@@theRawest821 Nah that song is about prostitutuion and slavery. "Shorty say what you like, just to back it up I'll let you hold my ice. Now I say you "owe" me something!" He telling woman she obligated to give up pussy.
@@jonjones7137nah he telling the truth about that I used to be in the bridge and lefrak a lot around 97-2000 they started saying he sold out wit the firm shit
@PLawton2900 stop acting like this song is the only type of record nas makes... u know it's a lil club track that he actually went into the studio to make. He don't make those often. Hell he made that in 99..
😂😂😂lol and he followed up that line with "Pay me back when you shake it like that girl" foh U selected the one passable "conscious" bar. Went from Black Girl Lost to this was always gonna be a problem
@@mjdagoat7916 nah he touches on everything.....the only rapper in history to be able to do that....he can give you culture, history, women, street etc....in 2 or 3 bars and it still sounds ill....he could be talking to his woman when he say shake it like that girl....
@@Dabridge4009 he could be talking to his own girl like shake it like you owe me rent?😂 So he's a pimp ?! 😂😂😂Lol. Bro the song had nothing to do with monogamy Dude I love Nas, have ALL his albums but this wasn't it. The song is great but in the context of what Nore is talking about there's some merit because of what his image he portrayed up until that point.
Nore isn’t lying tho! When Nas started making more “commercial” songs, working with Puff, Timbo, Trackmasters, etc., people grumbled that he sold out. It’s easy to look back with 25 years of hindsight and see how brilliant it was to have a line like “Pay me back like 40 acres to Blacks” in a massive club song, but back then, some folks couldn’t see it.
I concur, "Keeping it Real" was the ethos back then. Anything made for intentional radio play, club banger, MTV BET rotation was considered selling out. Selling street music to the masses was a work in progress. Case n point.
What range? Its just typical nas but over a pop beat and chorus. Real range would be different topics, or variance in vocal abilities. Some singing or something.
@@m.m4982 the topic is different. Nas doesn't typically do club records, he's known for conscious records, and gangster stuff. He probably has three Pop or club records in his entire catalog 💯💯
@itsrelativ3967 I noticed that too I remember him performing it live on some show he was just going through the motions like he just wanted to get it over with
It was a pop record & he was hitting without pop records so when he did this it kind of looked a certain way. Still followed it up with major classic albums.
If there's a guy who didn't sell out in rap, that was Nas. Coming from QB, clawing to the top in the 90's while Pac and Biggie were going at it, came into the 2000's a star, bodied Jay Z who's arguably the most entrepeneurial rapper ever, helped some young bucks like J Cole be noticed and never EVER stepped down his game. Just released an album yesterday and he doesn't even sound outdated like most of the old heads. Still on top of the game. Nas is just an everlasting prodigy
3dom or jail clips inserted a babies been born same time a man is murdered the beginning and end, as far as rap go it’s only natural I explain, my Plato & also what defines my name
Nas was judged the harshest in hip hop history just because of how pure his art was. The people forgot he was an ARTIST though, who wanted to express his art in many different ways. Luckily history will be in his favor when the people realize he was still keeping it pure and true to the culture and his people, even on popular songs like You “Owe Me” and “If I Ruled The World”. Even “Black Girl Lost” gave a voice to young women in the hood who were misguided. Nas was brave enough to take it there, even if it sacrificed temporary success.
You know what's funny... Pac did the samething and didn't get the hate that Nas got. Pac came out with "I get around" after all the socially conscious records that we loved him for.
Yea nobody liked u owe me in 99. Sounded very commercial but now that we are older we tend to go back to nastrudamus and see the value in it. People was brainwashed back then even tho I fw the song in ‘00 and now it’s still like j Cole said one of his commercial hits but definitely seemed off.
@@justarandomniggafrm206 / Hate on what, the truth...🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽 Has the Prince of the hood that spoke for the hood ever given a free concert in the hood for those that couldn't afford his tour shows...🤔🤔🤔 Is he invited to speak @ any nation of Islam conventions...🤔🤔🤔 Do he mingle with poverty, maybe @ parties or non celebrity clubs...🤔🤔🤔 Has he stood up to any incorporated gangs for their wickedness towards us hood people...🤔🤔🤔 Some prince, yea, I'm just a hater that always gotta be...👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Because the fans werent the ones saying it. His hating ass peers and the media were mad he could also show mainstream appeal. That song was a banger in clubs and he still had something to say. It showed he was versatile. They wanted him to stay in his lane. And he said nah You owe me back like forty acres to blacks 😂
Thing is Beyoncé was all comfortable beside Nas in the video and those times Nas was blazing and Destiny’s Child was regular b*tches-thing is If Nas had Hit he wouldn’t have said a thang - no one would ever know. Not GayZ tho - he would tell the World in a beef.
Nah I remember people looking at Nastradamus a bit weird. I was one of them. You came from “Nas is like” to this? I did like “come get me” but it definitely was one of his weaker releases. This is from a NYC native who was about 16-17 when it dropped.
I don't think I Am was a response to that. IIRC the album was meant to be a double album "I Am Nastradamus" then they got split in to 2 albums after some songs got leaked. Nastradamus was released the same year
I literally just wrote up there that the Hate Me Now video was what really had MF’s like we lost Nas for good!! But shiiiit, that shit was fkn fiiiiire!!!!
Only NYers had this take. That 98/99 run Nas had was records we banged in the South. Hate Me Now and It's Mine were all bangers down here. I had no clue about this sentiment till much later. But like most things Hip Hop, NYers inflated ego think what they say is gospel. Those backpack geeks wanted Nas in a box.
@herbertdowdy1829 I had 0 clue about why people hated The Firm or why critics said Nas went commercial with If I ruled the world. I only learned about that like 12 years ago. I think that's why Eastcoasters gassed up Jay's Take Over Diss, bc it went over a ton of people's heads outside NY. The hot line hot song bar, I didn't know what he was talking about. I came to the conclusion later Those backpackers wanted Nas to be an MF Doom lane forever.
@@NoNo-ng9slFacts on Facts on Facts 💯 this is exactly what happened. When the artist evolve from the back pack boom bap beats . They couldn’t keep up and we’re salty . Still salty in 2023 and beyond
This is the reason why I say Nas is held to a different standard then everyone. Because Jayz and everyone can do songs like this without any criticism. Nas can’t have fun or experiment. This song was dope and still is. The Goat
Jay was definitely critized for putting out stuff like this. Change Clothes, Dirt Off Your Shoulders, hell the whole Black Album was critized for biting from The Beatles. Jay-Z is a well known Shark Biter. That claim has remained through most of his career.
No they didn't. Y'all newbies must have forgot why Jay was so comfortable dissing him. Nas had one foot out the door and stillmatic would have been his last album if he didn't deliver.
Around 2000 rumors were circulating that The Great One had lost his edge, his wit, his flavor and fire. People was on that Space Jam Monster took his talent shit. I remember it too, at just 10. Def Jam 2000 was dominating. Stillmatic shut everybody tf up. Nigga pulled a rabbit out the ass No Problem 😂
I can see it & not at the same time, cause that was Nas first Pop / Club song but he still was spitting heat, kept his style & was conscious at the same thing for a pop / radio hit “ you owe me back / like 40 acres to blacks … “ as the hook , not even getting to the verse ,
The fact that the clubs still play “oochie walley”, and “u owe me” 20 plus years later is proof that the backpackers were WRONG. They put Nas and other artists in a box for no reason other than not wanting to see growth or versatility.
Yup the backpackers were wrong‼️ But I believe they was keeping Nas in that box because they didn't wanna loose him to system, what they didn't understand was you can't mould your own saviour you take'em as they come and keep faith 🙌🏽
Yeah it WAS a lil narrative around that time (based on how Nas origins was considered for the underground/streets)...but it was a weak narrative...the song was 🔥🔥🔥🔥.... Nas has received hate in the media almost his whole career 🤦🏽♂️
Maybe ppl in the comments not old enough or dont remember but Nore is right. Fans and critics came at Nas after that record and Oochi Walley saying he went pop
Funny thing is both records got a lot of play in the clubs. I think Nas wanted to switch his style up a little and brag and shine like his peers were doing.
Totally agree. The record ended up maybe growing on some people. But at the time when we first heard it initially it was certainly a different topic from the Nas we knew. At the time we(15-20yr olds) wanted artist to just talk about street life and struggles lol.
To put things in context THAT WAS selling out coming straight out the golden era. The 90's was so thorough if you made a song for women to dance to you was seen as not rapping from your heart (selling out) or pandering to stay relevant..something almost every artist does today.
@@d2dar459 not really I just think we've gotten too conformist today. Before black women and stripping became a synonymous thing making songs for women outside of a genuine love song like Method Man "All I Need" was all a man had to say to a woman in a song. But rappers realized they make more catering to women so rappers don't really even speak honestly to women anymore in songs its all pandering to sell a record. That's fake af and that's why the game being fake af is normal now.
How is that selling out?? One thing i respect about Nas is he makes all kinds of music, just because you put him in a box, Nore, doesn't mean he sold out.
you should also respect yourself a little more so you dont make yourself look crazy for not listening to comprehend......Nore literally said, "Not me!", as in Nore never said Nas sold out, he heard ppl saying that. Listen to comprehend, NOT respond 😒
Nore wrong anywwy,people were saying Nas sold out before that song😅. Alot of fans of Illmatic were saying he sold out by the second album. He wasnt supposed to be doing the flossy rap and materialism,and pop records like everybody else. You would have to understand who his audience was after Illmatic dropped to get it. You Owe Me was when people started washing they hands of him,and writing him off. Partially this song,but mostly because his album quality was declining. While there were alot of new cats on the rise
@@jonathanstorie6370exactly,people are looking at it in hindsight. Plus alot of people werent on to Nas when Illmatic dropped. So Hate Me Now was loved and seen as normal. But for alot of his original fanbase,that song was definitely seen as THEE sellout move. He was already getting backlash by It Was Written. Just because it wasnt Illmatic part 2 lol
No it's called trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator trying to get that jiggy era money which for Nas was like devolving coming from the lane of semi-conscious street rap.
@@driskolestateshow absolutely isnt. In any way. Objectively wrong. You can say a song us selling out or pop, or radio and still acknowledge the track is still fire.
If you listen to the lyrics in thst song he definitely wasn't selling out. "Owe me back like you owe your tax/pay me back like 40 acres to blacks/pay me back, when you shake it like that". Nas was talking that sh*t! 😂
He's not tripping, that's literally what the a lot of people were saying back then, especially in the streets. They looked at it as ohhh no he made a pop record with Hate Me Now and dressing like Puffy. Nas had addressed this and is even in his documentary.
We were saying Nas sold out since "If I Ruled the World" when he had Lauryn Hill on the hook. Illmatic was a very underground sounding album, even though it was on a major label. It Was Written was more commercial sounding. Cats were leaping off the ledge then. Songs like "You Owe Me," "Oochie Wally," and "Hate Me Now" just confirmed it.
@@johanmassy5290 Nope, plenty of his Day Ones were saying that. Most of Nas' fans didn't come on board until It Was Written....and then a third wave hopped on during Stillmatic. .A lot of his Day Ones have been wanting him to recreate Illmatic throughout his entire career. He's mentioned it often in song and in interviews.
This is how black people do each other and they try act like they all for one but they always throw each other under the bus...and the fans didn't care the rappers pushed that cause he did a record that wasn't sounding like a New York record
Entire comments section riding for Nas and refuting this. Which tells me NORE is either capping......or.....that's how HE feels/felt, and is trying to use "everyone else" as his scapegoat.
Nas said “Pay me back like 40 acres to blacks” and mf said he sold out 😂😂 my son was conscious on his club tracks 🔥💪🏽😂🤯
you forget about got those shakles on my feet? How is that conscious?
@@fidesign5924its rap.. metaphor.. he didnt mean it literally smh
@@theRawest821 Nah that song is about prostitutuion and slavery. "Shorty say what you like, just to back it up I'll let you hold my ice. Now I say you "owe" me something!" He telling woman she obligated to give up pussy.
I thought this back when I heard it 😂😂😂
Damn you right
NaS, Tim and Ginuwine kilt that shit. 20+ years later and it still bangs
Classic😎
Tim and Pharrell really went on a run
@@christopherhaynes8101 (*Neptunes but) FACTS!!!
Nahhh. Beat sucked. It’s not like Tim to produce such a lazy sample like that either.
Guarantee nobody from their camps ever called them a sellout, stop listening to drunk chumps, its bad for you @@christopherhaynes8101
That was a damn hit!!!😂😂😂 Ginuwine was singing his mf ass off
😆
Yes ‼️‼️‼️😅💯
It wasnt a hit. It flopped at 59 on the chart
@mr.enrike2564 To you it wasn't... It was to me
JaiAnt-bd7xv It was a hit TO ME
Nas ripped that shit! And it was HEAVY in all the clubs.
lol facts ! If that’s selling out then fuck it 😂
I've literally heard no one say he sold out
@@jonjones7137NORE is trolling for views 😂
@@TheYellowBrickRoadTV he's gotta be. I'm a hip hop head....never have I thought nor heard that silly crap. Dude desperate for clout
@@jonjones7137nah he telling the truth about that I used to be in the bridge and lefrak a lot around 97-2000 they started saying he sold out wit the firm shit
I love that song till this day. Nas made a timeless music.
That joint was a BANGER.
Still slaps in the older spots
Faaaacts. Timbo SMOKED that beat.
That shit sounded like a Vanity ^ 80's pop remix. Nice beat, but is that what makes a rap song, a banger?
@PLawton2900 stop acting like this song is the only type of record nas makes... u know it's a lil club track that he actually went into the studio to make. He don't make those often. Hell he made that in 99..
@@Mic-100 I’m not acting like shit. I’m speaking on THIS record, why would I mention others?
He said "owe me back like 40 acres to blacks!!" What?!! sold what?!! foh!!
People don’t be listening man
😂😂😂lol and he followed up that line with "Pay me back when you shake it like that girl" foh
U selected the one passable "conscious" bar. Went from Black Girl Lost to this was always gonna be a problem
@@mjdagoat7916 nah he touches on everything.....the only rapper in history to be able to do that....he can give you culture, history, women, street etc....in 2 or 3 bars and it still sounds ill....he could be talking to his woman when he say shake it like that girl....
@@Dabridge4009 he could be talking to his own girl like shake it like you owe me rent?😂 So he's a pimp ?! 😂😂😂Lol. Bro the song had nothing to do with monogamy
Dude I love Nas, have ALL his albums but this wasn't it. The song is great but in the context of what Nore is talking about there's some merit because of what his image he portrayed up until that point.
@@mjdagoat7916 you thinking too deep....I'm not no pimp I'm married....I play with my wife like that....
The crazy part is, even with this "selling out" song, he was STILL dropping gems!!!
Facts
explain to me how we sold out just don't understand
@@shawnc7808he didn’t. That’s just Nore drunk ass
@@shawnc7808 by doing commercial Hip-Hop like Puff Daddy
💪💪💯
Nore isn’t lying tho! When Nas started making more “commercial” songs, working with Puff, Timbo, Trackmasters, etc., people grumbled that he sold out. It’s easy to look back with 25 years of hindsight and see how brilliant it was to have a line like “Pay me back like 40 acres to Blacks” in a massive club song, but back then, some folks couldn’t see it.
Thats cuz most plp have can see only but 5 steps ahead of themselves.
I concur, "Keeping it Real" was the ethos back then. Anything made for intentional radio play, club banger, MTV BET rotation was considered selling out. Selling street music to the masses was a work in progress. Case n point.
I remember. You are right. People were saying that. Now we look at it with hindsight and see how clever the record was
Facts.
What was clever about it?@@TheDumontShow
Nas was showing RANGE with that record.
Yes he needed to have more record to get people moving to have something for the ladies
But he said owe me back like 40 acres to Blacks 😢 how is that selling out?
@@AviatonXexactly!!
What range? Its just typical nas but over a pop beat and chorus. Real range would be different topics, or variance in vocal abilities. Some singing or something.
@@m.m4982 the topic is different. Nas doesn't typically do club records, he's known for conscious records, and gangster stuff. He probably has three Pop or club records in his entire catalog 💯💯
"You Owe Me" gets played to this very day!!
on mute is the best part
@@be4unvme you probably only listen to songs on phones no earbuds eirher
They said he sold out, not flopped.
he became some bullshit once he dropped nastradamus the entire album was trash
@@lucas17389 exactly
How could you not like dat song… that shit went hard
Nas didn't even sound like he wanted to do the song. Ginuwine had more fun making that record if you ask me.
My sisters loved that song…they used to kiss the screen when that video came on!
@itsrelativ3967 I noticed that too I remember him performing it live on some show he was just going through the motions like he just wanted to get it over with
That record was fire 🔥
Love Nas, he’s a 🐐 to me, but NOO that song nor the beat was 🔥 stop it! The video was cool, but overall it was Bad! Like it or not
To you
No. It really wasn't. Quit kidding yourself lmao
That song was dope asf! I don’t think he sold out with that one. Now that ocheewally shit was 🗑️
I was just gonna say. I actually remember this song as a kid.
He showed another level of versatility and the hood said he sold out.
Sometimes stuff just goes over regular people's heads..he used a club song to again educate his people and listen to the hook...Nas timeless
Nothing more to be said💯
Yep
You summed it up perfectly , and let's not forget the video didnt help either
Man fr!!
It was a pop record & he was hitting without pop records so when he did this it kind of looked a certain way. Still followed it up with major classic albums.
He didn’t sale out, he started evolving
Or both
That’s the new word for selling out now? The length y’all go to defend these idols.
Broaden his sound
Nore be lying..for nothing smh
naw. He sold the house on that one, bro
If there's a guy who didn't sell out in rap, that was Nas. Coming from QB, clawing to the top in the 90's while Pac and Biggie were going at it, came into the 2000's a star, bodied Jay Z who's arguably the most entrepeneurial rapper ever, helped some young bucks like J Cole be noticed and never EVER stepped down his game.
Just released an album yesterday and he doesn't even sound outdated like most of the old heads. Still on top of the game. Nas is just an everlasting prodigy
MAN you betta talk ur talk!!!
3dom or jail clips inserted a babies been born same time a man is murdered the beginning and end, as far as rap go it’s only natural I explain, my Plato & also what defines my name
@@arilz_trillzino9317part of those lyrics are from “Nas is Like”
PAC N BIG BOTH WENT AT NAS AT THE SAME TIME ALL THAT WAS GON DOWN
@@arilz_trillzino9317damn, I forgot about that verse. Disgusting 😵💫😵💫
Nas was judged the harshest in hip hop history just because of how pure his art was. The people forgot he was an ARTIST though, who wanted to express his art in many different ways. Luckily history will be in his favor when the people realize he was still keeping it pure and true to the culture and his people, even on popular songs like You “Owe Me” and “If I Ruled The World”. Even “Black Girl Lost” gave a voice to young women in the hood who were misguided. Nas was brave enough to take it there, even if it sacrificed temporary success.
Nore is a traitor to hip-hop, to Queens for this garbage take I won't even sit through his little explanation. Niggasonapodcastbullshittin
You know what's funny... Pac did the samething and didn't get the hate that Nas got. Pac came out with "I get around" after all the socially conscious records that we loved him for.
Bullshit MC Hammer was the harshest judge in Hip Hop. In fact, Hip Hop owe that man a goddamn apology
@@DrBovelli82True, good point
Thank God Nas came back with stillmatic
"You Owe Me" was a banger tho
I was in highschool at that time. All the kids in my class would skip over that track if it came on the radio or if it was on a mixed cd.
Yea nobody liked u owe me in 99. Sounded very commercial but now that we are older we tend to go back to nastrudamus and see the value in it. People was brainwashed back then even tho I fw the song in ‘00 and now it’s still like j Cole said one of his commercial hits but definitely seemed off.
Mehhh
Random weirdos on the Sideline who are you? what have you ever given to the culture? drunk chumps is poisoning your mind @@YSuniverse856
@@YSuniverse856that song was banging in clubs
He was more than the prince of the hood. He spoke for the hood!
💯💯💯
No he didn't, he spoke for the masons in poverty...🙄🙄🙄
Word
@@henrybiggs3113there's always gotta be that 1 hater 😂
@@justarandomniggafrm206 / Hate on what, the truth...🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽 Has the Prince of the hood that spoke for the hood ever given a free concert in the hood for those that couldn't afford his tour shows...🤔🤔🤔 Is he invited to speak @ any nation of Islam conventions...🤔🤔🤔 Do he mingle with poverty, maybe @ parties or non celebrity clubs...🤔🤔🤔 Has he stood up to any incorporated gangs for their wickedness towards us hood people...🤔🤔🤔 Some prince, yea, I'm just a hater that always gotta be...👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
I aint never heard anyone say he sold out because of this record that jawn was fire
Because the fans werent the ones saying it. His hating ass peers and the media were mad he could also show mainstream appeal. That song was a banger in clubs and he still had something to say. It showed he was versatile. They wanted him to stay in his lane. And he said nah You owe me back like forty acres to blacks 😂
@@MsTrueTy yep they were trying to discourage his bag 🙄
@@MsTrueTyI love your comment. Smart Lady
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@@MsTrueTyfacts i always loved this song
You are right
I still listen to that joint...shits still tight...forreal forreal.
That track was fire & Esco had Beyonce all up in the video. Legendary!!
What video???
2024 VISION.,.PAY ATTENTION AND LOOK WITH YOUR EYES BEYONCE ALL IN THE VIDEO...WAKE UP MY SHEEPLE 🤔
@guru_basketball_kiero the song nore talking about she really in the video literally the whole destiny child 😂 💀
@@guru_basketball_kiero You Owe Me by NaS and Ginuwine
Thing is Beyoncé was all comfortable beside Nas in the video and those times Nas was blazing and Destiny’s Child was regular b*tches-thing is If Nas had Hit he wouldn’t have said a thang - no one would ever know. Not GayZ tho - he would tell the World in a beef.
1. The record was fire 2. I’m from nyc , I never remember anyone looking at nas like he sold out from that song.
Never heard it either🤣
But artists are different
Facts. Record was hot
I’m from NJ and that record was the shit back then
Me either but you know these guys gotta keep the content going at all costs
Nah I remember people looking at Nastradamus a bit weird. I was one of them. You came from “Nas is like” to this? I did like “come get me” but it definitely was one of his weaker releases.
This is from a NYC native who was about 16-17 when it dropped.
"Not me!!! I ain't say dat" Nore makes sure he keeps all his lines open😂
Yeah I caught that too lol
😂
Mofos will put words in your mouth
Cap they were saying he sold out when he dropped "IT WAS WRITTEN"
and the icing on the cake was naming his next album "I AM" 💯
I don't think I Am was a response to that.
IIRC the album was meant to be a double album "I Am Nastradamus" then they got split in to 2 albums after some songs got leaked. Nastradamus was released the same year
@@silewis9396 the critics felt that naming his album "I AM" was blasphemy that's what I meant by my statement
@@potstarx4125 Ah I see. I guess the Hate Me Now video didn't help all of this
@@silewis9396 💯
I literally just wrote up there that the Hate Me Now video was what really had MF’s like we lost Nas for good!! But shiiiit, that shit was fkn fiiiiire!!!!
That joint was poppin
This was a Banger🔥 Every hood bumped this. Never heard a mention of “sellout”😑
Only NYers had this take. That 98/99 run Nas had was records we banged in the South. Hate Me Now and It's Mine were all bangers down here. I had no clue about this sentiment till much later. But like most things Hip Hop, NYers inflated ego think what they say is gospel. Those backpack geeks wanted Nas in a box.
Exactly!! NOT ONE time did I ever hear that...
@NoNo-ng9sl I'm from Queens thiz the first time i'm hearing of this
@herbertdowdy1829 I had 0 clue about why people hated The Firm or why critics said Nas went commercial with If I ruled the world. I only learned about that like 12 years ago. I think that's why Eastcoasters gassed up Jay's Take Over Diss, bc it went over a ton of people's heads outside NY. The hot line hot song bar, I didn't know what he was talking about. I came to the conclusion later Those backpackers wanted Nas to be an MF Doom lane forever.
@@NoNo-ng9slFacts on Facts on Facts 💯 this is exactly what happened. When the artist evolve from the back pack boom bap beats . They couldn’t keep up and we’re salty . Still salty in 2023 and beyond
He killed one of Tim's throwaway beats.
No such thing as "throwaway" beats...as a producer
That beat was dope!
That record was fye!!! Loved it as a kid.
Nas told Nore to step his pen game up 😂😂
That he did say
And it never happened
@@DeeMaxum 😂😂
@@DeeMaxumLOL
@@DeeMaxumFacts.He stepped it down.
This is the reason why I say Nas is held to a different standard then everyone. Because Jayz and everyone can do songs like this without any criticism. Nas can’t have fun or experiment. This song was dope and still is. The Goat
Jay was definitely critized for putting out stuff like this. Change Clothes, Dirt Off Your Shoulders, hell the whole Black Album was critized for biting from The Beatles.
Jay-Z is a well known Shark Biter. That claim has remained through most of his career.
With all that brong said black album is fire@@willdiesel8431
@@willdiesel8431 You're lying, young + dumb, or misinformed. Jay didn't face any of that criticism...knock it off.
@@willdiesel8431cause he was a biter especially from other artists but he didn't get the same slack as Nas for making pop tracks
@@willdiesel8431 The Beatles??
Nore lying 😂 the hood loved that joint ❤
Precisely!!
No they didn't. Y'all newbies must have forgot why Jay was so comfortable dissing him. Nas had one foot out the door and stillmatic would have been his last album if he didn't deliver.
Around 2000 rumors were circulating that The Great One had lost his edge, his wit, his flavor and fire. People was on that Space Jam Monster took his talent shit. I remember it too, at just 10. Def Jam 2000 was dominating.
Stillmatic shut everybody tf up.
Nigga pulled a rabbit out the ass No Problem 😂
@@lastone032085Exactly I'm a huge nas fan. But stillmatic and ether reinvented his career
That was a banger nothing about that record speaks selling out that was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🐟
Sold out how?? That song was and still is 🔥
It just wasn't him. That's what people were trying to say.
I can see it & not at the same time, cause that was Nas first Pop / Club song but he still was spitting heat, kept his style & was conscious at the same thing for a pop / radio hit “ you owe me back / like 40 acres to blacks … “ as the hook , not even getting to the verse ,
@@EfffYouSeeKayAllstil not the point. Whether conscious or not.. pop wasn’t his thing simple!!
And yes song was 🔥 and still is
That song was a mf BANGER!!! To be honest that song would never make him a sellout, but I guess NY guys think different.
In retrospect, that was a banger
It was a banger THEN
@@patrickmiller1674 no it wasn't
Even a caucasian doesnt fall for norehaters baiting, so you know it's cap. You okay white boy 👍🏼 @@patrickmiller1674
Drunk champs corporate podcast ReVolt where norehater gets to flex on everyone who's outsold him for his puff daddy
MAN. It was a banger THEN!
Nas admitted it himself - 'Nails stab the hands of the Nazarene, I carried the cross to help you afford that plasma screen!'
Of Virginia Mary had a abortion. I still be carried in a stampeed horses, I had to bring back to n.y I carry the cross.
@@KrishnaSingh-ow1ieThose bars 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@silewis9396 lord mercy Jesus Christ he just nice, he just slice like a jinsu. I'm the last real nigger alive that's official.
@@silewis9396that’s blasphemy .
@@MHEntertainmentSPCOYeahh fr
The fact that the clubs still play “oochie walley”, and “u owe me” 20 plus years later is proof that the backpackers were WRONG. They put Nas and other artists in a box for no reason other than not wanting to see growth or versatility.
Yup the backpackers were wrong‼️ But I believe they was keeping Nas in that box because they didn't wanna loose him to system, what they didn't understand was you can't mould your own saviour you take'em as they come and keep faith 🙌🏽
That beat was hard asf too
Tell me about it 😂
Nore mad cuz nas told him to step his pen game up 😂😂😂
😂😂 facts
@@user-js2qo3kj8r get off nores nuts
That was a banger.
Classic record!! Still get the ladies moving
Crazy because it was a hit on the west coast….. the beat was crazy… and the flow was perfect!!!!
That joint was and is still hard
That cut with Genuine was lit tf
That track was fire asf we love that in Florida frfr one of the few tracks that can actually get love down here
I was in Florida (Miami) at the time when this came out and it rang off in ALL the clubs. Guaranteed dance floor action. 👍🏾👍🏾
Salute 🫡 @@JayFingers
That track was hot I never heard anyone say he sold out till this 😂😂😂 tell ‘em how you really feel Nore
Jealous ones envy, even fat joe is humble enough to admit he's wack compared to Gods of this rap shit
Without norehater selling out to Pharrell's nutsac for beats, nobody would even know who norehater is outside of lefrak queens
@@user-js2qo3kj8r people always got some bs to say 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah it WAS a lil narrative around that time (based on how Nas origins was considered for the underground/streets)...but it was a weak narrative...the song was 🔥🔥🔥🔥.... Nas has received hate in the media almost his whole career 🤦🏽♂️
Nore always hatin
nnnnnnaaaaahhhh that jawn was dope . ..people buggin' If they heard that song and said Son sold
#yallGottaRelax
Yall Gotta relax🤣
Nore starting to lie like Snoop..we got lived through the Era too..and nobody was saying he sold out..nore cappin period
Facts! They got it all wrong and phucked up!
What's a jawn?
@@m.m4982 basically. .. It's a person place or thing
That joint had the dance floor jump'n
Fa sho
99% of shit that has dancefloors bumpin is definitively sold out bullshit. It's made for vapid bitches who don't listen to Hip Hop.
If your sound is about the streets, worry about getting the streets to jump, your sound will always have the clubs jumping
@@yell0wberry what if he wanted to do other sounds? Yall gotta be more open minded
Worry about yourself and your career your taste in music opinions listening to drunk uncle podcasts @@yell0wberry
😂😂 I knew he was going to say that!! I ain’t know Ginuwine was in the clip!! That joint was hitting!!!
Maybe ppl in the comments not old enough or dont remember but Nore is right. Fans and critics came at Nas after that record and Oochi Walley saying he went pop
Funny thing is both records got a lot of play in the clubs. I think Nas wanted to switch his style up a little and brag and shine like his peers were doing.
Those songs were hot garbage. I knew what Nore was going to say before he said it. The adults at the time clowned Nas relentlessly for that.
Totally agree. The record ended up maybe growing on some people. But at the time when we first heard it initially it was certainly a different topic from the Nas we knew. At the time we(15-20yr olds) wanted artist to just talk about street life and struggles lol.
@@vicshephard9231too you I love them joints
@vicshephard9231 songs definitely not garbage. They just werent Steeet corner Nas songs
That track hit hard and still does til now and imma play it now since I saw this video!!!!
I love that joint to this day. And he was spittin on that joint! Sold out?? Naaaah son
That beat went hard.
by Timbaland
Your fingers slipped and you wrote hard instead of gay.
Nas is like is a hard beat
This tune is still a banger now
Timberland KILLED THAT BEAT 🔥🔥🔥🔥
To put things in context THAT WAS selling out coming straight out the golden era. The 90's was so thorough if you made a song for women to dance to you was seen as not rapping from your heart (selling out) or pandering to stay relevant..something almost every artist does today.
So its like he was selling out 'for the time' but in this day and age, we know better.
@@d2dar459 not really I just think we've gotten too conformist today. Before black women and stripping became a synonymous thing making songs for women outside of a genuine love song like Method Man "All I Need" was all a man had to say to a woman in a song. But rappers realized they make more catering to women so rappers don't really even speak honestly to women anymore in songs its all pandering to sell a record. That's fake af and that's why the game being fake af is normal now.
just a bunch of hypocrites if you ask me.
@@jkbzz
And motherfuckers act like they forgot about Dre.
They call you a sell out whenever you’re not a 1 trick pony
I'd could give a fuck bruh this song was popping for it's time heavy spins on the radio when it mattered.
💯 😂😂
That man is versatile. That's all. Uptempo and a message at the time.
"Guess I’m bein’ a real nigga like I’m ’posed to be
But bein’ real never once bought the groceries" -scHool boy Q
How is that selling out?? One thing i respect about Nas is he makes all kinds of music, just because you put him in a box, Nore, doesn't mean he sold out.
you should also respect yourself a little more so you dont make yourself look crazy for not listening to comprehend......Nore literally said, "Not me!", as in Nore never said Nas sold out, he heard ppl saying that. Listen to comprehend, NOT respond 😒
And people were def saying he sold out but i remember it being afyer hate me now
Nore wrong anywwy,people were saying Nas sold out before that song😅. Alot of fans of Illmatic were saying he sold out by the second album. He wasnt supposed to be doing the flossy rap and materialism,and pop records like everybody else. You would have to understand who his audience was after Illmatic dropped to get it. You Owe Me was when people started washing they hands of him,and writing him off. Partially this song,but mostly because his album quality was declining. While there were alot of new cats on the rise
@@jonathanstorie6370exactly,people are looking at it in hindsight. Plus alot of people werent on to Nas when Illmatic dropped. So Hate Me Now was loved and seen as normal. But for alot of his original fanbase,that song was definitely seen as THEE sellout move. He was already getting backlash by It Was Written. Just because it wasnt Illmatic part 2 lol
@@jayo208 I swear these people don't listen and only want to argue smh
I never looked @ it liked that... because I knew he had to go the path of constantly and growth, look at him now
That was a certified banger, never heard anyone (ok not many) person diss him fir that.
Leave it to a thirsty sell out with a gimmick podcast desperate to click bait for traffic to show his daddy combs
Lol hov dissed him for it on blueprint 2
Nore trippin'.. That whole album was off the chain..
Nore on that crack
Nastradamus wasn't fire. There's a reason why Jay-Z went after him hard after that album dropped.
Nore didn't say that he literally says in the video not me I didn't say that 😂😂 learn to listen
@@xxdamienxx823c9• You need to learn to listen to Nore my guy.. lol
I liked Nastradamus album. Fire tracks on it, bad promotion.
That was one of Nas classics! I got sloppy toppy to that track a couple times after the after hours club!!!
I don't consider that record sellout status, the people was trippin'
Back in the day any pop song was selling out ahiit dey Saud he sold out since it was written and I am
Exactly
@@ESSBoss
Yeah... Its possible hes just thinking with a bygone 1990s head
Because ppl in the hood have no vision. That song is fire and had the clubs lit tf up.
That joint still hot to this day son. Nas ain't sold out nothing b.
Its called evolving and as usual he killed that song...
No it's called trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator trying to get that jiggy era money which for Nas was like devolving coming from the lane of semi-conscious street rap.
@@jovanreid6782Ok your "opinion" is law no rebuttal from me.
Nastradamous really wasn't that bad off an album, Come Get Me, Project Windows and even You Owe Me are dope records.
Tht song wild underrated. 🔥
He trippin'. That shit was hot. Can still listen to that and vibe today.
Dude didnt say it wasnt hot tho why yall get so triggered?? 😂😂
@@QBFOJustin saying "sold out" is definitely the equivalent.
@@driskolestateshow absolutely isnt. In any way. Objectively wrong. You can say a song us selling out or pop, or radio and still acknowledge the track is still fire.
@@QBFOJustin nah. But I understand how times are different. People glorify snitches and drug users now. That's not the era I'm from though.
@@driskolestateshow who was talking about that wtf kind of diversion 😂
2024 an it's in my playlist. That was a club banger. Nas can do no wrong.
If you listen to the lyrics in thst song he definitely wasn't selling out. "Owe me back like you owe your tax/pay me back like 40 acres to blacks/pay me back, when you shake it like that". Nas was talking that sh*t! 😂
that track was 🔥
Underground king was showing em shiny-suit nigz he could collab, create a club banger, while kicking conscious subliminals... still king genius 🙌
That’s was my mom’s song!!!!! Him and Nas did a phenomenal job on that joint
From the prince to the king of the hood 👑
That shit still slapping
That joint went hard tho
Y'all was tripping that shit was hard as F!
That is a forever banger‼️💯 Classic ✅💯💯‼️
When you reaching out to a wider audience. You can’t keep just selling to one block of people. You need the ladies to feel the vibe as well.
This what Pac knew
@@tw82rone5 Exactly
That was my joint, club banger!!! Lol Nore trippin.
He's not tripping, that's literally what the a lot of people were saying back then, especially in the streets.
They looked at it as ohhh no he made a pop record with Hate Me Now and dressing like Puffy.
Nas had addressed this and is even in his documentary.
Nore sold out when diddy made him blow out them candles 💀
He didn’t sell out. It was the beat. Produced by neptunes or timberland. It was a different sound. He ain’t sell out. N I love that track
That joint was str8 🔥🔥🔥‼️
Y'all mischaracterized what he said!
We were saying Nas sold out since "If I Ruled the World" when he had Lauryn Hill on the hook. Illmatic was a very underground sounding album, even though it was on a major label. It Was Written was more commercial sounding. Cats were leaping off the ledge then. Songs like "You Owe Me," "Oochie Wally," and "Hate Me Now" just confirmed it.
You were saying that.
@@johanmassy5290 Nope, plenty of his Day Ones were saying that. Most of Nas' fans didn't come on board until It Was Written....and then a third wave hopped on during Stillmatic. .A lot of his Day Ones have been wanting him to recreate Illmatic throughout his entire career. He's mentioned it often in song and in interviews.
Nore thinks this.. WHO EVER SAID NAS SOLD OUT👀👀👀. WE LOVED THAT ALBUM like the rest from Nas
Bullshit! I hated that song! That song alone made me stop listening to Nas, period!
The media tried to sabotage Nas career. That Nastradamus album sounds good in 2023 #FACTS
This is how black people do each other and they try act like they all for one but they always throw each other under the bus...and the fans didn't care the rappers pushed that cause he did a record that wasn't sounding like a New York record
Nas ripped that jawn 🔥
The "people" ain't say NAS sold out because of that song. I ain't hear that.
Fell off might be the words.
@@vicshephard9231 Not because of that song tho.
That whole album was 🔥
Definitely an underrated album.
Facts
I dug Nastradamus more than IAm. Both were supremely dope to me though.
@@beantowne617 🤔 idk about all that now ....but to each his own
That record was fire!! It was also slept on too
Entire comments section riding for Nas and refuting this. Which tells me NORE is either capping......or.....that's how HE feels/felt, and is trying to use "everyone else" as his scapegoat.
NAS IS A TRUE KING.
Nas never sold out this dude is in my top five