with monotone voices but I stayed to the end
Agreed, same here. I think it's because he's a charming nerd.
It's a plain topic but it's pretty interesting!
I used to work in Covent Garden and always used to get off at Leicester Square and walk because it always felt a tiny bit quicker and was less stressful than the lifts at Covent Garden, especially at peak times. O and to tell a little story of tube nativity when I first worked in London - in Covent Garden - I decided to nip from our offices to Forbidden Planet, which was then on New Bond Street. So, being an idiot I got on at Covent Garden, changed to the Northern Line at Leicester Square and got off at Tottenham Court Road and walked the last bit. At which point it dawned on me that it would have been quicker and less of a pain to have walked it.
I think the comparison method used in this video is quite practical, so once again, well done Geoff. Although the walking might not be very recommendable on a sunny summer day.
And lucky that Geoff for waiting for just 4 for his longest try. I had to wait for *20* for my Picc trip last time.
the journey between Leicester Square and Covent Garden is not only the most expensive train journey in London, but is in fact the most expensive train journey in the world!
If TfL haven't managed to find your Oyster cards to filter out of demand calculations and similar by now, they're getting further justification today!
Could you explain? Thanks
@@valvlog4665 TfL use anonymised journey records linked to people's Oyster, Freedom Pass and contactless cards to understand usage of the network. Geoff's usage will be far from representative of a typical user but, in practice, will be lost in the statistical noise.
@@DavidWood2 Got it. Yes, Geoff doing 3 journeys from TCR to Cov. Gdn and back in 2 hrs looks super weird.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Jeff’s card was flagged for possible miss use at some point
@@almostanengineer or its logged in the system as being that of a transport vlogger and this is perfectly normal
Can't believe the Covent Garden M&S is gone no reason to rush up the stairs now haha
What about Waterloo to Southwark? You can walk along the Waterloo East platform.
"It's really windy!" Looove it!
5:04 The decals are backwards on the doors; it should look like there are yellow -- not black -- spikes to harm you if you block the doors.
There's no spikes on the door
Katie Young it represents spikes. It’s trying to trick your brain.
@@itstrain7248 ohhhhh makes sense
😂 Sorry its 2 am where I live and my brain is asleep
In standard (non-highway!) triangular hazard warning signs - e.g. as shown above the 'spikes', the background colour is yellow. I guess if this principle is carried forward to the depiction of 'spikes' they are correctly shown black against a yellow background.
@@caitlingroves2053 now I'm imagining if the doors genuinely did have spikes instead of just the picture... that would be pretty intense.
Would have been interesting to do in the rush hour: more people on the street, and (perhaps) more frequent trains.. The results could have been different.
It's usually quicker to walk between any of the central stations - surface to surface - often for up to three stops. Try it!
Charring Cross to Oxford Circus: it's quicker to walk!
Now now nigel dont be a billy bullshinner
@@johnsmith-wx5fb try it then! It may not work every time, but it certainly has for me. And no running was involved.
Sure....the walk from Oxford Circus to Holborn saves time if heading back to Liverpool Street.
It's a good 15-20 minute walk from those two stations, and around 10 on the Tube
True. I often travel between 2northdown and The Bill Murray and there’s not a lot of difference between walking and the train because you have to walk back to kings cross, get down to the platform, wait for a train then get out of Angel, plus you’ve not got to pay if you walk.
I love your videos, they are always so informative and interesting.
You know, neither informative nor interesting are words that spring to mind about this one. Entertaining does, yes, but mostly I'd go with "why?". ;-)
I had a work colleague (also from New Zealand) who came down on the Northern each morning and transferred to get to Covent Garden. He did this for a year before we realised their above ground locations.
I love taking on the stairs at Covent Garden station 😁 also the distance between Embankment and Charing Cross is just as close since I once found a spot where you actually could just about see both stations
Try do Charing Cross To embankment
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Timewise I feel that to be shorter than Covent Garden Leicester Square. Waterloo-Southwark is a quick one as well.
Charing cross to embankment on a skateboard is about 10 seconds but also a death wish going down that hill😂😂
If we're talking exterior of station to exterior of station, I'd say C Cross to Embankment is quicker than L Square to C Garden.
Haha a 4 minute wait on the picadilly is so short. I either switch to the picadilly or walk from Holborn to covent garden for work and I only take the picadilly when it's raining outside or really late. Way faster to walk when you just miss a train and the next is in 6 ☹️
its enjoyable that you did an entire video to prove something i've known my whole life. it's always been quicker to get to covent garden from Leicester square station. especially in the past when the lifts at covent garden seemed to always be broken
I often wondered about this as I had to use the Northern Line and I worked in Covent Garden. Now I know! The lift at Covent Garden could take a wait too in my day. Very creeky! Looks as if it has improved.
In Glen Rock NJ, there are two stations that are a two minute drive from each other on the same street yet they're on two separate lines. It's cheaper to walk the distance than take a train down to a junction an hour away just to take another train back to where you started in the NJ case (although you technically can't buy tickets between the two). In your case, I'd rather walk. Good exercise. The quickest journey (excluding the wait for the train) is either between Times Square and Penn Station or Times Square and Bryant Park. Both are two minutes
Euston to Euston Square, Warren Street to Great Portland Street and most famously Queensway to Bayswater are all examples of this in London.
Catford and Catford Bridge
Well if you are on the Central line and want to get to somewhere in Covent Garden then you might as well get out at TCR or Holborn and walk, there won't be much in it.
The real question though - is the 75% chance of being slower worth it if it's pissing rain outside? 🤔
Unfortunately that is the difference between living in a rural area and a urban area. In a rural area no one would care less over 5 minutes, the world can wait for you. That should be the same in a urban area, but sadly isn't...
Trip 2 teaches us that if Geoff has to wait for a long time for a train he vents his frustration as an angry German
Surprised that not many people got that joke. Actually, people are kinda dumb soooooo scratch that.
The distance between Leicester Sq. and Covent Garden is about the length of a train. In Paris many train stations can be closer than you find in London but for different lines.
Maybe they should just extend the Leicester Square passageways over to the Covent Garden exits lmao. About as long as the Waterloo travelator, certainly shorter than the Bank/Monument interchange, and would speed up through traffic on the Piccadilly by a minute or so
when we came back to the UK in June, we used the steps at Covent Garden....i lost count of the steps in total, as i wanted to confirm the number, but having made it to the top, we were not going to do it again
It would be a way longer to walk (and overground not underground) but you can see Rotherhithe Station from the platform at Canada Water
I found during my second visit to London that it was often faster to walk than take the tube. Just depended on your final destination. I had a better sense of the layout of London on my second visit and was a pro by my third visit. First time there I was a real novice and relied on the tube for everything. Greetings from the United States.
I just give the thumbs up on your vids as soon as I click on them. I always know they're going to be awesome 😁
I was in London once when it rained, and caught the tube between these stations. Not sure how relevant that is.
Did that journey this week. Took the kids on the Tube for the first time and changed at Leicester Sq to go to Covent Garden. Knew it would take longer but the kids wanted to stay on the trains.
Leicester Square to covent garden might be the fastest journey on the tube, but surely Charing cross to embankment is a much shorter distance walking? The station entrances are basically next to each other!
Embankment tube station is next to Charing Cross main line station, but the closest exit to Charing Cross tube station is on Strand.
You're never really have to wait for the underground!
8:27 "nine! nine! nine!" was that because there were police right outside the station 😂😂
I've watched too many of your videos when I hear the announcement saying "equivalent to a 15 storey building" and laugh at it 😂
Love the 15 storey building Easter egg!😂😂😂
Where can I get a map like that? I have really poor eyesight and Google Maps is basically unusable now because none of the roads have these outlines and the text is tiny. I love the map you used at 0:55
That map can be found at: carto.metro.free.fr/cartes/metro-tram-london/index.php?gpslat=51.505951&gpslon=-0.101642&zoom=2
carto.metro.free.fr/metro-london/
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The clock in the corner and picture in picture made me feel I was watching a low-octane 24 revival!
I used to have to travel through London on my way from the North to the South, and always used to leave the station at Kings Cross and walk to Euston, just to break up the journey. I've no idea if it was quicker or not :-)
What is the worst pair of tube stations to travel between by train vs walking? I think Wood Lane and White City would be a contender..
if you include overground, camden town and camden road. euston square and warren street perhaps. or paddington (bakerloo) to paddington (circle) .. maybe there is a whole section of "worst ways to get to the station you are already in"
My view is Park Royal to Hanger Lane. There was a plan to build an interchange station there but it seems to have died when Metronet PPP committed suicide.
Hammersmith to Hammersmith is a long way by train as well.
Kenton to Northwick Park
Canada water to rotherhithe, on the overground is really short aswell. On the platform at canada water you can actually see rotherhithes station
I loved this one and you two look like such a happy couple.
Good experiment! Would be interesting to see how the different factors would work during rush hour 🤔
Enjoyed the declaration of “nine nine nine” with the blues and two’s behind Geoff.. heheh
It never ceases to amaze me how close stations are in London and how frequent the services are compared to other parts of the UK. And yet people still complain about the service there if they can't get a train within a few short minutes. Many places, if you miss the bus (as that is all the public transport there is), you have to wait at least several hours for the next one, and sometimes DAYS.
Still wouldn't want to live there thought thank you very much.
Daniel Saint Around 5.5 million passenger journeys each day, about equivalent to the population of Scotland- people who complain often don't appreciate the scale of the operation.
@@ianmoseley9910 I'm not saying that London shouldn't have such an operation. It would just be nice if some other parts of the country had even a fraction of the availability of transport options that Londoners enjoy and mostly take for granted.
The 'we shouldn't use private cars' argument is simple cloud cuckoo land for many of us who live in rural and semi-rural parts of the country where there is no realistic option.
When I worked in the nearest city to me (8 miles away) I would have had to leave home by about 6.30am to arrive at work for 9am, and that would include a 1.75 mile (hilly) walk.
To get public transport to the same city from where my mother lives (just 4-5 miles from the City), I'd have to leave at 3pm the afternoon before, and wouldn't get home until about 11am the next morning, so leaving home before I finish work the next day!
Well I learnt something. I thought that not only was it a shorter distance between Charing Cross and Embankment than Leicester Square and Covent Garden, but also shorter between Northfields and South Ealing.
I think the distances between platform end to platform start and from Station Exit to Station Entrance are not the same for any given pairings of stations on the same line in the same direction
Fantastic video Geoff everything u go is great keep it coming
I love your channel and all the videos of trains
I was too busy humming the theme to 'Fame'! Lol!
Trains! I wanna ride them forever
Get off at each station and count...
Stairs!
Document each of my journeys...
You get it. Anyway, the Picadilly was the main train I used, from Heathrow all the up near Wood Green (if I remember correctly) because the airb&b was right nearby. In fact, I noticed I was in the middle of another station and near 3 Sisters.
Thanks to this experiment, I hope people visiting will see that some of these stops are mere walking distances from each other, and, if it is a nice day and you have time and want to sightsee or something...just walk. Unless you have a distance to go, a lot of things to carry or something of that nature, why not take the tube.
shortest distance nearest to nearest exit is definitely mansion house and cannon st. i actually paced both today. 310 steps between cannon st / mansion house and 370 for leicester sq / covent gdn. and then i got home and realised that bank now has an entrance on cannon st. which will be even closer than that albeit not on a connected route. the new 2012 entrance to cannon st looks to be in same place as the old one just wider. so i dunno why this has gone unnoticed
Covent Garden to Leicester Square. I've done this on foot at least twice, and they are quite close. Always better to walk than waste £2.40 just for taking Piccadilly Line 👍
It doesn't cost £2.40 if you're already on the Tube.
There was a bloke literally saying “This station has 193 steps which is equivalent to a 15 story building”
Man getting down pat what door to be at for the best entrance and exit of the train is an essential skill. Unfortunately on my journey home I can never be certain. I live at the end of the Line and one platform goes half the train length further past the exit of the station then the other train. So if the train will arrive at platform two then the best place to exit would be the second last carriage but if it goes to the first platform then the carriage closest to the driver is the one you want to be on. My train line in Victoria, Australia is actually a nightmare. I could drone on and on about how insane it is that they shut down two thirds of the line or even the whole line for a month at a time several times in the year to do works which have yet to improve any service, after five years on the expansion project.
Nice. Keep doing tube videos!
in the days of capital cards i would always do the one-stop hop
Having "really windy" flashbacks
"three trains" *proceeds to hold up the roman numeral for four*
I always walk from Marylebone to Baker Street unless I'm getting the Bakerloo Line or going South of the Jubilee Line.
"its really windy..." and just like that, back on top of snaefell on the isle of man...
Please do more of these. Even races across the tube
You should do the race between bigger distance such as Ruislip to Liverpool St (Met vs Central) or Hammersmith to Kings Cross (H&C vs Piccadilly)
Keep an eye out on the 73 stock interiors as I saw one that looked like it had a refit inside.
Your intros are always so cool
Canary Wharf to Westferry on the DLR is very short also...
At both stations I realy miss one thin each.
At Leicester Square station on the northern line branch coming from the north I miss the old announcement: "THIS is Leicester Squaaaaare. Change here for the Picadilly Liiine. Next station is Tottenham Court Road!"
And arround Covent Garden station I definitely miss the fudges shop, that has been there and now seems to just have disappeared ...
the shortest train journey on the
london underground - from leicester
Square to covent garden/covent
garden to leicester Square!
Covent garden to Leicester Square takes 44 seconds to move then stop, Southwark to Waterloo takes 43 seconds to move then stop
If you're running that late that it matters then it doesn't matter, you're late. When you add the likely hood of rain or cold on top you're better off under ground.
That sounds like the Hanover Main Station and the Kröpcke.
I basically never use the metro there (except it's raining).
You either walk 5-7 Minutes or you'll be on your way for 5-7 Minutes if you're lucky and catch every metro without wait. Sure, it's more comfortable but it's not practical, in my opinion :D
You are so right loool...I never realised it but the two stations are very pretty close, just two streets away actually....great vid thanks
You guys should do South Ealing to Northfields, that also has a short distance between each other.
You don't need a tube train for that one, just a pole vault...
I never knew that the tube is so slow because you need to wait for it
"9 minutes. Nein nein nein." - Geoff
Do Northfields - South Ealing as you won't have to deal with crowds, and they are very close
Northfields to Boston Manor would be better - the trains travel fairly slowly between these two
Good video and I watch all of your videos Geoff
This reminds me of the distance between monument and Haymarket metro station in Newcastle, if the train breaks down at Haymarket no one in their right mind would wait around instead of walking to monument lol
Also a 4 minute wait for a train being long I wish
1:18 - 1:20 Nice tone of voice.
Aldgate to Aldgate East is also very close together but they don’t have a direct train between them
Four tests with Geoff walking two of them. Only fair ...
Please do the same Finsbury park to Manor House. That's my local station and often wondered if quicker to change Victoria line to Piccadilly line for one stop or walk.
Actually loved this! Thanks for the video guys 🙂 x
Can’t be fair to walk on the escalator as that is giving a mechanical speed advantage.
Congrats on making trending!
Depends whether its actually Covent Garden Station itself you want to get to, or elsewhere in the area, as that would then result in a walk from Covent Garden Station
Also Charing Cross to Embankment is 31 seconds when heading south. I timed it yesterday
Alternative Stations which are sometimes easier to exit and get back to the normal station depending where you want to end up. Russell Square rather than Kings Cross Picadilly or Holborn, it tends to have less passengers. Chancery Lane rather than Holborn- more straightforward escalaters to ground level when they are both working ! - Goodge Street rather than Tottenham Court Road if you want the north end of TCR. If on the Bakerloo I find Picadilly Circus easier to use than Oxford Circus.
If you want the north end of TCR, Warren Street is better. Goodge Street for the middle, Tottenham Court Road for the southern end.
I just realised that Covent Garden is made up of 15 floors! Silly me not to mention that!
Just out of interest what about Mansion House to Cannon Street or Cannon Street to Monument, both are shorter walks and must be similar tube journey lengths
Geoff has such an expressive face, great for this challenge! Almost Mr Bean-esque 😂
Maybe try doing this for the closest 2 above ground stations. It would be interesting to see this idea without having the long time getting down to the platform.
They are over on the Central Line, yes some are quicker. As probably is Snaresbrook to Wansted.
cannon street to mansion house is 2 seconds by train. also, embankment and charing cross are the closest (1 minute walk).
I suspect some people would accidentally take the tube between Leicester Sq and Covent Garden not knowing the roads and distance involved
This is always an interning dilemma.
I always think it is better to have your fate in your own hands. eg walk and not rely on waiting for the tube. By walking you can pretty much know how long it will take.
Also I personally prefer to keep moving rather than standing around waiting.
I think as a rule if you are changing and only going one stop you are better off getting out at the station (where you are making the change) rather than make a change and go one stop. There are exceptions to this like Finburya Park - changing from Victoria to Piccadilly where you walk across the platform to change.
One thing when changing or exiting is obviously positioning yourself in the correct carriage to the exit or interchange tunnel you need. Walking the length of a platform can take a minute - especially in the rush hour.
The dilemma I had a couple of weeks ago when I was going from Kings X to Marylebone station. Was I better to get out at Baker Street and walk or change to the Bakerloo?
Queensway to Bayswater must be a pretty short walk. They're on the same street, if I remember rightly.
English Cider Lover not on the same line