[HoI4] Double Timelapse - Vanilla AI VS Expert AI
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- Опубліковано 25 бер 2022
- It's time to re-check the gap between the Vanilla AI and Expert AI mod - w/ NSB.
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Just forgot one thing: LEFT SCREEN - EXPERT AI, RIGHT SCREEN - VANILLA AI. Also to not forget, thank you guys for 24.9k subscribers!
Sup
For once I’m the first veiwer
@@Kingdom_of_Erusa thanks ;)
Thanks. That’s useful to know
well maybe you should change the thumbnail
I might be mistaken but does expert AI Soviet Union actually do factory conversions to boost its military factory count?
Yes it does, well spotted )
that’s actually pretty cool
It's really annoying that Germany doesn't do the phoney war when playing the UK or France and just guns straight for France while they are in the middle of invading poland and completely ignore scandanvia
Expert AI doesnt use air dispersed, putting all air forces into a single region which is bad.
@@CarlvonClausewitz1780why is that bad
Honestly no matter how similar the AI’s look, both are pretty fun to watch and truely what gives HOI4 the charm. My fav AI is the expert though. Keep making great content, Game!
Soviets in EAI really did take Rush B(erlin) to heart at the end it seems.
I feel like German AI was kinda stupid. They quickly railroaded all their centre to the west , without any precaution, and the russians just encircled them right on the spot, after the western half withdrew. 3 s and 1/6 of their army dissappeared. Could have done it in 2 waves in order not to lose those divs.
Expert ai prioritizes the Easter front, so the entire German army was in Russia, when d-day happened they had to do a emergency relocation, this broke entrenchment and the soviets took the opportunity and attacked strategically the weak spots with armor.
You can already see the difference by factory count and stuff like that.
It's so surprising, cause to me optimal factories seems easy to teach to an AI.
Imagine you're Axis pilot after 1946
Pain
I wonder why vanilla AI is so trigger happy with naval invasions. On a typical game with no EAI you get constantly naval invaded which is a bother and can be seen on the right, but EAI had like one failed D-Day attempt, followed by a successful invasion through southern France.
Ai probably knows if you garrison your ports
If you garrison them the naval invasion will stop being done
Britain ai moment
So if I'm seeing that correctly, basically the Axis dominates the game in Europe until the war in Japan finishes and gets facerolled? I wonder how different this would look if the Allied AI actually prioritized Europe over Asia instead of giving them both equal priority.
From my games, I think the allies are scripted to do D-day landings by 42-43 regardless of the situation in Japan
Basically in NSB even if the allies try an early Naval invasion they usually get pushed out, but when Germany gets too far into the soviet Union is when the Allies can land and destroy Germany (because they built up enough and because germany is distracted enough)
@@unimportant719 Even with constructing the Axis faction, fighting a two front war will still get ya
@@supercellodude USA late game will get stupid amounts of resources and then wins it for the allies, while in reality the German armies were defeated in the east and the USA in Europa only faced the elderly, the war weary veterans and the children, not the top notch army divisions the Russians faced and they still struggled often despite numerical superiority... If you remove the army from the ideology and look past the atrocities against groups of people, you cannot help but respect the way the wehrmacht performed given the circumstances. Just to emphasize: i don't agree with the ideology or the actions at play in Germany during WW2.
@@AwoudeX "ideology or the actions at play in Germany during WW2." You had me on your side till u said this.
No matter which ai is on the border gore is still there
At first glance it might look like Expert Ai is worse but it makes the allies and soviets much stronger as well as germany so the d-day invasion seemed more historical
Love the music
What mods do you use in this video?
Name of song? Also was this just base EAI settings? With divisions set to challenging or to historical? Thanks, interesting video
Default challenging templates. Song in desc
Request: Roman Empire in the axis, with Bysantine Empire in the allies
they are the same thing, we now call them with different names.
@@ilsocialattivista5278 i meant something like a greater italy in the axis and a greater greece in the allies
@@martimsalvador9186 sorry I was not accusative, it was a sort of irony, good idea btw
@@ilsocialattivista5278 thx and np
They must stand together
Ultra Tech Argentina (With En Union y Libertad mod) vs Allies (Argentina joins Axis)
what do u think about this video idea?
sadly whenever I put an Ultra Tech scenario up for voting, people no longer vote for em x/
Expert aí desc:
Pros:makes good divisions
Researches useful stuff
Knows that garrisoning landlocked provinces is useless
Doesnt mass charge randomly
Cons:doesnt disperses Air
Makes Green divisions which are ineffective
Attacks river provinces without preparation
First request: can you do ultra tech italy vs world
Out of curiosity was this with the Expert AI military focus set to Normal or Challenging or Historical?
I didnt need to know which one is expert ai. I just saw germany building ports and i immiediately knew it...
Good vídeo!
As usual Soviet AI does nothing but bleed all game
Is this mod can work for overhull mods like tno kiserrich etc
no
did I just see japan in the european theater?
Is there a way to only make one contry have expert ai?
U can configure every country in expert ai MOD. Just do as you like
So the expert AI makes history skip the cold war to the day of today.
Expert AI got screwed over by finland joining the comintern? what
4:50 It very historically 😈😈🤑
Do HoI4 Ultra Historical mod timelapse
I know they are the bad guys but I am always hoping for an axis victory in these for some reason
For some reason... ;-)
Well they ar the underdog. That might explain it.
@@PadaV4 - yes. They are programmed to lose. They will rise rapidly and collapse even faster. Also they are the OG interesting "characters" in the game since all the other factions are just reacting. I always like to see some twists that change the outcome since it is unusual.
Because villains are charismatic, and the nazis are especially charismatic and unique. It just would be more interesting if the nazi win in hoi4. But in reality, all forms of dictatorship cause a lot of suffering, as i russian citizen, i can feel it for sure.
@@pegasus242 i thought UA-cam was banned in russia, unless you are using a vpn or smth
Sadly three second once
The axis were still in ireland
You should go early to bed you have work tomorrow morning
Me at 2am:
Why did Hungary join the allies TF
how do you do the ultra ai stuff
In expert AI german lose a lot of man so they don't have enough war support to total mobilization
Sadly second one
comintern ai troops almost triples
linki daidos
Allies have 120M focking manpower😶
Ok so basically Allies win if Vanilla is on, and soviets do better and win if expert ai is on. Germany can't catch a break, can they?
I blame Italy as usual
If playing as Germany its best to puppet Italy and never call it into war later.
by god the expert Ai is so much better at creating factories and has a massive lead compared to vanilla ai.
I’m sorry, Ireland joined the axis in the vanilla game?
and hungary the allies?
but hey, it's the _mods_ that break the game and historical ai and that it's your fault if historical breaks. the game is perfectly well optimized in the ai and performance department.
according to the infinitely wise words of reddit anyways.
@@JohnSmith-kb4re What kills me is game version for mp. I never match my friends and then we have to spend 3 hours trying to fix something that shouldn't even be a problem
@@serlistogiette4168 Try reinstalling the game, had that problem before with my friend because he doesn't own the dlcs
@@collectibletaco7797 Reinstalling is a last resort, it would take an hour or two to reinstall. It's the most retarded MP system I've ever played.
What happened with the manpower of the allies on the left side at the end of 1944? Going from 11 Mil to almost 80 mil manpower in an instant, did china join the allies or what?
Just alt-f4'd it when it was over man, well spotted. Did not even notice it myself. Must've been China yeah
Expert AI suck. Enemy is leaving empty provinces, when I played as Italy UK had like 5 divisions for entire Africa. Such things never happened in my game again after I uninstalled the mod.
Its part of AI, they wont defend if its not worth it, they will also pull out units if they are at risk of encirclement: British always build large army, wait till USA join Allies and Germany is busy with Soviets then launch massive naval invasion on Normandy or Italy.
Wow, for me the UK has no divisions in Africa without expert ai.
If you are not playing with expert AI you are wasting your time.
Second one did better i guess?
Overall not really I'd say, notice factory and law changes between em. EAI handles it much better
Though I wish to see GER go with free trade, and sooner
so vanilla AI europe ended ww2 in better condition...
damn bro we playing on expert
Lol i tried germany with expert ai and couldn't beat france, the ai is better than me xD
Sup
Sorry, but East Germany being neutral in the Vanilla one is hilarious. Like why did they split it in half then?
Buffer state. Hell, the Allies IRL wanted to basically genocide Germany and have Germans race mix themselves into being... Well, nothing German.
tbf, it still acts as a buffer, not quite as good as abuffer, but a buffer
btw German AI can make naval invasion on UK with Expert AI?
Someone now why germany annexed hungary
For some reason Horhty didn't get southern Slovakia so he tried to get it with force
Conclusion - its pointless to install Expert AI since there's little difference, but more bugs.
have you played the game recently? The germans almost always win
"little difference"? maybe you should rewatch the video.
@@imransuleymaneraslan2797 a bit stronger Soviet horde, that's all. Not worth the bugs this mod introduces.
Expert AI changes how the AI handles their economy, focus trees, in it templates…it’s not little difference just because the outcome in this was similar, it’s a pretty massive difference
@@SinfullyHera only thing that matters for AI in these type of games is what you see on the map, doesn't matter how AI handles economy, it anyway cheats
kind of seems like vanilla was better
You mean in terms of germany? Because Expert AI did way better on the allied and soviet side
Soviet union Is really weak in game they need to be fixed
Yeah Paradox never manages to balance all major nations, most of the problems are with Germany and the soviet union since it's hard to suddenly make a nation recover and suddenly make another nation to quickly decline, but it could be easily fixed with automatic focuses and events to weaken or strengthen the states
@@whitezombie10 yes like Usa Gets Ultimately Powerful after getting rid of Great dipression , Isolation and then No country Can Match the Power of Usa 😁😁
Forget about that. USA is super overpowered
@@MaXiMoS54 yes😁😁
@@MaXiMoS54 that's kind of realistic though
First for once
Do 1945 soviet army vs modern Ukraine
I seriously hate the allies. So much.