Used to do this in CHs. It’s a mix of terror and fun but after a while, you feel very comfortable doing it. In fact I used to have competitions with my copilots to see who could engage the drogue with the least number of control adjustments. If you set it up correctly, you can actually close in with a slow but steady rate of closure from about 500 ft (less than 5 lengths of the E) that can get you almost into the drogue...often within maybe 5 feet. But this is for super smooth conditions. Much harder at night of course because eye depth perception is gone. Yes - it’s much harder doing this than doing it in an air force fighter with a KC-135 where ALL the pilots (receiver and refueler) could almost sip their coffees while the rear boom operator does all the work manipulating and maneuvering the boom (not drogue) into the fighter. By the way, not many things give a pucker factor higher than finally rendezvousing with a tanker over the ocean far from land (or ship) than when the tanker suddenly reports that his drogue has malfunctioned...no pro would plan for this to happen because these refueling points are always planned to be executed so that if a failure occurs, they will have (just) enough fuel remaining to bingo/divert to a safe ship/airport. But things don’t always go as planned ! Fly Navy !!,
@@ashhawk2346 I saw that video a while ago and was quite surprised. It must have been caused by some rather severe and maybe rapid control inputs. Maybe turbulence added to that too. I don't want to criticize the guy without knowing what really happened though...
@markushandlemeyer6717 Thanks for the info my friend. So what do you do in a situation like that where your far from the boat and flying on fumes without the ability suck the go go juice from the tanker? 🇦🇺🇺🇲
@@ashhawk2346 for chopping off the probe end with the rotors, we were warned during training that this was possible but I never knew it happened when I was flying them (80's and 90's). Good to know its not fatal. What used to scare me was the big electric spark/bolt that occurred visibly at night right when the probe got within about 6" of the probe. All the physics classes I had taken in college were forgotten and my fear of a catastrophic detonation/ignition of the fuel to both aircraft took over. Obviously its absolutely normal !
@@johno9507 you're not supposed to EVER be relying on the tanker fuel only. Should always have a bingo (emergency destination) to go to if there is a failed rendezvous or malfunctioning air-to-air refueling system. "Should" is the key word - shit happens !
I never had, any doubt, about the pilots skills, while I served in HM-12 and 14. I would lay on the ramp, and look forward, under the a/c ,to clear the tail, during night landings at the army base. anybody could turn a helo using the main rotor as the rotation point, or even in a nose down position, but it takes skill, to rotate with the tail rotor being the fixed point, while crew work on bringing in those, floats and gear. we did it in RH-53D, we had to Hussle. best time of my life. line shack for Life.
I was in HM-14. 70-80's. flew almost every day, on something, even if just a fam flight. and never got to experience an air to air refueling. we were in the RH models. the MH models, had just arrived at the training squadron, HM-12.
1) Academy kit of the Sikorsky MH-53E Super Stallion USMC Heavy Lift Helicopter. 2) Italeri kit of the Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules USMC Transport. Both in 1:48th scale 3) H-53 Super Stallion Walkaround (Carrollton, Texas: Squadron Books) Who can model this airborne diorama?
Looks easy and fun, Doesn't it???? Turbulence can be tough on approach to refueling from C 130!! These are Marine and Navy Helo pilots ,ALL WEATHER AIRCRAFT, ALL WEATHER PILOTS.
Only thing I saw that amazed me was the red horse on the side, I didn't think those boys knew how to fly. Why in you took the red emblem off the side I could of sworn their would be a Blackhawk under it. Was in that squadron back in 87.
Yes they are capable of air refueling over the past 25 years we have been doing it for well over 50 years. Just like Un Rep between two ships at sea underway. We perfected that evolution and trained all Nato allies the same system. Russia and China has Helicopters capable of lifting light loads they just don't practise it enough for operations
In order to refuel helicopter, it should be a low speed tanker, such as the KC-130, right? Does anyone know what speed they perform the operation? It seems to be very very dangerous. Congratulations to the people doing it.
You have to be really really desperate to do that... A helicopter flying at the same speed as an aeroplane, wrestling who knows what air flow from the wings. When that becomes your best bet, you are way deep in it. Class flying.
@@dirtdevil70 But its barmy, as barmy as sending a fleet of Vulcans from UK to The Falkland Islands and back non stop. Sure they practice, but if thats the best logistical solution them you are way out on a limb.
How else would you suggest a helicopter refuel on a rescue mission that takes it several hundred miles from Hawaii? There are no gas stations out in the Pacific and we had to send 2 helicopters to an aircraft carrier to pick a sailor up back in 1983. Refueled on the way out and on the way back. But our crews practiced it every day.
Ahhh the ole dinosaur death machine... Time for a instrument and engine upgrade... Killed 134 people since 1974... Much respect to the men and women who maintain and fly these big boyz.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸MAGA proud🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You’re talking out of your ass. And you sight the number killed like something to be proud of. Those numbers don’t ever apply to the MH-53E as it’s not the same aircraft as the CH-53 variant. My brother was a Sea Dragon Airframer in HM-14 for 5 years, while I was a Hornet Driver in VFA-105. Both of us served during OEF/OIF between 2001 and 2009, and our mother didn’t sleep a whole night through the entire time. We actually WERE the men who maintained and flew. If I come off as irritated or pissed off it’s because your “MAGA proud” BS just made me lose all respect for you and your opinion. We sure as hell weren’t fighting for you or your world views!
@@rjminar1980 I really couldn't give 2shits if you respect me OR not.. THAT comment was a year ago.. you're A little late for the party soldier.. and the number of fatalities were from a documentary.. so.. relax... Quit taking you tube comments in your ass.. it was definitely not personal.. but you definitely just spit out statistics like you were reading them from notes. I'll only wait 6 months for your response... 👌.. not A year. Because you're definitely coming across like A Obama lover.. NOW THAT'S talking out of my ass... See the difference???
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Nicely done hm 14 vanguards. This was my squadron in the 80's and 90's. Keep doing it the right way.
This just came up on my feed. Those pilots both fixed wing and helo have BIG stones. Amazing piloting skills for both !!!!!!!!
Heck, all the tanker drivers have to do is fly straight and level. The helo drivers do all the work. Been there, done that, in the helicopter.
Used to do this in CHs. It’s a mix of terror and fun but after a while, you feel very comfortable doing it. In fact I used to have competitions with my copilots to see who could engage the drogue with the least number of control adjustments. If you set it up correctly, you can actually close in with a slow but steady rate of closure from about 500 ft (less than 5 lengths of the E) that can get you almost into the drogue...often within maybe 5 feet. But this is for super smooth conditions. Much harder at night of course because eye depth perception is gone. Yes - it’s much harder doing this than doing it in an air force fighter with a KC-135 where ALL the pilots (receiver and refueler) could almost sip their coffees while the rear boom operator does all the work manipulating and maneuvering the boom (not drogue) into the fighter. By the way, not many things give a pucker factor higher than finally rendezvousing with a tanker over the ocean far from land (or ship) than when the tanker suddenly reports that his drogue has malfunctioned...no pro would plan for this to happen because these refueling points are always planned to be executed so that if a failure occurs, they will have (just) enough fuel remaining to bingo/divert to a safe ship/airport. But things don’t always go as planned ! Fly Navy !!,
Thanks for the info!
What's your take on the guy who chopped the end off his own probe with his rotor?
@@ashhawk2346 I saw that video a while ago and was quite surprised. It must have been caused by some rather severe and maybe rapid control inputs. Maybe turbulence added to that too. I don't want to criticize the guy without knowing what really happened though...
@markushandlemeyer6717
Thanks for the info my friend.
So what do you do in a situation like that where your far from the boat and flying on fumes without the ability suck the go go juice from the tanker? 🇦🇺🇺🇲
@@ashhawk2346 for chopping off the probe end with the rotors, we were warned during training that this was possible but I never knew it happened when I was flying them (80's and 90's). Good to know its not fatal. What used to scare me was the big electric spark/bolt that occurred visibly at night right when the probe got within about 6" of the probe. All the physics classes I had taken in college were forgotten and my fear of a catastrophic detonation/ignition of the fuel to both aircraft took over. Obviously its absolutely normal !
@@johno9507 you're not supposed to EVER be relying on the tanker fuel only. Should always have a bingo (emergency destination) to go to if there is a failed rendezvous or malfunctioning air-to-air refueling system. "Should" is the key word - shit happens !
I never had, any doubt, about the pilots skills, while I served in HM-12 and 14. I would lay on the ramp, and look forward, under the a/c ,to clear the tail, during night landings at the army base. anybody could turn a helo using the main rotor as the rotation point, or even in a nose down position, but it takes skill, to rotate with the tail rotor being the fixed point, while crew work on bringing in those, floats and gear. we did it in RH-53D, we had to Hussle. best time of my life. line shack for Life.
Helicopter aerial refueling has got to be the scariest thing I've ever seen.
I was in HM-14. 70-80's. flew almost every day, on something, even if just a fam flight. and never got to experience an air to air refueling. we were in the RH models. the MH models, had just arrived at the training squadron, HM-12.
1) Academy kit of the Sikorsky MH-53E Super Stallion USMC Heavy Lift Helicopter.
2) Italeri kit of the Lockheed Martin C-130 Hercules USMC Transport.
Both in 1:48th scale
3) H-53 Super Stallion Walkaround (Carrollton, Texas: Squadron Books)
Who can model this airborne diorama?
Working along these was an amazing time. SK at HM 14
Nicely done. Great skill by the U.S. Navy pilots. Massive respect 🇺🇸🇬🇧💪
You call these guys , studs on both ends fixed wing and rotor , they are as always at the top of their game , they hit the hole
pretty awesome footage, thanks for posting it
I could so see a gunship variant of the echo
would be a huge fuckin problem when these things suddenly transforms in midair.
Great video brother! Keep up the great work. 👍👍
Really impressive
Smiling, old memories. HM-12 Sea Dragons.
I remember doing FRAC there for both RH and MH
The CH-53 has an iconic shape/look like the 747 does...An All American!
Looks easy and fun, Doesn't it???? Turbulence can be tough on approach to refueling from C 130!! These are Marine and Navy Helo pilots ,ALL WEATHER AIRCRAFT, ALL WEATHER PILOTS.
What speed does the helicopter ang airplane have during an air refueling?
That is so fucking cool
Nicely done....
Only thing I saw that amazed me was the red horse on the side, I didn't think those boys knew how to fly. Why in you took the red emblem off the side I could of sworn their would be a Blackhawk under it. Was in that squadron back in 87.
FLY NAVY!
YUP! I want one! I think I will need the Herk tanker and crew too!
Do they pay with credit card ,wire transfer or with bitcoin?
Paypal.
JazzBariMan Thanks 👍
I worked an A/C 17 today interesting to find this video lol
I was a mud Marine (73-77) so I do not know much about the helicopters. Do the Russians and Chinese have helicopters that refuel like this. Semper Fi.
Yes they are capable of air refueling over the past 25 years we have been doing it for well over 50 years.
Just like Un Rep between two ships at sea underway. We perfected that evolution and trained all Nato allies the same system. Russia and China has Helicopters capable of lifting light loads they just don't practise it enough for operations
@@dalewright3667 thanks for the information. Semper Fi and greetings from Charleston, WEST Virginia
If you ever need a video to explain how much rotor blade flex as they retreat... this is it!
there is no app for this
I wonder how tanky these are
In order to refuel helicopter, it should be a low speed tanker, such as the KC-130, right? Does anyone know what speed they perform the operation? It seems to be very very dangerous. Congratulations to the people doing it.
Helicopters are refused by C-130s
Is this how baby helicopters are made?
are these helikopters, SUPER STALIONS. ? tell me. greetings from the Netherlands
Seadragons
Warren Adams thanx mister. Are these the super type, greetings from the Netherlands ( lex )
They are the United States Navy ch-53e sea dragons a nice chopper
Yes, Sikorsky CH-53E Super Stallion, built to U.S. Navy specs and called a Sea Dragon.
@@alien5610 The Navy MH's (MH-53E Minesweepers) are referred to as Super Stallions.
The thing that comes close to a bird is a helicopter, not a plane...
Wow
You have to be really really desperate to do that...
A helicopter flying at the same speed as an aeroplane, wrestling who knows what air flow from the wings.
When that becomes your best bet, you are way deep in it.
Class flying.
Dougal Tolan nothing really desperate about it..they train for it and most likely do it on every “mission”
@@dirtdevil70 But its barmy, as barmy as sending a fleet of Vulcans from UK to The Falkland Islands and back non stop.
Sure they practice, but if thats the best logistical solution them you are way out on a limb.
How else would you suggest a helicopter refuel on a rescue mission that takes it several hundred miles from Hawaii? There are no gas stations out in the Pacific and we had to send 2 helicopters to an aircraft carrier to pick a sailor up back in 1983. Refueled on the way out and on the way back. But our crews practiced it every day.
whats the plane speed for this?
357th_Hendrix
maximum speed: 196 mph
cruising speed: 173 mph
Thx bro
357th_Hendrix normal Helicopter air refueling is done at 110 knots.
Ahhh the ole dinosaur death machine... Time for a instrument and engine upgrade... Killed 134 people since 1974... Much respect to the men and women who maintain and fly these big boyz.🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸MAGA proud🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
You’re talking out of your ass. And you sight the number killed like something to be proud of. Those numbers don’t ever apply to the MH-53E as it’s not the same aircraft as the CH-53 variant. My brother was a Sea Dragon Airframer in HM-14 for 5 years, while I was a Hornet Driver in VFA-105. Both of us served during OEF/OIF between 2001 and 2009, and our mother didn’t sleep a whole night through the entire time. We actually WERE the men who maintained and flew. If I come off as irritated or pissed off it’s because your “MAGA proud” BS just made me lose all respect for you and your opinion. We sure as hell weren’t fighting for you or your world views!
@@rjminar1980 I really couldn't give 2shits if you respect me OR not.. THAT comment was a year ago.. you're A little late for the party soldier.. and the number of fatalities were from a documentary.. so.. relax... Quit taking you tube comments in your ass.. it was definitely not personal.. but you definitely just spit out statistics like you were reading them from notes. I'll only wait 6 months for your response... 👌.. not A year. Because you're definitely coming across like A Obama lover.. NOW THAT'S talking out of my ass... See the difference???
@@johnnydavis8351 what
Refueling while in pursuit..
Pavelows are so thick
Fucking amazing!
wow that thing is big... i mean.. huuuuge
That's what she said.
Trump 2020
How cares about that guy