Why The Monogatari Series is so Different
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The French New Wave made one of the largest impacts that helped shaped modern cinema...but how about anime?
Today we take a look at how maybe the New Wave influenced the structure of Monogatari.
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Can i just point out the obvious, Monogatari is gorgeous.
no shit sherlock. jk;)
+dwarfplayer same goes for all anime series ^^
You named two flaws that aren't even flaws. The dialogue is the best part of the show, NisioIsin is a wordsmith. The characters are focused on heavily throughout, often through the dialogue. Idk what you mean by them focusing on the background art being a flaw, having good animation doesn't take away from the characters at all.
dwarfplayer I disagree. There is no excess of anything that is unsuited for the medium of cinema. The point of art is to be able to express freely. If a director wants to focus on dialogue or adapt a work that focuses on dialogue he should be able to, because adding audio and moving visuals enhance the dialogue even further if done correctly, which in Monogatari it is. The dialogue doesn't detract from the visuals and vice versa. Heavy dialogue isn't limited to novels. Visuals aren't limited to cinema.
dwarfplayer Dude... I just don't agree with you at all. You can't put limitations on art. I had no problems following Tatami Galaxy, that was a wonderful adaptation of a wonderful book. The mile a minute dialogue is part of it's charm, it would have sucked if they dialed that back just cause they felt not everyone would be able to follow it. Tatami Galaxy is a niche work, not everyone is supposed to follow it or get it. It has to speak to you as a person. Even more so with Monogatari. Shaft's goal with the Monogatari series is to do their best to adapt a light novel as a light novel, not as an anime, to make you feel like you're "watching" a light novel. And they accomplished that. You act like they don't cut dialogue from the books, they do. They always have and they cut a lot, that's what is in the text flashes the majority of the time. Cut expository dialogue or inner thoughts. They do this because they don't view any dialogue as not needed, just less important. For a series based heavily on dialogue and character interaction I don't see how they could. Even the most mundane of conversations can add something to the story through subtext, implication, showing a character's mindset during the conversation etc.
They know animation is different from books and they account for that. The huge speech at the end of Bake IS the climax. It's literally 24 minutes of people arguing about their problems and it's fucking intense, that's the beauty of it. It doesn't take away from anything, it is everything. It is everything the show is trying to be and it plays to all it's strengths. It's impeccably directed with the animation quality of feature films at the time. Watch that episode again and even if you don't like the story tell me you can't appreciate how much work went into making that. You complain how it doesn't focus on it's characters but ALL it does is focus on the characters. You say the focus is so hard on the animation over the characters but the majority of the time the backgrounds are static and minimalistic. They focus more on character movement and expression in their animation, which accompanies their dialogue and adds more to their character. What would you rather have happened that would have "improved" the climax? Less dialogue? Ya ok, you don't know NisioIsin and Monogatari isn't for you.
Suddenly the realisation hits me...I will never make a video as researched and educational as this...And that's how you know its good
also the music is tight
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The visual effects in monogatari are one of the reasons it's my top anime, it's so hypnotizing and satisfying to watch lmao
It's like a trip on acid
@@HyperboreaFlashes ong
@@HyperboreaFlashes naahh but less euphoric
It's 'Araragi'.
No it's 'Alalagi'.
Nah it's Amamagi.
No its midnight shama llama ding dong xD
*insert John Cena joke here*
+RCAnime What is the name of that song at the end of your video?
Alice by Pogo, it's in the description
+RCAnime I understand you have a lisp so I'll excuse Alalagi as bad as it sounds but can you please say monogatari properly? It is mo-no-ga-ta-ri, not mono-gat-ari.
> spends hours making a well researched, well edited, informative video
> all people care about is that he's speaking with a lisp
Ikr. Just appreciate what he does right.
life is unfair
He's sorry, he flubbed it
Ironically in Japanese there is no hard R sound as in "Araragi", but the sound is something in between L and R... Its perfectly acceptable in our overseas anime community I think, but technically we are all overpronouncing the R sound all the time when saying Japanese names and words.
@@cahsahhhhhhhn no, he did it intentionally
now I'm curious about these kind of films.
Maztuhmind me too
"Alalagi"
Did you bit your tongue¿
No, he did it on purpose
Shadey Shade It was on purpose?!
they are making the hachikuji gag here
Alalagi and...
"Shinbu"
oh man I can't
Kamimashita
It's not until you find a series with great cinematography, shot composition, sound design, BGM and visual identity like Monogatari that you realise just how many other anime are lacking in that regard.
"Other anime have broken the fourth wall before, but none as frequently as the monogatari series."
Sakata Gintoki and the rest of the yorozuya gang would like a word with you.
eyyyy it's you
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***** How's Elizabeth?
He specifically said "No other anime that IVE seen".
The way you say Araragi cracks me up.
+Raito - Senpai He bit his tongue.
+roverandom He fwubbed it.
Do we need Hachikuji in here?
roverandom No, he did it on purpose
It's been 6 years since I've watched this video and discovered this channel. And even now, I find myself coming back for a rewatch simply because of how well they're made. The writing of this video essay is well done and the research is is very intriguing. Wherever you are, RC Anime, I hope you're doing well and I wish you the best!
same!
i have never rewatched any series as frequently as i have monogatari series... you know something is good when rewatch value is so damn high
This is the only anime that I paid attention to get hints or foreshadowing when rewatching this series. This is some A grade shit lol!
@@kuchikishou1o a+ grade shit bro
I only experienced the rewatch value with monogatari and SpongeBob season 1-3
"Like coke and penecillin, some of the best things are accidents"
I'M DYING JESUS CHRIST
well im afraid there was not a new wave caused by monogateri
just wanna say... addressing the audience directly (breaking the forth wall) does not help the suspension of disbelief. it does literally the opposite.
Exactly right.
It's actually very important that the anime does this, not only because it is common in the light novels, but because watching is always a different experience than reading. The absurd is much easier to detect as absurd when it's literally narrated in the light novels, but the lines can blur a bit in the anime adaptation. The teasing banter with Mayoi and Araragi's complex-but-not-actually-creepy relationship with his sisters stand out as places that this blurring is more prominent in the anime.
@@nightcross1030 nah it's creepy alright
I would never have expected to see you in a video like this.
You're bringing in the new age in anime reviewing, friend. Keep at it.
0:45 Its really strange to hear that for a french viewver who wan t to learn about monogatari series
You make the best anime in depth videos wow!!!! Amazing! I love the french new wave so I will check the monogatari series now
I really appreciated this review and references you made to the French New Wave. Completely learned something new today.
I don't know if you've covered this but its about Symbolism in Monogatari. I know that there is a large emphasis on symbolism and other themes throughout the series. However I'm not very good at interpreting all of this so I was wondering whether you can talk about it because I do enjoy your Monogatari videos, as you can see I am a huge fan of Monogatari, I love the show because of the character interaction and its style, as you just covered.
***** yeah, I mean, I can pick up the references, but when people say "Symbolism this, Symbolism that" I'm lost at what exactly are they talking about. If something in the later events is referring to something that happened in Kizu, or Bake, I can pick it up.
And yeah, wordplay is an interesting subject. i love the interactions between Araragi and Senjougahara in The Mayoi Snail arc. One of my favorite arcs for the wordplay alone.
dwarfplayer Yes. But I believe that for myself, that it is hard for me to pick up what exactly is being symbolized. Like say, what religious symbolism is being played here. What Greek myth is being represented. I mean unless its obviously pointed out. What problems of society is being presented here. I am not fully aware of my surroundings. I don't know what's happening anywhere outside MY world. So when I hear "Ah I like the symbolism of this this and this." I get a huge "?!" Like "Did I completely miss something?" And I myself feel really left out. I feel dumb, stupid. I mean. I passed English, I graduated high school. I know what to do and whatnot to do. But when I get hit with this "?!" about symbolism, I just feel left out.
Huge fan of the series here as well as you can see from my nick (duh). My favourite arc is definitely Hitagi Crab, because everything just comes together so perfectly on so many levels. The apparition as a representation of a mental/ psychological problem (her weight loss hints at anorexia as a consequence of her family history), the double meaning of the crucial word "omoi" (can mean both "weight" and "feelings", she loses her weight because she suppresses her feelings, both figuratively through the doing of the crab god and literally through her anorexia), the similarity/ pun between kami/kani (god/crab, hence the god being a crab in the first place) - all of this makes for such a strong conceptual whole that I am still dumbfounded even after so many viewings. Now, if you want to have your mind blown by the genius of Akiyuki Shinbo, read this blog article, its amazing :)
surprisinglycomplex.blogspot.ch/2013/05/bakemonogatari-behind-summer-triangle.html
ah and sorry for the somewhat jumbled thoughts, its 4am here haha. I wrote this on the presumption, that you already knew about some of the theories (e.g. apparitions= mental problems), but if the stuff i said made no sense to you id be glad to elaborate haha
Baka Monogatari oh its cool. And I got that even on my first watch of Hitagi Crab. And yeah. That and Mayoi Snail are both my favorite arcs. Its like the ones I rewatched the most. But yeah i got the meaning of the crab. I even went on forums about it and learned a lot. But yeah its cool. I like hearing what others say about their interpretations of the theories.
"Other anime have broken the fourth wall before, but not as frequently as the Monogatari Series."
This guy hasn't seen Gintama.
Nice video though, Monogatari Series is awesome. Also, what's your favourite anime?
pls. Gintama didn't have a 4th when it's first aired.
THEY ARE THE KINGS OF 4TH WALL BREAKING
the very heavy dialogue is not because Monogatai is inspired by French New Wave. It's like that cuz that is how Nisioisin originally wrote it in the Light novel. the fsct that Monogatari and french new wave has heavy dialoue and coversations doesnt mean ts related. it is merely a coincidence
Monogatari is too special to make the other animes come even near
None as frequently as the Monogatari???? Are you kidding me? Have you never watched Gintama?
He's talking about breaking the fourth wall, not references. Gintama definitely breaks the fourth wall and makes better and more meta-jokes than any other anime.
Did you just make this video on impulse after watching Nerdwriter today?
I'm seeing a lot of videos directly inspired by nerdwriter1 (but its probably just me considering my subs) its kinda surprising when you think about its very small subscriptions
Hey rc, i read somewhere that oishi said he was inspired by french filmmaking, and if you have seen any of Kizumonogatari it's made pretty obvious. Just wanted to let you and everyone know that you were spot on.
"Alalagi" I wan't to fuckin' die, yes there is a slight accent in the 'R's but it's not a fucking L Jesus christ... It hurts...
Monogatari has an almost perfect excution. Apart from the whole ecchi parts which makes it almost impossible to recommend.
All this time I thought I was an anime fan and it turns out I was a confused french new wave fan all along.
the abundant dialog in the monogatari series its due to the novels its based have also long dialogs... it's isn't a recourse used its a necessity to made the show have some consistent. The experimentation Shaft put on this show its to made it enjoyable the long long dialogs. saying that the series and the new wave are similar just seen so far fetched.
I had no idea someone had actually analyzed the cinematography behind Monogatari-thank you! This was so exciting to watch!
This being so beautifully put together, well researched and explained clearly and concisely is what defines you as a great content Creator. I'm subscribing and looking forward to watching your other videos.
I think its important to read zaregoto and medaka box to understand monogatari
I love Monogatar's style :3 eyegasm.
lol that video about new wave in filmmaking from Channel Criswell was really good indeed
Monogatari is something new every single time you watch it again. :D
Here's what i see from your videos and what i really like about them. Your picking up on topics about things like a history teacher and while yea most people wont like to jjust listen to a history lecture you make it interesting to a demographic of people who are seen as the "slackers" or "nerds" in society, picking up on this while also puttin in social influence means really you are helping kids and other kinds of people who may not have a drive to learn and using something like anime to make it so damn interesting. Honestly i cant get enough of your videos cause they're well made, interesting, and im learning about something ive never hear'd of through Anime, ANIME DUDE. Probably one of the most under-rated channels on youtube would have to be yours and when you try to make funny videos they really are funny. Using anime to teach people interesting history and other stuff like the camera movement video are great dude so please i beg of you up-load moreeee~.I can understand that it can be hard to upload alot since your videos are so well made and you have to do everyhing on them but if you can find any way to do it please do.
Anyway, needed finger exercise for the day so i let it out here, good work and break down more stuff like this with anime.
Glad someone finaly did this kinda analysis. Actualy, creative "New wave" in gatari series the only thing i love about this anime. But i hate it because its have this very animeish things like pervetism(obviously T____T *sign*) so i couldn't fully enjoy it. Everything is awesome, except pantsu-shotomania and ect.
Not enough head tilts.
The Concept of this anime is outrages amazing
Ever heard of Gintama?
Breaking that fourth wall every episode
Quote: "I'm a fictional character so that means I can do what ever I want!"
Or Gintoki selling his porn DVD's in the middle of the show. Just watch and understand that they are the most 4th wall breaking characters in a show.
Still great video
👍🏽
+Dopparn ha true that.
Great scene selection, great music, great dialogue, good editing, nice job on the video. Nice to know where this show gets some of its inspiration from, but man the way you said Araragi really bothered me lol.
i can appreciate the unique art style of the series but i find it pretty boring
It's not everyone's cup of tea, but I find every episode fascinating.
Flugmorph yeah it's beyond boring IMO
As a french viewer your review of the Nouvelle vague was Spot on , good shit man ! You just earned yourself a sub .
Enunciation is appreciated: "each odder", "ambigwus", "forf", "Alalagi"
Managatery
Alalagee
Nauteko
ha-na-KA-WA
Sorry, You stuttered.
The monogatari series is told both by visually and sound...
Yes that includes the lack of...
To be completely honest, I think this might be one of your best videos if not the best. Congratulations and thanks from one of your subscribers on making such an amazing video is probably not very meaningful since I know absolutely nothing about cinematography. But even knowing nothing, or maybe because I know nothing, I can definitely see how amazing your work in this video was. And as a complete fanboy of the Monogatari series, I can't thank you enough for helping me appreciate more this series. I thought it would be hard to make me love this series more than I do, but you certainly showed me how wrong I was in this video. Dai honto ni, arigato gozaimasu!
You've got good taste in music.
I can not argue with that.
Is there a way you could have a list of the films you discuss and show in your videos to accompany them? That film with the glitter on the woman and overviewing the atomic bombs and japan is something I would love to check out.
Alalagi?? It’s Araragi lol.
I've never appreciated monogatari for its story or characters, but I've always found its art and animation brilliant.
Monogatari is my favorite anime and it just so happens that I speak French XD
I read the light novels and manga and loved it but i really struggle with the anime. i have hypersensitivity and the constant flashing frames and changing camera angles gives me a headache. Even worse while trying to read the subs and make sense of the plot. It was easier to go back to once i knew what was going on but it's extremely disorientating for new viewers and i hate the wide open backgrounds with empty space, why do they have a fetish for factories and beams.
This Anime sounds wired to me. I don't know why but it is so. I just like the normal animes that tells a love story.
Hearing english speaking people pronounce japanase names DRIVING ME NUTS.
*has future expectations about a video about owarimonogatari
Hey guys RCAnime here, back with a new shooooooooowwww
I think I am interested in watching Monogatari now but before I do that...what's the story like?
***** ...okay then
centers around a highschool boy named araragi who before the story started, turned into a vampire during spring break. Hes human again but still has some powers from when he was a vampire, and now helps certain people who have powers related to the supernatural
Somehow monogatari is re-watchble i don't know why?
I'm getting buried with my bluray copy of Bakemonogatari.
That was a really cool way to describe the cinematography in the monogatari series. It makes me appreciate what's going on a little bit more.
Also really cool song to use at the end, haven't heard that in a while.
Leaving this here: www.dailymotion.com/video/xhqmf6_hanamaru-kindergarten-ending-7_shortfilms
I'm liking this channel.
I've watched a couple of episodes of Bakemonogatari and I have to seriously pay attention and concentrate on what's going on, but it's awesome nonetheless.
How would the series be starting something new? Something new wouldn't be that heavily inspired in an already existing tendency. It's taking a feature of A to B.
I really like binge watching your videos! They're so educational and entertaining at the same time 😃
As amazingly researched and well thought out your videos are, your speaking skills need some work. I don't mind the lisp, or the high pitch, or the poor pronunciations. I do mind that sometimes it's just hard to understand. You sound like you're chewing your words and all that comes out is a slew of slurred r's and it takes a lot of effort to parse what you're saying. This minor bitching aside, keep doing your thing. You make great videos.
I really liked the vídeo, i just have a small issue regarding the french new wave or la nouvelle vague. The main reason of its beggining wasnt to break off of hollywwod classical tradition but because of the extreme rejection that these, initially critics, had of the french cinema of their time. Not only that, but they also had an great admiration for hollywwod, considering it the place where the greatest cinema was executed specially by great masters like hitchcock or howard hawks whom they reverenced. Its more, i would even say that the hollywood classical film making was the greatest influence of such movement. When the war was over all the united states movies entered france, and this way started their admiration for the classical hollywwod style of film making in contraposition with their rejection of french cinema. They saw in hollywwod the heart of cinema and the nouvella vague started from nothing more than respect for it. But im not denying for example the great influence that also constituted the neorralism.
Sooo for the next time.... Search your shit BITCH
Im kidding keep up the good work, love your vids
number 5:03 they are not changing topics , it is just a clever reference from a japanese phone service company "SoftBank"
I feel like my liked videos are getting erased. I watched this video on the day it fucking came out, but for some reason my account doesn't show it, nor does it have my "like" anymore. This is really fucking annoying. -_-
Are you a teacher/professor? Did you perhaps take a course on teaching? This is very impressive.
Was anyone known this movie.
I think it was samuel jackson on new wave style. I think that theme was japanese ww2 empire villain.
Saying "like Coke and penicillin, some of the best things are accidents" makes it sound like Coke and penicillin is somehow a good combination, hehe.
What movie from New Wave is he talking about for most of the time? I can't really understand the name.
id love if you do an insight on studio trigger/gainax. not that you have to though... basically like a "bankruptcy in anime" type of deal?
It's funny how I watched the Monogatari Series for the first time earlier this year and for the past month have been obsessed with the French new wave having not watched this video until. Now I am rewatching Monogatari and am catching all the references & influence of the French new wave. Fun fact: the red books in Kanburu's room is a tribute to the Godard film La Chinoise (1967).
Really? I already watched la chinoise and dont catch that
How do I obtain the entire series ??? Or is there a complete series. I do enjoy this a great deal. Some are on Funimation sub/dub but not all.
Which Monogatari series is he talking about? There are many different shows with that name.
Mawnagatari, that's how your pronouncing it.
Nerdwriter1 just released a video essay on Breathless. So i was wondering if you were inspired to mentionit in this video for any reason (anniversary or something) or if its just a great coincidence.
Would anyone happen to know the name of the song towards the very end of the video?!
mo no ga ta rinot mana gatariARGHH!!!nice review despite this pet peeve.
I seriously got a headache in the first episode i watch because of the crazy story and color scheme.
what is the video where you talk about owning the scene between araragi and senjougahara?
Monogatari - best show ever - done.
Every scene in monogatari looks familiar but also not?
"Alalagi" 3:18
What anime are inspired by monogatari or the likes of tatami galaxy?
IS this the beggining of the series of Monogatari or is it bakemonogatari
Because the old stuff brings inn the money
listening to this video in "mono" LOL. mawnogatari lelelel
hmmmmmm your taste in music alone is making hit the subscribe button
Too bad it's hard to look at the backround when the subs are so damn fast
What's so hard about saying R ...ahh wait english
Magnificent video! instant susbcribe!
this is a good channel nice job your videos are good
Wheres your hyouka review dude ? I love that video
holy crap you made the right prediction