I'm 47, been soaking in The Fall for a good while it feels so familiar, barely notice that it's part of you. Mark E. to me is like an older, wiser sibling, schooling you with acerbic beattitudes like an embattled, but still volatile classical philosopher as Socrates. How elegantly he turns a phrase. Into a weapon. Using bleak alliterations to put across the obvious ugliness meanness of the world, but the music lifts you up as the vocals/lyrics make you swagger and sneer a bit, even if they remain inscrutable-, to a degree, to the fan, they are the more so to a first-time listener and so the small though perennial pleasure of privately broadcasting The Fall!
You should become a professor in the doubtless future OU degree course in the subtle art of Fall lyrics interpretation into proper, logical and fully understandable English.
I came to the party very late - at 58. For the past six months I have played nothing else (apart from some Arab Strap). Better late than never. At least I have a huge body of music to delve into, so I'm happy with my late discovery, just sad that I missed seeing them live.
trust me my friend when on Form they were fantastic, i saw them a meagre 27 times at least & that's a low digit for your average Fall Fans of my Age! ✌️
Been a fall fan for about a decade and its weird how you hear some songs and think they are decent but not your favourite, then some day you put that same song on and you think wow this is absolutely genius! Well garden is one of those songs for me, i think it kinds sums the fall up, subtle genius
The very definition of hypnotic, both lyrically and musically. When the song ends, I always feel confused and have to try to think of what it was I had been doing before it began. Sometimes, I just go and listen to it again. Now that's music.
I was on the Fall Forum a lot in the early 00s and this came second in the first ever "battle of the songs" tournament, losing to Wings in the final. It was funny because even though most fans would not put this as their favourite Fall song, it seemed that no-one could bring themselves to vote against it, so it just kept going up and up the table. In effect, it was the song that everyone loved more than they *thought* they did.
I suppose I am what you would call a "fan" of the Fall , of course this is all bollocks , you either like the songs and the band and you identify with them,or you don't, and that's it . And ,oh yes what's a computer?
The Jew on a motorbike is a gentleman by the name of Sol Seaburg. Sol was the singer in a band called FC Domestos but was also our part-time van driver for the Fall and Smith family. When not driving the van, he rode a motorbike. :)
Yeah the very worst thing no more new albums no more gigs no more interviews, just hope there's something on his Dictaphones that's workable & recordable but yeah huge loss RIP The Chief✌️
Magnificent! Oddly this track passed me by first time around, or maybe my tastes have changed. Anyway, glad to make this songs acquaintance. Thanks Bony.
Haven't heard this version before - rivals the Peel Session verson very closely.....love to hear long forgotten previously unavailable gems - I second other comments here. It's the relentless riff , the bass line and kick-ass drumming that keeps you on the edge all the way through the song.....
@SPERANZA65 That particular Peel session was the first Fall recording that I ever heard. Taped it & replayed it until the cassette wore out. Still love it.
The first God had in his garden From the back, looked like a household pet But when it was twirled 'round Was revealed to be a 3 legged black grey hog See what flows from his mushy pen Garden, garden That person is films on TV 5 years back at least He's the "Young Generation" dancing troupe Trying to perform country and western Do a dance here Never since birth not eaten in a day Never since courtship stayed up some nights He had the 'Kingdom of Evil' book Under a German history book He was contrived like that See what flows from his slushy pen Garden, garden Small, small location on huge continet Sodomized by presumption Contrieved a past revealed at last Godzone, godzone Godzone, godzone (...his ferry stopped at 'Pool port. revealed to be spolit Slate with largesse resource Wild Bill hick, shaves and charts at last, made the second God sad - He's coming up...) Shotgun, shotgun Shotgun, shotgun The best firms advertise the least The second God lives by fountains That flowed by the blue shiny lit roads Had forgot what others still try to grasp He knew the evil of the phone He knew the evil of the phone The bells stopped on Sunday when he rose The bells stopped on Sunday when he rose He's here, he's here, at last I saw him! I swear! On the second floor Up on the brown baize lift shaft He's here! He's here at last! I saw him! I swear! A jew on a motorbike
Nothing but The Fall......Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire.....4.5 hrs of The Fall plus visuals.....the first ever all Fall night in the Uk......October 17th 2015.....
Was thinking of the stuff that didnt make it. Backdrop, Session Musician, Ludd Gang Putta Block. But that is why the Fall are brilliant. They dont compromise and try and spread a thin WShite Album.
Wow, never heard this version. It's a great new version that's older than the old new version if that makes any sense. I like this one better. For now :)
@diskochimp Great stuff!, after reading your comment i dug out my old cassette collection and found this that i too had recorded from Peel that night, but alas... tape had lost it's life!, thank God for Utube i now have it back!
Perverted by Language was the first Fall album I bought new, as a fan. I loved it then and still do now. What I didn't understand at the time was the impact of Marc Riley's departure on their sound. With a single guitar line-up for the most part (Brix is really barely on this one) PBL has a lean, sparse sound to it. I always enjoyed Riley's parts and songwriting, so I just can't help wondering what he would have brought to these songs. Hard to imagine...
Kinda lonely being a Fall fan here in Canada. Not too many of us by any stretch. Plus they rarely play here so I will probably go my whole life without seeing them live. I like all their different eras especially the Brix era & more recent periods like Heads Roll & Sublingal
They're never played on any country's radio, I suspect. (I live in Canada). Most rock 'n' roll radio D.Js are so stupid, unimaginative and chained to their computer-generated playlists that if they attempted to play anything with real imagination or passion, they'd have a fit, or bust a blood vessel, or something. Too bad for us, though, and too bad for the Fall. This should have been a hit.
Absolutely. Mobiles are the work of the devil. Young and old are addicted and there isn't even a buzz. Maybe we will discover some health problem from them in the future.
Huge fan of The Fall and love the images in this video, I'm archiving as many images of The Fall as I can find, where did you find the ones for this video? Thanks
Good = a different kind of influence - Smith was oblique in interviews but explicit in reference. Read 'The Outsider' by Camus - profound and simple, then read it again.
Hmm, only four days ago I wrote that? At least I got to drink a few beers with him, just he and I, once, in the 90's... but geesh 60 seems way too young, too many beers (hard living etc.)
I'm 70. This band just gets under my skin. I think more younger people will discover and emulate this stoic vision of life ..
@@stephane9544 you tell em, dude! Is your fucking age diferent from your biological age?
Good stuff..
Once again proved that age don't mean a thing. Cheers!
That's very optimistic. Lol
How is it stoic?
I'm 103 and i think this is poptastic
Class, from a Dinamo Zagreb fan
If Im 103 in Marks Garden, I will accept it: Drink, Discuss, shout and say "goodbye next time" :)
I'm 47, been soaking in The Fall for a good while it feels so familiar, barely notice that it's part of you. Mark E. to me is like an older, wiser sibling, schooling you with acerbic beattitudes like an embattled, but still volatile classical philosopher as Socrates. How elegantly he turns a phrase. Into a weapon. Using bleak alliterations to put across the obvious ugliness meanness of the world, but the music lifts you up as the vocals/lyrics make you swagger and sneer a bit, even if they remain inscrutable-, to a degree, to the fan, they are the more so to a first-time listener and so the small though perennial pleasure of privately broadcasting The Fall!
Very well expressed.
love your description! but one small disagreement: smith is definitely diogenes, not bloody socrates :p
shannon townsend inother words... the best band you ever heard, and I will drink to that
You should become a professor in the doubtless future OU degree course in the subtle art of Fall lyrics interpretation into proper, logical and fully understandable English.
Pretentious nonsense
I came to the party very late - at 58. For the past six months I have played nothing else (apart from some Arab Strap). Better late than never. At least I have a huge body of music to delve into, so I'm happy with my late discovery, just sad that I missed seeing them live.
trust me my friend when on Form they were fantastic, i saw them a meagre 27 times at least & that's a low digit for your average Fall Fans of my Age! ✌️
Been a fall fan for about a decade and its weird how you hear some songs and think they are decent but not your favourite, then some day you put that same song on and you think wow this is absolutely genius! Well garden is one of those songs for me, i think it kinds sums the fall up, subtle genius
Leg Ends grow on you...
‘The bells stopped on Sunday when he rose’ God speed Mark your utter genius will be sorely missed.
Well said
One of my favourite songs by one of the greatest bands of all time.
I shall be forever grateful to my son, Adam, for many things. Introducing me to The Fall is in the top ten of those things.
I feel like, lyrically, this is Mark's most self-indulgent piece. And I love it for that.
The very definition of hypnotic, both lyrically and musically. When the song ends, I always feel confused and have to try to think of what it was I had been doing before it began. Sometimes, I just go and listen to it again. Now that's music.
👌
Estranhamente belo!
Classic avant garde ,Velvet Undergroundesque song, so bizarre,lyrically obtuse but still makes wonderful sense after all these years.
I was on the Fall Forum a lot in the early 00s and this came second in the first ever "battle of the songs" tournament, losing to Wings in the final. It was funny because even though most fans would not put this as their favourite Fall song, it seemed that no-one could bring themselves to vote against it, so it just kept going up and up the table. In effect, it was the song that everyone loved more than they *thought* they did.
Yes this is one of the great Fall songs, without a doubt.
Winfs as in McCartney?
I suppose I am what you would call a "fan" of the Fall , of course this is all bollocks , you either like the songs and the band and you identify with them,or you don't, and that's it . And ,oh yes what's a computer?
The Jew on a motorbike is a gentleman by the name of Sol Seaburg. Sol was the singer in a band called FC Domestos but was also our part-time van driver for the Fall and Smith family. When not driving the van, he rode a motorbike. :)
Genius, what a masterpiece of a song. RIP Mark E ~X~
What a great dirty twangling song. Just incredible. PERVERTED BY LANGUAGE must be one of the Fall's best albums.
Agreed on both the dirty twangling sound and best album. This guitar clangor always reminded me of certain Velvet Underground moods.
RIP Mark E Smith. This had to be the song I came and listened to first after hearing the news.
Me too. Melancholic, but it soars.
...makes sense your choice, an epic masterpiece of a song.
I went to my vinyl and found some bright green one!!
Masterpiece.
I'm lucky. I got into The Fall early, City Hobgoblins, but this is the song that made me, you know, fall for The Fall. Brilliant. Astonishing, really.
this has to be in all fans top ten tracks...immense stuff...
Favourite song by favourite band.
Great song from this great but self destructive artist. May he rest peacefully. Luckily saw them live twice.
I like this much , much more now than then ! Very compelling !
The peak. And there were so many in 40 years.
Twin Peaks abound.
My favourite Fall Song. i'd normally say Rest In Peace but up there, there won't be any. Say hi to Peelie, Mark :(
The most prolific don van vliet influenced artist evvahh!!!
The Captain would have approved
I'm finding it hard to listen to The Fall after his death, knowing there's no more to come. I'm still very sad.
Yeah the very worst thing no more new albums no more gigs no more interviews, just hope there's something on his Dictaphones that's workable & recordable but yeah huge loss RIP The Chief✌️
Brilliant.
MES carved out his own niche.
Magnificent! Oddly this track passed me by first time around, or maybe my tastes have changed. Anyway, glad to make this songs acquaintance. Thanks Bony.
Haven't heard this version before - rivals the Peel Session verson very closely.....love to hear long forgotten previously unavailable gems - I second other comments here.
It's the relentless riff , the bass line and kick-ass drumming that keeps you on the edge all the way through the song.....
My favorite Fall song for many years.
just genius. how did i not start properly listening to the fall till i'm 38? like finding jesus or something
Jonathan Brown I started at 37 and just turned 38. I can’t stop listening to this album.
Welcome to our Church and - trust me - it's never too late
I'm 37 and it's the same for me over the last two years. Only now I'll never see the great man live. But at least we have the peel sessions!
Dunno, are you an American hedge fund analyst with a trust fund and a house in The Hamptons? That would explain it.
@Moyer. You should be fucking ashamed as well. X
Let's all nestle into this wonderful track and allow ourselves to ponder on the infinite wonder of everything.
tonight I shall walk in the velvet garden, look up to the stars and see you... what a mark :(
Well put mate.
brought a tear to the eye that one
I have never in my life seen Mark e Smith in a t-shirt until this vid, 1.10 and its got Nietzsche on it, gotta love this guy
The Master of the English Language in lyrical form !
Wasn't even look for this but.. perfection what more can be said.
Is there a better fall output than this. This song embodies the fall .
'The best firms advertise the least'
@SPERANZA65 That particular Peel session was the first Fall recording that I ever heard. Taped it & replayed it until the cassette wore out. Still love it.
Too good for words
agreed. this song is awesome, about time it was posted!
I feel a lot of coming since Mark died. What a shame that all these peeps didn't know him in his pomp.
The first God had in his garden
From the back, looked like a household pet
But when it was twirled 'round
Was revealed to be a 3 legged black grey hog
See what flows from his mushy pen
Garden, garden
That person is films on TV
5 years back at least
He's the "Young Generation" dancing troupe
Trying to perform country and western
Do a dance here
Never since birth not eaten in a day
Never since courtship stayed up some nights
He had the 'Kingdom of Evil' book
Under a German history book
He was contrived like that
See what flows from his slushy pen
Garden, garden
Small, small location on huge continet
Sodomized by presumption
Contrieved a past revealed at last
Godzone, godzone
Godzone, godzone
(...his ferry stopped at 'Pool port. revealed to be spolit
Slate with largesse resource
Wild Bill hick, shaves and charts at last, made the second God sad -
He's coming up...)
Shotgun, shotgun
Shotgun, shotgun
The best firms advertise the least
The second God lives by fountains
That flowed by the blue shiny lit roads
Had forgot what others still try to grasp
He knew the evil of the phone
He knew the evil of the phone
The bells stopped on Sunday when he rose
The bells stopped on Sunday when he rose
He's here, he's here, at last
I saw him! I swear!
On the second floor
Up on the brown baize lift shaft
He's here! He's here at last!
I saw him! I swear!
A jew on a motorbike
BLACK GREY HOG IS "JOZOZEFINA" WITH WINGS...........................................
Me finding The Fall now feels like when I found The Smiths when I was a moody teen
last GREAT Fall record. Everyone that followed was better than anyone else's record but the run of PURE GOLD ended here. MES - he is to be followed
Nothing but The Fall......Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire.....4.5 hrs of The Fall plus visuals.....the first ever all Fall night in the Uk......October 17th 2015.....
wish I'd have known in time...
This sounds even better now !!
"Wild Bill Hick shaves & charts... at last."
There are still (reg vardy) some real intellects about. I wrote this 2018. Long live the fall xxxx
Whole band on top form on this album. My favourite?
Just pure class,
this is a giant Fall song...like so many..but any song with "cook trader past" is genius
great video production :) well done!
Monumental.
Fucking amazing. You can hear the Arthur Machen in his lyrics - wow
Thanks for posting.
Was thinking of the stuff that didnt make it. Backdrop, Session Musician, Ludd Gang Putta Block. But that is why the Fall are brilliant. They dont compromise and try and spread a thin WShite Album.
A zoroastrian on a motor-scooter
He had a Kingdom of Evil Book, under a German History book.
He was-uh -contrived like that.
Not a clue what it means, but I know it kicks ass!
The best firms advertise the least.
Wow, never heard this version. It's a great new version that's older than the old new version if that makes any sense. I like this one better. For now :)
@diskochimp Great stuff!, after reading your comment i dug out my old cassette collection and found this that i too had recorded from Peel that night, but alas... tape had lost it's life!, thank God for Utube i now have it back!
Its good init!
Perverted by Language was the first Fall album I bought new, as a fan. I loved it then and still do now. What I didn't understand at the time was the impact of Marc Riley's departure on their sound.
With a single guitar line-up for the most part (Brix is really barely on this one) PBL has a lean, sparse sound to it. I always enjoyed Riley's parts and songwriting, so I just can't help wondering what he would have brought to these songs. Hard to imagine...
imo this is their last great record..became conventional and pop oriented after this
Craig was THE fall guitarist IMO. I think this is one of his
The Peel session for Garden is the best the the Fall ever recorded. Full 🛑 stop. Hands down. Beyond dispute.
Kinda lonely being a Fall fan here in Canada. Not too many of us by any stretch. Plus they rarely play here so I will probably go my whole life without seeing them live. I like all their different eras especially the Brix era & more recent periods like Heads Roll & Sublingal
am in germany and they are never played on the radio. never.
From what I can judge on UA-cam, the band is exceptional in the 2007-2010 years. Absolutely brilliant.
come to Toronto to see Mr. Pharmacist plays The Fall - all eras - facebook.com/misterpharmacist
They're never played on any country's radio, I suspect. (I live in Canada). Most rock 'n' roll radio D.Js are so stupid, unimaginative and chained to their computer-generated playlists that if they attempted to play anything with real imagination or passion, they'd have a fit, or bust a blood vessel, or something. Too bad for us, though, and too bad for the Fall. This should have been a hit.
John Peel played them all the time
all kinds of falling leaves in my garden.must be the fall.
This came second in the first ever Fall forum "best fall song" tournament, c2003 I think. Wings came first.
Genius Incarnate
In this song i can really hear where malkmus got some of his chops from
redstar7000 see also Leave the Capitol from the Slates EP. I mean, who wouldn't want to emulate these songs?
Yes,siree,this is so cool..
so much of it -the fall
'He knew the evil of the phone'.
Absolutely. Mobiles are the work of the devil. Young and old are addicted and there isn't even a buzz. Maybe we will discover some health problem from them in the future.
🎶I hear you listening in you telephone thing🚬🥴🍻...I'm tapped'ah
I find this to be an excellent slide show by the way
when it twirled rounddd... epic fuckin line
This is what I call 'Ear Candy' yum yum!, The Fall just piss all over anything bands around now come out with Fact!
this song is great. full fucking stop.
the bells stopped on Sunday when he rose...
Huge fan of The Fall and love the images in this video, I'm archiving as many images of The Fall as I can find, where did you find the ones for this video? Thanks
Essa parece ser a clássica do disco
Just totally alsome, Steve from florida
when it twirled round
one of the top
top stuff
Still awesome.
RIP MES
Gimme gimme more Mark
I confess, didn't even know this existed
Everything else sounds trite by comparison. The Fall are a double-edged sword in that way. Peerless.
So true. Mark E. Smith has colonized my mind lately; I don't wanna listen to anyone else except him and Brixie.
Ah, "peerless", so perfectly discerned----nail on the head my friend ! Indeed, 'tis so !!
YES!
They have quite a few pee-ers, don't they?
Absofuckinglutely. I hate MES, and I can't stay away from this music for long. Ever.
awesome. anyone seen the hacienda version? unbelievable seams of pure gold is just fucking mined out of the ether
A document. Mark Smith is Franz Kafka
If Franz Kafka is M.R. James.
Oh no, he's much funnier than that.
Maybe.
In the sense that they could clear a room in seconds.
D E D I C A T I O N Not
M E D I C A T I O N 🎵🎶🎵
damn good, no doubt
More GodNoise from the peerless Fall
am just reading camus. the fall.
Good = a different kind of influence - Smith was oblique in interviews but explicit in reference. Read 'The Outsider' by Camus - profound and simple, then read it again.
Some fantastic noises at around 6.34 just prior to the awesome jew on a motorbike.
Long live M.E.S.
Ive got some bad news for you .
Hmm, only four days ago I wrote that? At least I got to drink a few beers with him, just he and I, once, in the 90's... but geesh 60 seems way too young, too many beers (hard living etc.)
Double Double
and double.
Right up the A30 and Turn.......
Huge. important.
There's no best version, there's no best song. All early Fall songs are the best.
This one is up there tho