Thank you for the teaching. I find the teachers of zions hope are such intelligent and stable men. I am so thankful to God for helping me find these teachings. God bless you all. Protect you and continue to strengthen you all. 🇨🇦
Are we ready now 2years after this message given?Really worth repeating this emphasis daily&these key passages read! So few are seriously contemplating such terror,let alone realizing that pretribism expires at Daniel9:27. The vast multitude of those restricted to&deceived by books of many well known writers will cause a part of those apostacizing in seal#1! Can we not get serious&tell other believers on this? DrCooper s book,Fight,Flight or Fear needs a far greater application effort missed there. Thanks for this...easy to say wait,some of us as I very I patient. God help us all to speak up.😢
For those questioning Michael's take on the timing of the Seals and the distinction between Satan's wrath (his persecution of believers in the Great Tribulation) and God's Wrath (His judgment on unbelievers via Trumpet and Bowl judgments), consider this... The disciples asked Jesus 'What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age?' In his answer, Jesus listed, in order, a dozen or so events that had to happen (culminating in the darkening of the sun and moon and the falling of the stars) just prior to his appearance in the clouds and His gathering of the elect (Rapture). Then in Revelation, Jesus showed John a similar list of events. And He covered many of those events twice, in two separate visions... once in Rev 6-7 and again in Rev 12-14 (where He introduced more characters to the story and added more detail). Here's a comparison of those events in Matthew 24 and in Revelation: Event Matt Revelation (2 visions, same events) False Christs 24:46:113:8 (1st Seal) Wars 24:66:313:7 (2nd Seal) Famines, Earthquakes (Pestilence Luke 21:11) 24:76:5-8 13:16 (3rd & 4th Seals) Persecution, Martyrdom 24:96:913:10-15 (5th Seal) False prophets 24:1113:11-14 Gospel to all nations 24:1414:6 Abomination of Desolation 24:1512:6 Flee Judea 24:1612:6-17 Beginning of 'great distress' 24:2112:7 Days of tribulation 'cut short' 24:22 Sun & moon darkened, stars fall 24:296:12 (6th Seal) Jesus' 2nd Coming (on the clouds) 24:306:1514:14 (6th Seal) Gathering of the elect (Rapture) 24:317:2-14 14:15 (6th Seal) Once we realize that Jesus described the events leading up to his return in two separate visions (Rev 6-7 and Rev 12-14), Revelation becomes much less confusing. It also helps to know that the scroll contains the Father's instructions for his wrath and that his wrath can't begin until the scroll is fully opened (Rev 8). Note that Jesus didn't mention God's Wrath in Matt 24 other than to say "And then, the end will come". But He did reveal God's Wrath to John in Rev 8-11 (Trumpet Judgments) and Rev 15-20 (Bowl Judgments). The chapters between, Rev 12-14, are the 2nd vision, a recap of Rev 8-11. God's judgment happens AFTER the scroll is opened and Jesus appears on the clouds. Hope this helps someone.
I agree. I think we get raptured right after the 144000 are sealed. ). Between 6 and 7 seal When John sees a group in white robes He says they came out of the great tribulation. The seventh seal is Gods wrath when all of heaven is silent for half an hour
I agree also. I believe that the Scriptures are clear that the rapture occurs just before God's wrath...between the 6th and 7th seals. Opening of the seals is mistaken by many as the beginning of God's wrath when in reality, the scroll holds God's wrath. Jesus is the only one qualified to unseal the scroll. The very first mention of God's wrath being poured out is found in Rev 6:16 after the opening of the 6th seal.
@@tritzispoosa Sorry for the delay, Linda. For some reason, I didn't get a notification for your comment. That's how I read it too. The scroll seems to include the Father's instructions for his judgment/wrath on unbelievers. His wrath can't begin until all 7 Seals have been opened and the scroll unrolled. I can understand why everyone observing the unrolling of the scroll would stand silently, knowing what about to unfold. Did you notice that fire is first mentioned at the 7th Seal?
@@bobcombs2566 Sorry for the delay, Bob. For some reason, I didn't get a notification for your comment. Yes, I agree! I haven't heard any teacher claim that the scroll holds (the instructions for) God's wrath, but I think that's what Rev 5-6 is saying. As for God's wrath not starting until all the Seals are broken and the scroll opened, it seems most people overlook that fire isn't mentioned until the 7th Seal.
Thank you for the teaching. I find the teachers of zions hope are such intelligent and stable men. I am so thankful to God for helping me find these teachings. God bless you all. Protect you and continue to strengthen you all. 🇨🇦
Great teaching!
Thank you! Excellent! Appreciate your teaching! ✅
Are we ready now 2years after this message given?Really worth repeating this emphasis daily&these key passages read!
So few are seriously contemplating such terror,let alone realizing that pretribism expires at Daniel9:27.
The vast multitude of those restricted to&deceived by books of many well known writers will cause a part of those apostacizing in seal#1!
Can we not get serious&tell other believers on this?
DrCooper s book,Fight,Flight or Fear needs a far greater application effort missed there.
Thanks for this...easy to say wait,some of us as I very I patient.
God help us all to speak up.😢
Sorry DrCoopers excellent book is called Fight,Flight or Faith.
For those questioning Michael's take on the timing of the Seals and the distinction between Satan's wrath (his persecution of believers in the Great Tribulation) and God's Wrath (His judgment on unbelievers via Trumpet and Bowl judgments), consider this...
The disciples asked Jesus 'What will be the sign of your coming and the end of the age?' In his answer, Jesus listed, in order, a dozen or so events that had to happen (culminating in the darkening of the sun and moon and the falling of the stars) just prior to his appearance in the clouds and His gathering of the elect (Rapture).
Then in Revelation, Jesus showed John a similar list of events. And He covered many of those events twice, in two separate visions... once in Rev 6-7 and again in Rev 12-14 (where He introduced more characters to the story and added more detail). Here's a comparison of those events in Matthew 24 and in Revelation:
Event Matt Revelation (2 visions, same events)
False Christs 24:4 6:1 13:8 (1st Seal)
Wars 24:6 6:3 13:7 (2nd Seal)
Famines, Earthquakes (Pestilence Luke 21:11) 24:7 6:5-8 13:16 (3rd & 4th Seals)
Persecution, Martyrdom 24:9 6:9 13:10-15 (5th Seal)
False prophets 24:11 13:11-14
Gospel to all nations 24:14 14:6
Abomination of Desolation 24:15 12:6
Flee Judea 24:16 12:6-17
Beginning of 'great distress' 24:21 12:7
Days of tribulation 'cut short' 24:22
Sun & moon darkened, stars fall 24:29 6:12 (6th Seal)
Jesus' 2nd Coming (on the clouds) 24:30 6:15 14:14 (6th Seal)
Gathering of the elect (Rapture) 24:31 7:2-14 14:15 (6th Seal)
Once we realize that Jesus described the events leading up to his return in two separate visions (Rev 6-7 and Rev 12-14), Revelation becomes much less confusing. It also helps to know that the scroll contains the Father's instructions for his wrath and that his wrath can't begin until the scroll is fully opened (Rev 8).
Note that Jesus didn't mention God's Wrath in Matt 24 other than to say "And then, the end will come". But He did reveal God's Wrath to John in Rev 8-11 (Trumpet Judgments) and Rev 15-20 (Bowl Judgments). The chapters between, Rev 12-14, are the 2nd vision, a recap of Rev 8-11. God's judgment happens AFTER the scroll is opened and Jesus appears on the clouds.
Hope this helps someone.
I agree. I think we get raptured right after the 144000 are sealed. ). Between 6 and 7 seal When John sees a group in white robes He says they came out of the great tribulation. The seventh seal is Gods wrath when all of heaven is silent for half an hour
I agree also. I believe that the Scriptures are clear that the rapture occurs just before God's wrath...between the 6th and 7th seals. Opening of the seals is mistaken by many as the beginning of God's wrath when in reality, the scroll holds God's wrath. Jesus is the only one qualified to unseal the scroll. The very first mention of God's wrath being poured out is found in Rev 6:16 after the opening of the 6th seal.
@@tritzispoosa Sorry for the delay, Linda. For some reason, I didn't get a notification for your comment. That's how I read it too. The scroll seems to include the Father's instructions for his judgment/wrath on unbelievers. His wrath can't begin until all 7 Seals have been opened and the scroll unrolled. I can understand why everyone observing the unrolling of the scroll would stand silently, knowing what about to unfold. Did you notice that fire is first mentioned at the 7th Seal?
@@bobcombs2566 Sorry for the delay, Bob. For some reason, I didn't get a notification for your comment. Yes, I agree! I haven't heard any teacher claim that the scroll holds (the instructions for) God's wrath, but I think that's what Rev 5-6 is saying. As for God's wrath not starting until all the Seals are broken and the scroll opened, it seems most people overlook that fire isn't mentioned until the 7th Seal.
AMEN
Don’t limit Gods supernatural power to help us. Just like he did the exodus Cloud by day and a pillar of fire at night He gave manna to eat
The rapture is just between sixth and seventh seal
Many die by animals reminds me of the lions eating early Christian’s