Compact 1" will be overtaken by smartphone very soon. Here's why - Still no 4k60 while smartphone can simultaneously shoot multiple streams - Still no ultra wide angle while smartphone does by having multiple lenses - Costs as much if not more than a smartphone - No computational processing and therefore limited by sensor and lens - Terrible screen (EVF kind of makes up for that) - No waterproofing. - Camera companies even like Sony still seem to without features and collude on specs with other cartels to protect their small margins.
I watched the first video you showed regarding this topic so I was a bit confused when I saw you'd remade it, until I started watching. I'm glad I've seen both.
Thanks for the real-world clarification of the pros and cons of mirrorless camera vs their mirrored counterpart. Too many people these days are under the impression that mirror less camera are somehow better than mirrored cameras. When in fact, the two just have different applications on the capture of footage. When comparing these two ask yourself one question: what can a mirrorless camera do that a DSLR cannot? Actions camera have expanded well beyond their original "action" pedigree. Consumer asked them to be blogging camera and GoPro (and others) responded. You can crop in the view and totally get rid of the curvature.
Yes. Get a gopro to record yourself doing interesting stuff. Don't think that buying a gopro will make you go out and do interesting stuff if you didn't already. It won't make you more adventurous and exciting.
Dave with Great respect for you, I fear that you must remake or update this video yet again! Your dog completely tuned you out at about 4.minutes in. I say he is sending you a powerful message. Perhaps those beautifully large F2.8 ears of his are capable of taking in your wisdom whenever you speak. However, he seems to have nodded off to sleep which is like F22 in dog stops. 😜🙃😂😂🤣😍❤️please let me know when update #3 is up. My apologies to Panda Man who was one of the first people to comment about the dog tuning you out.
If somebody is considering photography I would advise going with one of the APS-C kit packages. Sure these do not have all the wonderful features of higher end cameras and the lens are of less quality (but still not that bad) but these give you a great sense of what you can do and thus a great place to learn what you might fit you best if you find photography is for you. Generally you can get one of these packages for less than $600 USD and dump it to a used camera equipment site for about $300 which isn't bad considering the cost of photography in general.
APS-C is definitely a great starting point and will be more than sufficient for the majority of people I see a lot of people buy straight into a ton of full frame gear that doesn't really offer any benefit for the type of photography they are doing
Good update on the earlier video. as a hobbyist or enthusiast, looking for a new camera at the moment, DSLR for me. I feel priced out of the mirrorless world at the moment.
Great video. As always. I couldn't agree more with that what you said in the end. I am hobby photographer (and I have no interest in videografy) and I am buying a "new" camera. After long thoroughly consideration i made a conclusion that best camera for me at the moment is used Nikon d750 or d610. It is cheap for what it can offer, small and lightweight among the similar cameras, lenses are not very big and expensive i am considering of buying an used prime lenses. I love mirrorless cameras but. They are expensive, at least those who produce the best image quality (full frame). The aps c camera suffers from to high pixel density. I am remembering times when all experienced photographers said. Use a full frame lense on aps c camera. It doesn't matter if they are not good in the corners. Camera sensor can't detect light from that area anyway. And now the aps c camera sensors have so high pixel density that the best full frame lenses perform mediocre at best. So yes. Mirrorles is the future. But for me in about 15 years when prices of full frame cameras and lenses will drop on a reasonable level.
The next camera question has always been a relatively straight forward one if you know your shooting style and requirements but mirrorless have made it a little tricky, for now, there are things that both DSLR and mirrorless, alike, do better than one another and for some having both, if you can, maybe the preferable option. I really like my phone camera, but of course, it has significant limitations. With mirrorless, bye, bye micro-adjustment and hopefully backfocus, too, in my experience with Canon adaptors and mirrorless, there is no noticeable loss of function at all, but that cannot always be said of other brands and/or third-party adaptors. EVF lag is a significant annoyance, though.
The convenience of smartphones is not merely in the taking of the picture. Just as important is the convenience of what happens after you take the photo. Yes they are readily at hand but just as importantly they are they have great network connectivity, make basic post processing practical, and are great for photo sharing and social media. This matters greatly. There is no technical reason why “real” cameras couldn’t also have great network connectivity and image sharing but Sony/Canon/Nikon/etc simply cannot be bothered for unclear reasons. They seem to suffer from the delusion that the (often marginally) better image quality is all that matters and this just isn’t true for many many use cases. This is why point and shoots have all but disappeared. The inconvenience of actually doing something with the images after you take them isn’t worth the hassle of carrying the additional camera just to get slightly better image quality on your holiday pictures. Honestly the only thing really protecting DSLR class cameras is physics. They are a pain in the rear to use and carry but if top shelf image quality is what you want there really is no alternative.
It's already started with new Zeiss camera, where you can edit and upload from the camera. I think part of the problem is who pays for the connectivity as with smartphones you are paying a monthly fee to have data access
Dave, you do an admirable job of explaining the many differences of the six types of cameras, but I feel you have left out a niche type of camera between the compact and the action camera. I call them ruggedized. You may think of this niche as a variant of the compact camera, but those who buy a ruggedized camera know well why they chose it over any other compact. Examples are the Nikon Coolpix, Canon Powershot, Olympus TG series and others. The fact that they can be dropped into water, endure dust, heat, and cold, and take a 6ft+ drop makes them great as a tool in the hands of people who used them in their daily work environment and subject them to more abuse than most average photographers. Yes, they have compromises similar to the many compact cameras but they also have useful features that serve their owners well.
Thank you John, and true there are many sub-categories of cameras I didn't cover, these were just the main ones. The more rugged ones you speak of are still essentially compact cameras however they just have the difference of that much tougher construction.
I find myself taking more pictures on my cell phone than a camera 😊 However I would love to take them on a camera,I would love to own the most updated, quality, beautifulness of a camera 😀👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️
Well for the Canon width the DSLR lenses with the drop in adapter as a video maker you get better experience than using RF lenses and screw front filters. :D
A few years ago I sold my DSLR thinking that I don't get enough use out of it and that smartphone tech was 'good enough'. After a while I decided it wasn't and started looking at bridge cameras, DSLRs and mirrorless. Lots of dithering ensued and two years later I went FF. Amazing the difference between FF and smartphone (unsurprisingly). It is annoying when smartphones are coming out now with 40mp and even 63mp sensors. They're still nowhere near DSLR quality but the marketing team will have you belive otherwise.
Dave, When you covered the differences between the DLSR and the Mirrorless cameras, you skipped over the differences in the size and weight of the native mirrorless lenses compared to the native DSLR lenses. Because there is no mirror that is placed between the lens and the sensor, the lens of a mirrorless is mounted closer to the sensor than the lenses of the DSLR. This allows the lenses to be made lighter for the same focal length and aperture. The net result is a lighter total weight, and less to carry on long hikes and full days of shooting. The weight difference is substantial and there is less bulk to the equivalent mirrorless lenses making them less obtrusive in candid shooting environments.
The difference is only possible on wider focal lengths of around 35mm or less. Longer than that and the lenses are around the same as DSLR's - and some manufacturers choose not to make the lenses smaller and lighter but instead use the extra freedom for other things like improving image quality or adding stabilisation
Its really interesting that the camera battery is actually getting better because of better processers, instead of getting thicker and bigger batteries.
Compact 1" will be overtaken by smartphone very soon. Here's why
- Still no 4k60 while smartphone can simultaneously shoot multiple streams
- Still no ultra wide angle while smartphone does by having multiple lenses
- Costs as much if not more than a smartphone
- No computational processing and therefore limited by sensor and lens
- Terrible screen (EVF kind of makes up for that)
- No waterproofing.
- Camera companies even like Sony still seem to without features and collude on specs with other cartels to protect their small margins.
I love the dog hair on the camera sensor @ 2:13
Ha ha ha...
I watched the first video you showed regarding this topic so I was a bit confused when I saw you'd remade it, until I started watching. I'm glad I've seen both.
Thanks for the real-world clarification of the pros and cons of mirrorless camera vs their mirrored counterpart. Too many people these days are under the impression that mirror less camera are somehow better than mirrored cameras. When in fact, the two just have different applications on the capture of footage. When comparing these two ask yourself one question: what can a mirrorless camera do that a DSLR cannot?
Actions camera have expanded well beyond their original "action" pedigree. Consumer asked them to be blogging camera and GoPro (and others) responded. You can crop in the view and totally get rid of the curvature.
advice- if you don't have a super interesting life, don't buy a gopro… I just sold one for a dslr.
Yes. Get a gopro to record yourself doing interesting stuff. Don't think that buying a gopro will make you go out and do interesting stuff if you didn't already. It won't make you more adventurous and exciting.
The oldest question in photography " could you just open those buttons a bit more luv....?"
HIlarious!!! Love your humour!! Bravo!
🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Dave with Great respect for you, I fear that you must remake or update this video yet again! Your dog completely tuned you out at about 4.minutes in. I say he is sending you a powerful message. Perhaps those beautifully large F2.8 ears of his are capable of taking in your wisdom whenever you speak. However, he seems to have nodded off to sleep which is like F22 in dog stops. 😜🙃😂😂🤣😍❤️please let me know when update #3 is up. My apologies to Panda Man who was one of the first people to comment about the dog tuning you out.
If somebody is considering photography I would advise going with one of the APS-C kit packages. Sure these do not have all the wonderful features of higher end cameras and the lens are of less quality (but still not that bad) but these give you a great sense of what you can do and thus a great place to learn what you might fit you best if you find photography is for you. Generally you can get one of these packages for less than $600 USD and dump it to a used camera equipment site for about $300 which isn't bad considering the cost of photography in general.
APS-C is definitely a great starting point and will be more than sufficient for the majority of people
I see a lot of people buy straight into a ton of full frame gear that doesn't really offer any benefit for the type of photography they are doing
Good update on the earlier video.
as a hobbyist or enthusiast, looking for a new camera at the moment, DSLR for me. I feel priced out of the mirrorless world at the moment.
Great video. As always. I couldn't agree more with that what you said in the end. I am hobby photographer (and I have no interest in videografy) and I am buying a "new" camera. After long thoroughly consideration i made a conclusion that best camera for me at the moment is used Nikon d750 or d610. It is cheap for what it can offer, small and lightweight among the similar cameras, lenses are not very big and expensive i am considering of buying an used prime lenses.
I love mirrorless cameras but. They are expensive, at least those who produce the best image quality (full frame).
The aps c camera suffers from to high pixel density. I am remembering times when all experienced photographers said. Use a full frame lense on aps c camera. It doesn't matter if they are not good in the corners. Camera sensor can't detect light from that area anyway. And now the aps c camera sensors have so high pixel density that the best full frame lenses perform mediocre at best. So yes. Mirrorles is the future. But for me in about 15 years when prices of full frame cameras and lenses will drop on a reasonable level.
The next camera question has always been a relatively straight forward one if you know your shooting style and requirements but mirrorless have made it a little tricky, for now, there are things that both DSLR and mirrorless, alike, do better than one another and for some having both, if you can, maybe the preferable option.
I really like my phone camera, but of course, it has significant limitations.
With mirrorless, bye, bye micro-adjustment and hopefully backfocus, too, in my experience with Canon adaptors and mirrorless, there is no noticeable loss of function at all, but that cannot always be said of other brands and/or third-party adaptors. EVF lag is a significant annoyance, though.
The convenience of smartphones is not merely in the taking of the picture. Just as important is the convenience of what happens after you take the photo. Yes they are readily at hand but just as importantly they are they have great network connectivity, make basic post processing practical, and are great for photo sharing and social media. This matters greatly. There is no technical reason why “real” cameras couldn’t also have great network connectivity and image sharing but Sony/Canon/Nikon/etc simply cannot be bothered for unclear reasons. They seem to suffer from the delusion that the (often marginally) better image quality is all that matters and this just isn’t true for many many use cases.
This is why point and shoots have all but disappeared. The inconvenience of actually doing something with the images after you take them isn’t worth the hassle of carrying the additional camera just to get slightly better image quality on your holiday pictures.
Honestly the only thing really protecting DSLR class cameras is physics. They are a pain in the rear to use and carry but if top shelf image quality is what you want there really is no alternative.
It's already started with new Zeiss camera, where you can edit and upload from the camera.
I think part of the problem is who pays for the connectivity as with smartphones you are paying a monthly fee to have data access
Fantastic test for the optical/digital zoom, every test should be like this :)
Dave, you do an admirable job of explaining the many differences of the six types of cameras, but I feel you have left out a niche type of camera between the compact and the action camera. I call them ruggedized. You may think of this niche as a variant of the compact camera, but those who buy a ruggedized camera know well why they chose it over any other compact. Examples are the Nikon Coolpix, Canon Powershot, Olympus TG series and others. The fact that they can be dropped into water, endure dust, heat, and cold, and take a 6ft+ drop makes them great as a tool in the hands of people who used them in their daily work environment and subject them to more abuse than most average photographers. Yes, they have compromises similar to the many compact cameras but they also have useful features that serve their owners well.
Thank you John, and true there are many sub-categories of cameras I didn't cover, these were just the main ones. The more rugged ones you speak of are still essentially compact cameras however they just have the difference of that much tougher construction.
I find myself taking more pictures on my cell phone than a camera 😊 However I would love to take them on a camera,I would love to own the most updated, quality, beautifulness of a camera 😀👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾❤️
Which one should I buy or what's the difference between Nikon d5600 and canon 250d sl3
Timeline 2:17 ( you see how he turned his back on the topic) LOL, Go Rusty
Well for the Canon width the DSLR lenses with the drop in adapter as a video maker you get better experience than using RF lenses and screw front filters. :D
A few years ago I sold my DSLR thinking that I don't get enough use out of it and that smartphone tech was 'good enough'. After a while I decided it wasn't and started looking at bridge cameras, DSLRs and mirrorless. Lots of dithering ensued and two years later I went FF. Amazing the difference between FF and smartphone (unsurprisingly). It is annoying when smartphones are coming out now with 40mp and even 63mp sensors. They're still nowhere near DSLR quality but the marketing team will have you belive otherwise.
What is ff
Full frame
I'd feel as if I am in an agreement with the dog. This topic never gets old.
Dave, When you covered the differences between the DLSR and the Mirrorless cameras, you skipped over the differences in the size and weight of the native mirrorless lenses compared to the native DSLR lenses. Because there is no mirror that is placed between the lens and the sensor, the lens of a mirrorless is mounted closer to the sensor than the lenses of the DSLR. This allows the lenses to be made lighter for the same focal length and aperture. The net result is a lighter total weight, and less to carry on long hikes and full days of shooting. The weight difference is substantial and there is less bulk to the equivalent mirrorless lenses making them less obtrusive in candid shooting environments.
The difference is only possible on wider focal lengths of around 35mm or less.
Longer than that and the lenses are around the same as DSLR's - and some manufacturers choose not to make the lenses smaller and lighter but instead use the extra freedom for other things like improving image quality or adding stabilisation
This is an extremely informative video. Thank you very much for making this!
You're welcome, I'm glad you found it useful 😊
Its really interesting that the camera battery is actually getting better because of better processers, instead of getting thicker and bigger batteries.
It's a mix of both, battery capacity is also increasing but thinner processors are also more efficient
Thank you Mr McKeegan, Hi Rusty
You're welcome Mr Bailey, Rusty says hi
I love the dog
Great video!
Could you do a video about Deep Fusion if you don't mind?
You're not lieing!🤔👍🏾
Nice video Geezer.. enjoyed it!!
Thanks 😊 glad you liked it
another solid video
Analog filmcamera for a change?
yes
Sony RX100 vii has a very good autofocus so not every compact camera have bad autofocus. And a 1" sensor must be bigger than what is in a smartphone?
True it's a great camera, but it's also an £800 making it more expensive than several budget mirrorless & DSLRs 😁
The sensor that Sony camera at 2:12 has a massive strand of hair on it hahaha. 😂. Except for that, it's a great vid!
Great review.
Thank you
You forgot the camcorders
Action Cam. Con: Buying one will not make your life more interesting and adventurous like you imagine it will
Very true, nobody takes up snowboarding just because they've bought a GoPro 😂
Isn't the question wrong.... "what camera should i buy next..."
A camera good enough to take good photos of your dog
The obvious answer is all of them except for bridge devices those are pointless
Is it just me or is the video/audio out of sync?
dog is a ventriloquist
i realized halfway through the video that you don’t have an american accent
its more like "people take more photos in an hour on a smartphone then in a month with all other cameras"
Smart phones have so many advantages!!
@@madphotographer762 I didn't say they didn't . . .
@@jaysanchez4407 I know Cabron, I was agreeing with you.