South Africa thinks I’m Coloured | Being American abroad

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  • @MfezekoMatshoba
    @MfezekoMatshoba 4 дні тому +26

    I honestly think that if Black Americans were to just witness Coloured culture and compare it with Black South Africans they would easily see that these are 2 different peoples. And the fact that they make it seem like, it's either you're us (black) or you're the enemy is also not the vibe here. There is no rivalry here. And when Tyla says she's not black it doesn't mean she thinks she's better. People here are proud of who they are and also happy to leave with other races and cultures in harmony. Except for that one adopted child😉. We're still working on that one. She's slowly coming along.

    • @issachaarwazulu1726
      @issachaarwazulu1726 3 дні тому

      You guy's are out here lying with that rainbow nation 😂 retoric.... The is a huge divide in this country and clear as day and night....at least black Americans know who their open enemy's are....the very European descendants y'all cherish burned a black person business in Hartebeest because they don't want black folks and that's not an isolated case.... rainbow nation don't exist,it never did.....but hey Stockholm syndrome....

    • @mbhekitembe2179
      @mbhekitembe2179 18 годин тому

      Americans of all races must just "grow up" and accept that, American ways are not universal. They must learn more about those they share the planet with.

  • @kevinc3236
    @kevinc3236 3 дні тому +10

    Coloured isnt derogatory in SA sister. Here we are black white induan and coloured and we the most racially united country in the world. To think that the same set of people come from apartheid and now we here, tolerating our differences in love and honour. Best country in the world. Viva South Africa 🇿🇦 Viva

  • @nicoler02902
    @nicoler02902 3 дні тому +7

    I was born and raised in Texas but here in Joburg, I am Colored or from India. 😂
    I was called "Hindi' for the first time when I was living in Tanzania. if I wear my hair straight I guess I look like I'm from India. I just go with it. But in the USA I'm black.

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  День тому

      lol funny right. It’s really fascinating to me how we all come from so many places yet can blend so well. We are ultimately one!

  • @DeePie2024
    @DeePie2024 2 дні тому +2

    Coloured = Mixed race - It is really that simple. BUT sweetie - You can be whatever you want to be....We will love you either way. We will NOT force you to be anything - Like black Americans force people to be black - That is disgraceful behaviour. If you prefer Xhosa - Then go for it! We do not care - So long we love each other.

  • @Matthew6thirty3
    @Matthew6thirty3 4 дні тому +14

    Jesus Christ still saves

  • @Charlito-q5s
    @Charlito-q5s 3 дні тому +3

    Tia, thank you for embracing this classification. You're helping us to teach the world of the existence of this group (Mix-race/biracial = coloured).

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  День тому +1

      It’s my honor to learn the beauty in these cultures and a privilege to be welcomed and feel at home

  • @elroyswarts513
    @elroyswarts513 4 дні тому +9

    1. There is more to being coloured than just looking mixed. It is an actual culture. One can be mixed without being necessarily coloured. In that case the person is just a random mixed person. Trevor Noah is a perfect example of someone like that.
    2. Mixed or light skinned looking black Americans who come to South Africa may at first be mistaken for being coloured, but once people find out that they are American, they won't be considered coloured because they lack the cultural experience to be coloured in South Africa. People will just respect that they are American. No one will insist that that they identify as coloured or else accuse them of distancing themself from colouredness. It is quite unfortunate that the same courtesy cannot be extended to Tyla while she is in America and she is accused of "distancing herself from blackness" though she is literally from another country, she has her own culture, and she lacks the cultural experience to be black in America. For some reason some black Americans fail to see that Tyla is in America to represent her own culture. Not ditch her own culture or assimilate.
    3. Only about 20 to 30 percent of coloured people live in Cape Town(Western Cape). There are also coloured people in the Eastern Cape, Northern Cape, Joburg, Durban(KZN), Free State, and Limpopo. Although they are all the same in some ways, they also differ in other ways, and based on one region or province to next. Tyla is a Joburg coloured.
    4. About 95 percent of coloured people speak Afrikaans as their mother tongue, though they can also speak and understand English. Durban coloureds are the only coloureds who do not speak nor understand Afrikaans. They speak English and Zulu. Afrikaans is essentially Dutch combined with indigenous South African Bantu and Khoisan languages.
    5. Coloured people are multi generationally mixed(MGM). That means that most coloured people come from coloured parents who come from other coloured parents who come from other coloured parents and it goes back many generations to the days of slavery in the 1600's when the initial mixing of the different people groups that form part of the ancestry of coloured people occurred. Asking most coloured people about their grand parents or great grand parents will only lead you to more and more coloured people in their lineage. I suppose it also depends on how recently they have been mixed. Most come from many generations of mixed people.
    6. Coloured and black might be a "colonial thing" but the one drop rule which is how blackness is determined in America is also something that came from racist white people in America.
    7. The difference between COLORED and COLOURED is simply a matter of American English versus British English.
    8. Most coloured people see nothing wrong with the word coloured and embrace it with pride.
    9. Coloured people are not all mixed the exact same way and do not have the exact same lineages. Also, only about 60 to 70 percent of coloured people have Khoisan ancestry. Not all do.

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  4 дні тому +3

      Correct… and from the convo on my tiktok which is where the clips are from was me sharing as an American to share with other Americans showing it as a culture. Thanks for sharing your perspective. I agree with it as I stated on my other platform. And understand it more living in it

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  4 дні тому +3

      And surprisingly enough more than few Kullids ( to be politically correct) don’t like to be identified as that either. So many people are learning other views in their own culture just by having the conversation. That’s what it’s about. Thanks for the informed convo. 😊

    • @elroyswarts513
      @elroyswarts513 4 дні тому +2

      @@LivingthedreamwithTia You're welcome.

    • @elroyswarts513
      @elroyswarts513 4 дні тому +4

      @@LivingthedreamwithTia As I have said, the overwhelming majority of coloured people are not at all bothered or offended by the term "coloured", which is why it the term is even found on official government, Bank or other documents that requires a person to indicate their race. I have personally never met any coloured person in my life who has a problem being referred to as coloured. Perhaps more Cape coloureds feel that way, but over here in Joburg, which is where I am from, no one really cares. People just have more pressing issues to deal with. At the same time, there is a movement among the very few coloureds who reject the term coloured to embrace and be more connected to their Khoisan heritage. They actually prefer the term Khoisan instead of coloured. Some of them have even tried to get the government to scrap the term coloured and replace it with the term Khoisan. Not all coloureds are on board with that. The government is also not very eager to do that for their own reasons but some coloured politicians like Gayton McKenzie are pushing for the government to officially recognize the indigenous Khoisan people and the Khoisan language as one of the official South African languages like Zulu, Sotho, Xhosa, English, Afrikaans, etc.
      In any case, thanks for showing an interest in our culture. It sounded very cute when you said "goeie more" which just means good morning. I hope Americans will listen to you. Thanks for doing what you can to help them to understand these things.

    • @nikilandella6136
      @nikilandella6136 4 дні тому +3

      So many good points. I am an example of a mixed coloured because only one parent is coloured.
      We aren't just MGM, we are Creole. We just don't use that word because we have no latin (Spanish or French) influence as a more Germanic (Dutch and English) former colony.
      Eastern Cape coloured folk speak Xhosa often.

  • @nikilandella6136
    @nikilandella6136 4 дні тому +5

    They didn't let go of the khoi San background, neither did those of us who are Nguni let go of it, it was taken from us by slavery and Apartheid. We were also called things like "xekakazi" which means mixed-race dog or malau...
    Coloured was chosen instead of Baster (bastard) or Volkie (little folk) etc...
    The one drop rule in America was used to prolong slavery and is white supremacist at its core.

  • @NoDnaJustRsa
    @NoDnaJustRsa 4 дні тому +8

    Yes, you're Coloured and extremely beautiful like most of them.

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      she's NOT coloured 😂😂😂

  • @nikilandella6136
    @nikilandella6136 4 дні тому +5

    If you can accept Latino as a Creole race, or th Metisse of Mauritius as Creole race, then you can accept Coloured as a creole race.

    • @AwgustRushOfficial
      @AwgustRushOfficial 4 дні тому +1

      Coloured is not a race sorry! Many of us black Americans are mixed due to our ancestors women being taken by force aka r@p’d …. They used to call us colored in America we made them change that because we realised it was a divide and conquer technique to cut us off from our black ancestry and lessen our numbers. They know together we would defeat them that all it is. There is no such thing as coloured that’s why it only exists in South Africa

  • @sheiladavids7734
    @sheiladavids7734 3 дні тому +3

    Girl ,welcome to Mzanzi ❤❤❤Love your spirit😊

  • @authenticone1110
    @authenticone1110 3 дні тому +5

    Even the word "Black" is a word started bt colonizers, that's why some black people in other nations prefer to be called by their tribe name.

    • @sphulasikabopha
      @sphulasikabopha 22 години тому

      Truly speaking South africans are not black, even me and my family we are all light skin, when we talk about black people, we talk about people from Kenya, Malawi, Zimbabwe etc. You see that if you can put polish in their face they can shine especially Kiwi.. All in all South africans are different from other Africans.

    • @michaelstamike
      @michaelstamike 6 годин тому

      ​​@@sphulasikabophaget lost both Venda,Nguni,Pedi,Sotho, Tswana,we are Black

    • @sphulasikabopha
      @sphulasikabopha 5 годин тому

      @@michaelstamike Do you know what black colour looks like, me I'm not black

  • @JACK-OMARI
    @JACK-OMARI 4 дні тому +6

    Your Xhosa clicks are on point

  • @JohnJohn-lv3qr
    @JohnJohn-lv3qr 4 дні тому +2

    Thank you God for giving me heavily melanine black skin and making me beautifully, wonderfully, and powerfully wise and spiritual...

  • @mbhekitembe2179
    @mbhekitembe2179 3 дні тому +2

    You are a positive cultural chameleon, that goes to show how much respect you have for culture.

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  День тому +1

      Thaaaank you! I truly hope this positivity becomes contagious. There is so much beauty it the ancestral differences. I respect all of it

  • @Iqandatheegg
    @Iqandatheegg 3 дні тому

    They're not saying you're colored, they say you look like one. Unlike Americans if you're black American in SA , continue being black you won't receive backlash, we'll all accept your Blackness.❤

  • @fadeelahomar3577
    @fadeelahomar3577 4 дні тому +4

    Yes, you definitely look like a cape cullard (coloured from cape town) ❤ if i should meet you, I will probably speak to you in the cape cullard slang 😅

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      Well She's NOT coloured 🤣🤣🤣 Travel so that you can learn coloureds aren't the only ones who look like this

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  День тому

      Yaaayyy yes cullard/kullid slang… I hear it all … Gam😉

  • @thato596
    @thato596 3 дні тому +2

    Nice to see you learning African languages. People are using click sound as an excuse not to learn xhosa. Those click sounds are easy. You can learn xhosa if you take it seriously seens you are in cape town. I speak the Sesotho language from Johannesburg Gauteng province

  • @AbdulMajid-ih3er
    @AbdulMajid-ih3er 6 днів тому +4

    We just say light-skinneded 😂😂😂

    • @pelomk9022
      @pelomk9022 4 дні тому +8

      There are dark skinned coloured who look phenotypically black so it's not about skin tone. Some coloured look Asian

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  4 дні тому +2

      @@pelomk9022 he’s saying what we call it in the states. We all have different complexions too. It’s been a conversation here in SA about the comparison based on the Tyla comment. This is just a more global perspective from comments on my tiktok

  • @RuthMadumo
    @RuthMadumo 3 дні тому

    Don't forget that America has native people also

  • @vernonjadams2445
    @vernonjadams2445 3 дні тому

    Yes my sister… you are coloured… your are now embraced in Cape Town … you are coloured my sister

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      She's NOT Coloured 😂😂😂 Not you trying to recruit her as being coloured SHE'S NOT COLOURED 😂😂😂😂

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      "You are coloured my sister" She's NOT Coloured 😂😂😂 So what you saying if one is not coloured then they won't be embraced in Cape Town 😂😂😂you are Funny 😂😂

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      keep dreaming she's NOT Coloured 🤣🤣🤣 stop trying to push your coloured agenda onto people who's NOT Coloured 🤣🤣

    • @Iqandatheegg
      @Iqandatheegg 3 дні тому

      She's American 💀

  • @JohnJohn-lv3qr
    @JohnJohn-lv3qr 4 дні тому +4

    Lady, I am from America, but I have spent some times in Africa... A lot of Africans need to be taught how to love themselves, to appreciate their black skin and broader nose, to thank God for making them as they are... Black and beautifully, and powerfully spiritual

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  4 дні тому +2

      I agree… we are black and beautiful in the name of Jesus… do you also know the Coloured culture?

    • @mphosa995
      @mphosa995 4 дні тому +9

      Be taught by who? You? We love ourselves and appreciate our African features, we don't need any outsider with identity crises to be teaching us about self love... I'm sure in America you guys would classify this lady as black when there's nothing black about her features.

    • @elroyswarts513
      @elroyswarts513 4 дні тому +6

      @@mphosa995 I keep saying that no self respecting black African would ever claim a mixed person as black. Some would even find it offensive.

    • @mphosa995
      @mphosa995 4 дні тому +5

      @@elroyswarts513 it is an offense for us Africans to be classifying a mixed person as black... But these people always feel entitled to be teaching us about our blackness when we know more about our blackness than them, because we Africans are the indigenous black people.

    • @UniverseBeauty-ff4eo
      @UniverseBeauty-ff4eo 4 дні тому +5

      Then you haven't met South Africans😂😂😂

  • @FKOWM2456
    @FKOWM2456 3 дні тому

    U 100% correct & there’s still a lot of racism between races in SA.In the US,u lucky that all non whites accepted each other no matter the % of black.In SA,the colonizer ensured pride & superiority is embedded within people so that u cannot be classified as white,if u have a small % & u cannot be classified as African, if u have a small %.The Khoi & San didn’t offer themselves to be graped by the colonizers .Neither did the slaves that was brought to CT. Still some races are blamed for being mixed.Therefore unity in SA will only happen once people have deconstructed.

    • @SA_SovereigntyForPatriots
      @SA_SovereigntyForPatriots 3 дні тому

      As a matter of fact, its worst in the USA. And I have lived there for 26 years and traveled & visited 42 of the 50 states.
      Please, if you have no experience living in the USA just focus on your experiences here in SA.

  • @grahamsolomons453
    @grahamsolomons453 4 дні тому +3

    You are abviously coloured.Do a heritage test and the truth will be revealed just dont assume something that was indoctrinated by your goverment with the one drop rule. American goverment's prerogative is to keep the white bloodline pure with the that rule and to ostracized black Americans from white Americans. Coloureds are multigenerational so very much diverse , we look like every race in the world , for example myself is 16 nationalities.Please do a heritage test , it will be very interesting.

    • @meks1478
      @meks1478 3 дні тому +1

      It's called embracing your blackness, you can try to belittle and minimize it as the "one drop rule" all you want. Unlike you, black Americans are not ashamed of their blackness.

    • @Azania20
      @Azania20 3 дні тому

      ​@@meks1478❤❤❤😊

    • @grahamsolomons453
      @grahamsolomons453 3 дні тому

      @@meks1478 Firstly you had to know what is the term "Blackness"Whats the meaning,where it originated from.What is 'Blackness"? As a African living on the continent knowing the history of our continent ,I can tell you with confidence that the term 'Blackness' is not synonymous with Africa as people cannot be degraded to a mere colour , not in Africa as Africa is so much diverse with thousand of different shades of people. Those indoctrinated by the mainstream media and political narrative those with limited intellectual capabilities those who cannot use their intelligence will fall into the pitfall of something created by someone who want you to think like you think. There is no such think as black people just as there no no such thing as yellow blue and white people. The logic and realism is incorrect untrue and stupid. Black American should start doing heritage test to see where they are coming from. "Black" people is so contradictory with this term ,they fight the masters but yet accept and is satisfied what master is calling them. WAKE UP.

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      she's NOT coloured 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You cannot classify someone by a race that is ONLY used by 1 country in the world🤣🤣🤣 She's NOT coloured 🤣🤣 Not you trying to recruit NON coloured folks and putting them as coloured 😂😂

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      ​@@meks1478EXACTLY

  • @AndileMasiko
    @AndileMasiko 3 дні тому +1

    You look beautiful!!

  • @southafricaismyhome814
    @southafricaismyhome814 4 дні тому +1

    Coloured is mix Race Between black and white in Southafrica

    • @UniverseBeauty-ff4eo
      @UniverseBeauty-ff4eo 4 дні тому +3

      Unamanga😂😂😂😂Why lie

    • @acidicsoul4978
      @acidicsoul4978 4 дні тому +4

      ​@@UniverseBeauty-ff4eo honestly as a South Africa, I call white and black mixed race people "colored".
      I always saw it that way, I believe that's how it works.

    • @MfezekoMatshoba
      @MfezekoMatshoba 4 дні тому +4

      Lol it's not just Black and White

    • @janomesteve3129
      @janomesteve3129 4 дні тому +3

      Coloured is multiracialy mixed 4 generations
      Not all mixed race people are coloured in South Africa

    • @thato596
      @thato596 3 дні тому +1

      In the South Africa the word coloured is used. In other nations they use the word mixed race. mixed race is not word that was used in South Africa. Coloured means you are mixed raced you come from different races. In South Africa they call you coloured that is how it has always been. O le coloured ntho ena ea di mixed raced mo Afrika Borwa ke ntho encha ya di internet

  • @mariusscholtz3867
    @mariusscholtz3867 3 дні тому

    Americans adept well to SA - I am too lazy to live in USA.

  • @jasminscarbrough2596
    @jasminscarbrough2596 3 дні тому

    So would they consider me black even though I’m American. I want to find my tribe in SA but I want know if I’d be accepted lol

    • @elroyswarts513
      @elroyswarts513 3 дні тому

      Black Americans are regarded as black when in South Africa. Concerning the tribe thing, I suppose it depends on which one you would find appealing. People are generally very open to showing foreigners their tribal cultures, as long as they are respectful.

    • @jasminscarbrough2596
      @jasminscarbrough2596 3 дні тому

      @@elroyswarts513 oh wow how many black tribes are there in SA?

    • @elroyswarts513
      @elroyswarts513 3 дні тому

      @@jasminscarbrough2596 There are about 9 black tribes in South Africa. Each has it's own culture, traditions, and language.

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      what you mean? You'll be Black everywhere you go

    • @jasminscarbrough2596
      @jasminscarbrough2596 3 дні тому

      @@Swavvyy10 that came off wrong( even though that’s not true) I meant would the black people there see me as one of their own or as just American. But I love Africa but a lot of them tell me I’m not really black that Americans are mixed. Throw in that I’m also bilingual in Spanish and people other me for that as well

  • @Chan-og8pu
    @Chan-og8pu 16 годин тому

    Wassup cousin

  • @Swavvyy10
    @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

    Not the coloureds in the comments sayin " you are coloured, you look coloured" 🤣🤣🤣 She's BLACK and PROUD...✊🏾 y'all should travel Black people come in ALL shades too👍.. Calling someone coloured a racial term ONLY used in 1 country IN THE WORLD just cause according to y'all " you look Coloured" 🤣 NO SHE DOESN'T....Many Black people look like her and are BLACK....Travel and EDUACATE YOURSELVES.... Black people come in ALL SHADES 👍 Coloureds arent the ONLY one's who look like how y'all look😂 and besides y'all ONLY exist in Southern Africa outside those countries there's NO such thing as a Coloured 🤣🤣👍

    • @Iqandatheegg
      @Iqandatheegg 3 дні тому

      😑we know Black people come in all shades. In S.A we have light skinned and dark skinned 😑.

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 3 дні тому

      @@Iqandatheegg Cap being black to y'all is restricted to 4C hair and Darkskin 🤣 the moment Someone lightskin with curly hair or look like the girl in the video, y'all automatically call them coloured 🤣So stop the cap

    • @khoicpt
      @khoicpt 2 дні тому

      Can you be any more wrong? Thers mgm creole ppl all over go pick up a book

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 2 дні тому

      @@khoicpt How about you EDUACATE YOURSELF on the fact that Black people are NOT ONLY restricted to 4C hair and being Darkskin 👍 And being creole is a different story👍

    • @Swavvyy10
      @Swavvyy10 2 дні тому

      @@khoicpt Creole is an ethnic group how about you take your own advice and pick up a Book👍 Creoles and Coloured are NOT the same thing👍Know the differences before speaking out your ass👍

  • @mhlonishwammkhize9515
    @mhlonishwammkhize9515 День тому

    I think Americans wanna come to SA or Africa and embrace colonial power by using UA-cam to explain nonsense

    • @LivingthedreamwithTia
      @LivingthedreamwithTia  День тому

      I’m sorry you feel that way. A fixed mindset is not easy to live with. I pray you gain a growth mindset and see other perspectives. God Bless you

  • @_from-dan-to-beersheba.
    @_from-dan-to-beersheba. 4 дні тому

    I like u 😅.

  • @platophilosopher1293
    @platophilosopher1293 3 дні тому

    Who cares!

  • @Letitbebeautiful4evr
    @Letitbebeautiful4evr 3 дні тому

    Gore more 😁👌😊