Who is the most attractive Kpop idol? (Girl group)
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2021
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Who is the most attractive Kpop idol to you?
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ITS KARINA FRO AESPA
JIU FROM DREAMCATCHER
Sana from twice. The most versatile beauty.
@@clownzen4450 and thats on period
lisa blackpink 😎
CHUNGHA! not a big fan of her music but she looks like royalty
would you watch a one hour long 128 idols ideal world cup lol
Yes! That sound like such a dream video 😍😍
Yesssssss include 2nd generation idols and actresses!! Like where is SNSD!?
Yuppp!
Yesssssss
Pfttt yesss!!!
Literally no one:
Absolutely nobody:
Not even BTS:
Danny: She has stories in her eyes
Lol
Yah that's my girl Yoojung
I think Yeji has a good balance of edge and pure beauty. So I can see how she can fit both of their types.
Have you seen her truly without makeup? Because of her unique slant eyes, the makeup artists were able to accentuate it and make her look good.
@@ignatiuschua5268 idk if you just worded it weirdly or if you're insinuating she doesn't look as good without makeup, but even so she's more beautiful without makeup. She looks calmer and more soft without makeup
@@finnlinnsone Have you actually seen her without makeup. I did think she was worthy to be the visual in the group. When I saw her without makeup, her ranking fell straight to the fourth.
@@ignatiuschua5268 lol are u a hater... I bet u r not as prettty as her even without the makeup
@@ignatiuschua5268 she literally looks so soft & cute without makeup. wtf are you on?!
I also think it would be really cool if you guys did a skill based one for male and female idols. Or even a “make your own Kpop group” out of active idols. But you have to adhere to the traditional “visual, main vocal, lead vocal, main dancer, lead dancer, leader, maknae, etc.) roles.
nice idea!
@@DKDKTV yess! skill based Olympics we need!!
Ooh, a fantasy idol group similar to fantasy football...
traditional group roles suck, they pretty much limit the role of the member in the groups and they get less recognition than they can.
@@jeanque2130 traditional group roles DO suck and, given the growth that Kpop has seen and the talent that they now have access to, they have become outdated and kind of pointless.
But I think in this case it’s necessary to ensure that someone doesn’t just pick a bunch of visuals and their fantasy group doesn’t end up being well rounded.
What’s your type?
Nobody:
Danny: eye stories
Your eyes tell 🤭
‘I just like girls’. That’s pretty basic.
V. Hahaha...
I'm joking hahaha.
funny how they both said they'd be intimidated by the strong looking type but ended up picking Yeji😂
Yeah, it's funny as fuck LMAO
But off stage she is so sweet. Some of the others can look stern offstage like Irene and Jennie. No shade, they are among my favorites.
The girl being whipped for sana is a big fat mood.
i mean i can relate sm
I mean who doesn't-
@@loislo8954 me
Yeji's a solid, honest pick. Her unique beauty makes her stand out even against the usual powerhouses.
And good prediction with Karina! Another unique but stunning beauty.
Danny: Reading stories in the girls eyes
David: Making up stories in his head about his life with the girls
When they're worried about Yoojung being a minor, but Yeji is actually younger 🤣
Oh snap really??
@@paulamorris4811 yea yoojung is 22 lol
@froggymuds no she's 24
*Sana is my final pick. She has a really pretty nose and i like her physique*
PERIOD no sana no life
Yes.
sana is really beautiful
@@witcherye and charismatic and intimidating and cute and adorable all together, basically an all rounder in all fields, queen can pull off all concepts effortlessly
@@sharanmen0n i won't disagree, she's not real, girl is totally CGI
Honestly Jennie is really different, there’s something about her that makes you look at her, like she has this intimidating but at the same time cute face that makes her stand out, I don’t stan her but I can’t deny that she’s really attractive.
Jennie Jennie Jennie!!!
Agreed, I think she really stands out and that makes me find her more attractive then the women who have typically beautiful faces
Arrggg it's Jennie's aura which trap people. She is not a perfect beauty and thats what makes me love her more.
I'm the oddball that doesn't get the Jennie hype....Jisoo on the other hand...
Agree , same opinion
The girl being whipped for twice is such a mood. Her reaction for sana said whipped.
I mean if I would be in this video this video would be so chaotic
Twice is bae
I agree, Yeji is captivating, but all those women are beautiful.
sorry, Not Beautiful ones are: Amber and Jeongyeon
No guys would chose them
@@MlGHTY1 I love choose them
Fact
"Jennie got the rich girl aesthetic which I'm kinda intimidated by bcs I'm poor" hahah IKR. Btw, my pick is Jennie, girl has a small face, got the babyface type but at the same time she normally didn't act like cutie instead her visual is more into fierce, ice, calm and elegant, i adore that contrast of visual.
Jennie is my ultimate dream girl.
@@ignatiuschua5268 I'm a girl, but if I was a boy i will defo say "I'm with you" in this comment.
@@notsuperkingcowbabytv Have you watched Michuri Village ep 1? I believe this variety show showed so many unique aspect of Jennie which you can't see anywhere else.
Literally she has such a babyface I was shook when the world was attacking her for looking "cold" or "rude". SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS A PERMANENT BABY FILTER ON AND SHE'S SUCH A SOFTIE WHAT DO YA'LL MEAN SHE COLD AND RUDE
@@ignatiuschua5268 yea I've watched it. Fr she's really adorable there. That another side of her is literally the opposite of her visual look. That's i love abt jennie, the duality never goes wrong.
They said Yeji and Karina are trendy right now, so they pick both who is trending. Could have saved 30 minutes lmao
They are gorgeous
but yeji and karina are both gorgeous regardless of if they're trending or not and I personally think karina is the best visual to come out of kpop ever. either way, it makes sense why they picked yeji
I dont understand why going for 'basic' taste is looked down upon. Beauty is subjective and anyone can find beauty in anything.
It's considered basic because that very subjectivity you mentioned is lost. It's sheep mentality. "Oh the society says she's pretty so I find her pretty too." People who grow up amidst strict beauty standards think that's the only way of being beautiful and it's indeed basic.
@@littlebrownrunninghood689 some people can actually think a thing or person is pretty irrespective of what the majority feels. I can genuinely find a person's 'stereotypical' beauty beautiful too. That doesnt mean others aren't pretty. Ya'll make it sound like it's bad. I'm not for hating or belittling others opinions or others beauty, but liking 'basic' beauty shouldn't be frowned upon.
True
@@rheadsouza4281 nobody said it's bad to like someone with stereotypical beauty. I'm just saying it's basic in the sense that there's nothing interesting about the fact that you like that person. It's like "oh you think she's pretty?" "alright."
I agree
As a Stan of Yeji I’m proud that more people appreciate her beauty and the fact that is not a face that’s not seen often in the korean industry
For me Jennie and Suzy are such a beauties, Jennie has very memorable face and this cold, elegant vibe and Suzy in my opinion is just perfect, she really has the most beautiful face in kpop, i dont even stan miss A but she is wow
The guy saying that picking between Suzy and Jennie is like picking between mom and dad, i feel you!
For me Suzy is the mostttt beautiful idol everrrrr. Though there are a lot of pretty idols these days bt SUZY is on another whole level , her ethereal beauty is something else, top tier visual. She is UNTOUCHABLE just like David said ❤
That's true 😍👍
Yeah, Yeji is captivating. I think she was one of the prettiest of all idols.
1. Irene (stop being a hater, Kelsey!)
2. Jihyo
I hate the way they talked about her
Kelsey keep sayin Irene being bitchy while she's being bitchy as well lmao, jealous much? This is a game about idol's visuals yet she decided to bring Irene's issue when she doesn't even know Irene personally
Stop being weird M A
She has a reputation as a bad person in the industry for a reason. 💀When the scandal appeared several staff members defended Seulgi but no one defended Irene. Only after it came to light that it was her other members of the company came out to defend her hahaha. It is very obvious that the company was trying to improve her image.
Not only the stylist but more people complained about her, stop being blind. She may be pretty but she is very narcissistic and fake.
@@RD-ew2hx Many people who worked with her defended her.What are you talking about?💀
For me its Jung Wheein. She's cute, charming, and spunky at the same time and it's all balanced. ugh
For me too💜
Same
Sameeeew ✨👄✨
True my ult bias 😍 Once you WheeIn you can't WheeOut 😉
Yaaaah
For me I think all the Mamamoo members are all super pretty.
10:38 18:27 what wrong with that girl ? Why her attitude like that?
Irene have bad attitude? Then why u take a naked selfie in ur instagram gurl? Ewhh
I would pick Jennie or Jihyo or maybe Nayeon. Jennie cuz her features make her look kinda sassy but at the same time young and soft. She definitely stands out. Jihyo because I find her really pretty. She looks gorgeous when she smiles and I like her eyes ; she's got beautiful eyes. Nayeon cuz she stood out to me when I first checked out twice. Idk why but her face reminds me of Hobi lol idk something about her cheeks and maybe side profile a bit. She looks like a happy-go person
His perception of yoojung is still stuck in 2016 lol she’s an adult
she's been in 2 groups by now how would she be a minor still with that much experience in the industry omg...
I love Irene. She's a gorgeous
100%
"I would like her to stop over me"
The girl keep saying Irene has a bad attitude and being bitchy and the boys was like thts why they like her more. Lmao
Anyway she’s being bitchy as well but of course she doesn’t realise that
@@NS-bu7ig Lol right. That girl Kelsey can't stop talking about Irene's personality issue, it made her sound salty and judgmental tbh.
I think Jennie. There s something about her face and her figure that is not perfect every angle but very charming, unique I guess it’s like addictive to look
Agree her look is very addicting, that’s perfect way to describe it
Irene is beautifull than you 🤪 how dare you say her bad attitude? Have you ever met her in person? Please 🙄
fr not her literally ignoring the context of irene’s actions lmao
@@angie-iy4by There's no context. In the stylist's post, she said that Irene walked into the room and started shouting at her. They were already wary of her because of rumors from co-workers.
You know Sana just hits different for girls haha her charms are sooo deadly for girls 😆
Yes. She makes me question whether I'm straight 😂
Not me
This is so true
😂😂
This is so true
😂😂
Probably should check out Sana, because the only Korean celeb who can make me questioning my sexual orientation is Han So Hee😂
Tzuyu is above the visual, she is the visuals of visuals, a queen of visual, I really like her personality she doesn’t show much her of feelings but she has great sense of humour. before she wasn’t like this but after that incident she became so terrified that she loose her confident to speak among public or to express herself in audience.
That is so true that never crossed my mind she got way quiet after that incident thanks for pointing out. She's opend up a little in recent times I'm happy about that
Alternative title Danny and David fighting for yeji for 33 mins lmao. Yeji is one of a kind. This line really suits hers but if you follow her she’s trying a new more calmer face style that is also so beautiful. She’s honestly amazing and many might not know but she’s a very lovely and cute girl too.
I totally agree, yeji is sooooo pretty and such a sweetheart to boot, I would have picked her too. Also unbeatable talentwise as an idol imo.
Yeji was my instant itzy fave when i first saw them. I would have picked her often too but i think hwasa is my all time favourite female idol 😍
for me, i would say that Wheein from Mamamoo, she is so beautiful
SAME!
Yeji is a beauty Goddess there's no way she's real nor human
Yeji is the most beautiful girl in the K-pop industry, I think.
For me Irene is just a goddess 😤💕
Same💞💞💞💞💞
Me too.
Irene is on another level,
Purely physically Jennie is one of the most beautiful women I've seen. Attitudes aside.
Also, special shoutout to Suhyun from AKMU.
Everyone have good day or bad day don't judge person by one mistake have u ever heard about Irene side she will never express herself never she will never cry infront of others and plz be respectful bcz irene had a one bad day don't mean she has bad personality
I’d say Jennie! Idk there’s something so captivating about her, I think she’s gorgeous!
Also can’t forget to mention Sana and yeji! so so pretty
I think she's classically beautiful.
Why that girls really hate irene tho? Everyone has a problem but irene’s problem just got exposed so what
She probably jealous bc Irene is way far prettier than her lmao its so obvious girl
Btw What's wrong with her neck? She looks like old woman with 5 childern
cz irene is prettier than herself
Irene’s problem is treating the people below her poorly (basically bullying). It is not okay, and it should not be condone just because she’s a celebrity and everyone has problems and hers just got exposed. If that was the case, no celebrity’s scandals and wrong doings can ever be held against them.
Lastly, people who attacks others personal looks are the lowest of the lows. Just because you disagree with her, that doesn’t give you the right to make fun of the way she looks.
@@sunshinemoua5277 you talking like she "always" yelling at her staff, who are you? Did you follow her schedule or what? Smartass
Jennie, Rosé, Suzy, Sana, Yeji, Karina, Joy, Yiren, and Minnie are my favorite visuals in Kpop. Something about each of them struck me from the beginning and my eyes always go to them.
Jennie's aloof, tough persona is just her idol image. In reality she's actually the meekest member of BP and it is adorable.
y do i feel like the girl is trying to convince them so hard to choose the twice members🤣🤣
Well it's understandable, twice got them personalities and they are all so fucking beautiful. Everyone is whipped.
@@clownzen4450 ikr they’re amazing, best girls. Its just that people have different preferences and we are all entitled to choose whoever we wanna choose.
I would have just said Sana throughout the whole video and save 33:43 minutes lmao
@@artisticart2394 but at the end he (2nd one) still chose twice when there was any other girl. Twice best girls.
@@clownzen4450 u mean david? uhmm he chose yeji tho? i mean they both did. But seriously, as I said, twice is amazing so persuading people into choosing them to the point of bringing other people’s issue hence Irene’s scandal is really not necessary at all. Twice best girls, no doubt. So there’s really no point in convincing people🤷🏻♀️
lol! Danny initially picks Hyuna over Yeji without much hesitation, only to pick a different pic of Yeji over Hyuna a minute later. Such a fickle heart haha
Im so intimidated on how the girl keeps on pointing Irenes' personality. Like girl you call the game "who is the most attractive" ? I also find it toxic to compare girls beauty base on some1 elses standards
Exactly. I mean if you don't even know Irene personally just keep ur mouth shut and never judge people's personality by a one side fabricated story only
« i also find it toxic to compare girls beauty base on someone else’s standard » are you ok ? You literally following kpop while kpop is known to overhype korean girls beauty like « visual » position so this is quite natural that people take this opportunity to compare females each other ..
@@hnm9924 as much as I’m a red velvet Stan u need to stop sugar coating every idols mistake. Irene had acted inappropriately against the stylist and has already owned up to her past mistakes from the situation. Both the company and the people involved have spoken up and has apologized. We can agree that at the moment Irene acted poorly and u should let them grow and learn from there mistakes instead of covering it up since it’s ur “fav”
@@nicccck4420 did I sugar coating Irene's mistake? Which part of my words that say so? All I said was "never judge people's personality by one side fabricated story only" bc we never know the real story from Irene's side, why she behaved that way towards the stylist. Even the stylist didn't state this either. That stylist only stated WHAT Irene did, not WHY did Irene acts like that. Was it professional reason or personal? And by fabricated --yeah bc later on turns out that stylist is some kind of problematic, so the story from the stylist's side "might be" exaggerated. Aside from that, I agree Irene was wrong at that time, but then can we call Irene has a whole bad/bitchy personality? Nope, unless you know her very well personally. I hope u got my point
Exactly calling her bitchy was way too much.
That girl in middle she hats Irene so much plz if u Don't say good things about Irene don't bring Irene or visual topic In your videos be responsible
I would probably pick Yeji, or Solar or Hyolyn.
These three are just "wow"
its SANA for me. she has a tipical japanese royal princess looks, her beauty is mesmerizing.
Me too
IU is number 1 for me.. surprised she wasn't included !
She’s basic
@@kelvinzhang36 then everyone is below basic
This is for girl group members
@@vindruer5476 chungha is solo and so is somi
@@greenbananas12378 chungha is previously in a girl group but yeah, it seems like the girl with them was the one who gathered the list, anyway , it is subjective. I choose IU too 🙌
Suzy ❣️ the most beautiful girl
THE GODDESS 👑
Yeji would be my pick too! Her aura is amazing 🥰
Hwasa is my pick. I like that she's the most the different looking.
Funny how everyone thinks Hwasa is intimidating because of her on stage personality. She's a fluff ball in real life.
Ikr
@@littlebrownrunninghood689 Exactly! She's really quite down to earth.
I looooooveeeee HWASA SO MUCH
@@littlebrownrunninghood689 right she doesn’t have an intimidating personality
Sana hands down is the prettiest idol for me, such a versatile beauty not to mention her extremely fun and charming personality.
Yeah, her personality makes her even more beautiful
jun has entered the chat
@@zefersanity6537 ???
@@clownzen4450 its a joke some idiots are shipping jun n sana
@@zefersanity6537 oh I know that, they really be thinking every idol with same background is dating.
i mean i know u guys were joking but on a serious note, that one incident shouldnt define irene’s entire personality. like u said everyone has those moments it just so happened that hers was publicized
Say it LOUDER. This bothered me so much
@@lysdjd4568 EXACTLY
@Ananya Subramani rumors which people that worked directly with irene disagreed to. more than 140+ people that worked with irene publicly defended her while the stylist also had an altercation with f(x) and a member back when they were active. we werent there, and situations like these arent always black and white so we shouldnt take sides and make the situation as a joke. the important thing is she already apologized three times. publicly and privately directly to the stylist and they both agreed to move on from it. it’s no use to keep bringing the issue back when it’s already been dealt with and we have no part in it.
Yeji is just very unique looking. Some pics of her actually make her look alien.
Irene Best Girl
Irene Best Leader
Apologize to Irene
These mfs can really try to be more respectful
I love Kelsey actually as a regular guest. She adds a nice open minded female perspective. I like the dynamic that you three have together too.
Great video!
My top visual pick would either be Irene or Karina. They both look so unreal
ayyy finally someone mentioning Karina
@@kpop-tdoong6978 in the end of the video they talked about karina
Sana with her Shiba Inu face, natural aegyo and gae personality is a whole package 📦
No SANA no life
KARINA AND IRENE IS THE TOP VISUAL NGL
Irene is another level
Yeji would always win for me no matter what. But this would be so hard during all the rounds and would basically be Danny during this.
Saying irene is "bitchy" when you dont even know the whole story 😒
Oh take a look at her instagram acc @kelseyjeong_98 and see who is betch 😂
@@dejan0384 Thx I will absolutely full her comment section with beautiful words 💀💀
Kelsey isn’t saying that Irene is bitchy overall as a person. She’s affirming that Irene was bitchy at that moment of the scandal, and I would heavily agree. The fashion editor stated that Irene was screaming at her while pointing at the editor’s face for 15 mins straight. SM also confirmed that this did happened.
No matter the mistake the editor made, Irene’s actions were extremely unnecessary and belittling. She could of handled the situation in a kinder manner. For example, proper criticism or requesting the higher ups to remove the editor from her position.
So yes, Irene was “bitchy”.
@@howuknowimnotbig506 are y'all children or what
How they could defend this abuser childish girl ewww
Definitely Miss Jennie💗 She is so caring to those she loves, and personally I love a strong girl with a luxury face. Like Jennie has that quality of turning anything to luxury, even if she is wearing like $20 T shirt
True!
She's judging Irene attitude without any evidence and doesn't know the truth
Can't even look to her attitude , watch youre mouth dear then tell me who has a bad attitude
*take a shot everytime danny says "eyes"* 😂😂😂
Jennie, chungha and yeji are my faves so I understand totally how they both felt LOL good picks!
David and danny expression while talking about karina is a whole mood!!!!!
According to me
Yoona,Suzy- 2nd generation
Irene- 3rd generation
Karina,yeji-4th generation
The girl saying Irene have personality becaude tht issue people are al dramatic with celebraties the stylish did a bd job she can no get mad 🥴
I'm a woman and Yeji is my final pick too haha! I am usually not attracted to people with sharp features but Yeji is an exception. She's one of most attractive women I've ever seen, in and out of kpop. She's beautiful, a one of a kind beauty
Same
Yeji is 21 years old in international age
And 22 in Korean age
Yoo irene has step on me vibe and i want that Notice me Senpai ✋✋✋
How funny that solar and irene are both 31liner
That girl seems like she is an irene anti haha 😂
Well, yeah no joke which is disappointing as fuck
Irene wasnt bitchy :)
Danny (talking about Irene): I like girls with attitude. I want her to step on me
same bro. same.p
Kelsey: David, ya basic 👀
Danny: ends up writing really pretty poetry about Yeji 👍
I really don't know what's your point by calling irene bitchy. For me, irene is the greatest unnie and leader. I think every reveluv know that. She's so kind, and you make the one -not so scandal- is the reason to call irene like that? Like-what? Seriously? Do being an idol means that you cannot being ennoyed with someone, and you didn't even know what's happen behind that. Bruh, i'm tired of people who keep saying irene has a bad attitude. Beside, you keep saying irene bitchy without even knowing you are the one who become a-bitchy too
What a butthurt obsessed kpop kid fan!!! She said the truth! Irene is bitchy n narcissist. I wish one day she would scream at u for 20 min!! I know u would be happy...it makes me laugh lol
So many people find her bitchy because of her scandal. This girl can think different than u!
@@thealchemist437 shut it Kelsey
Yeji is a true beauty of a kind
10:40 and 18:10 both times saying Irene had a bad personality or outright calling her “bitchy” obv a hater on our hands. That’s ugly
Yeah, that was annoying asf
Jennie stands out, she’s THAT girl
fun video but was there a reason for kelsey to include irene in this if she was continuously gonna shade her n influence the boys not to choose her...if u think she is such a bad person why include her in this...we dnt even know the full truth abt that controversy so really dissapointed with kelsey
My ranking will be
1.SANA
2.IRENE
3.TZUYU
4.NANCY
5.ROSÉ
OMG I cannot believe Danny and David BOTH picked YEJI! ❤😂😂😂💯
Apologize to IreneIrene is prettier than you, it's a fact😝🤟Apologize to Irene
Plastic surgery yeah i guess
@@zitariri3097 danggggggg
@@zitariri3097 Half of the idol in K-pop industry did plastic surgery anyways.
For me, My Top4 will be Umji Gfriend, Wheein Mamamoo, Yeji and Ryujin ITZY
omg yessss Wheein can literally step on me and ask me to eat sh^t
Omghad ofcourse JENNIE is my final pick.... But where is IU ??? WE NEED PART 2
Jennie is perfect...like she isn't my bias in BP, but her face is so beautiful that you would stare like her in awe
Most gorgeous idol ever
I would go for Sana all the way, her charms are on another level!!
Karina is just new to the industry but I can say that she's now on the top. She is just the standard for me, she is so beautiful like her presence is so powerful.
Yeji is pretty too! ❤
yes she and yeji will be top opponents
I agree, she radiates feminine energy and is extremely beautiful
She got surgery she doesn’t count
@@Jnkfragile Hey Beautiful, it doesn't matter, to bad you are just jealous. Hey, I bet you are a wonderful person, but jealousy doesn't get you nowhere. So chill out, all of us women should stay in our side and get along, not like your masculine energy that is hungry for competition. So in fact Karina is one of the most beautiful women on Earth. We all appreciate it don't we☺️.
cant compete with suzys visual. she is on another level
I've been a K-Pop fan for over 14 years now. I'd say my biggest crush back in the day (even now 👀) is the one and only *YOONA* from SNSD ❤️. She simply screams "beautiful". Another one would be *HYOYEON* from SNSD too.
Nowadays, I'd say Irene, Jennie, Chungha, Solar and Wheein have the most beautiful features, in my opinion. They're all 🔥
Check them all out without makeup and some of them will look worse than an Ajumma
Girll, you just jealous of Irene... That attitude issue is literally one side story... Irene just apologize without telling us wht really happen, and that stylist keep spill anything that we don't even know wht the truth is... Don't you ever mad?!, Ahhh, you are angel right that never mad to anyone else in this world and never curse to anybody, okay...
Sorry for my bad english, i just really want people to move on , they are okay right now, they apologize to each other... That's it
Chill I'm sure she didn't mean to say that , she probably was testing the guy and "attitude" is not an issue when you're defending your rights and struff
okay, the irene scandal actually happened bcs this stylist is shitting to the designer and irene just protected the designer and stylist got mad bcs of that and deciding to spread it online, we never heard irene side of this story, all irene thing is apologize and not really gave us insight abt what is going on, but the Designer just posted the clarification about what's actually going on back then,, in case no one are informed