Pansotti alla genovese, ciceri e tria. Molto bene 👌 Claudio had a ton of changes and we took more of a broadbrush approach here. A few more noteworthy ones: 4, 3 is also a NC, meaning Claudio now has a strong i12 punisher that allows you to keep up the pressure (unlike f+2,2) but no STB. STB d+1,2 now has even more + frames (+3 to +8) and can wallsplat. STB b+4,3,2 has gone from "totally useless" to "pretty good" being -1 on block and his optimal damage wall ender. Devil Jin next!
Surprised STB b+4,3,2 didn't get a mention. In season 2 it is now safe at -1 on block (used to be -10), force crouches on block and does more damage. Its is now a better wall combo ender compared to df+3,2,d+1+2 by 4-5 dmg in many cases.
Buff is great but I love doing df+3,2, U+4 for the mix-up potentials with either good mids or ss4. I like keeping starburst when at wall for either d+2,2 or plus frames on d+1,2 (I think that was the notation. I forget)
@@dslmista4353 Yeah I generally hold on to the STB for the powerful pressure / mixups at the wall, but if you're looking to end the round b+4,3,2 is the way to go.
While I dislike the F+3 being changed to high overall the screw helps out a lot. Just sad I can't mixup the running 2 with F+3 anymore since it's duckable.
I think this hurts Claudio the most out of all the nerfs. Mixing WR2 with f+3 was a big part of his gameplan. B+1 doesn't have the range or speed of f+3 , and ff+4 is linear while leaving you in the opponent's face at a major disadvantage on block.
@@ThatBlastedSalami agreed. I wish they made it safer or at the very least track better because the very few times I do use it a good portion of those times it's easily stepped unless you're at a mid to close range which even then there's definitely better options.
@@ThatBlastedSalami I'm pretty sure b1 has the same start up of f3 at i18. Also the range isn't that much different but yeah f3 does have slightly more range.
@@ThatBlastedSalami B1 AND F3 WAS SAME STARTUP! And B1 had always more range than B1, the difference was the frame advantage of the tailspin of F3 and the lowcrushing, but B1 evades High so that's enough. I mix up WR2 with DB3
@@tippingguy8514 Cheers for the correction guys 👌 b+1 is very inconsistent in evading highs, but Namco probably thought it was redundant for Claudio to have 2 safe mid tracking moves. I wouldn't recommend mixing up a high with a low though.
Plus frames aren't the same as opening someone up. He had plus frames before. He doesn't have any scary unseeable lows. Even with starburst his D 2,2 is can be reacted to.
Word. With his plus frames all you have to do is chill out and look out for a delayed timing mix up possibly to avoid giving him big damage. The lows are really what open people up. Not even throws can do that if you are playing on the high level. Unless they have deceiving animations/breaks.
Yeah we should have gone over them. Bit of an oversight there. In summary d+1,2 now has even more + frames (+3 to +8) and can wallsplat. STB b+4,3,2 has gone from "totally useless" to "pretty good" being -1 on block and his optimal wall ender.
Claudio feels more honest now in my opinion. He used to he one of those characters everyone hates coz you can cheese at low ranks due to a few great moves but now he's more fun to use. I really love b 3, 1 it extends the distance of his combos a bit for easier wall carry. :D i learned to play my mains better due to this channel i'm really grateful for the content you guys put up, keep up the good work! :D
Im trying to learn eliza and youre my go to chanel for character tutorials but there is no eliza one yet. Could you tell me if youre are planing on doing one? That would really help me out thx.
I actually somewhat agree with you here. Especially with the way I played Claudio (lots of lame keepout with hopkick and WR2 / f+3 mixups) I find him less effective now. Everyone else on the team thinks he's slightly stronger though, and they're all hardened tourny vets so who am I to argue.
Sorry but F3 being nerfed makes claudio a C+ at best. His string are non-existent and with a tekken being about low sweep combo & counter hits Claudio lacks in every department. I don't see how anyone thinks he's gotten better by slowing him frames down hence why no one plays with him anymore.
His counter hit game is actually pretty good now though. He's also better at breaking down turtles. Tekken isn't about low sweep combos, at least not offline. It's about utilising movement to score big damage through whiff punishes or counterhits.
@@ThatBlastedSalami That Blasted Salami his counter hit game is hella inconsistent good luck not getting jabbed out of up+3 is not worth the float damage. Downback+3 is slow and seeable low that has to be perfect to counter hit into a combo. Down forward 2 is still the best. Majority of your video was about how much Claudio got nerfed. Wall bounce non factor Claudio needed better mixup strings. Tekken at this stage is about low sweeps combo's.
@@ThatBlastedSalami While he has more CH tools. His overall CH game is worse mostly because the corner stone of his CH game and his absolute best, fastest and safest CH tool 43 got nerfed. The 2nd hit being high means it gets you launched if you just throw it out and guess wrong on them mashing or whatever. SO you can't CH fish with it any more. Especially since it can't be CH confirmed. So his 43 was one of the most easiest and safest magic 4 to use and combo with. Now it's a mediocre string that get you launched. But on the bright side at least it is an i12 punisher that wall splats.
@@tippingguy8514 I see your point, but f+3 now comboing on ch by itself, combined with the higher plus frames on f+4, uf+3 (which also ch combos) and STB d+1, 2 means he's better at lockdown and frame traps.
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Pansotti alla genovese, ciceri e tria. Molto bene 👌
Claudio had a ton of changes and we took more of a broadbrush approach here. A few more noteworthy ones:
4, 3 is also a NC, meaning Claudio now has a strong i12 punisher that allows you to keep up the pressure (unlike f+2,2) but no STB.
STB d+1,2 now has even more + frames (+3 to +8) and can wallsplat.
STB b+4,3,2 has gone from "totally useless" to "pretty good" being -1 on block and his optimal damage wall ender.
Devil Jin next!
Pansotti+salsa di noci 👌
Stigghiola e cipollata!
@@Clodd97 Sono allergico alle noci :(
@@rafftrop Cannelloni ai carciofi 👌
So next video will be "The Cooking Salami with Devil Jin"
Surprised STB b+4,3,2 didn't get a mention. In season 2 it is now safe at -1 on block (used to be -10), force crouches on block and does more damage. Its is now a better wall combo ender compared to df+3,2,d+1+2 by 4-5 dmg in many cases.
As probably the single most buffed STB move yes this did deserve a mention. Our bad.
@@ThatBlastedSalami still a great video tho. Keep it up fellas.
Buff is great but I love doing df+3,2, U+4 for the mix-up potentials with either good mids or ss4. I like keeping starburst when at wall for either d+2,2 or plus frames on d+1,2 (I think that was the notation. I forget)
@@dslmista4353 Yeah I generally hold on to the STB for the powerful pressure / mixups at the wall, but if you're looking to end the round b+4,3,2 is the way to go.
@@ThatBlastedSalami ahhh I see. I'll have to start implementing it more often then for round ender. Appreciate the info
I can't wait for the season 2 Claudio guide by Le Crocodile Rose :) Especially new combos
Haha thanks, though sadly there are a lot of characters that haven't been covered at all yet, so those are priority.
"Che la luce di Sirio disperda le tenebre!"
Thanks a lot. These video are really helpful.
From an Italian Claudio player who really wants to improve🇮🇹
DISPERDA!!!! Capra.
@@EraseTime chiedo umilmente scusa, provvedo subito.
While I dislike the F+3 being changed to high overall the screw helps out a lot. Just sad I can't mixup the running 2 with F+3 anymore since it's duckable.
I think this hurts Claudio the most out of all the nerfs. Mixing WR2 with f+3 was a big part of his gameplan. B+1 doesn't have the range or speed of f+3 , and ff+4 is linear while leaving you in the opponent's face at a major disadvantage on block.
@@ThatBlastedSalami agreed. I wish they made it safer or at the very least track better because the very few times I do use it a good portion of those times it's easily stepped unless you're at a mid to close range which even then there's definitely better options.
@@ThatBlastedSalami I'm pretty sure b1 has the same start up of f3 at i18. Also the range isn't that much different but yeah f3 does have slightly more range.
@@ThatBlastedSalami B1 AND F3 WAS SAME STARTUP! And B1 had always more range than B1, the difference was the frame advantage of the tailspin of F3 and the lowcrushing, but B1 evades High so that's enough. I mix up WR2 with DB3
@@tippingguy8514 Cheers for the correction guys 👌
b+1 is very inconsistent in evading highs, but Namco probably thought it was redundant for Claudio to have 2 safe mid tracking moves. I wouldn't recommend mixing up a high with a low though.
So basically... weaker DAHs and stronger OSSERVAs
Plus frames aren't the same as opening someone up. He had plus frames before. He doesn't have any scary unseeable lows. Even with starburst his D 2,2 is can be reacted to.
Word. With his plus frames all you have to do is chill out and look out for a delayed timing mix up possibly to avoid giving him big damage. The lows are really what open people up. Not even throws can do that if you are playing on the high level. Unless they have deceiving animations/breaks.
Surprised to see this show up in my notifications 2 in the morning. Good stuff! and informative
I feel like they should’ve left his Hopkick alone. It being a good move with like, *his thing*
I remember reading the update seeing that Claudio-kun didn't need starburst for d22 and the rest thinking he was going to be a massive threat lol
Love how my mains are at the beginning of the alphabet except for Steve (I main Claudio and Bryan too)
maybe he mains them too that's why it's easier
Man y’all are cranking these out
hopkick also hits and flips grounded now too
No details on the changes to the starburst moves?
Yeah we should have gone over them. Bit of an oversight there.
In summary d+1,2 now has even more + frames (+3 to +8) and can wallsplat. STB b+4,3,2 has gone from "totally useless" to "pretty good" being -1 on block and his optimal wall ender.
Claudio feels more honest now in my opinion. He used to he one of those characters everyone hates coz you can cheese at low ranks due to a few great moves but now he's more fun to use. I really love b 3, 1 it extends the distance of his combos a bit for easier wall carry. :D i learned to play my mains better due to this channel i'm really grateful for the content you guys put up, keep up the good work! :D
B4,1 NOT B31
@@EraseTime Oh yeah you're right, my bad. It is B4,1.
Wow this was fast after Bryan. You are gonna spoil me Salami. 😎
b4,2 on rage becomes a 17f safe confirmable launcher on rd
Im trying to learn eliza and youre my go to chanel for character tutorials but there is no eliza one yet. Could you tell me if youre are planing on doing one? That would really help me out thx.
Yes of course ! all the characters will be covered on the channel.
And especially Eliza as I like her a lot :3
There is a good Eliza guide from Ocelot or i think it is Seifer now here on yt
So what you're telling me is,
Claudio is an actual character now and not just 2 moves.
Is there a defined upload schedule or you just post whenever you like it?
3 per week, we are slightly behind though so going to upload the next couple of characters in quick succession.
Finally hopkick changes....Cant wait for the master raven changes video
I feel like they murdered his mid game by making f+3 a high ...
I mean King already has a move similar f+4 could be even better
Previous f3 was actually too good
Safe, long range, good damage, wall splat
Now it is still good but fair
b+1 is a safe, homing mid that wallsplats. His mid game is still strong.
@@Deviltriggerfounder
I really tought It was punishable, nice to know :D
Where is Jin kazama? No videos no other suggesstion.
Lucky Chloe is next?
Nice video!
sir plez upload howrang essentials s3
Rest In Peace Hopkick u_u
Oh it's Claudio, now I know that Lucky Chloe is under L, and great work as always!
Well this is good news.
Claudio was too weak in season 1.
euhghhhhhhhhhh, being bodied by Claudio is the worst thing I experienced in season 2 with the changes as I'm still lacking exposure to him
Lee changes coming
Next up,....Chloe, Lucky!
Oooo nice Devil Jin next but still. Oi Miguel essentials
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Still like S1 more
I'm sorry but this review is wrong. Claudio has been nerfed. He was better in season 1 no doubt
I would have said the opposite about the votes. A ---> B+
I actually somewhat agree with you here. Especially with the way I played Claudio (lots of lame keepout with hopkick and WR2 / f+3 mixups) I find him less effective now. Everyone else on the team thinks he's slightly stronger though, and they're all hardened tourny vets so who am I to argue.
@@fabrypotter5 what part about the nerf that hurts the most for you? Is it the f3?
@@perkedel7558 absolutely yes. It was one of the best moves of the game
I wish f3 to be mid
Sorry but F3 being nerfed makes claudio a C+ at best. His string are non-existent and with a tekken being about low sweep combo & counter hits Claudio lacks in every department. I don't see how anyone thinks he's gotten better by slowing him frames down hence why no one plays with him anymore.
His counter hit game is actually pretty good now though. He's also better at breaking down turtles.
Tekken isn't about low sweep combos, at least not offline. It's about utilising movement to score big damage through whiff punishes or counterhits.
@@ThatBlastedSalami That Blasted Salami his counter hit game is hella inconsistent good luck not getting jabbed out of up+3 is not worth the float damage. Downback+3 is slow and seeable low that has to be perfect to counter hit into a combo. Down forward 2 is still the best. Majority of your video was about how much Claudio got nerfed. Wall bounce non factor Claudio needed better mixup strings. Tekken at this stage is about low sweeps combo's.
@@ThatBlastedSalami
While he has more CH tools.
His overall CH game is worse mostly because the corner stone of his CH game and his absolute best, fastest and safest CH tool 43 got nerfed.
The 2nd hit being high means it gets you launched if you just throw it out and guess wrong on them mashing or whatever. SO you can't CH fish with it any more.
Especially since it can't be CH confirmed.
So his 43 was one of the most easiest and safest magic 4 to use and combo with. Now it's a mediocre string that get you launched. But on the bright side at least it is an i12 punisher that wall splats.
@@Channel1Mind So you say db3 is slow and seeable, but you also say tekken is about low sweep combos... nice logic.
@@tippingguy8514 I see your point, but f+3 now comboing on ch by itself, combined with the higher plus frames on f+4, uf+3 (which also ch combos) and STB d+1, 2 means he's better at lockdown and frame traps.
El mio Patele!
Is that what he says?
@@Hanswer122 El mio potere* :3
Il mio potere!@@LeCrocodileRose
@@derprofessor5100 Hahha thanks man ^^
Ugh.