Maarten Taelman I agree. The only thing I might do is pull them back just a bit more so the panning doesn’t feel as wide. I have a pair of Sennheiser MK8 mics that I’d love to try out. Thanks for the comment! Cheers! Trinidad
Thanks! This video helped me solve some problems. Boy does it help to have a good instrument - even better to have a good player. Thanks for this. Great sound.
Cool Ryan. Glad you liked it. I keep wanting to make another short one with a different set of mics and mic placement. Thanks a bunch for your comment! Cheers!
Wow, great question and recommendation. I don't play rockabilly slap bass but LOVE watching players of this style. That being said, I would probably start with the same set up and then go from there.
thanks for the video. would love to hear the difference between horizontal and vertical stereo miking techniques. I like the wide stereo sound that you're getting with the two horizontal 103's, but most of the time that I have been recorded in studio, the engineer has placed a ribbon in front of the bridge and a condenser higher up the fingerboard. any opinions on that type of configuration?
Hi there, thank you so much for that very useful video. I am going to record a bass next week I have a Neuman U87, but only one...I have a Rhode small finger...I think I will go stereo with this pair...it worked fine with my Martin guitar so far.
That’s great. Sounds like you are pretty set up even with just the Neumann microphone. Hec, post a sample if you can. Thanks for the comment 🙏🏻 Cheers!
Excellent microphones. I have a pair and use them frequently - including on acoustic guitar. I'll try and get a video up soon on a few mic'ing examples. You can find some videos here on UA-cam also. Thanks for the post! Cheers.
Thanks for the comment Vernay. I agree with you on the 319s and 103s. I do not record with it on the stand. That just made it easier to keep the distance consistent for the video/recording.
Hi, I would definitely use 2 microphones for stereo recording an acoustic guitar. There are a variety of techniques. Use your ear. Record a sample and then listen back to the recording and make mic placement adjustments as needed. Also, keep in mind that stereo mic'ing doesn't mean you have to pan the mics hard left and right. Just make sure your panning sounds natural/recreates that guitar's natural sound. Or, just make sure it sits nicely in a mix. NEVER doubt your ears.
Thank you very much for this great Video! I'm wondering, if you could give me an advice about recording a slapped Bass in rockabilly. Do you do something special about that and does a pickup do the Job for a Duo recording or would you recommend micing? Thank you again, greetings from Germany! Hendrik
Hi Hendrik! Thanks so much for your comment and question. I'm so sorry that I'm just now answering. I've been to Germany many times and loved it! I don't have any experience recording a slapped upright bass. However, I would say to just find the best position and captures your basses tone. Particularly you actual notes. The slapping will get picked up for sure, so concentrate on the sweet spot so you can actually hear the bass notes. Do this by moving your microphone around while you play with headphones on so you can hear the different tones as the microphone is moved around. You'll likely need another person around to help you. Cheers! Trinidad
Hi ontheflybp2, I don't typically use compression on the upright bass. However, when I do, I try and make it as lite as possible and use a fast release. The upright typical had a "thump" with each pluck. If you have a slow release and are squashing it too much with the compressor, it will sound unnatural. I hope that answers your question. Thanks for the comment! Cheers!
I feel terrible that I never answered this. I hope you get this answer. I would first say to use your ear. However, you have to start somewhere, right? So, I would start with aiming them at the F-holes. Use a 3:1 ration. In other words, if your microphones are 1 foot away from the F-holes, they should be 3 feet away from each other. If they are 6 inches from the F-holes, then they should be 18 inches away from each other. Cheers!
To be totally honest I struggled to hear any difference between the first 3 mics, the pick-up was noticeably more "digital" sounding which is to be expected but for me the stereo setup is by far the best sounding setup. Great video, it's gonna be a stereo setup from now on for me, cheers!
Hey gcc420, It is a little tough to hear the difference at first. I'm certain you'll start to hear it eventually. Stereo mic'ing is fun and it doesn't have to be panned to hard left and right. I did that just for the video. You can mess with the panning and see what you get. Thanks for the kind work my friend! Cheers to you too! Trinidad
Hello Trinidad, thank you! very informative. I have a question, do you use DI box? If I want to record stereo acoustic guitar with a matched pair mics, some people suggest me to add DI box before the preamp. In that case, since it's stereo, I should get one StereoDI box right (Instead of 2 monos)? and then both channels out through XLR into the preamp.
To my ears the 319 and the 103's sound best (particularly in stereo!). I have always had good luck with AKG 414's and, of course, U47's don't stink. Do you record with the bass in the stand? That would drive me crazy, I think.
Tom Wilberforce, i hope you get this. I'm not sure why I couldn't answer your questions directly from your comment on my channel. Regarding question #1, I usually start by aiming the diaphragms at both f holes. As to quesiton #2, stereo overheads won't give you a natural sound. It will be more ambient. If you put at least 1 microphone about a foot away from the hight string f hole, then you can put overheads for ambient sound. I've never done that, however. Thanks!
Hey Darren, I hope you get this. Sorry I completely missed this. I probably could not make a rockabilly slap bass video because I can't play that style as much as I love it. That's a great idea though! Cheers!
Oh yeah, The mics that I will be using is also Oktava 012 matched pair.. I'm just slightly confused because this is my first attempt at stereo recording
Just seeing this! I've not gone back to listen. The clipping wouldn't be in my DAW as I was pretty conservative. Thank you for the comment though. Cheers!
Neuman's panned hard left and right sound really natural!
Maarten Taelman I agree. The only thing I might do is pull them back just a bit more so the panning doesn’t feel as wide. I have a pair of Sennheiser MK8 mics that I’d love to try out.
Thanks for the comment!
Cheers!
Trinidad
Thanks! This video helped me solve some problems. Boy does it help to have a good instrument - even better to have a good player. Thanks for this. Great sound.
Great info. Thanks so sharing. Stereo was my favorite!
Cool Ryan.
Glad you liked it. I keep wanting to make another short one with a different set of mics and mic placement. Thanks a bunch for your comment!
Cheers!
This video was fantastic Trinidad! Thank you so much. I've typically recorded upright in mono, hearing the stereo technique has made me a convert.
Thanks for the kind words! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You're very welcome.
Cheers!
Dude, I tried it and it was awesome. It's sounds like my favorite jazz records... even though I was recording something totally different :)
Justin Croft right on! I may be doing another in the next few month. Thanks for the comment!
Small diaphragme Oktava ! "Dark sweet" and charming texture... And obviously stéreo tracking is the best for solo... good job Thank you
You're very welcome. Thank you very much for leaving a comment!
Cheers!
Very informative! Thanks for your effort. You sound good!
Wow, great question and recommendation. I don't play rockabilly slap bass but LOVE watching players of this style. That being said, I would probably start with the same set up and then go from there.
You're welcome :-) Thanks for taking the time to comment as well as the compliments. Cheers!
thanks for the video. would love to hear the difference between horizontal and vertical stereo miking techniques. I like the wide stereo sound that you're getting with the two horizontal 103's, but most of the time that I have been recorded in studio, the engineer has placed a ribbon in front of the bridge and a condenser higher up the fingerboard. any opinions on that type of configuration?
wow cool..... i was so impressed by your playing, that i didn't concentrate on the different microphones. I have to listen again .......haha
Hi!
I'm hoping to make another one with some large diaphragm tube microphones as well.
Thanks for the compliment and comment!
Cheers,
Trinidad
Hi there,
thank you so much for that very useful video. I am going to record a bass next week I have a Neuman U87, but only one...I have a Rhode small finger...I think I will go stereo with this pair...it worked fine with my Martin guitar so far.
That’s great. Sounds like you are pretty set up even with just the Neumann microphone. Hec, post a sample if you can.
Thanks for the comment 🙏🏻
Cheers!
Excellent microphones. I have a pair and use them frequently - including on acoustic guitar.
I'll try and get a video up soon on a few mic'ing examples. You can find some videos here on UA-cam also.
Thanks for the post!
Cheers.
sounds great man :) thanks for this video
You're welcome and thank you for the comment! Cheers
Lovely in Stereo - but harder to sit in a mix. Thanks for this. I like to get a "little" piezo in there with the mic, just for added clarity.
I agree. Stereo has it's place. Likely in a very sparse production. Piezo is great for a little clarity.
Great video very informative. Thanks. Did you say you're using an API 312?
Thanks! Yes, these would have been my Brent Averil Vintage API 312 preamps.
Cheers!
Thanks for the comment Vernay.
I agree with you on the 319s and 103s.
I do not record with it on the stand. That just made it easier to keep the distance consistent for the video/recording.
Hi,
I would definitely use 2 microphones for stereo recording an acoustic guitar. There are a variety of techniques. Use your ear. Record a sample and then listen back to the recording and make mic placement adjustments as needed. Also, keep in mind that stereo mic'ing doesn't mean you have to pan the mics hard left and right. Just make sure your panning sounds natural/recreates that guitar's natural sound. Or, just make sure it sits nicely in a mix. NEVER doubt your ears.
Thank you very much for this great Video! I'm wondering, if you could give me an advice about recording a slapped Bass in rockabilly. Do you do something special about that and does a pickup do the Job for a Duo recording or would you recommend micing? Thank you again, greetings from Germany! Hendrik
Hi Hendrik! Thanks so much for your comment and question. I'm so sorry that I'm just now answering. I've been to Germany many times and loved it!
I don't have any experience recording a slapped upright bass. However, I would say to just find the best position and captures your basses tone. Particularly you actual notes. The slapping will get picked up for sure, so concentrate on the sweet spot so you can actually hear the bass notes. Do this by moving your microphone around while you play with headphones on so you can hear the different tones as the microphone is moved around. You'll likely need another person around to help you.
Cheers!
Trinidad
Thank you.
You're welcome!
Hi ontheflybp2, I don't typically use compression on the upright bass. However, when I do, I try and make it as lite as possible and use a fast release. The upright typical had a "thump" with each pluck. If you have a slow release and are squashing it too much with the compressor, it will sound unnatural. I hope that answers your question. Thanks for the comment! Cheers!
You're correct. Sorry about that folks! I'm in my new studio and may just have to recut another video.
Thanks Steve Smith for lending an ear.
Cheers!
Couple of questions:
1. For a stereo recording, do you aim the diaphragms at both F holes or at the strings?
2. Also would stereo overheads work?
I feel terrible that I never answered this. I hope you get this answer.
I would first say to use your ear. However, you have to start somewhere, right? So, I would start with aiming them at the F-holes. Use a 3:1 ration. In other words, if your microphones are 1 foot away from the F-holes, they should be 3 feet away from each other. If they are 6 inches from the F-holes, then they should be 18 inches away from each other.
Cheers!
To be totally honest I struggled to hear any difference between the first 3 mics, the pick-up was noticeably more "digital" sounding which is to be expected but for me the stereo setup is by far the best sounding setup. Great video, it's gonna be a stereo setup from now on for me, cheers!
Hey gcc420,
It is a little tough to hear the difference at first. I'm certain you'll start to hear it eventually. Stereo mic'ing is fun and it doesn't have to be panned to hard left and right. I did that just for the video. You can mess with the panning and see what you get. Thanks for the kind work my friend!
Cheers to you too!
Trinidad
Hello Trinidad, thank you! very informative. I have a question, do you use DI box?
If I want to record stereo acoustic guitar with a matched pair mics, some people suggest me to add DI box before the preamp. In that case, since it's stereo, I should get one StereoDI box right (Instead of 2 monos)? and then both channels out through XLR into the preamp.
To my ears the 319 and the 103's sound best (particularly in stereo!). I have always had good luck with AKG 414's and, of course, U47's don't stink. Do you record with the bass in the stand? That would drive me crazy, I think.
Tom Wilberforce, i hope you get this. I'm not sure why I couldn't answer your questions directly from your comment on my channel. Regarding question #1, I usually start by aiming the diaphragms at both f holes. As to quesiton #2, stereo overheads won't give you a natural sound. It will be more ambient. If you put at least 1 microphone about a foot away from the hight string f hole, then you can put overheads for ambient sound. I've never done that, however. Thanks!
Coño!, how many mics.?, and pick up!!
Hi Trinidad
Could you please make a demo of how you might record rockabilly slap bass.
Thanks!
Hey Darren, I hope you get this. Sorry I completely missed this. I probably could not make a rockabilly slap bass video because I can't play that style as much as I love it. That's a great idea though!
Cheers!
Oh yeah, The mics that I will be using is also Oktava 012 matched pair.. I'm just slightly confused because this is my first attempt at stereo recording
Digital clipping on the first stereo pair 9:30
Just seeing this! I've not gone back to listen. The clipping wouldn't be in my DAW as I was pretty conservative. Thank you for the comment though.
Cheers!