There was ALOT of ableism in the 80s when i was a teen, i should know i was a victim of it, in a way i still am. In fact it’s even crept in the churches. i experienced this in the 90s. For example about marriage, they use that verse in Genesis where is say a man shall leave his father and mother to be joined with his wife. in other words a man has to be able to hold down a job, live independently away from his parents in order to be suitable for marriage. And of course with my disability i couldn’t live independently on my own.. but the thing that got me, they will NOT admit that they actually believe that a man can not be of any “special needs” if he should marry. they will not admit that they believe there are certain disabilities where a man should stay single. They will give you some kind of double-talk and run words around you. The moment i tell them my disability and my desire for marriage they will automatically tell me how wonderful singlehood and celibacy is because i can devote all my time to the Lord. They just refuse to come out and admit they believe that a man with special needs” should never marry. Looking back on those years really pisses me off.😖
Thank you, Elmo. I also identify as neurodivergent and dealing with my own internalized ableism. I'd like to hear what parts of this you feel are ableist so I can work on those. Thank you again for your feedback!
As someone with CP, My disease is not an extension of me. Therefore it should not be connected to my identity. Abled-bodied people are the one who attach our disease to our identity. A disease is a burden not an extension of identity. Same as if you were to have a cold, the cold would have nothing do with your identity.
@@elmo4032 This is something that I've noticed that the disability community really seems to disagree upon (and which is reflected in the use of person-first or identity-first language). For example, the Deaf community (capital D) embraces this particular disability as a factor of human diversity and many Deaf people use identity-first language as a refection of that. Being Deaf is who they are and Deaf culture is where they feel at home. On the other hand, you describe yourself as "someone with CP," indicating that you prefer person-fist language. Your way of describing yourself is as a person first and for you, disability is not the focus of how you choose to identify. That works for you and I genuinely respect that - it's why I offer both person-first and identity-first options in the video. I personally believe that if we truly wish to dismantle ableism, we need to give all people the same space to describe their unique intersectionality as they see fit. Once again, I am grateful to you for adding your voice to this conversation. When we have these conversations, it can help others to see that people with disabilities are not a monolith - we are individual people, each with our own identities and values.
@@socialworktechwriter I’m just glad ableism is finally being recognized as it is so common in our society. The more we talk about it, the more we can call it out.
In my opinion, as an abled bisexual asian Male, common words considered ableist slurs like "dumb" "idiot" shouldn't be considered so as they are not used to denounce disabled people specifically, or at least not anymore. They have more in common with words such as "gay" and "abnormal" than slurs like "chink", "red skin" and the N-word. I can understand the R-word being a slur but these? Why let words hurt you? They are just that, words. I do try my best to understand and am willing to change my mind if someone can do so.
Actually, those are situation-specific. See, dumb and idiot are ofc just regular insults, but are ableist if used to describe or insult a disability or the traits of that disability. For example, if a dyslexic person was having trouble reading, and someone called them an idiot, that would be ableist. If someone was being a Karen about having to wear a mask to enter a store, that's indeed dumb. Some words like spaz, slow, the r-slur, etc aren't situational, and always ableist, as they are describing someone as disabled or having disabled traits in a derogatory way. :)
There was ALOT of ableism in the 80s when i was a teen, i should know i was a victim of it, in a way i still am. In fact it’s even crept in the churches. i experienced this in the 90s. For example about marriage, they use that verse in Genesis where is say a man shall leave his father and mother to be joined with his wife. in other words a man has to be able to hold down a job, live independently away from his parents in order to be suitable for marriage. And of course with my disability i couldn’t live independently on my own.. but the thing that got me, they will NOT admit that they actually believe that a man can not be of any “special needs” if he should marry. they will not admit that they believe there are certain disabilities where a man should stay single. They will give you some kind of double-talk and run words around you. The moment i tell them my disability and my desire for marriage they will automatically tell me how wonderful singlehood and celibacy is because i can devote all my time to the Lord. They just refuse to come out and admit they believe that a man with special needs” should never marry. Looking back on those years really pisses me off.😖
Disability is most definitely not desired BUT it's not a bad word!! Good video.
As a non-neurotypical, this video is ableist
Thank you, Elmo. I also identify as neurodivergent and dealing with my own internalized ableism. I'd like to hear what parts of this you feel are ableist so I can work on those. Thank you again for your feedback!
As someone with CP, My disease is not an extension of me. Therefore it should not be connected to my identity. Abled-bodied people are the one who attach our disease to our identity. A disease is a burden not an extension of identity. Same as if you were to have a cold, the cold would have nothing do with your identity.
@@elmo4032 This is something that I've noticed that the disability community really seems to disagree upon (and which is reflected in the use of person-first or identity-first language). For example, the Deaf community (capital D) embraces this particular disability as a factor of human diversity and many Deaf people use identity-first language as a refection of that. Being Deaf is who they are and Deaf culture is where they feel at home. On the other hand, you describe yourself as "someone with CP," indicating that you prefer person-fist language. Your way of describing yourself is as a person first and for you, disability is not the focus of how you choose to identify. That works for you and I genuinely respect that - it's why I offer both person-first and identity-first options in the video. I personally believe that if we truly wish to dismantle ableism, we need to give all people the same space to describe their unique intersectionality as they see fit. Once again, I am grateful to you for adding your voice to this conversation. When we have these conversations, it can help others to see that people with disabilities are not a monolith - we are individual people, each with our own identities and values.
@@socialworktechwriter I’m just glad ableism is finally being recognized as it is so common in our society. The more we talk about it, the more we can call it out.
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Great video!
I'm sorry, is disability a desirable state?
This was very enlightening.
No, it was not. It was basically a pathetic attempt at enforced, PC speech. :)
You spelled "euphemism" incorrectly.
Spellism
In my opinion, as an abled bisexual asian Male, common words considered ableist slurs like "dumb" "idiot" shouldn't be considered so as they are not used to denounce disabled people specifically, or at least not anymore. They have more in common with words such as "gay" and "abnormal" than slurs like "chink", "red skin" and the N-word. I can understand the R-word being a slur but these? Why let words hurt you? They are just that, words. I do try my best to understand and am willing to change my mind if someone can do so.
Actually, those are situation-specific. See, dumb and idiot are ofc just regular insults, but are ableist if used to describe or insult a disability or the traits of that disability. For example, if a dyslexic person was having trouble reading, and someone called them an idiot, that would be ableist. If someone was being a Karen about having to wear a mask to enter a store, that's indeed dumb. Some words like spaz, slow, the r-slur, etc aren't situational, and always ableist, as they are describing someone as disabled or having disabled traits in a derogatory way. :)
I hate it
Y’all quit spazzin
Ha ha! Carry on your good work squire :)