Netflix Food Documentaries Are Lying To You | A Doctor Debunks Bad Nutrition Science
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2024
- Another day, another vegan propaganda film on Netflix. Nothing wrong with a plant-based diet, but docs like "The Game Changers" distort science. Here's how to avoid getting suckered by nutritional "fake news."
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My anecdotal story. I adopted an oil-free, Whole Foods plant based diet as of October 2022. I’m 44 yrs old and I weighed 209 lbs. My blood pressure was around 155/80 range. My total cholesterol was 215. My resting heart rate was in the 70s. Today 2/21/2023 my weight is 176 lbs. My blood range is 105/55 range. My resting heart rate is 55. Total cholesterol is 135. My plantar fasciitis pain is gone, so is my endometriosis pain and chronic back pain. My only exercise was a 30 minute daily walk, but since this month I’m back at the gym lifting and running, like my younger gym rat dates. No medications used. I only supplement b12, but we’re all low on b12. Don’t knock it till you try it.
What do you eat?
thank you , many others exactly like you as well.
Gone to the plant-based Whole Foods diet and I am in the same with you my cholesterol is down my weights down and I feel a lot healthier I had wish I'd known about the B12 thing before I got really low but bounced right back up. For the person who asked what do you eat,wonderful food made by yourself. You're on UA-cam you would not believe how many resources are on this platform. You can find recipes to all kinds of good food that you can make. You don't have to go completely vegan you can just pick a day or two out of the week to do it. You can go Whole Foods eating meat and dairy and benefit from that as well. It's not as hard as you think try it you might like it.
I’m 55 and BMI is 20 all my life and my diet is easy: eat everything in moderation, the more variaties of single ingredients in a week the better, 14gr of fiber every 1000 calories, 40gr protein (plant based or animal), 1x cultured food, 2 pcs of fruits, 250 gr vegetable daily and no added sugar in drinks. Allowing myself for a bag of chips or a piece of cake once a week, because a treat is a treat, not a meal. An active lifestyle of 20 hours weekly is enough to maintain my weight. Most people think I’m 15 years younger than my real age. It could be genetic, but I’m sure moderation and variation in food help too
Yes, I have been plant based for 21 years now since I was 13 years old. I had horrible dermatitis since birth. Tried everything and the plant based diet was the only thing that helped me. Also, many obese women in my family, I feel the diet helps me to keep in normal weight range even I consume a lot of food. So in my opinion these documentaries are great. This diet might not fit everyone. But could be an amazing solution for many dealing with sorts of medical issues or weight problems.
Bottomline - If you've found a way to cut meds, a healthy weight, good sleep, feel good, etc, then DO IT !!
The unfortunate part is the first 15 seconds of your message can be applied to pretty much anything health related. All data has been massaged, tweaked, adjusted .
Which it what makes it fake.
@UnNamed See you've been watching too many of those "documentaries" he was talking about. Nothing you said is really true but is only kind of, sort of true if you squit at it while looking at the Sun.
yes. its like saying that the same to a medical book. like saying thats fake news too..
Meat based diet is your natural diet this is support by the fact that mothers breast milk contains Cholesterol , Saturated Animal Fat , Amino acids.. Why should the human diet change to vegetables .. Fact #2 humans don't have a Rumen or cecum( it's vestigial organ i.e useless) veganism and vegetables/fruits are debunked....
plants just oxidized in the gut and rot.... vegans all ready proved this by the fact they fart like 20 times day.. rotting plant matter releases methane gas (Which is not environmentally friendly ) this can be verified by lighting the fart on fire
@@punker4Realhuman breastmilk does not contain animal fat. we evolved from apes which doesn't have rumen and are mainly vegetarian. humans have cecum. vegetables don't stay long in the digestive tract to rot. animal products rot faster and start the process as soon as it becomes a corpse. methane gas are mainly produced by animal agriculture. by selective breeding we produce 87 percent of greenhouse emissions.
As Mark Twain once said, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics.
@@bradysmith7427 Seems like all of these responses are doing exactly what he is talking about... cherry picking data... meh
@@joshuabrown2931 Ah yes, the old "cherry picking" attack on vegans. Here is a fantastic response to that desperate argument:
ua-cam.com/video/Nk4X4lWdUj0/v-deo.html
Like the spectacular drop of mortality from circular diseases during world war 2 when the population went starch-based ? ua-cam.com/video/VOP_cMcaIYU/v-deo.html
The population decide what they wanna be and eat. Antibiotics, hormones, salmonella, etc...
Is up to them to deciding but is very disappointing watching heavyweight people with their distorted bodies full of floating cellulite eating McDonalds.
In reality, obesity is a mutation because of meat.
Funny thing is, Mark Twain was a vegan. :))
I have had an autoimmune disease (scarring alopecia) for 8.5 years. 3 weeks into an all beef diet with 3 meals, the redness is going away and I am finally growing hair back in that spot. My skin looks better, my insomnia is improving like crazy and my weight is dropping
5 years of auto immune and 2 weeks after wim hof method im about 100% cured. I wouldn't touch animal products if my life depended on it
@Jorge Sweet hi, please elaborate
@Jorge Sweet are you talking about vaccines?
@Jorge Sweet ok. Why
My wife is an anesthesiologist. She told me about a conversation between a surgeon and a nurse in the OR.
Surgeon: "yeah, I saw that "documentary" I'm going to start eating only plant based 2 days a week"
Nurse: "why only 2 days?"
Surgeon: "because I believe roughly 2/7 of that "documentary" to be true"
Research is not the end all be all. Common sense will tell you eating vegetables and fruits will be healthier than eating bacon cheeseburgers all the time. All I know is that i feel better eating less meat. Food is medicine.
Don DuBose
You are so right! In Asia people eat a lot of vegetables and fruits. They live long age but you need organic or grow your own.
Organic is neither better nor worse than conventional.
Vinny Giardina
Grow your own is the best ! But if you can't go for organic better than GMO big fat American
Cupcake Yummy Bullshit the people of Hong Kong have the longest life spans and eat the most meat. The SAD is 70% plant based how is the health of the average American.
He never said it wont. He made it clear that eating only veggies is better than eating junk food. But you can eat both meat AND veggies. In fact, I eat mostly veggies. Guess what? My health is great because Im health conscious.
I became morbidly obese and pre-diabetic after 25 years of vegetarian then vegan. So when anyone approaches me about how healthy a vegan diet is I tell them to come back and talk to me after they have been eating that way for 25 years.
Has this diet been proven to reverse heart disease like a vegan diet.
Vegan dieters have more strokes. Swapping heart disease for strokes while having to supplement stuff you can eat
It’s amazing that humans can survive on so many wildly different diets.
they cant u idiot, humans are canivores, thats why vegans inject needles to get animal protiens or b12 vitmanins LOL
@@alexkace6620 lack of b12 is because of civilization and extra hygiene society we live in. ┐( ̄ヘ ̄)┌
@@alexkace6620 humans aren’t carnivore idiot
@@alexkace6620 and also they inject animals with b12. Watch dominion documentary, the game changers and seaspiracy on Netflix. You clown
@@CicoinTokyo777 documEntary is fake. You can disprove it with real life applications
But they are also doing research on fat in blood after a meat/vegan meal and other topics and how cutting meat down can help your health, not all was compared to a SAD diet
I jut can say this for my own experience , my health has turned around 180 degrees since I adopted a plant based diet.... or eating most of my calories from plants. A FACT, not numbers or statistic.
As a fellow vegan, I must say that individual experiences have no significance due to the placebo/nocebo effect. If an individual believes that a plant-based diet will make a person more energetic, then the person will become more energetic. Similarly, if an individual believes that a plant-based diet will make a person weary, the person will actually become weary. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The good thing is that we don't have to rely on self-reported anecdotal evidence, as we have plenty of double-blind, placebo-controlled studies clinically proving the benefits of a vegan diet.
Blood test work isn’t a placebo effect 🤦🏻♀️ unless you think lab work done on an individual can be influenced by a person’s mental state 🤣 No, your blood sugars and cholesterol didn’t really go down, it was the placebo effect. 🙄
Healthy Omnivore here ! Cook the books all you want BUT.... In my 50's without Meds or Pain so eat your Kale and Soy Lattes! 👍
I am my own body of proof. The only difference between me before I was vegan and me now, is that I don’t get sick nearly as often, I don’t get dry flakey skin, my allergies reduced and I sleep better
I left FB a year ago but I can always get my fill of misinformation, contention and straight-up crazy right here in the comment section on UA-cam.
Actually a lot of things in the movie were compelling, and the fear mongering was pretty minimal. I have a sad diet for sure. But the movie compelled me to become "plant based" not "vegan. I currently eat meat every single meal, and I overeat as well. I am going to benefit greatly by having guidelines on my food. It's not a restrictive lifestyle at all. And the movie isn't trying to make more annoying vegans at parties. I think it was actually doing a pretty good job of saying "base your diet off of plants, your colon and cancer risk will thank you for reduced meat intake"
Making some great points Z. From a science standpoint it's really hard to say "Eat this diet because it's proven to be the best diet to eat". We know that doing an actual diet experiment with a meaningful group size is nearly impossible. Even when we do complete these experiments often the only people who are really able to stick to a controlled specific diet are people who are already very disciplined about their health and diet which skews the results. In addition to this we also have to account for genetics which we know play a role in how well certain types of food are tolerated by the body. However one other massive issue is a lack of general education regarding diet. Even among healthcare professionals on the clinical side of things I have found a massive deficit in very basic dietary knowledge. Not to call out my coworkers but the majority of physicians and nurses I know are woefully undereducated in regards to diet. A simple macro nutrient and calorie count break down for an average patient is something that would be beyond the ability of most clinicians. Yeah, that patient can go see a nutritionist but do we really need to send them to a specialist to deal with such a basic adl? It's ridiculous to elevate the problem to that extent without out the presence of other serious dietary restrictions. The proof of this is in the hospital diet. I don't care what it is, Ada, cardiac, low fat, whatever. We give our patients meals that are 75% carbohydrates 15% protein and 10% fat etc. This is shameful and the fact that were giving them this stuff as an example of a healthy well balanced meal makes it even worse. The thing is, I don't see anyone standing up and protesting. We go into our patients rooms and tell them they need to lose weight, and then we hand them a menu with french fries, pizza, burgers, and soda on it. So are these documentaries bullshit, well yeah they are, but we're shoveling shit just like the people who make those films are.
Very true. What about the hospitals that have fast food in their lobbies? Bottom line is that hospitals are businesses and the goal is to make money. Keeping patients healthy is not profitable. We have the ability to make an impact by providing education to our patients about what they should be eating but we fail to. Everyone in healthcare has an agenda.
Charles Darwin: "I have always been astonished at the fact that the most extraordinary workers I ever saw, viz., the laborers in the mines of Chili, live exclusively on vegetable food, which includes many seeds of the leguminous plants."
@@aurelienb9109 on the subject of eating Puma "It is remarkably like veal" -Charles Darwin, world renowned expert on diet and nutrition.
@@tcbbct509 on the subject of eating glass and metal: "Very very good" - Michel Lotito, the man who ate an airplane and more than 9 tons of metal in his life... i totally agree that the food in hospitals is terribly unbalanced. A balanced human diet, the diet that all successful populations in the world in the whole human recorded history is used to eat, is more like 88-90% starch 10% vegetables and fruits and 0-2% animal products (optional).
@@aurelienb9109 If you could kindly stop pulling bullshit out of your ass that would be great. Inuit and Maasai populations thrive on a very small amount of plant food and mostly animal food, humans can thrive on a wide variety of diets, we're very adaptable omnivores. Also without supplementation of certain nutrients animal products are NOT optional long term
I follow a plant based diet and I agree with you on many of these points, specifically the quality of studies out there right now. However, we do have significant data that tells us eating plants and Whole Foods is healthier than eating processed meats, dairy, sugar, etc. Putting a vegan or plant based diet label on a person doesn’t mean anything about their health unless you actually look at what they’re putting in their mouths (I.e Oreos or bananas :) )
I don't want to take sides on any of the diets, but processed foods (not just meat) and sugar (which is also vegan) is not good in general. And yes, dairy is kinda bad too. I think the best option is to balance your diet (balance is always the key) and reduce the meat intake to "whole" meat.
@@ThomasS17 Full fat dairy is "associated" with lower rates of heart disease. Non fat dairy does not have this association.
There's also significant data showing the opposite !!
The world is not just divided between people who eat plants and people who eat processed meats...that is my only problem when I hear people talk about meat eaters, as if we don't know what a broccoli is. In truth there are vegans and vegetarians who never put a veggie in their mouth as well. I eat meat, but I hardly ever meet anyone (including vegetarians and vegans) who eat as much greens as I do. I think most people agree that plants are good, some argue about starchy root vegetables and warn people (especially diabetics) to stay away from high glycemic fruits...but produce is seen as an overall positive thing in most regiments.
@DaRKsOUL Looks like you don't understand what my comment was on. I am typing slowly so you can understand. Full fat dairy consumption is associated with lower rates of CVD in the general population. No mention of vegetarians or meat eaters. Are we OK?
Watching a UA-cam video about diets while eating cookies and making baked spaghetti.... I have nothing to contribute here....
Ashley Savannah 😂
Did you bring enough cookies for the rest of the class?
Chick fil a chicken nuggets here. Ugh. I hate myself 🤦♀️
Ashley Savannah I thought you were great in the Devil Wears Prada, one of my favorite accresses hands down
You will........guaranteed.
There's a reason why it's called SAD....
lol
@Glen M
So is the vegan cult diet, but it is also wildly deficient.
@Glen M
Ha, even vegans panned that film. It was so full of lies, it was embarrassing to them. All vegan films are pure propaganda to lure people into their malnutrition cult.
@Glen M
Ha, agreed, less competition at the meat counter.
It goes way beyond their choices, they want to force it on everyone and end all animal ag, including family farms. You surely know all that, keep voicing you opinions.
@Glen M
Unfortunately, I was vegan for 8 years. I recommended it to my father and he was for 8 years as well.
It was the "doctors" of PCRM that helped convince me it was healthy.
The day I discovered it was deficient we quit. Being lied to about something that greatly affects me was a tremendous motivator. I will forever work to expose the lies of the vegan cult.
Thanks for the link, I read the whole thing. I had no idea the depths of their lies and agendas. What dangerous quacks!
I'm angry all over again.
Those PCRM doctors have aged rapidly and poorly. Barnard has the neck of a 9 year old girl, McDougal is 72 and looks 95.
A very interesting read, thanks!
When Unnatural Vegan made a video about that you need not to be vegan to be healthy, she lost over 100 subscribers. Strict diets are ideologies.
My doctor recommended a vegan diet when nothing brought my LDL Cholesterol down. I tried it and one month later my LDL dropped 75 points, and HDL rose 4 points. The best experiment is with your doctor on yourself. I resent categorizing people as "vegans" and your description of them as a people. I eat a clean, plant-based, whole grain, non-dairy diet, low in sugar, salt, and processed oils. I occasionally eat salmon. A Mediterranean diet has been proven by wide WHO study to raise overall health. Why pick on vegans? Attack the people who tell our children that daily meat and dairy is healthy.
Vegan diets can be just as crappy as a SAD. I just had an impossible whopper yesterday. I also eat oreos from time to time. Talk about zero nutritional value.
I mean it depends on how you have the whopper. With Oreos sure, the vegan police can arrest me later. My point still stands.
Oreos are vegan.
I want one of those impossible burgers that was grilled in the same place as the regular burgers!
Vegan is a philosophy, not a diet. Whether one is vegan or plant based, eating oreos is idiotic.
Talk about dying soon
Whole food plant based diet is considered the healthiest diet. A vegan diet can can consist of processed and refined foods (just like a vegetarian and meat eater), which are unhealthy. However, a whole food plant based diet avoids those. In the end, Forks over knives aimed to promote a whole food plant based diet. Vegans can eat unhealthy, vegetarians can eat unhealthy, and meat eaters can eat unhealthy. A healthy diet solely depends on the quality of the food.
I'd like to see a comparison between Vegan and Carnivore diet.
@MS well there is a need, to actually have a scientific study to show the carnivoire diet is not harmful and is actually good for you. We know it, but there is not the propaganda behind it like the vegan diet has.
@MS I personally would prefer to have studies showing why veganism is hurting humans, bring it.
@@dana102083 Veganism isn't hurting humans. You can be a vegan and eat vegan junk food, such as the Impossible Whopper, and that is almost as bad as the SAD diet. Or you can be a vegan that is mostly plant-based, and cook your own meals and eat food that doesn't have crap in it(when eating out). If you are saying that because you believe that vegans are not getting the nutrients they need to survive, then you would be false. Protein can come from things such as beans, legumes, tempeh, and leafy greens. Calcium comes from nut-milks that are fortified, and nut-yogurts as well. Everyone should be eating the recommended amount of servings of fruits and vegetables a day. Being healthy is achievable for any person whether they choose to eat a plant-based diet or not. Sorry if that sounded like a lecture, no hate from me to you, just the truth😀
@@mileyrogers06 no i think plant based people hate humans because they dont encourage eating meat, to get the heme iron and b vitamins in the accessible forms required by our body... To encourage others to not get what is necessary for human health and discourages brain health. And the fact that they wont put their own health before another animal is antievolutionary and discouraging critical thinking which makes us human. Its plant-assed backwards, antihuman and outright nasty to encourage it. Please keep it to yourself as its harming people.
@@dana102083 Not all vegans put animals above their own lives, in fact there are many plant based people that do it solely for their health, and many of them do the research of how to get all of the nutrients needed for humans, so they aren't being irresponsible. It is true that there are vegans that are deficient in things like B-12 and heme iron, but that is because they aren't eating properly for their chosen diet. Vegans will also take supplements if they know that they are deficient in some vitamin or mineral, so that they are truly staying healthy.
Its not just about getting "swole", its about avoiding coronary heart disease, stroke and diabetes.
Well thats how theyre marketing it. And you can avoid those without cutting out animal products. Im a healthy omnivore, for example. You dont have to fear monger when you really just want to guilt trip. You dont need to be extreme to make a point.
@@zztopz7090 Its not fear mongering when its true; eating the amount of meat that normal Americans eat will cause heart disease, stroke and diabetes in a significant portion of the population
@@TheOMGPudding Meat is classified by the WHO as a Group 2A carcinogen. How can you say "healthy omnivore diet". Processed meats are even worse at a class 1 carcinogen. Don't listen to your doctors about what to eat, they aren't nutritionists and have no idea what they're talking about in this regard.
@@randomgamingstuff1 those studies were epidemiological studies that depended on someone being honest about their diet. Also based on even by their own admission "limited evidence". Other studies have said there is no or reduced risk of cancer
@@prodigalbrock and which studies are those? I never mentioned any specific studies. Although there are some randomized studies that show similar findings, I think what you'll find is that the studies that show no risk are weak epidemiological studies or studies that cherry pick the 2 out of 50 other studies that show no risk. After this stage, the epidemiological studies that favour meat consumption are even more unreliable than those other epidemiological studies.
Almost choked on my VEGAN PIZZA watching this 😂😂😂 Did he say all vegans eat healthy, do yoga and mediate, or did I drink too much beer for tonight?
Mia Murphy go back to eating your vegan pizza. This conversation is clearly too advanced for you
@@lkb4781 Damn dude. Way to be disrespectful af for absolutely no reason.
yep, shit ton of junk food vegans these days
Mia Murphy 😂
@@starbeautiful8 He did not say that. People really do hear what they want to hear. In this video he's talking about how a lot of these studies are conducted in such a way that doesn't really prove anything, and yet people use the data to make exaggerated statements or false claims. As an example, he used how vegan studies will use test subjects with an overall healthier lifestyle and compare them to subjects eating the standard American diet. So the studies purposely pick vegans who are healthy. Almost every diet out there has a copious amount of "data" that supports their theory...which is why it's hilarious when you see people having data wars on youtube because this guy is making the point that most of these studies are full of crap. For so long people used data to say that if you ate after a certain time you'd gain weight...and in reality they were using test subjects who ate beyond their calorie needs and gained weight from blowing their calories. When intermittent fasting became popular, the nay sayers repeatedly repeated that data...which made no sense because there's only one true way to lose weight, maintain weight, and gain weight...which has to do with how many calories you take in versus how many you burn...and it has absolutely nothing to do with what time of day you eat. I love this video because it truly speaks to why so many people are so confused. It reminds me of Michael Pollan's point about people needing to seek professional advice about what to eat when it should just be innate knowledge since we've been doing the act of eating since the beginning of time.
The last 30 seconds were pure gold.
Had me in bits. There's a video of fishermen looking like they are helping a fish as it has something stuck in it's stomach and they pull out a small plastic bag. In it there is a note that said the same thing and I cried laughing.
Gotta keep the #Epsteindidntkillhimself hash tag going. These bastards cannot be allowed to get away with this!
Well done Z!
Do not talk to a "nutritionist". There are no standards for that designation. If you want professional advice concerning your diet, speak to a Registered Dietician.
Dieticians are actually worse. They are taught by the food industry that sponsors the schools and the backers actually write the curriculum and provide the "science" to the dieticians. Can't trust them either.
@@redlinegaming3612 20 years ago I was diagnosed with Breast Cancer. I attended a workshop conducted by an RD who recommended we switch from butter to margarine. Almost every woman in the audience knew this was bad advice. Only the RD was in the dark.
@@sectionalsofa This! Show me a nutritionist that recommends margarine or soy.
As a type 2 diabetic my registered dietician told me to had porridge for breakfast, sandwich for lunch and something like baked potato or pasta with chilli con carne, no butter or cheese. And don’t skip meals! I managed not to laugh in her face!
Yeah I'm gonna go with no. That's like saying an MD is more educated than a chiropractor. Even tho chiropractors get more education than MD's, and they aren't influenced by a giant pharmaceutical company that wants to keep them sick.
There’s a difference between vegan and plant based.. 🙂 😀
Kaylee Yates Thank you!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
And both are idiotic.
@ actually no. Trump supporters like you are the problem.
@@mangozzz4487 assuming much
@ hell yes oreos and coke ca cola is vegan and derived from plants
About three months ago, I made your page notifications on my FB newsfeed to be always on top. Have never come to regret it. You are funny. You are real, doc. Keep doing what you are doing.
So much he said was correct!
But no fad for us ... Keto for life up in this joint.
Cured my type 2 diabetes (which is completely a dietary disease), and cured many other friends and family's ailments such as obesity, gastrointestinal issues, traumatic brain injury, migraines, and so on.
Ketogenics and Intermittent/Extended fasting HEALS.
GREAT VIDEO!
THANKS!
But soon, you'll need a cure for keto. It's not natural and not healthy.
Here's a list of problems you could get (I have none of them at age 52)
Keto dangers, from NCBI
Gastrointestinal disturbances (diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, constipation, GER)
Inflammation risk
Thinning hair/hair loss
Kidney stones
Muscle cramps or weakness
Hypoglycemia
Low platelet count
Impaired concentration/cognition
Impaired mood
Renal tubular acidosis
Nutrient deficiency
Disordered mineral metabolism
Poor growth in children
Skeletal fracture
Osteoporosis
Increased bruising
Sepsis, infection, bacteria overgrowth
Pneumonia
Acute pancreatitis
Long QT intervals
Cardiomyopathy
hypercholesterolemia and hypertriglyceridemia)
Heart arrhythmia
Myocardial infarction,
Menstrual irregularities
@@GaryHighFruit Sorry ...
It cures all of that.
Be well!💃💞
@@martijobarrett4527
1. You sound like a troll
2. And you guys make fun of vegans who say their diet cures everything under the sun.
3. Why would it? Why would the body going into a state of efficient fat-burning instead of glusose-burning be a cure all?? ?? ?? ?
@@GaryHighFruit
Hmmm ... Seems the troll might be the guy or gal who doesn't agree with the video and scrolls through and comments on people's posts they don't agree with.
But I could be wrong.
Because it is in our ancestral DNA to go through feast and famine.
Sugar kills.
Here's one of a million studies for you to educate yourself on.
Be well!💃💞
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2716748/
@@martijobarrett4527 I like reading people's views.
That's a big NCBI article. Can you sum it up. What I've noticed is, they're calling 24 weeks, long-term. And it's about obesity. Sure if you're under-eating, you won't gain weight. And if you're not eating carbs, your blood-work can't be too bad. But same is true if you're eating low in fat.
It amazes me how many people are gullible and take these propaganda docs as gospel (I have a few friends like this). I like how you explain things and how you point out epidemiological studies looking at things big picture stand point with multiple variables. I agree that everyone needs to do what works for them and their needs under guidance of their physician and/or nutritionist. People need to remember what is good for one person may/may not be good for another. People considering going vegan need to make adjustments to ensure they are getting nutrients they may not be getting as a result of eliminating animal products from their diet. That is one of the reasons doctors order various blood tests/studies so they can help their patients and make recommendations to make sure their patients health needs are met. To sum things up, people need to learn to think critically and quit being ignorant/gullible taking propaganda/snake oil as gospel. I am just waiting for the next batch of propaganda/snake oil to come out that some people will unfortunately choose to take as gospel.
There is one thing that is constant which is growing cows to feed beef eaters is killing our plane. It is undeniable.
Planet****
Vegan for 6 years. All my blood profiles show good health. I've had at least 4 done. I care about what I eat. Even when I was on an omnivore diet I still took a multivitamin. Now I take one every 2 or three weeks. You can't be lazy if you go vegan. You have to be on it every day, but the rewards are superb. Never felt so good and also feel totally liberated. I recommend the documentary 'What the Health'. Believe me, I am not gullible. I have done my homework.
I think the best way is self experimentation. Particularly since what legitimate studies which have been conducted seem to show a high level of variance based on the individual anyways(Insulin sensitivity etc.) Try a new diet for a month and keep a journal each day. What did you eat, how many calories, how much do you weight, how are your clothes fitting, how is your energy level, and how you in general feel. If after a month you are pleased with what your journal says keep going. If not dump that diet; it might be working for some people but it doesn't work for you.
P.S. if you are going to try a more radical diet such as Keto or Vegan please study up first on how t get sufficient nutrition while on such a diet. You can really damage your body long term if your new diet is missing a vital nutrient which is quite possible with either of those diets if you don't get the information on what a special diet may be lacking and how to get the missing minerals into that diet.
Spot on!
With everyone become a self-certified nutrition guru these days, it honestly puts doctors in a fix (especially since as you mentioned in your interview with Dr. Ronesh Sinha, us doctors are barely given any training in nutrition studies during med school)
Similar content by Medlife crisis (Dr. Rohin) on a great video about the red meat research, and some more on biases in medical research.
Would recommend if anyone's interested!
Also influencers
More people die by getting hit by cars than trucks. Does that mean we should watch Monster trucks over NASCAR?
No, the dude was replaced by a doppelganger , who was then killed...cheers
So many studies account for the “healthy user bias” and still show superior health outcomes for vegan diets. Not surprised you ignored it
2nd year internal medicine resident here. I really appreciate your videos. They are motivating because it makes me realize even more so that there are sincere doctors out there like you. I love caring for my patients. Primary care is where much of change can occur in helping better our healthcare.
Cherry picking. It's not as delicious as it sounds.
To make ourselves look better than you? I like how you talk about how epidemiology studies aren't always accurate and then go on to make extreme generalizations about what vegans are like.
At about minute 6, he gets down to the essence of the problem with nutritional studies. Good job, and thanks.
That's the problem with all observational studies, especially the ones based on questionaires.
In the film you reference, they don’t compare to just the “SAD” diet as you’re talking about. They look at other athletes with healthy habits but eat meat.
Says the internist who never followed patients during a lifespan and who has no background in research. No studies have been sited in his arguments and he wants to be taken seriously. Not everyone watching this has no to minimal education in nutrition and disease over a lifespan. I cannot take this MD seriously.
Clinical Dietetic Intern here. And agreed hahaha omg the misinformation😂😂my goal is to become the Z dogg of nutrition I am lucky where I am at but some dietitians have to give patient counseling in 10-15 minutes??? Like how is any one suppose to make a personaized lifestyle change with that.
Doctor! Brilliant presentation, both informative and witty.
Even as a layman (with some scientific, though not medical, training), I've often spotted dubious methodology in reported studies. Even more often, popular reporting omits key details of how the study was conducted, so there is no way to assess the value of its findings.
It's music to my ears to hear a qualified expert such as yourself express the same kind of misgivings.
Good debunking of statistics. I'm going to throw one out there, too. Since I was born in the USA to two parents, I have a 100% chance of dying. (No one gets out of here alive)
You prolly read that in a study on the internet. Pfft. Don't believe everything you read. I'm team immortal. Get on the train. Choo choo 🚂
Ahhaah dude.. awesome video. This is put in such easy to understand terms and phrases that the general public can understand it and that’s truly needed right now. Like normal people do not stand a chance with all the terrible information they receive from the media, Netflix docs, internet in general. Thanks man!!
Iv been eating veggies since that doc and I'm defo in better shape
For tge short term you'll be fine But... Getting what your body needs from plants alone GOOD LUCK ! 👍 I did it for a year and my micro & macro nutrients were so low it drove my immune system nuts. Went Keto and Intermittent fasting ! Bloodwork came back better than when I was a teenager and now Zero joint pain.
Same here, best shape of my life after going Vegan.
Recovery is ridiculously fast now, even after a runners knee i can warm up and go again.
If this is a placebo its unbelievable.
But i know better, after eating a bit of meat again.... yea i just feel like collapsing on the couch first. What a junk food! Taste’s good tho, but vegan tastes better 👌
Anyone may decide for themselves what they eat.
Im staying away from meat and puss products.
Well, my mom is asthmatic and has arthritis and I was having back pain (from doing deadlifts very incorrectly at the gym). We both went plant based since last October 2019 and my back pain disappeared. I went from 203 lbs to 168 lbs and still losing, with lifting and hiit cardio. My mom doesn’t use the inhaler anymore. We bought an oxymonitor and I don’t know what her baseline was but her oxygenation mesures 97-99 % daily. Her arthritis pain is gone. She has her emergency inhalers and her prescriptions, but she simply doesn’t feel shortness of breath any more. I’m Dominican and we eat lots of rice and beans and in my country and when I lived there i actually ate very little meat. My plate always had more root vegetables or rice and beans and other veggies than anything else and a very tiny amt of meat. They are also using a plant based diet at Bellevue hospital in NYC to treat type ii diabetics and also at Montfiore cardiac rehab to assist in heart disease. I’ve never felt better and neither has my mom. We only supplement B12, which even meat eaters are low on and D3 because we are in the north east. It’s been great to eat a lot and not gain weight during this pandemic and have tons of energy. This is just obviously a couple of individual cases. Love zdogg, but I just wanted to mention my own personal experience with wholes food plant based diet, not junk vegan food
First of all, regarding apparent health benefits of a vegan diet, you say its not that vegans have a healthy diet, but rather that everyone else has an unhealthy diet. And then you say its not the vegan diet that makes people fit and healthy, but rather the fact that fit and healthy people are drawn to veganism. I'm thinking the vegan diet looks pretty good right now. Keep up the good work!
I saw the doc. I thought is was fascinating, informative, entertaining, and made some god damn great points. However, when all’s said and done, I also thought it was a shameless propaganda machine.
and doctors really aren't? HEHEHE how brainwashed are we human beings
@@redefinedliving5974 ?
What's wrong with propaganda? Also, what's not propaganda?
Eloquently expressed in layman's terms 💯 not all scientific studies are equal. The lack of access is major social issue. The majority of people weren't taught how to analyze a study, and many of these studies are behind a paywall anyway. The media does a good job of using this to their advantage.
It’s like you live inside my head and every video I find of yours, you have tipped another part of my brain out onto UA-cam.
I don’t have a science background, just find lots of things very interesting and love doing research. There are so many appalling documentaries that are so obviously really bad - I just don’t get how people latch on to them so easily???
They’re sensationalist, and most of what they spout is completely debunkable so easily. I’ve laughed through a lot of them, and couldn’t make it through Game Changers or Forks over Knives. As someone with a regenerative farming background, Cowspiracy is freaking pure junk nonsense (and so damaging to farmers who have more ethics in their little finger than these people).
Ex vegetarian of 30 years here. Wish there were more long term studies on the effects of this on the body - especially nutrient loss over time. Just eat real food y’all! Buy local, ethical and be kind to animals and people ❤️
First of all there’s a difference between vegan and plant-based. 2nd fake news is saying that one diet is better than another when nutrition is individualized. The problem is people pushing what agenda they follow that works for them.
1:00 no!, nutritional science is beyond the USA my dude, You can find diet studies in Iran, India, China, Japan, Europe.
YOU SHOULD ATTACH THOSE STUDIES IM GENERALLY CURIOUS AND WOULD LIKE TO READ AS A PERSON JUST STARTING TO LOOK IN ALL THIS VEGAN BUSINESS! I definitely know the pain and trauma caused to animals is wrong and I don’t think that my carelessness to what I eat should be more important than their lives, but I’m still not sure about health benefits and what not in comparison to eating meat (in a healthy way of course). Sorry this is long haha okay bye thanks
@@emilymorrison1192 I know this comment is old, but read The China Study. Good SCIENTIFIC info on diet from YEARS of study. :)
dearwallpaper thank you!!
@@xlovelydearx Ahh the good old China study, it's seriously flawed lmao
@@MyName_Jeff just giving them some info. But thanks. :)
I eat anything I like, mostly natural foods, cause my body is sensitive to processed foods and they make me quite sick.
From my "diet" or personal food preferences I usually take a break on Wednesdays and Fridays from Meat, Egg and Dairy products to eat only vegetables (boiled, salads, etc) so I manage to give my stomach a break from all that meat and dairy products.
It's not a big deal, everyone is different, we have the right to choose, our bodies function mostly different, so the best thing is to learn throught choice what your body needs and when it needs those resources.
Boiled vegetables and a few good salad options are amazing for a sensitive stomach. The tasty options, not those that taste like shit.
Bacon and dairy products are in the top of my preferences also.
Thank you so much for saying this! I’ve been screaming this to the heavens for a while.
For me veganism boils down to one simple question: If I can live a happy and healthy life without killing or exploiting other animals (or paying for it), then do I have a good reason to continue doing so?
And the logical answer is "No".
But animals kill each other.
@Budwig van Leethoven I like it. I love watching footage of lions and crocodiles hunting. I love the brutality of nature.
I would kill if I was hungry enough and there was nothing else to eat. But I don't eat something that I didn't kill, especially when there is an alternative. That would make me a pussy
He is obviously guilty of cherry picking when he is "debunking". 😴
“Standard American diet is ‘probably’ bad for you.” Seriously?!
I would say the best studies are the ones that observe how people live their every day. Not ones that are “controlled” for you to eat a certain way that isn’t in the norm. It is no secret that the way Americans eat are causing serious health problems.
These kind of videos just give people excuses to continue to be unhealthy! I hope people wake up and start thinking for themselves.
Watching this as I eat a sonic cheesecake shake 😭
#RESPECT
ZDoggMD 🤣 still under my calorie goal for the day, and gonna life weights later soooo I enjoyed all 3 million calories lol! I regret nothing!
Love cheesecake. My sonic makes the shakes too salty and too lemony.
Intelligent responses to ZDoggMD's idiocy:
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Maya Foster- Super healthy. Congrats!
THANK YOU for this. It’s disturbing how many in my BSN program can’t critically look at information and studies. This was a good vid about interpreting results in general.
I think that nurses probably get the least amount of education about how to understand scientific studies then any other health profession. Either that or they ignore it because sad to say even the nurses I respect the most still will believe in this kind of BS and actually harm their bodies with fad diets.
beadybaby I think that depends on the program and what that specific nurse has retained. I will be graduating my BSN program in 6 months and am currently in a research class. We are taught to how to critically evaluate research studies. Evidence-based learning is what we’re taught and what is being instituted in the nurse residency programs. It is being taught, but people are still people under all of the education.
@@kellyhudson6072 It's one of those things that you lose pretty quick if you don't use it. I am just going from my own experiences and it could be that the rigors of the programs in my geographic area and ones I previously worked at are just not that strong.
Kelly Hudson It really does depend on the program. My current RN to BSN program has two full three credit classes on how to read research papers and evaluate them and how to use them to develop solutions. But I was in those classes, and if you didn’t bother to do the work or try, you’re not gonna learn that.
beadybaby that’s completely false. My RN-BSN was 6 years, and I took two solid years of Nutrition as required courses. This was in addition to 4 years of A&P and one year of Patient Education which included thorough overviews of the USDA, the AHA and the ADA recommendation guidelines.
I'm an RN. I used to work at a nursing home with several centerian residents. None were on a special diet and said they had bacon,eggs,and coffee for breakfast their whole lives. They also had a great outlook on life
klamb12
Well then , Bacon & Eggs it is.
George Burns smoked 10-15 cigars a day and lived to 100 , so might as well smoke too.
There’s always gonna be exceptions.
Diaobesity , heart disease and some cancers are undoubtedly a result of some people’s nutritional choices. It’s your right to choose.
I don't think Z Dogg MD realizes that Oreos and Coca Cola are both vegan. Perhaps he could show how people eating a "healthy" omnivorous diet stack up against both a whole foods plant-based diet as well as a standard american vegan diet (basically a vegan diet with a bunch of processed foods).
Edit: Peep this study www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21411506
They compared Adventists who were vegan to Adventists who were not vegan, and the vegans still had better health outcomes. Get rekt.
Out of curiosity, have you watched "what the health"?
Ivan Muchiutti - ZDogg did a video on what the health and it was Hilarious 😆 he was soooo mad. I recommend Googling ZDogg what the health
I watched it but when i realized they’re trying to shove their vegan diets in our faces i stopped watching.!
Fake nonesense.. it's exaggerated.
@Charles Marvin the shit part of any died is the high carb, fast glycemic foods. That is why the americans are obese, not because they're not vegan. Wake the fuck up indeed.
That is a cherry picking antivax karen loving documentary
You're right on. Healthcare 3.0 must be about preventative care, nutrition / diet and all the above. But turning data into information and then - information into actual knowledge is where the cogs of the political machine, interest groups and industry interfere.
We must change our politics first. I know how to start. I suspect you do too Dr. Z. Let's start their.
If your going Vegan do it right, Oreo Cookies are Vegan too.
Clarissa 1986 your statement is ignorant, and multiple peer reviewed medical studies back up that a whole food plant based diet is healthy.
Vegan youtubers with GEDs will make a video debunking this .
Vegans talk about doing yoga at parties to make selves feel bigger then you. LOL. Apart from being wildly generalised and discriminatory you were just talking about cherry picking a mere moment previous. I’d like to see the study on that.
Hahaha! I died when he did that Arnold Schwarzenegger impression! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Well, eating whole food plant based-cutting out added oils & dairy makes me feel much better. Having a preponderance of vegetables (which cutting out all this stuff forces you to do) just ups my health. Eating Atkins (which is now called Keto) always makes me feel crappy & I just can't do it. Screw every one elst (plus, I'm not woke-I'm a deplorable)
Atkins and keto are not the same.
This is his point, do what makes you feel the best and gives you the best health results, but the science to say "this is the one right way to eat" just isn't there and anyone who claims there is is selling you lies.
footballs players that have converted to vegan diets during the prime of their careers have gone down hill were never the same.. Arian Foster and David Johnson
Cam Newton
U done a really good job of explaining that to average joes . That's a talent in itself being able to do that
Go find people in Weight Watchers meetings and ask them if they think clothes brands sufficiently cater to larger people. When they answer ''No'', come up with a statistic that 100% of the public think 100% of brands do not cater to large-sized people. Doctored studies to drive particular interests. When I want to know about nutrition, I consult professionals, not ''media''.
I wish I could project this video on a t shirt and walk around with it.
Maybe a picture of Goebels extolling the virtues of 'said diet', with ' trust me ' written underneath !
Just open your eyes, you know most of what you eat is not good for you. Cattle in dirt with no grass, Chicks in a cage there whole life. Cut open a tomato if it's not red its not ripe but that's what you will find in the store. Find better food!
Excellent explanation of how epidemiological studies are misused!
"Nutrient intakes in 94 Japanese centenarians investigated between 1972 and 1973 showed a higher proportion of animal protein to total proteins than in contemporary average Japanese. 2. High intakes of milk and fats and oils had favorable effects on 10-year (1976-1986) survivorship in 422 urban residents aged 69-71. The survivors revealed a longitudinal increase in intakes of animal foods such as eggs, milk, fish and meat over the 10 years." 1992 article title: Nutrition for the Japanese elderly by Hiroshi Shibata.
Unfortunately I’m disappointed in this one.
Everything you have against the docs that are “lying” is opinionated. As in the docs the has sources to back them up and spoke to many docs and professionals. They backed up what they said but you had no sources. They only thing I agree with is it’s difficult to take a data from what ppl eat because it is hard to control what people eat. But the sources and facts are there from both docs. One being “The game change” & the second being “What the health”
So much distraction and money interests in manipulating popular opinion. This is such a complex topic but also endless confusion. All vegetables are not equal and that doesn’t even touch the chemicals used in production or the quality of dirt they grow in. We eat to much crappy food. Crappy meat crappy vegetables to much sugar not enough essential minerals. Not all salts are equal etc. I don’t feel like this video gave any clarity for me just more confusion. My opinion is it’s more about what we don’t get in our diet then the stress we put on our bodies with what we do get.
I have to say, I’m from Europe and I’m vegan for 7 month now. I still smoke and I’m not a health vegan. I eat burger and pizza as I did before. But tbh I have more energy now. My motivation is crazy right now. I stand up at 5am to got to gym what when someone told me before I called them crazy. I put my energy and motivation into building a business and opens my first own salon this month, what I told my mom I would neeeever do. I think veganism do something more to you than just health stuff. It’s good karma and ethical right. You sleep better, you feel better, I’m more concentrated, my skin looks better, my hair never was that healthy. I don’t know. I was a meat eater for 32 years and went vegan over night just to challenge myself. Wasn’t even challenged me. It was the easiest and best challenge I ever did.
Free country, eat, drink and say what you want. My late husband fought in a war to protect your right to do so.🇺🇸
Peace💚
Well you're also free to die from an heart attack at 45
.....which war? .....what right? Ever asked him how many did he kill?
For a fascinating look at the history of nutritional guidelines and study biases read "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teicholz.
All I know is that i feel better eating veggies and eggs. Does this diet have a name?
That was quite eye-opening.
It never occurred to me how these studies are actually conductued.
Thank you
Veganism is a great elimination diet if you are coming off of the SAD. But long term the health consequences are even worse. The problem is that most vegans eat way too much sugar, and they crave junk food just like any of us. And believe me, coming from a former vegetarian there is A LOT of junk that passes as vegan that is heavily marketed to us! For the average person with the average income, you can't beat a well balanced omnivore diet that includes fish and organ meats.
What do you think about the documentary “what the health” and it’s information?
he destroyed it in another video
he really angered the vegan faithful by poking fun at it
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It's just like sociology. You have to look at all the factors and how these conclusive surmised answers were even produced in the long run.
I dont care. 14 football players on the same team, lifters, runners, cycle, fighters. Manly azz, tough azz, stronger azz people telling u they dont eat meat. Hmm hell right I'll take notice and listen to wait they say.
Most of the quit from poor performance and injuries
No one is saying plant-based is a superior diet for athletes. What they are saying is that a plant-based diet is not necessarily INFERIOR to other diets which contain animal products. If we do it correctly, with just some basic knowledge, we can thrive on plant-based nutrition. It's not even that hard, and it has multiple benefits. There is no reason to avoid it if you are concerned about health and fitness. In fact, it is mostly beneficial for us, and together with the other reasons for doing it (animal well-being, environmental issues)... Let's do it!
You make light about the suffering and abuse of animals in your little rehearsd speach and this ruined any credibility you may have had. We had to arrest a worker in a slaughter house on a warrant issued and if you witnessed what we did you would never eat meat again. These poor innocent creatures were abused,proded,shocked to keep them moving to their death and then shot with a nail gun and while hanging on a hook still dying they began skinning this baby.
Netflix lying?! Please, say it isn’t so !
I am new and sub to your channel because of this debunking vid and how right you are !! You are the second person who have explained rationally of what’s wrong with this doc ie Game Changer so thank you for making it surreal too
"Vegans are some of the most health conscious people on the planet" you clearly don't know many vegans. Most of the ones I know eat a lot of processed food.
Still haven’t disproven Dr Caldwell Eselstyn heart study ... waiting for that.... still waiting
Your right I was looking for some real facts I found nothing.
@Yasin Jadauji Sounds like a fun family outing
Hierarchical logistic regressions can isolate specific risk factors. Of course, the study needs to be structured appropriately. Point is, you can't say to just throw out studies that are not RTCs. I agree with the general point about diets, though. But to call these studies "fake news" is a bit too much.
Dr. Damania should debate Dr. Michael Greger
I was listening whilst walking and stopped to subscribe because you deserve it.
Such clear insightful, no bull, logical content.
Good job.
My wife and I have been whole-foods plant based for 8 years, we cook and eat an amazing diversity of real food all home made with ease.
It’s not hard , we don’t see what the big deal is.
We usually choose to not talk about it because it’s as controversial as politics and religion, so to each his own.
But if you want double blind placebo controlled studies then you should Check out nutritionfacts.org
Dr. Michael Greger
Maybe you should interview Dr. Greger.
Generally trusting anyone who is selling you a book is not a good idea. Also, these are standard nutritional studies, not double blind placebo controlled, because that is not possible and doesn't really represent any real world environments/diets.
All is information is free on nutritionfacts.org
The studies are all there and have been for years and years. Choose for yourself.
@@waynelarnold I went there, I looked up the plant based diet video, I looked at the references for the video. No clinical trials. There was a systematic review, checked the references on that, very limited clinical trials that fail for all the reasons Zdogg mentions in this video. Its not a bad site, but it is perpetuating the bad science that this video is about. Maybe "bad" is too strong of a word, it promotes unscientific claims about limited science. Thats why it is best to go to professional groups that have no agenda other than health of the patient. AAFP doesn't have an agenda, and are going to make generalizations that can be strongly proven. That is a more accurate and understandable recommendation for people.
THANK YOU!💚
How do you blind participants to their diet?
I eat wholesome food. I shop, wash and cook my meals and hardly touch processed food at all. My diet is high on fibers, enough (plant based or animal) protein, but no added sugar. A treat once or twice a week is OK. A treat is a treat, not a meal, that’s my motto.