@@sawyer3244 my thoughts exactly seeing him for the first time. I was like “he’s gonna turn into some grotesque beast” becomes innocence “damn... wish I could do that”
@@Jordan-wv2xz as someone else mentioned; he's been treated as a god-king basically all his life. He controls the sin eaters, the things everyone fears, making him feel like even more like a god. He's almost in control and he knows it. But I also see what you mean xD
Vauthry is the definition of innocence. In his first form, he is a literal giant baby, a symbol of innocence that even his parents raised him to never be wrong and why he threw a temper tantrum when Alphinaud questioned his rule in Eulmore. And even during his final moments, he claimed innocence asking what he did wrong. He was always raised on what he did right but never what he did wrong.
Its depressing that he literally cant tell what he's doing is wrong.He's essentially a child whose been manipulated into thinking every action since his first kill was completely noble and right. He is physically incapable of understanding why he was wrong,and that makes him all the more tragic.
I could be wrong, but I always thought Vauthry was called Innocence because he was the only sin eater to ever have been a sin eater from birth. Every other sin eater that existed, including Eden, was converted into one or "forgiven" at some point, going by sin eater names. To not be a sin eater or stand against them is a "sin", thus most of the other sin eaters have forgiven in their names. Whereas Vauthry, having being at least part sin eater his whole life, has never "sinned", thus he is innocent.
@@frediculous1191 I think it's a bit of both. Part because he was born a sin eater and so by their logic, he was never sinful, and part because he was raised to believe he was an ultimate paragon of good
@@Luxai At this point, his upbrining, he probably doesn't even know the difference. You'e gotta remember, he got corrupted to the very core by his parents in exchange of power and that he has no control over it. And the very thing he does becomes natural for him, his cruelty becomes his righteousness and he has devouted himself to it since BIRTH.
Passion is also another word for suffering in its original meaning. So him being forced to defeat us is his trial and what he must suffer in order to ascend to godhood.
I think the most fucked up thing about vauthry is that he seems like a stereotypical megalomaniac with a god complex, then you learn that he was CONDITIONED FROM BIRTH to believe that he was a godlike savior who would shepherd the lost to peace everlasting. and vauthry's every interaction suddenly makes perfect sense and it's somehow more horrifying than if he was just some evil dude. Vauthry sincerely believed that he was a good person, that his every action was righteous, he believed he had every right to punish those he deemed wicked, that HE alone was the one who had the right to determine good and evil. and in terms of the sin eaters, his name even lines up with that idea. As a human and as a sineater, he was the epitome of innocence. I feel like under vastly different circumstances vauthry could have very well become the saint he believed himself to be. it's just that this instance his stubborn, conditioned refusal to change himself and self-reflect was what led him down this evil path. vauthry even had command over the sineaters, if he'd come up with a more efficient means of keeping them fed with living aether he could have used them to turn the 1st into a true paradise. but vauthry was not a smart man, simply a man with no understanding of how reality works burdened with the deluded task of being the 1st shard's savior.
I JUST noticed that when the wings start emerging from Vauthry’s back, they literally tear it in half like he’s a cocoon for the Lightwarden inside him…
I always I thought vauthry size came from him being a glutton, but now I can’t get the image out of my head that innocence’s body is growing inside vauthry like a parasite
and Vauthrys mind takes it over like Zenos does with Shinryu. in fact alot of parallels can be drawn. Like Zenos, Vauthry is a result of Ascian tampering from the womb, Vauthrys father had the same sort of imperialistic mentality, they even share the same VA I think (varis and vautrys father). plus the two female guards dressed in red and blue.
I still consider this my favorite fight of the expansion. SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER. SUFFER AND KNOW YOUR FOLLY. and then when he starts realizing he's kinda getting dunked on.. switches to Damn you, why do you not fall? Why? WHHHYYYYYY?! Shit just hits so good. Like I get weirdly emotional when I rewatch these fights with the VA clearly coming through, cause it was just TOO GOOD that first time.
@@Agostobenjamin lol! yea It was soooo well done. The flowing hair, the way the camera pans around, his epic voice lines, the swords shooting out of the wings....SO GOOD! The ffxiv team sure knows how to choreographan entrance
Dude I was expecting him to turn into a big blob monster , my face was this when he transformed :O everyone in chat that was new was like WTH!!!! amazing experience the first time man I love SE they are amazing and story telling!
This might be just a wishful thinking but...I hope in Post Endwalker we get someone who's a reincarnation of Vauthry himself.Someone who's extremely blessed but doesn't turned out to be like this Vauthry. He really deserves a second chance,As much as i think his actions should not go unpunished,It's not his fault that he's the way he was because he wasn't raised properly and literally molded to be like this ever since he's a baby.He literally doesn't know the difference between wrong and good...That's the Definition of Innocence.
@@christopherbravo1813not to mention that the fact he turned out the way he did is partly because he was half-sin eater. Any reincarnation would be just a regular guy
There’s a lot of really neat stuff with the title. My personal favorite is that while he may have been born Innocent he too was twisted. Innocence, freedom, joy, even light are not unquestionably pure. All that is good can grow corrupt and foul, though likewise can that which we deem evil be made pure.
@@lemonlefleur6236 the title of innocence has nothing to do with him being malicious. And i would argue he ISNT twisted, his view is innocent for precisely that reason - he whole heartedly believes in his own cause, powers, and judgement - he never learns/accepts the truth of it so he remains "innocent" hence his name
@@Red-wc1br From his perspective he’s surely just and holy, but what he thinks is irrelevant. We cannot trust a madman to determine his own innocence. It may all be the result of circumstances outside of his control, but that doesn’t change the terrible things that he’s done.
Also it ties in with the naming convention of most other Sin Eaters: “Forgiven **SOMETHING**” Like the process of becoming a Sin Eaters forgives you of some sin your past life, but Vauthry was uniquely born a Sin Eater, so he couldn’t have committed a Sin to turn him into a Sin Eater, hence Innocence. Plus Vauthry is very much viewed as a Messianic figure, and him being a simultaneously mortal/divine figure that was born without sin gives him some serious Jesus parallels.
This is officially my favorite version of this song, if only because I ADORE how much of an ass Vauthry is. His VA was.....immaculate. ....I'll see myself out....
A ruler who had no training, overpowering absolutely, ascended after a little bit of combat to 'golden'. This guy is literally Frieza if Frieza was ignorant and benign.
It's funny that Dark Souls vids are full of comments drawing parallel between the smallest thing in there and Berserk, and here nobody bats an eye when the boss literally transforms into Griffith. Not to mention all the parallels between Eulmore and Fantasia. Oh well.
The most impressive thing is how he was able to turn his Muumuu into a toga and his gaudy trinkets into a cheastplate, he must have maxed his goldsmith, armorer, and weaver.
Currently just entered endwalker not sure how it can possibly top this expansion; innoncence, elidibus, emet-selch. I feel like shadowbringers set my expectations too high and now nothing will top it.
Doing other languages could be fun but there are a number of English language trials and dungeons that I will likely be doing first. [Insert generic YoshiP comment about more community feedback.]
I off-tanked this fight after running it only once a long time ago. Practice from EW content helped me get by (also tank = does not die as fast lol) and by the gods, a fun fight with a banger music is just too damn good.
I had to get used to his voice, because I refuse to play games with English VA's don't care. But, this fight set the stage for what I THOUGHT would've been a good primal list to farm. Shadowbringers fucking garbage primals after Innocence.. Only other good one was WoL everyone else too long, boring and music is garbage.. Least Innocence didn't let me down.
"He's gonna get even fatter."
"I was wrong."
OH NO, HE'S HOT!
@@sawyer3244 my thoughts exactly seeing him for the first time. I was like “he’s gonna turn into some grotesque beast” becomes innocence “damn... wish I could do that”
@@sawyer3244 I ain't tapping that
@@CryBlueofZ your loss
@@NaudiNadia GOOD
I hope the voice actor for Vauthry/Innocence gets more work as a voice actor. He did a fantastic job and I want to hear more of him in other works.
I believe he was also in Game of thrones.
@@Toko-yami4 Specifically, he was the lord of bones.
He SHOUTS every line
@@Xenos_hive That's the character, though. A privileged man-child with a god complex.
@@aboundedsumo7984 waaait holy shit!!
I was surprised at how much I loved Vauthry's voice for Innocence.
I know, right? Vauthry is just an utterly MASSIVE ham. Guess meol isn't the only thing he enjoys chewing on.
@@Jordan-wv2xz as someone else mentioned; he's been treated as a god-king basically all his life. He controls the sin eaters, the things everyone fears, making him feel like even more like a god. He's almost in control and he knows it.
But I also see what you mean xD
Path of Exile did it better.
@@somederp8915 Good for you.
@@somederp8915 Elaborate. My interest is piqued
Vauthry is the definition of innocence. In his first form, he is a literal giant baby, a symbol of innocence that even his parents raised him to never be wrong and why he threw a temper tantrum when Alphinaud questioned his rule in Eulmore. And even during his final moments, he claimed innocence asking what he did wrong. He was always raised on what he did right but never what he did wrong.
Its depressing that he literally cant tell what he's doing is wrong.He's essentially a child whose been manipulated into thinking every action since his first kill was completely noble and right.
He is physically incapable of understanding why he was wrong,and that makes him all the more tragic.
I could be wrong, but I always thought Vauthry was called Innocence because he was the only sin eater to ever have been a sin eater from birth. Every other sin eater that existed, including Eden, was converted into one or "forgiven" at some point, going by sin eater names. To not be a sin eater or stand against them is a "sin", thus most of the other sin eaters have forgiven in their names. Whereas Vauthry, having being at least part sin eater his whole life, has never "sinned", thus he is innocent.
@@frediculous1191 I think it's a bit of both. Part because he was born a sin eater and so by their logic, he was never sinful, and part because he was raised to believe he was an ultimate paragon of good
doesn't change what he did was cruel and evil, and that he felt elation at seeing misery.
@@Luxai
At this point, his upbrining, he probably doesn't even know the difference. You'e gotta remember, he got corrupted to the very core by his parents in exchange of power and that he has no control over it. And the very thing he does becomes natural for him, his cruelty becomes his righteousness and he has devouted himself to it since BIRTH.
Imagine watching the battle from Eulmore and just hearing innocence’s booming voice and the giant explosion of light from his ultimate attack
Man when he says “Ah… I see now. This is the PASSION of my ascension” it’s a moment of revelation for the character and the VA did it so well
Passion is also another word for suffering in its original meaning. So him being forced to defeat us is his trial and what he must suffer in order to ascend to godhood.
7:16 that voiceline followed by the drop goes so fucking hard holy shit
I think the most fucked up thing about vauthry is that he seems like a stereotypical megalomaniac with a god complex, then you learn that he was CONDITIONED FROM BIRTH to believe that he was a godlike savior who would shepherd the lost to peace everlasting.
and vauthry's every interaction suddenly makes perfect sense and it's somehow more horrifying than if he was just some evil dude.
Vauthry sincerely believed that he was a good person, that his every action was righteous, he believed he had every right to punish those he deemed wicked, that HE alone was the one who had the right to determine good and evil.
and in terms of the sin eaters, his name even lines up with that idea. As a human and as a sineater, he was the epitome of innocence. I feel like under vastly different circumstances vauthry could have very well become the saint he believed himself to be. it's just that this instance his stubborn, conditioned refusal to change himself and self-reflect was what led him down this evil path. vauthry even had command over the sineaters, if he'd come up with a more efficient means of keeping them fed with living aether he could have used them to turn the 1st into a true paradise. but vauthry was not a smart man, simply a man with no understanding of how reality works burdened with the deluded task of being the 1st shard's savior.
After this fight, we know who was to blame for what Vaunthry did... He was not, but a pawn
Ffxiv does this well
9:30 that attack sync up
8:40 that one too lol
@@sawyer3244 but 8:00 is the best one
"It's okay, don't panic... just imagine him in his second stage."
"... OH NO HE'S HOOOOOOOT!"
His voice actor really poured EVERYTHING into Vauthry's temper tantrums! Sensational performance, one of friggin' DOZENS in Shadowbringers.
I JUST noticed that when the wings start emerging from Vauthry’s back, they literally tear it in half like he’s a cocoon for the Lightwarden inside him…
I always I thought vauthry size came from him being a glutton, but now I can’t get the image out of my head that innocence’s body is growing inside vauthry like a parasite
@@digisalamander2726 Considering Sin Eaters, that won't even be a weird thing lol
@@digisalamander2726 Would have liked that more, the "oh no he's hot" form is still him.
fun little detail: when he transforms, the head on his chest shakes, indicating that's the light warden's actually form breaking loose from vauthry.
In a way, one can see Vauthry's bloated form as a kind of coccoon that the Lightwarden burst out from when it was finished maturing.
and Vauthrys mind takes it over like Zenos does with Shinryu. in fact alot of parallels can be drawn. Like Zenos, Vauthry is a result of Ascian tampering from the womb, Vauthrys father had the same sort of imperialistic mentality, they even share the same VA I think (varis and vautrys father). plus the two female guards dressed in red and blue.
@@Shiirow oh my god….thought that was just mere coincidence
I still consider this my favorite fight of the expansion.
SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER. SUFFER AND KNOW YOUR FOLLY.
and then when he starts realizing he's kinda getting dunked on.. switches to
Damn you, why do you not fall? Why? WHHHYYYYYY?!
Shit just hits so good. Like I get weirdly emotional when I rewatch these fights with the VA clearly coming through, cause it was just TOO GOOD that first time.
Vauthry’s voice actor was fucking amazing
4:22 Oh no! He's HOT!
Jokes on you he was always hot
Tch. Much as I hated him, I do love how this story wove the Sin Eaters into biblical lore.
XD i had that thought
0:05 What the ants in the springtime see and hear as I make my way downstairs to the kitchen for a midnight snack
The bass guitar backing up 1:27 just makes that entire part godly.
4:36 The single hardest pose in final fantasy
When I first saw his transformation my jaw was on the floor
Lol yes! It was such an awesome.. and rather handsome twist
I accidentally got in progress the first time, I was like wtf is going on?! When he spoke it gave me goosebumps
@@Agostobenjamin lol! yea It was soooo well done. The flowing hair, the way the camera pans around, his epic voice lines, the swords shooting out of the wings....SO GOOD! The ffxiv team sure knows how to choreographan entrance
@Nikzedik GRIFFIIIIIIIITH!
Honestly his booming echo mixed with the theme music is one of the reasons my sanity was kept intact when i ran EX 99 times for the mount.
it's strange, the music isn't complete without him
That Guy yeah
Indeed
Totally. Same with Hades imo, the great voice acting just makes the fights and music so much more impactful.
I think it's bc the song itself tells a tale
one of the best parts of this theme wt the VA is 7:56
Ahhhh...Vauthry...the man who wiped my buddy’s party from the sheer shock of his transformation and the literal laughfest from it. XD
it just sounds so much more badass with the music and voice acting together in a fun fight lol very nice xD
This voice actor put so much into this character, this fight still gives me goosebumps.
Finally... found someone who is making these videos in this format. I've tried telling other content creators that sound effects are too noisy.
1:27 best part❤️😪
Dude I was expecting him to turn into a big blob monster , my face was this when he transformed :O everyone in chat that was new was like WTH!!!! amazing experience the first time man I love SE they are amazing and story telling!
TY for putting this up. There was one in JPN but I love the ENG voice cast so much, really wanted to hear it without the battle effects!
Still love how memed his 1st lines are for this fight. honestly that whole talking down the steps part.
This might be just a wishful thinking but...I hope in Post Endwalker we get someone who's a reincarnation of Vauthry himself.Someone who's extremely blessed but doesn't turned out to be like this Vauthry.
He really deserves a second chance,As much as i think his actions should not go unpunished,It's not his fault that he's the way he was because he wasn't raised properly and literally molded to be like this ever since he's a baby.He literally doesn't know the difference between wrong and good...That's the Definition of Innocence.
well, any reincarnation would probably be an infant at the very most.
@@christopherbravo1813not to mention that the fact he turned out the way he did is partly because he was half-sin eater. Any reincarnation would be just a regular guy
@@thehermit8618 Is Minfilia a joke to you? XD
@@christopherbravo1813Yes. Now pray return to the Waking Sands.
@@InquisitorThomas Okay....
Crazy how he is called innocence. In the weirdest way... the way he is, was never his fault.
There’s a lot of really neat stuff with the title.
My personal favorite is that while he may have been born Innocent he too was twisted. Innocence, freedom, joy, even light are not unquestionably pure. All that is good can grow corrupt and foul, though likewise can that which we deem evil be made pure.
@@lemonlefleur6236 the title of innocence has nothing to do with him being malicious. And i would argue he ISNT twisted, his view is innocent for precisely that reason - he whole heartedly believes in his own cause, powers, and judgement - he never learns/accepts the truth of it so he remains "innocent" hence his name
@@Red-wc1br From his perspective he’s surely just and holy, but what he thinks is irrelevant. We cannot trust a madman to determine his own innocence. It may all be the result of circumstances outside of his control, but that doesn’t change the terrible things that he’s done.
Also it ties in with the naming convention of most other Sin Eaters: “Forgiven **SOMETHING**” Like the process of becoming a Sin Eaters forgives you of some sin your past life, but Vauthry was uniquely born a Sin Eater, so he couldn’t have committed a Sin to turn him into a Sin Eater, hence Innocence. Plus Vauthry is very much viewed as a Messianic figure, and him being a simultaneously mortal/divine figure that was born without sin gives him some serious Jesus parallels.
This is officially my favorite version of this song, if only because I ADORE how much of an ass Vauthry is. His VA was.....immaculate.
....I'll see myself out....
Vauthry's voice is very archaic but suitable, even in his transformation.
Very well I shall embrace this trial(this trial)
Feel my wroth(my wroth)
Know your place(your place)
Love how his voice echoes
This dude really transformed mid fight
Dude popped a fantasia mid fight
A ruler who had no training, overpowering absolutely, ascended after a little bit of combat to 'golden'.
This guy is literally Frieza if Frieza was ignorant and benign.
Somebody is absolutely making love to that piano
Never before has there been such a poignant example of 'Oh no, he's hot' than watching Vauthry's transformation, lol.
When the party wipes on “Atone with your lives!” Enrage :T
We sure did.
VA is Edward Dogliani for anyone wondering. Easily one of the best VA's in FFXIV
Such Bliss.....
It's funny that Dark Souls vids are full of comments drawing parallel between the smallest thing in there and Berserk, and here nobody bats an eye when the boss literally transforms into Griffith. Not to mention all the parallels between Eulmore and Fantasia.
Oh well.
The most impressive thing is how he was able to turn his Muumuu into a toga and his gaudy trinkets into a cheastplate, he must have maxed his goldsmith, armorer, and weaver.
This moment was peak. Until of course everything after this happened. But this was peak.
"You bid farewell to Innocence."
aahhhhhh such bliss
God Shadow Bringers has some of the most powerful music i've heard in along time in game tracks..... XD
"EYE WUHL CURUSH YEW!"
I just realized this song is like a corrupted Tomorrow and Tomorrow. That’s actually really neat.
Do more of these. I need them
4:17 epic
"Local fat man who thinks he's God loses weight and grows a full head of hair minutes before death."
one of my favorite boss musical themes!!!
Hey b0ss, can you do this for hades as well?
4:25 This was SO Bayonetta of him
Thanks for this! Really like the idea. Could you possibly do Tsukuyomi? :)
Yep, was thinking that would be the next best one. Great minds and all that!
@@darxevnkaitos3135 Snek and Byakko are also enjoyable to listen to with the BGM
Oh, damn - I'd love to see the battles with the VA for Omega, Bahamut, and the final boss of Shadow Bringers.
i am stifled by this vesicle of flesh. line gave me goosebumps when i first heard it.
Bahamut doesn't have any dialogue, though...
THANK YOU
This was so neat! I liked this a lot! Maybe after Tsukuyomi you could do Suzaku?
Went from Boohbah to Handsome Squidward
the intro of this song is crazy lmao
Currently just entered endwalker not sure how it can possibly top this expansion; innoncence, elidibus, emet-selch. I feel like shadowbringers set my expectations too high and now nothing will top it.
It just needs the wingblade sounds and it would be perfect
i was fully expecting him to turn into a giant baby honestly haha
but instead THIS happened and i went "O H ,"
I went to find this because I just wanted to hear him go:
I WILL EXCISE THE SIN OF YOUR EXISTENCR
In any other game he would've been the final boss.
I luv him ///
Vauthry's VA played Rattleshirt in Game of Thrones.
Thanks you get it please make more like this.
FEEL MY BREATH
Really good job!
I AM RIGHTEOUSNESS
AND RIGHTEOUSNESS SHALL PREVAIL
Suffer, SUFFER, SUFFER!
Majin Buu turns into Dhaos
was almost a perfect transition. just needed another 2 seconds and that piano wouldve mmmmph
i can't tell what he is saying at 1:47 it sounds like: ''i will stick you up, you lose, and i quit''
Lionlostintime
Sounds like “I will strip you of the allusion of will” to me.
@@patientsheep2630
ya that sounds more of what it could be xD
"I will strip you of the illusion of will!"
Could you do this with the japanese voice acting too? :D
Doing other languages could be fun but there are a number of English language trials and dungeons that I will likely be doing first. [Insert generic YoshiP comment about more community feedback.]
@@darxevnkaitos3135 ahh of course! Take these at your own pace my dude
@@maplesights Please look forward to it. :P
Man I didn’t like the other FF games but I am all about fights like this. Might check this one out
It's a long road but it will be worth the ride!
It takes a while to get good, but it's worth it. The trials are the best part honestly
I off-tanked this fight after running it only once a long time ago. Practice from EW content helped me get by (also tank = does not die as fast lol) and by the gods, a fun fight with a banger music is just too damn good.
God damnit...I just remembered that they removed Kaiten..
english vauthry is best version
I saw a kaiten activation in there.
R I P
Lookism (manhwa)
Dude this is awesome! Make one for Zurvan :D
4:02
Bro if u can do this for SOS i’d die a happy man
Could be cool with a version of these with Japanese VA too
I will crush youuuuuuu
What Moviebob actually believes
lmao what
This comment is great lmao
Second Phase ; What most 14 players think they look like.
First Phase ; Reality.
"IT BURNS. IT BURNS."
Second phase: FF14 Player's characters
First phase: the players IRL
🤘😝🤘💜💜💜💛💛💛
Video games? ON MY /v/?
One last chance villains, bow down and acknowledge WoW as your king. Your GOD!
I...don't remember this. At all. :/
legit thought this was how Trump's presidency would end
I got the moint on the first kill, i was like bye Felecia, i am never going to listen to this auto tone song ever again
I had to get used to his voice, because I refuse to play games with English VA's don't care. But, this fight set the stage for what I THOUGHT would've been a good primal list to farm. Shadowbringers fucking garbage primals after Innocence.. Only other good one was WoL everyone else too long, boring and music is garbage..
Least Innocence didn't let me down.
If you didn’t like the game then fuck off
Yeah you can have your on opinion but I'll just say I'm glad my tastes are different than yours
The other trials are fun as hell imo
All the Shadowbringers Trials slap though, the only Shadowbringers Trial that sucks is the Titania Trial
Oooo one with seat of sacrifice?