So glad they have brought this car out in the UK. When I was a teen I had the 205Gti, which was super fun. Got a 208gti in 2013, and again it is a brilliant fun drive, however, I do feel like a bit of a boy racer in it now I'm a 38 year old bloke. I think this looks a perfect step up for a more mature driver who has a nostalgic love of Peugeot sports cars.
This is probably the best GTI hatch money can buy at the moment. Perfectly balanced for every day driving yet with true racing flair (forged pistons, lightweight connecting rods, mechanical limited slip diff, special composite front brake discs, etc.) vs the simple CPU reprogramming seen on a Seat Leon Cupra or Golf GTI 230 i.e. To me interior looks fantastic yet the biggest flaw would be those impressive lightweight 19" rims which display a fake directional design (easy to replace by prettier aftermarket hardware though).
+John McCann i just came from the international car salon in Lisbon, this one was there, the Megane RS has there and the New Type R, the type R looked like the best track car, the seats were very suportive but i needed a lot of enfort to came out of the car, the megane is better on this but the interior is dated and not refined is also a bit to hard, the 308 for me has the logical one, the seats give tonnes of support i just felled like i has being hug by a gentle person, tied but confy, i would see myself using it as a daily driver and i has 5 door a big boot, leather interior whit great finish and tonnes of extras...
As a french guy living in Germany, I must admit that I'm not used to hear from a german so much good things about Peugeot :D The difference between the car culture of the french and german manufacturers is never-ending discussion with my colleagues :D But I do agree with the conclusion of this great and very detailed review: Peugeot really ups their game with this new 308 GTi. I'm really impatient to try/buy it, but probably in second hand :) Great job with the video!!
+Autogefühl I fully agree Autogefuhl makes some really great reviews, very detailed and balanced, they must be proud about that. From now I will watch Autogefuhl first for a new review even if I am french too.
As a Turkish guy living in Germany, I don't really care what other people say about French cars. Seriously now, the design on the Peugeot is so much better than the golfs.. Especially the small steering wheel is amazing. I had 1 hour to drive this car and it's just amazing. I bought it and it'll be delivered in 2-4 months :( Can't wait to have this car. Here in Germany the 308 is rare. Only saw this GTi 1 time in my city and forget about the golf GTi. You see that car on every corner. Or the Leon cupra ...
Great Car A Golf GTI with similar equipment (Performance edition,Navigation, 19 Inch, 4Doors, Keyless) cost the same. But in the Peugeot you Got awesome seats, a lighter Car, more Power, and ofcourse the great interior design and the small steering wheeeeeeel :) And you will beat every normal Golf Gti on the street :D so Great bonus fun factor
You're spoiling us with great reviews! 👍I think Peugeot is on the right track again finally, both exterior and interior looks really good! My first car was a 205, will never forget it, really good car 😃 Thanks again Thomas!
Instrument pannel in this car is deliverately placed as far as possible from the driver. As with Peugeot 208 and 2008) -The further the instruments, it takes less effort for the driver's eyes to focus on the information and re-focus on the road. Also, while looking at the instrument pannel, you can still read the road ahead as you are less out of focus than in conventional cars with closer and lower instruments. It has all been done deliverately for the reasons of safety and for the pleasure of driving. Well done Peugeot for being the first to adapt such innovative and pioneering driving position.
+bogdan135 So its about who is the best driver here? ;-) You obviously see how many cars I have tested so far. Indeed this manual gear shift here is not the best one. I dont need to prove to anyone that I can shift and drive on the racetrack.
Sorry if I seemed rude; I'm actually agreeing that manual would be a good option. You will be able to access more of the car's performance--just an observation from your driving style. No, I don't expect every reviewer to drive like Chris Harris (who has tons of racing xp), in fact it's good to see cars driven by average drivers.
@@autogefuehl its not about the driver... but you can't shift! power shifting at 4k ? I know that the shifter has actually a long throw but please don't blame it for your lack of shifting skills. Otherwise, nice review
This design is pushing 9 years but still looks fresh. Peugeot compromised too much to have a large boot to the detriment of rear leg room. If they had the rear seat back a few cms the boot still could have been one of the biggest in the class with more leg room.
Congratulations on your 308 GTi review. A trully detailed review of a truly great car for the road! Peugeot is finally back on track. The design of the car is simple and elegant with tiny details most people will not even notice (check the 'floating' LED lenses in the headlights) whereas in silver colour the reverse light cluster is virtually hidden, i.e. you can only see a red c-shaped light cluster. It might not be the most practical car, but it is easy to live with and very comfortable for long journeys and in GTi /Blue HDi forms very economical in relative terms. I have owned a 308 BLueHDi and am now a 308 GTi owner. This is an amazing car for the money. Thomas and Autogefuhl team, thank you.
I never thought I would one day see you test driving a car at the V. Sameiro circuit in my hometown Braga! I guess it really is a small world we're living in after all...
I just drove today a car like this from a friend and i must say it is awesome and really fast ,interior is incredible and the gear box is really fast and smooth..great car
Thomas and colleagues, thanks again for your sterling efforts and reviews. Even though this was an older one (you look sooo young lol), was still very informative as always. I could watch Autogefuhl all day!
Great review as always. It looks like you love this car, both from a perceived quality and driving perspective (better to drive than the RR you tested few days ago!). Thanks for all driving focused comments, along with all the details about quality we all love. It looks like a good entry in hot hatch segment.
Sexy while elegant. The wheels are amazing. I do not understand why more GT's aren't hatchback in America. So much fun, while having plenty of cargo space. On the interior, that has to be the most unique gauge cluster and steering wheel I've ever seen. So, you have to look over to see the gauges?? Love the red colored gauges. And, is the tachometer moving in the opposite direction of the speedometer?
+gbriank1 it really is unique. the anticlockwise rev meter is also seen in Aston Martin cars. Peugeot say it is a matter of ergonomic design. In my opinion they just did it as a Unique Selling Point. Either way it works and no matter what journalists and testers say...you get used to it within a week. The rest is just..moaning because everything 'has to be' where it usually is'. This design eliminates the need for a heads up display.
i was so into buying a rcz but, thanks to you now i relly consider it, thank for showing us that the quality of the car is not so good like that interior door handels that make noise and that arm rest that shakes, among other things, i really love your reviews. keep up the great work
I don't think this is the last model they will make. I think they'll come out with a more hardcore version, probably around 300hp and more sporty suspension, something like a 308R.
It's always interesting watching a review of relatively affordable cars. But still, I guess this version won't the one that gets most part of the sells. You could make a series of videos choosing the best cars for -20K €, 20k to 30k €, 30k to 40k €, etc.
Your were talking about pushing the boundaries on the race track, but I didn't see you doing so. You were going pretty slow around the corners, you could have pushed it a little more, make the tires scream and force some oversteering to see how the car acts in those situations. Nevertheless a very good overview of the car's features
+frankjs2105 It's obvious the guy doesn't have performance driving training or racing/track experience. Not sure pushing limits with his skill set is gonna be productive (or safe)
Magnificent review as usual, Thomas! I'm in the market for a hot hatch and right now I've managed to end up with final offers for the Ford Focus ST, Seat Leon Cupra and Peugeot 308GTi. Basically same price and similarly spec-ed. What would you choose from these three and why? BTW I'd like to see more comparison videos here on Autogefühl, as you're always doing excellent work.
+George Eisikovits thanks george! Have you seen our reviews for Focus ST: ua-cam.com/video/RdFkKl6fO5I/v-deo.html and Leon Cupra? ua-cam.com/video/aCF0KER8mFo/v-deo.html Also check out the Golf GTI: ua-cam.com/video/s3EL0umq11c/v-deo.html
Yes it is.Portugal is a very very beautiful country. Next time you should do citty testing inside of Porto and you will have Epic Shots! We are hard working people, excellent hosts, the food is wonderful, so please pass that knowledge to your governors, because they are making it very difficult for us ;) ... Having said that. Very good review, very clear and informative. Wish you had pushed a little bit more on track so that we could see the behavior of the car on the limits. Still there is enough info to understand the differences (besides the hp), to the GT model. Thumbs up.
Its interesting that he should like the small steering wheel as some other reviewers have criticised it as being too small. 270bhp is impressive from a 1.6 but I think the looks are very conservative and they could have made it look more different to the standard 308. I will be interested to see what they do for the planned 308 R.
i really like 308gt even went for a test drive and loved it, only thing that i couldn't get used to is small steering wheel so this new 308gti could only be better, maybe with more time with the car it is possible to get used to the small steering wheel
+TheTonicro what i heard from people that have 208/2008/308 is that it just takes a few days to get used to it after that the problem is driving a normal one...
I wish the exterior was a little more exaggerated. It just feels like they put big exh pipes in the back & thats it. Then again the french never were my cup of tea. :) I believe it could look a lot more bad ass! Peugeot Sport will probably never have the same 'awe' feeling as an Audi RS, Merc AMG or BMW M series in my opinion. I always loved their red interior lights though, those are awesome when driving at night! Makes it feel a lot more sporty!!
Great autotest again.. This is the best Peugeot they make.. how do you find the odometer kloks, did you have a good sight on it and do you prefer de Seat leon Cupra, Ford focus ST or the Peugeot?
Hey Thomas, you need to be in Portugal more often with your reviews! You're welcome! Braga, so close from me... As always, very nice review. For me, best car journalist around. I don't like too much the touchscreen in the peugeot. It's a little "punch feel" and despite it is intuitive, the look don't follow de "interior charm".
Very Nice Video Thomas , Happy New Year .. I Like the Colour , It seems like its well balanced in the corners I love the steering wheel too, Yes that Rev counter will take some getting used to .
Nice review, Thomas. Good looking ride. I'll take the Golf GTI however in spite of the HP deficit. Did you ever get used to seeing the tachometer spin the other way?? Portugal looks very nice even in the wet. You get all the fun!! I know you work hard, however. Saluti.
+Miotrix Vielen Dank! Oh, darüber muss ich mal nachdenken - vielleicht können wir eine Digital-Version auf Facebook bereitstellen :) Schick uns doch über Facebook mal deine Mailadresse.
+Autogefühl Danke für die schnelle Antwort! Tatsächlich bin ich wohl der einzige Mensch der kein Facebook besitzt! Kann ich sonst auch eine Mail an die Redaktion senden mit dem Betreff "Autogramm"? Liebe Grüße, Mio
Thanks for the great video! Sympathic car with character! And almost perfect! I like the 308 very much, also in the standard versions. Recently I had a Peugeot 208 Allure as a replacement car when my 208 was at the inspection. I didn't like the aluminium gear stick, because it feels cold anytime you touch it. Very similar to that one in the 308 GTI. The position of the instruments is perfect in my opinion. You almost have a head up display. The revmeter however Peugeot should change with the next facelift. I agree with you on that point. I use the revmeter for saving fuel. It's an important instrument and shouldn' t just for design reasons go in the "wrong" direction. Because of the big digital speedometer in my 208 I don't use the analog one any more. The same is true with the analog instrument for the fuel. The digital range in the bord computer is more important. And the instrument for the water temperature helps you to warm up the motor carefully. In the new Peugeot 3008 for example you can configurate the digital instruments. I find that very good. Sooner or later that probably will also come in smaller cars. All in all a very good and fair video. Thank you! A personal question at the end. How much influence do you as the head of Autogefühl have on car manufacturers. Do they ask you, do they listen to you and maybe change certain aspects of their present and future cars because of your influence?
thanks! On the Events, we often meet with high executives, engineers etc. So indeed we can give a good feedback and also hints what to change. ua-cam.com/video/mtU5lErvXdY/v-deo.html
Autogefühl So it's also import to give you feedback and tell you as every day users what we like ( or don't like) about our cars. And I have already realized that you read the comments carefully and let them influence your videos. Thank you, man!
There is a thing peoples have to know, in France the very first point that the customers are looking at is the price of the car (it's why the micro's and compact's cars are very developped) and the second one is the fuel consumption (it explain why we have a lot of 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 liter engine). So what can we do to make our cars distinct to the other one? The style, the design, the goodies. We have very good engineers in our country but they can only work in a small "cahier des charges". It's the reason why we can only fight with Opel, Ford, Fiat, Toyota, etc. And I think we are better than them, except Ford maybe.
Did I hear the gear box making unhealthy noises repetedly when you shifted quickly? If so, that should be a very negative point for a hot hatch. Good review btw. You could have gone faster on the circuit though...
+Ronald de Rooij I heard it too... But I think Thomas was accelerating while shifting. Not quite sure Thomas is a professional driver 😁 eventhough I love his reviews.
Autogefühl just had a look and apparently they are Denon sound system and in the extras options the only thing mentioned is the sos/road assistance and the pan roof so I'm guessing it's standard ❤👌
Was hälst Du vom Motor? Ich persönlich bin da doch sehr skeptisch, aus 'ner 1,6l Maschine 270 PS rauszhuholen. Das kann doch auf Dauer nicht gut gehen oder liege ich da falsch? Ansonsten ein sehr schönes Auto!
nur das es kein normaler 1.6 ist die haben so einen krassen motor gebaut das der auch mit 1.6 litern genauso gut hält wie jeder andere auch vielleicht sogar besser
Hi Thomas, can you tell me how is Peugeot Company doing, i mean is it ok to buy Peugeot cars as i really don't know how do they fair with other competitors , but i love the 308 GTI , why there are no pedal shifter's for GTI model as VW has for its Golf.
+Autogefühl ,I mean in durability as well as the position of Peugeot in the market in terms of sales compared to other competitors. Thanks for replying to my Comment this shows that you are very active channel and the best one.Merry Christmas to your entire team and wish your team an advance and happy new year.
Bonjour cher Autogfhül ;) Merci for this great review ! In France, this Peugeot 308 Gti is available only with 270thp (finally Not bad) but in Germany, is It the same ? ^^
Autogefühl Wow you're amazing. Not only you're respectful toward French cars and any other non-German cars, you can also speak their languages thus respecting every culture possible. Plus you perfectly pronounce French brands name. The different is so contrasted if we compare you to certain ignorant British review magazines
In my country test drives are kinda pointless. For one, you can't find a hot hach as a test car, and even with regular cars, they ask you nicely to shift up at 2000. I wish I could drive cars like this, but spending this kind of money on a small car is too much for me without a test drive.
Ich fände es interessant wenn ihr"alte" Autos mal testen würdet also auch die Golfs und Passats von 2000- 2010 oder so. würde meinen Passat zur Verfügung stellen. meine ich ernst!
+Timo Ta Habe ich auch schon mal drüber nachgedacht. Das Problem ist in der Tat, die Autos zu bekommen - und dann eine repräsentative Aussage zu machen über das gesamte Modell, weil ja auch jeder Gebrauchtwagen anders ist. Man könnte es nur als einzelne Betrachtung machen quasi just for fun - danke für das Angebot schon mal, interessant ist es auf jeden Fall :)
***** Es ist ja auch jeder Neuwagen anders (Ausstattung etc) wenn der gebrauchte aber technisch gut ist würde das eigentlich gehen. Dann kann man auch Bezug zu den aktuellen Modellen nehmen und zum Beispiel den real Verbrauch vergleichen- da hat sich in den letzten Jahren meiner Meinung nach nämlich so gut wie nix getan
+philip s (Dishano) The French make the best racing small engines, and this one in particular by Peugeot Sport puts to shame any German hatch under 40.000€ not to mention the best compromise between sportiness and comfort on front-wheel drive dynamic vehicles in the market without the need of cumbersome and expensive adaptive suspensions. Get your facts straight.
+Reny Bruehl I was expecting this comment... Note that Golf Mk 1 did the same thing like 10 years earlier than Peugeot, and that VW still makes craking hot hatches.
You can say the golf was the 1st GTi (even if the 1st one was a Maserati), but the 205 was the better one. Even here in Germany many specialists agree. And the Golf GTI came 8 years before the 205. Still Renault made hot hatch 12 years before VW with the R8 Gordini, and still do better nowaday, NSU 9 years before with the TTS, and Simca 6 years before with the Simca Rallye. And still a 205, 309 GTI/S16, 306 GTI6 are more fun to drive than any Golf GTI. If you want a hot hatch you don't buy a VW with electronic everywhere that you can't disable when you go on track. You buy a Ford Focus, A Renault Megane, a Peugeot 308, BMW 1er or other kind of car that have a real chassis, and way more fun than a Golf/Scirocco. Go to the Nurburgring or any other track, you 'll see more megane RS, or Ford Focus ST/RS than any Golf GTI or R.
+Reny Bruehl I absolutely agree with you, VW' s tend to be restrained when it comes to driving it on a track, but try to live with Renault Megane RS everyday. You will soon noticed that the ride is way to firm for everyday roads, particulary the ones in UK. The second thing is that the engines that VAG is producing are masterpiece and are far ahead of those you' ll find in any other car you named in the comment above... And remember, the GTI means that a car should be great grand tourer, not racer' s car.
Well that what it means now you're right, but not really back in the 70's, 80's. Regarding VW engines, and regardless of the trouble they have with Diesel, their gasoline engine are far to be masterpiece nowadays. They used to build strong engines (1,8L, 5 cylinders to name a few), but that's a good decade ago. In terms of reliability VW are actually behind Peugeot, Renault, Ford, even Fiat, and obviously far behind japanese. The TSI/TFSI engines had some many trouble with turbo, cylinders, timing chain, huge oil cuonsumption etc... Added with DSG trouble, that's quite a lot. VW have actually to change their politic a lot, improve the quality of their products, otherwise they will destroy rapidly the good image they built since decades. I used to have a Golf 3 (TDI), and 2 Audi A4 (V6), and they were just average when it goes to reliability. The quality inside was good, but the engines, and chassis, not much reliable than other brand of the same category. I had 2 205 and a 306. The quality inside was average, but the engine never have a single problem (except heater to change twice on both 205 (Diesel, and Rallye) and 306 (D turbo), and once the alternator on the 205 with 400k km by the time but it's quite cheap).
beaver2night Grow up. Official weight figures for the 308 GTI have not been released yet but let's imagine the Audi is 100kg heavier. It still has more torque from a 2.0L engine vs 1.6L on the 308, hp is practically the same and Audi claims 5.7s vs 6 for the Peugeot. In this case AWD makes up for that ridiculous time difference because of the violent turbocharged surge in first gear. Who gives a damn about stop light burnouts anyway.
+fdhmcking Hehe ;) Für mich ist das eher ein Hinweis darauf, dass die Schaltung hakelig ist ... wie beschrieben. In einem Golf GTI wäre das nicht passiert. Dafür hat der Peugeot aber wie erwähnt auch andere Vorzüge
So glad they have brought this car out in the UK. When I was a teen I had the 205Gti, which was super fun. Got a 208gti in 2013, and again it is a brilliant fun drive, however, I do feel like a bit of a boy racer in it now I'm a 38 year old bloke. I think this looks a perfect step up for a more mature driver who has a nostalgic love of Peugeot sports cars.
This is probably the best GTI hatch money can buy at the moment. Perfectly balanced for every day driving yet with true racing flair (forged pistons, lightweight connecting rods, mechanical limited slip diff, special composite front brake discs, etc.) vs the simple CPU reprogramming seen on a Seat Leon Cupra or Golf GTI 230 i.e. To me interior looks fantastic yet the biggest flaw would be those impressive lightweight 19" rims which display a fake directional design (easy to replace by prettier aftermarket hardware though).
+John McCann i just came from the international car salon in Lisbon, this one was there, the Megane RS has there and the New Type R, the type R looked like the best track car, the seats were very suportive but i needed a lot of enfort to came out of the car, the megane is better on this but the interior is dated and not refined is also a bit to hard, the 308 for me has the logical one, the seats give tonnes of support i just felled like i has being hug by a gentle person, tied but confy, i would see myself using it as a daily driver and i has 5 door a big boot, leather interior whit great finish and tonnes of extras...
As a french guy living in Germany, I must admit that I'm not used to hear from a german so much good things about Peugeot :D The difference between the car culture of the french and german manufacturers is never-ending discussion with my colleagues :D
But I do agree with the conclusion of this great and very detailed review: Peugeot really ups their game with this new 308 GTi. I'm really impatient to try/buy it, but probably in second hand :) Great job with the video!!
+Anthony DAULHAC merci anthony!
+Autogefühl
I fully agree Autogefuhl makes some really great reviews, very detailed and balanced, they must be proud about that.
From now I will watch Autogefuhl first for a new review even if I am french too.
+arno222444
And by the way it makes your critics more credible.
As a Turkish guy living in Germany, I don't really care what other people say about French cars.
Seriously now, the design on the Peugeot is so much better than the golfs.. Especially the small steering wheel is amazing. I had 1 hour to drive this car and it's just amazing. I bought it and it'll be delivered in 2-4 months :(
Can't wait to have this car.
Here in Germany the 308 is rare. Only saw this GTi 1 time in my city and forget about the golf GTi. You see that car on every corner. Or the Leon cupra ...
Great Car
A Golf GTI with similar equipment (Performance edition,Navigation, 19 Inch, 4Doors, Keyless) cost the same.
But in the Peugeot you Got awesome seats, a lighter Car, more Power, and ofcourse the great interior design and the small steering wheeeeeeel :)
And you will beat every normal Golf Gti on the street :D
so Great bonus fun factor
You're spoiling us with great reviews! 👍I think Peugeot is on the right track again finally, both exterior and interior looks really good! My first car was a 205, will never forget it, really good car 😃 Thanks again Thomas!
I don't think that Peugeot have quite got the dashboard as good as other makes yet but it certainly looks good on the outside to earlier models
Instrument pannel in this car is deliverately placed as far as possible from the driver. As with Peugeot 208 and 2008)
-The further the instruments, it takes less effort for the driver's eyes to focus on the information and re-focus on the road.
Also, while looking at the instrument pannel, you can still read the road ahead as you are less out of focus than in conventional cars with closer and lower instruments.
It has all been done deliverately for the reasons of safety and for the pleasure of driving.
Well done Peugeot for being the first to adapt such innovative and pioneering driving position.
+TheGolfdaily Interesting fact thanks!
+Autogefühl
Glad you find it interesting.
After seeing him shift the car on the racetrack, I understand why he would prefer an auto option
+bogdan135 So its about who is the best driver here? ;-) You obviously see how many cars I have tested so far. Indeed this manual gear shift here is not the best one. I dont need to prove to anyone that I can shift and drive on the racetrack.
Sorry if I seemed rude; I'm actually agreeing that manual would be a good option. You will be able to access more of the car's performance--just an observation from your driving style. No, I don't expect every reviewer to drive like Chris Harris (who has tons of racing xp), in fact it's good to see cars driven by average drivers.
@@autogefuehl its not about the driver... but you can't shift! power shifting at 4k ? I know that the shifter has actually a long throw but please don't blame it for your lack of shifting skills. Otherwise, nice review
Filmed in Portugal, very nice choice and great review! :)
+Jorge Lopes indeed :)
This design is pushing 9 years but still looks fresh. Peugeot compromised too much to have a large boot to the detriment of rear leg room. If they had the rear seat back a few cms the boot still could have been one of the biggest in the class with more leg room.
Congratulations on your 308 GTi review. A trully detailed review of a truly great car for the road! Peugeot is finally back on track. The design of the car is simple and elegant with tiny details most people will not even notice (check the 'floating' LED lenses in the headlights) whereas in silver colour the reverse light cluster is virtually hidden, i.e. you can only see a red c-shaped light cluster. It might not be the most practical car, but it is easy to live with and very comfortable for long journeys and in GTi /Blue HDi forms very economical in relative terms. I have owned a 308 BLueHDi and am now a 308 GTi owner. This is an amazing car for the money. Thomas and Autogefuhl team, thank you.
+VArgenton appreciated, nice feedback!
It has to be the most understated looking hot hatch ever.
The brakes are beautiful as they are actually Alcon brakes used in motor racing.
I never thought I would one day see you test driving a car at the V. Sameiro circuit in my hometown Braga!
I guess it really is a small world we're living in after all...
+PrimiusLovin It is! Obrigado!
I just drove today a car like this from a friend and i must say it is awesome and really fast ,interior is incredible and the gear box is really fast and smooth..great car
Brilliant review ... As always Thomas is certainly one of the very best reviewers in the industry. This Peugeot 308 GTi is brilliant.
merci!
As always great review Thomas. Thanks for taking time out to review the car so thoroughly.
es gibt nicht ein mangel an dem auto es ist einfach perfekt
Watching in Australia. I like your style. Great review.
+Rationalist Society thanks m8 !
Thomas and colleagues, thanks again for your sterling efforts and reviews. Even though this was an older one (you look sooo young lol), was still very informative as always. I could watch Autogefuhl all day!
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Ich wusste zwar schon vorher das ich mir sehr gern ein 308 GTI kaufen möchte, aber nach deinem Review vom Auto, MUSS ich das Auto haben :)
+HardTechJohnny freut mich dass wir helfen konnten =)
Great review as always. It looks like you love this car, both from a perceived quality and driving perspective (better to drive than the RR you tested few days ago!).
Thanks for all driving focused comments, along with all the details about quality we all love.
It looks like a good entry in hot hatch segment.
+Vittore Tognetti yeah indeed that one was really nice to drive - better than the Rolls :)
i love your channel and your english too. i put on new things to my language everytime thank you :)
+gothips thanks man =)
+Milan Stankovic GT has 200 hp gti has 270 hp
The 308 i s a spectacular car since 2014 as the new version.This minimal upgrade make a good car even better.
Sexy while elegant. The wheels are amazing. I do not understand why more GT's aren't hatchback in America. So much fun, while having plenty of cargo space. On the interior, that has to be the most unique gauge cluster and steering wheel I've ever seen. So, you have to look over to see the gauges?? Love the red colored gauges. And, is the tachometer moving in the opposite direction of the speedometer?
+gbriank1 yeah its kinda strange how they are arranged ... you get used to it though. Indeed the rpms are moving the other way around !
+gbriank1 it really is unique. the anticlockwise rev meter is also seen in Aston Martin cars. Peugeot say it is a matter of ergonomic design. In my opinion they just did it as a Unique Selling Point. Either way it works and no matter what journalists and testers say...you get used to it within a week. The rest is just..moaning because everything 'has to be' where it usually is'. This design eliminates the need for a heads up display.
VArgenton Very true. My only complaint about this car is it isn't available in North America.
i was so into buying a rcz but, thanks to you now i relly consider it, thank for showing us that the quality of the car is not so good like that interior door handels that make noise and that arm rest that shakes, among other things, i really love your reviews. keep up the great work
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I don't think this is the last model they will make. I think they'll come out with a more hardcore version, probably around 300hp and more sporty suspension, something like a 308R.
Yes. They confirmed the 308R Hybrid (270 thp + 2X 115 Hp of Electric engine = 500hp !)
***** Maybe not with this exact engine's specs but a more radical version will be selled.
You chose really bad roads to test it, in Cinfão the mountain roads are too narrow an full of traffic. Greetings from Portugal, keep up the great job
It's always interesting watching a review of relatively affordable cars. But still, I guess this version won't the one that gets most part of the sells. You could make a series of videos choosing the best cars for -20K €, 20k to 30k €, 30k to 40k €, etc.
+pitthepig good idea
Really surprised by this car. Both great exterior and interior
Your were talking about pushing the boundaries on the race track, but I didn't see you doing so. You were going pretty slow around the corners, you could have pushed it a little more, make the tires scream and force some oversteering to see how the car acts in those situations. Nevertheless a very good overview of the car's features
+frankjs2105 thanks, I always take safety first. I am responsible for my family and my cameraman - thats why
+frankjs2105 It's obvious the guy doesn't have performance driving training or racing/track experience. Not sure pushing limits with his skill set is gonna be productive (or safe)
I have the blue one , best car I have ever owned, I call it beast.
I should be picking one up on saturday in blue..the best colour i think
Excellent review, congratulations.I love this car, great GTi design
+julioigna71 merci!
7.5l with this kind of driving style it's actually very good. :O
great review! Greetings from Malaysia :)
+easycozee love to hear that :) and tell your friends also to tune in Autogefühl!
Another awesome review Thomas :)
thanks a lot buddy!
Magnificent review as usual, Thomas!
I'm in the market for a hot hatch and right now I've managed to end up with final offers for the Ford Focus ST, Seat Leon Cupra and Peugeot 308GTi. Basically same price and similarly spec-ed.
What would you choose from these three and why?
BTW I'd like to see more comparison videos here on Autogefühl, as you're always doing excellent work.
+George Eisikovits thanks george! Have you seen our reviews for Focus ST: ua-cam.com/video/RdFkKl6fO5I/v-deo.html
and Leon Cupra? ua-cam.com/video/aCF0KER8mFo/v-deo.html
Also check out the Golf GTI: ua-cam.com/video/s3EL0umq11c/v-deo.html
Another awesome review Thomas.
thx!
Yes it is.Portugal is a very very beautiful country. Next time you should do citty testing inside of Porto and you will have Epic Shots! We are hard working people, excellent hosts, the food is wonderful, so please pass that knowledge to your governors, because they are making it very difficult for us ;) ... Having said that. Very good review, very clear and informative. Wish you had pushed a little bit more on track so that we could see the behavior of the car on the limits. Still there is enough info to understand the differences (besides the hp), to the GT model. Thumbs up.
+Dário Barreiro thanks for the feedback m8
as always great video great cars great landscape views and great job....keep up Thomas ich wünsche dir viel Spaß
+Βασίλειος Πράππας thx !=)
Great review! By far the best car reviews on UA-cam! Wenn you will test the new Opel Astra and Renault Megane? Greets from Belgium.
Great quality review... thanks
+Alex L. thanks Alex!
NiAgain, another amazing video. Thank you so much :)! I love the new peugeot 308, is beutifull!
+Sérgio Pires thanks sergio!
Its interesting that he should like the small steering wheel as some other reviewers have criticised it as being too small.
270bhp is impressive from a 1.6 but I think the looks are very conservative and they could have made it look more different to the standard 308. I will be interested to see what they do for the planned 308 R.
+soundseeker63 I really like the small steering wheel, its unique
I love yr review.. good work mate..
+Arif Azar thaks !
Northern Portugal? nice Thomas.
My country, you are very welcome :)
+crypticlawd obrigado!
i really like 308gt even went for a test drive and loved it, only thing that i couldn't get used to is small steering wheel
so this new 308gti could only be better, maybe with more time with the car it is possible to get used to the small steering wheel
+TheTonicro what i heard from people that have 208/2008/308 is that it just takes a few days to get used to it after that the problem is driving a normal one...
I wish the exterior was a little more exaggerated. It just feels like they put big exh pipes in the back & thats it. Then again the french never were my cup of tea. :) I believe it could look a lot more bad ass!
Peugeot Sport will probably never have the same 'awe' feeling as an Audi RS, Merc AMG or BMW M series in my opinion.
I always loved their red interior lights though, those are awesome when driving at night! Makes it feel a lot more sporty!!
Great autotest again.. This is the best Peugeot they make.. how do you find the odometer kloks, did you have a good sight on it and do you prefer de Seat leon Cupra, Ford focus ST or the Peugeot?
Very good review 👍 I have a new 308 and I love it anyway and the gti is amazing, I really want one
+tsinanb thanks m8 !
+Autogefühl you're welcome 😊 I think you had fun while driving the 308 gti :) I have same colour 308 1.6 bluehdi you can see it on my channel :)
+tsinanb nice!
+Autogefühl thanks 😊
Hey Thomas, you need to be in Portugal more often with your reviews! You're welcome! Braga, so close from me...
As always, very nice review. For me, best car journalist around.
I don't like too much the touchscreen in the peugeot. It's a little "punch feel" and despite it is intuitive, the look don't follow de "interior charm".
+Joel Araújo obrigado! =)
Very Nice Video Thomas , Happy New Year ..
I Like the Colour , It seems like its well balanced in the corners
I love the steering wheel too, Yes that Rev counter will take some getting used to .
+LEE AVISON happy new!
I'm a bit confused. Is the door truly keyless entry or must you say "hello" first?
+cody ellis I think it will rather react to 'bonjour' ;-)
Nice review, Thomas. Good looking ride. I'll take the Golf GTI however in spite of the HP deficit.
Did you ever get used to seeing the tachometer spin the other way??
Portugal looks very nice even in the wet. You get all the fun!!
I know you work hard, however.
Saluti.
+Mario Dalla Riva nah, really annoys with the other way tbh :) thanks!
"hello I'm a ski hatch" I literally laughed out loud. :)
+Jason Mi haha =)
excelent vídeo like always
Ich bin ein totaler Fan von Autogefühl! Ich hätte wirklich gerne ein Autogramm :) hehe
+Miotrix Vielen Dank! Oh, darüber muss ich mal nachdenken - vielleicht können wir eine Digital-Version auf Facebook bereitstellen :) Schick uns doch über Facebook mal deine Mailadresse.
+Autogefühl
Danke für die schnelle Antwort! Tatsächlich bin ich wohl der einzige Mensch der kein Facebook besitzt! Kann ich sonst auch eine Mail an die Redaktion senden mit dem Betreff "Autogramm"? Liebe Grüße, Mio
+Miotrix klar gerne! Adresse ist redaktion at autogefuehl de
Thanks for the great video! Sympathic car with character! And almost perfect! I like the 308 very much, also in the standard versions. Recently I had a Peugeot 208 Allure as a replacement car when my 208 was at the inspection. I didn't like the aluminium gear stick, because it feels cold anytime you touch it. Very similar to that one in the 308 GTI. The position of the instruments is perfect in my opinion. You almost have a head up display. The revmeter however Peugeot should change with the next facelift. I agree with you on that point. I use the revmeter for saving fuel. It's an important instrument and shouldn' t just for design reasons go in the "wrong" direction. Because of the big digital speedometer in my 208 I don't use the analog one any more.
The same is true with the analog instrument for the fuel. The digital range in the bord computer is more important. And the instrument for the water temperature helps you to warm up the motor carefully. In the new Peugeot 3008 for example you can configurate the digital instruments. I find that very good. Sooner or later that probably will also come in smaller cars.
All in all a very good and fair video. Thank you!
A personal question at the end. How much influence do you as the head of Autogefühl have on car manufacturers. Do they ask you, do they listen to you and maybe change certain aspects of their present and future cars because of your influence?
thanks! On the Events, we often meet with high executives, engineers etc. So indeed we can give a good feedback and also hints what to change. ua-cam.com/video/mtU5lErvXdY/v-deo.html
Autogefühl So it's also import to give you feedback and tell you as every day users what we like ( or don't like) about our cars. And I have already realized that you read the comments carefully and let them influence your videos.
Thank you, man!
Of course, so often I have told managers etc. what feedback we get from our community!
You really see the difference in quality with 50p !
full hd full screen full length! :)
***** Ja 1080p 50FPS :D Quality! Keep them coming!
There is a thing peoples have to know, in France the very first point that the customers are looking at is the price of the car (it's why the micro's and compact's cars are very developped) and the second one is the fuel consumption (it explain why we have a lot of 1.4, 1.5 and 1.6 liter engine).
So what can we do to make our cars distinct to the other one? The style, the design, the goodies.
We have very good engineers in our country but they can only work in a small "cahier des charges". It's the reason why we can only fight with Opel, Ford, Fiat, Toyota, etc. And I think we are better than them, except Ford maybe.
+Égrégore Flamboyant ford is more dinamic but can't compete in confort and finish...
+Égrégore Flamboyant What are you talking about? I'm economist. The structure of the french market is at the exact opposite.
An economist? Great! So what are your arguments?
Great Video 🇬🇧
Hey Thomas, where do you take the background music from?
Will there be a review of the new BMW X1?
Did I hear the gear box making unhealthy noises repetedly when you shifted quickly? If so, that should be a very negative point for a hot hatch. Good review btw. You could have gone faster on the circuit though...
+Ronald de Rooij Bad shifiting :P
The Gearbox is a special reinforced one, so accidentally killing it is not easy :)
+Ronald de Rooij
I heard it too... But I think Thomas was accelerating while shifting. Not quite sure Thomas is a professional driver 😁 eventhough I love his reviews.
Excellent video
love the review. definitely looking at getting one in white 👌❤ . is the sound system (audio speakers) standard?
+Hazzer thanks! That should be optional
Autogefühl just had a look and apparently they are Denon sound system and in the extras options the only thing mentioned is the sos/road assistance and the pan roof so I'm guessing it's standard ❤👌
I like this design but in my opinion it is close to vw golf doesn't it?
all-around better than a golf gti performance pack?
great review
tks ;)
thanks! See the difference for yourself: ua-cam.com/video/s3EL0umq11c/v-deo.html
Very Nice Review !!! .... :)
The future is coming with 308 R Hybrid !
Rendez-vous April 2016 !
Hello Thomas, can you guide me that this car is good for a family or not.thanke you
I would rather take a small or compact SUV or the station wagon version of a compact car, but not a hatch
Was hälst Du vom Motor?
Ich persönlich bin da doch sehr skeptisch, aus 'ner 1,6l Maschine 270 PS rauszhuholen.
Das kann doch auf Dauer nicht gut gehen oder liege ich da falsch?
Ansonsten ein sehr schönes Auto!
+h4ck0hr Finde ich auch, wie ich auch schon im Video gesagt habe, halte ich nichts davon, Motoren allzu sehr zu überzüchten
nur das es kein normaler 1.6 ist die haben so einen krassen motor gebaut das der auch mit 1.6 litern genauso gut hält wie jeder andere auch vielleicht sogar besser
Hi Thomas, can you tell me how is Peugeot Company doing, i mean is it ok to buy Peugeot cars as i really don't know how do they fair with other competitors , but i love the 308 GTI , why there are no pedal shifter's for GTI model as VW has for its Golf.
+Amar Toraskar Hey, you mean about the durability of the cars?
+Autogefühl ,I mean in durability as well as the position of Peugeot in the market in terms of sales compared to other competitors. Thanks for replying to my Comment this shows that you are very active channel and the best one.Merry Christmas to your entire team and wish your team an advance and happy new year.
l love your review
Feel free to share your experience with your friends :)
Bonjour cher Autogfhül ;)
Merci for this great review !
In France, this Peugeot 308 Gti is available only with 270thp (finally Not bad) but in Germany, is It the same ? ^^
+Wold OliviO Bonjour et merci beaucoup! Oui, c'est la meme pour l'Allemagne, seulement de 270 hp, pas de 250 hp
+Autogefühl D'accord ! Merci pour l'information :) C'est bien pratique que vous parlez français XD
+Wold OliviO je vous en prie :)
Autogefühl Wow you're amazing. Not only you're respectful toward French cars and any other non-German cars, you can also speak their languages thus respecting every culture possible. Plus you perfectly pronounce French brands name. The different is so contrasted if we compare you to certain ignorant British review magazines
..wöhnderful gearshifts at the track..! :-))
seriously different
In my country test drives are kinda pointless. For one, you can't find a hot hach as a test car, and even with regular cars, they ask you nicely to shift up at 2000. I wish I could drive cars like this, but spending this kind of money on a small car is too much for me without a test drive.
+ast5515 best way to test drive a car is to rent one for a day...
What's autobahn? You are using it in your funny english . Overall Great work 😊 I'm in love this sport model..
Autobahn is German motorway :)
can you tell me the locations you test drove? because those roads seem familiar!!
+pedro teixeira it probably was close to Braga...
can you please try/test and review the 308 r hybrid ??
+xxlevis xxlevis hey, thats still a concept car
Why have you missed Citroen C5 review? :O Or i just cant find it on your channel? :)
+petrovicdruid Didnt do that one yet indeed ... we usually concentrate on the all-new cars or the facelifts at least to show you some new stuff
+Autogefühl I hope you review it ! :D
Ich fände es interessant wenn ihr"alte" Autos mal testen würdet also auch die Golfs und Passats von 2000- 2010 oder so. würde meinen Passat zur Verfügung stellen. meine ich ernst!
+Timo Ta Habe ich auch schon mal drüber nachgedacht. Das Problem ist in der Tat, die Autos zu bekommen - und dann eine repräsentative Aussage zu machen über das gesamte Modell, weil ja auch jeder Gebrauchtwagen anders ist. Man könnte es nur als einzelne Betrachtung machen quasi just for fun - danke für das Angebot schon mal, interessant ist es auf jeden Fall :)
***** Es ist ja auch jeder Neuwagen anders (Ausstattung etc) wenn der gebrauchte aber technisch gut ist würde das eigentlich gehen. Dann kann man auch Bezug zu den aktuellen Modellen nehmen und zum Beispiel den real Verbrauch vergleichen- da hat sich in den letzten Jahren meiner Meinung nach nämlich so gut wie nix getan
Nice french car :) Not a big fan of artificial motor sound...
Have you done a review on the Peugeot 208???????????
+abel mesina hey, yes, here ua-cam.com/video/jYwce93z-r4/v-deo.html
@ Autogefuhl: This or Giulietta QV?
+sjokkomoes good question. Golf gti would be my pick :)
I prefer a car that goes beyond 50K before breaking down :) .
J/k(kind of), just dont really like the appearance of Golf nowadays.
north of portugal for sure....paços de ferreira, paredes, guimaraes???
+pedro teixeira indeed that region!
Lovely looking car but the infotainment looks so slow and buggy. Why in this day and age do cars have touchscreens that seem like they are from 2008?
Trop belle dans cette config rouge
R u paying for the tires ,put yer foot dawn
I meant Cinfães, not Cinfão. Sorry i mistyped
Stunning sightseeing view @ Serra de Montemuro - Cinfães (Portugal)
#cinfaes; #montemuro; #douro;
Seems like alot of fun this car but still... It's not German engineered :D
+philip s (Dishano) "German engineered" lol
+philip s (Dishano) The French make the best racing small engines, and this one in particular by Peugeot Sport puts to shame any German hatch under 40.000€ not to mention the best compromise between sportiness and comfort on front-wheel drive dynamic vehicles in the market without the need of cumbersome and expensive adaptive suspensions. Get your facts straight.
John McCann still ain't German enginered. Its just a baguette.
+philip s (Dishano) Better to be a baguette than a troll with too much time on their hands.
+philip s (Dishano)
Agreed it lacks a little something, probably because they don't cheat on regulations.....
5:43 German humour
=)
its too nice
definitly not a racing driver :) good review though...
The only car, worthy of the GTI badge, is Golf ...
+Klemen Levstik No it's the 205 by faaaar.
+Reny Bruehl I was expecting this comment... Note that Golf Mk 1 did the same thing like 10 years earlier than Peugeot, and that VW still makes craking hot hatches.
You can say the golf was the 1st GTi (even if the 1st one was a Maserati), but the 205 was the better one. Even here in Germany many specialists agree. And the Golf GTI came 8 years before the 205. Still Renault made hot hatch 12 years before VW with the R8 Gordini, and still do better nowaday, NSU 9 years before with the TTS, and Simca 6 years before with the Simca Rallye. And still a 205, 309 GTI/S16, 306 GTI6 are more fun to drive than any Golf GTI. If you want a hot hatch you don't buy a VW with electronic everywhere that you can't disable when you go on track. You buy a Ford Focus, A Renault Megane, a Peugeot 308, BMW 1er or other kind of car that have a real chassis, and way more fun than a Golf/Scirocco. Go to the Nurburgring or any other track, you 'll see more megane RS, or Ford Focus ST/RS than any Golf GTI or R.
+Reny Bruehl I absolutely agree with you, VW' s tend to be restrained when it comes to driving it on a track, but try to live with Renault Megane RS everyday. You will soon noticed that the ride is way to firm for everyday roads, particulary the ones in UK. The second thing is that the engines that VAG is producing are masterpiece and are far ahead of those you' ll find in any other car you named in the comment above... And remember, the GTI means that a car should be great grand tourer, not racer' s car.
Well that what it means now you're right, but not really back in the 70's, 80's. Regarding VW engines, and regardless of the trouble they have with Diesel, their gasoline engine are far to be masterpiece nowadays. They used to build strong engines (1,8L, 5 cylinders to name a few), but that's a good decade ago. In terms of reliability VW are actually behind Peugeot, Renault, Ford, even Fiat, and obviously far behind japanese. The TSI/TFSI engines had some many trouble with turbo, cylinders, timing chain, huge oil cuonsumption etc... Added with DSG trouble, that's quite a lot. VW have actually to change their politic a lot, improve the quality of their products, otherwise they will destroy rapidly the good image they built since decades. I used to have a Golf 3 (TDI), and 2 Audi A4 (V6), and they were just average when it goes to reliability. The quality inside was good, but the engines, and chassis, not much reliable than other brand of the same category. I had 2 205 and a 306. The quality inside was average, but the engine never have a single problem (except heater to change twice on both 205 (Diesel, and Rallye) and 306 (D turbo), and once the alternator on the 205 with 400k km by the time but it's quite cheap).
very bad noise...266 hp in the front??...no sense!
braga?
+pedro teixeira yeah!
Thnx F vid
when this car comin to brazil? its a joke....
slower 0-100km/h than 2006 audi s3 265hp!
+beaver2night Front-wheel drive vs all-wheel drive. Which part do you not get?
+beaver2night Yes Audi is Quattro and Peugeot FWD. At 0-130km/h or higher the 308 is faster.
John McCann all wheel drive gives extra weight, which part do you not get? the one where peugeot is slower than 10 years old car?
Reny Bruehl but still 0-100km/h slower than heavier and less power 10 y.o.car.
beaver2night Grow up. Official weight figures for the 308 GTI have not been released yet but let's imagine the Audi is 100kg heavier. It still has more torque from a 2.0L engine vs 1.6L on the 308, hp is practically the same and Audi claims 5.7s vs 6 for the Peugeot. In this case AWD makes up for that ridiculous time difference because of the violent turbocharged surge in first gear. Who gives a damn about stop light burnouts anyway.
Also fahren und schalten kann er ja ned so gut. Aber sonst gutes Video.
+fdhmcking Hehe ;) Für mich ist das eher ein Hinweis darauf, dass die Schaltung hakelig ist ... wie beschrieben. In einem Golf GTI wäre das nicht passiert. Dafür hat der Peugeot aber wie erwähnt auch andere Vorzüge