What Exactly is The Moto Guzzi Griso? | Muscle Cruiser VS Cafe Racer
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What kind of bike is the Moto Guzzi Griso? Is it a muscle cruiser or a cafe racer? I flew Josh in to help answer this question.
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As a Guzzi owner, I'm so happy when people get it! Guzzis DO have something characteristic. Not better. Characteristic.
I had Griso for 9 years and loves the bike. Little electrical problems but, which i solved. Great memories and moments in my memory with guzzi❤
Always nice to see a wild Josh appear.
Love these "two riders talking bikes" style videos!
when he said "this has a really heavy clutch", I felt that. 😅
First time riding my Griso home after buying it, I had to ride through city traffic, and it was murder on my left hand that was used to the gentle pull on my old VFR. 🤣
It's a quirky and interesting riding experience I would not recommend to anyone with less than 10 years riding experience, it will sometimes fight downshifts if you don't rev-match, and it pulls your arms out of the sockets when you give it a good pull at 4k RPM.
I always considered this a muscle bike, it's hard to categorise it any other way, it's too sporty to be a cruiser but it's not exactly sporty enough to be a 'naked' bike because it's so big and heavy.
I sometimes joke that it's the bike to satisfy both Ducati Monster and BMW R9T riders, it's got the 90 degree air-cooled V-twin with cylinders sticking out the side.
Yeah the Griso is totally do for a comeback with that new MG motor.
They’re gonna do another one!? Nice
Spit! I want to see you do a video on the Triumph Speed Twin.
It looks like a retro, but it rides like a crazy tork monster.
Loved this video and look forward to more videos featuring Josh. This era was very unique in bikes. You had a bunch of air-cooled, big twin nakeds, with the Griso, Monster 1100S, XB12SS, R1200R, MT01, XR1200X and if you open up to i4 you even have the CB1100. I wish companies would do more weird bikes like this again.
Nice video, and awesome Solar in the background of you're indoor videos!
Really enjoy your videos on the Griso! I recently picked up a Norge GT which shares the same engine, and it's interesting to see your perspective on the Guzzi. I plan on trying mine out at the track for fun next season too just to get to know it more! Underrated bikes with lots of character. Keep up the good videos!
Fun to see Josh again in the videos! Glad he enjoyed riding the Griso. To me it's more like a muscle cruiser as well.
Hey spite, you noticed it running rich. Have you gotten a beetle map on it and balanced the throttle bodies? Could make for a good video if you wanted some garage time.
JOSH! Nice to see you guys out for a ride together.
It's a cafe bruiser!
I think you nailed down a new bike category 👍
Congratulations sir
Good vid !
Glad to see one of my favorite suzuki simps on the channel. I wonder if Josh is taking good care of his Gen1 SV650.
Well they made a new Stelvio with the Mandello motor so there is a good chance they might do it with the Griso as well.
Me to Moto Guzzi: WELL? WE'RE WAITING!
Fellow Guzzi owner here v7 850 beautiful bikes and they make you feel special when you ride them and every ride is a lovely memory.. I don’t mind which category my bike fits into I just love it 😊 I’ve owned loads of bikes over my 30+ years of riding and nothing is like a Guzzi 😊 ❤ could I ask which gloves you are wearing ? Cheers Pete
I like this video format, it's like The Smoking Tire on bikes (and I mean that as a big compliment). Much more interesting than POV videos with one guy talking.
I just came across your channel. I own a couple older 80s MGs ( CX100 Lemans and 1000SP) just picked up the last few years. Totally different feel from modern sport twins I've owned. But I knew it ahead of time. I just wanted something different these days. Slower pace cruise mode. I hit the track for the speed on other bikes as needed. LoL. New to TX, ( Houston)and I guess you're in Hill country area from vids I've seen.
Good episode, i like muscle bikes!
Guzzi's are weird which makes them interesting. They're not an appliance like a NC750 or a Versys.
Nice video! You probably won't see this but would be cool if you test some Buells, like all the way from the tubeframe ones and up to the modern ones! I know you had one with Jammie, but thay was a XB9 I beleive and not the 1200-bikes?
😂Spite is a Guzzi afficionado! Remember back in the 90s going to AMA Superbike races with Nicky Hayden and Miguel DuHamel. Then they had some class solely of Guzzi power motorcycles, can only imagine seeing those was how Josh must have felt riding
Great video! I'm new to the channel, liked and subscribed. Without being to personal how tall are you fellows? I'm guessing that I am closer in height to Josh ( I am 5'7" and have a true, crotch to floor, 31" inseam) I'm not concerned about saddle height but was wondering what your opinion was in regards to handlebar reach for a shorter rider, and if Josh thought he would be comfortable for longer rides without having to do modifications. Thanks keep up the good work.
Hello Spite! Great bike, great content ;-)
Could I suggest a YT about full suspension settings… Griso is fully adjustable. And you are a “large human” :-D
Griso with a V100 engine a match made in heaven.
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Always liked the sound of a Guzzi....When the SFPD here in Cali had them in early 70's..
I’ve been wanting one since they came out with that 8 valve motor (before they were cool), I should jump on it now that I’m not broke anymore 😂
Guzzi is a brand I've been interested in for a while, but they just don't have enough presence. I'm in Vegas and could go to Eurocycles, but I wont' live in the city forever and know it'll be a loooong ride if I ever need to get one serviced. But I'm 100% down with their cafe racer and loved the look of their discontinued California cruiser. If they had step-by-step, Marine-proof videos showing EVERY maintenance you could perform on the bike, from valve clearance checks to troubleshooting, I'd pick one up in a heartbeat since I wouldn't have to worry about dealership distances, which is the only thing holding me back.
I have always brought my bikes to basic bikeworkshops in Finland, with no issue. Griso is quite basic bike. Maybe new ones like for instance Ducati needs those specials.
Licenced workshops of course.
I dont how it works in US? Cause everybody seems to worry about dealerships there. You cant bring your bike anywhere else you have bought it?
Not sure if you've looked around much but there's a lot of content on Guzzi maintenance out there since lots of Guzzi owners like to diy. I got a V85TT this year and have been stunned at how much there is for a relatively new and low production number bike. Cubbysue makes some great videos on V85TT maintenance (he served but I don't remember which branch). The other nice thing is the V85 and V9 engines are very similar so lots of the maintenance procedures are similar. Guzzi also sells their full maintenance booklets for cheap and you can often find free downloads online. If you do your own wrenching I think they're a great choice, I'd look around some more if you're really curious.
Nice to see Josh and Whitney appear
Would be nice to see an fxdr review
I'd love if you could "review" a diavel, that's what I'm thinking about getting and idk when I'm going to get the chance to ride one, so I'd like to get your thoughts
Suzuki M109r definitely belongs in the muscle bike class.
More Moto Guzzi content, please!
Love the Griso, I always wanted one. Now that I can get a 10 y.o. model, I can maybe afford one :-)
Most guys watch youtube videos to validate their motorcycle purchase, Spite creates his own.
I know this is a little off the subject but are the nelson rigg bags pretty good I've heard mixed things. Some say it's a Chinese bag with a mid range price. Others say. It's on par with sw motech with a reasonable price. I've never seen one in person.
Can you's legally import a Yamaha MT01?
Would be interesting seeing your perspectives of it, definitely seems like a muscle bike - not like either of the bike styles where it gets it's parts from (cruiser for the engine and sports bike for the chassis, suspension & brakes).
Spite have you ridden a Yamaha Super Tenere? You might find them to be somewhat similar to the Griso. Not super fast but what a motor!
Where are more videos about Griso @Spike?
Thoughts on the Indian FTR being a muscle bike?
Yo Spite, I just heard you saying the MT 01 had 80 hp and 110 nm torque. Maybe that’s the Canadian specs… in Europe, it has 90 hp and 150(!) nm torque… maybe you should come over here when you’re seriously looking for one…!? 👋😎
I´ve ridden the MT-01 for a few days and this thing IS weird! The Yam needs above 3k rpm but peaks out at 5k, so the true rev range is narrow (which is not a problem due to the vast amount of torque). Geometry- and suspension-wise the Griso beats the Yam in every single discipline once you get the hang of how a Guzzi wants to be ridden - which might take a few days. I can´t speak for the 1200, but the equally heavy and 20 hps "weaker" 1100 is a surprisingly capable sports-cruiser, that potentially draws a lot of its appeal from the difference between the agricultural engine and tranny and the refined road-manners and multitude of well-designed details. You usually think mid-corner "I could have entered this a lot faster" which speaks for itself.
In all these respects I´d vote for "sports-cruiser" rather than "muscle cruiser". My 1100 is my "sports-trekker" or the "flying menhir", depending on my mood. Either way, it always leaves a wide grin on my face.
Swapping the stock clutch master for a Brembo RCS16 was one of the few changes I made to my bike, but definitely worth every penny as it lightens the lever AND provides you with more travel with better actuation and improved feel. And on top you can adjust the clutch to your liking. You´d love this mod!
Two bikes I love! What are the odds?
Love Mine
I love my V85TT, runs hot but and the shifting is clunky, just things to get used to...
Honestly I hear people say that, but I test rode the F750GS before I got my 85TT and it felt much hotter, the gearbox felt much clunkier, and it felt way more top heavy. Very happy with my V85 in comparison
The heat issue gets improved a lot with the cat delete and an ECU change. At least it did a lot with my bike. I can’t speak much to the shifting. I love how my bike shifts. It didn’t feel perfect until I changed all the driveline oil…. Which if you haven’t I would strongly suggest you do as soon as possible.
@@matthatter93 Yeah, my bike is pretty new and still in warranty for a bit so I'm not sure I want to do a decat/tune yet, but I probably will eventually. Currently debating between doing the first service myself or having the dealer do it so that in case I have any issues later on it's on them and not me.
@@trevorkarrett3041 up to you. I did it all myself knowing I would keep this for a long time. I’ve only had mine 6 months now. Figured the warranty would only be effected for the exhaust because the tune can be reversed back to OEM if you go with the UPMAP tune. But don’t blame you for waiting til warranty is up. I will say if you let the dealer do the first service just ask to get the transmission and final drive fluid changed as well. It’s not in the service manual but it is a MUST. A lot of people have found less than recommended amount in both and there is a good amount of shavings in the fluid I initially. Typical shaft drive stuff but it’s not recommended til 6k miles and that would be a bad decision to wait that long.
Id call it a muscle fighter
You might be at odds with me here Spite.
But the air oil cooled BMW R1200R and the Griso aren't a million miles away from each other.
Entertaining machines to ride in real world conditions.
Comfortable
And the BMW has the luggage option.
Fun machines to have.
With a rough unrefined edge.
1:37 dude said 330 inch rear tire 😂😂😂 wth 🤦🏻♂️
Spite needs to start a petition to get all of the crappy dump trucks off of Lime Creek....perhaps a minimum speed limit 😆?
Beginning to feel like Grand Tour vs Top Gear
What do you mean?
This is almost identical in specs to a r nint. Same weight same hp and tourque within 3 percent, same shaft drive, same tire sizes.
The comment on feeling like a tractor are close to where it come from, with WW2 it having tracks at the back instead of a wheel. I had a 1989 Mark V.
Wrong.
When did they decide to do a Linus.
It's a UIM
(Universal Italian Motorcycle)
Whst's that? Something like, " If I want to get pampered. I'll get a Piagio 350 or a Honda Cub, or a Harley UltraGlide"?
Surely the Rocket III is a muscle bike?!
You really need a B King!!! Or a Valkyrie
The Grisso it's a THICC naked/standard/Universal Italian Motorcycle.
Not a lard ass, lead sled cruiser.
VMAX and Diavel, no cruisers either, just THICC nakeds.
I’d say the VMAX and Diavel are real muscle bikes. Big power and no windscreen.
It’s a standard naked.
So following the Griso being a muscle bike, does that mean the BMW R9T is ?
they’re both standard nakeds with a retro flair. It’s really not an enigma
@@carlosandleon
Not suggesting it’s an enigma, it was a rhetorical statement.
Take a shot everytime they say muscle bike in this video
UA-cam should take this comment down for promoting self harm 😂
Im sorry but theres only 3 muscle bikes, vmax1200, honda v65 , 1200 madura....the sketchiness of a overpowered torque monster in an 80s inadequate frame and tires...those are muscle bikes.
The 1700 vmax(muscle cruiser) rocket 3 gen 1 m. Cruiser
Rocket 3r is it really a cruiser?....didnt feel like one, more standard
Imho...muscle bike at a min needs to be a v4...otherwise eh
Guzzi is for riders
The riding experience is Moto Guzzi. You either get it or you don't.
Nitrous V Max. Anything Less IS.
I still cannot look past your bent bars
The Griso is a super cruiser🤫, not a muscle bike.
Sorry not a real muscke bike TODAY ....think Triumph Rocket 3 fricken car sized engine 2500cc makes the guzzin look like a minibike