Does the NBA hate Trae Young?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- The fear of how Joel Embiid's injury is handled, the weird contradictions when it comes to Trae Young's all-star case, and the rumor mill temperature ahead of Thursdays deadline are some of the topics we discuss in this episode.
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What really rubs me the wrong way is the fans reaction to injury , I totally get being disappointed someone won’t be there for your team , but acting like these players wanted to get injured / miss time is insanity , well said P always love listening
I literally had this same sentiment when some guy basically blamed embid for getting hurt like he wanted to
they get paid millions play or give your money back ! and if we talk about zion or embiid - maybe consider to work on your body and be FIT because you re an professional so then you wont get hurt !
@@denigster if u get hurt at work u don’t give your check back u still get paid so why wouldn’t they?
@@denigsterso if a 200 pound peice of equipment falls on you at work you just going to give ur check back 😂
I listen to this show while I fall asleep. I like the tone staying consistent the whole time. Makes for a very easy listen
I love this and the messages yo, the first thing you mentioned about humbleness really hit home, as I work with cars as a mechanic, there’s always room to learn, and there’s definitely always room to look like a damn fool lol
Yo you ever changed the spark plugs of a 2017 V6 Kia Sorento? They charging me 800 so I looked how to do it on UA-cam. The shit looks crazy but I'm poor so I'm gonna try to do it.
@@Dondonmixedflip I have not, but kias aren’t too bad of a company, if theyre in a good location I say go for it, you can do it with $40 of spark plugs (4cylinder). And I recommend a magnetic spark plug socket and maybe an extension adapter, but it’s easy man you got it
This is elite podcasting P
He's great. Started following because of Kenny but now I almost have the equal amount of love for P.
Great podcast. Love the way you talk about the game ✊
And btw, as far as Trae young goes.. I think the answer stems from his play style. More specifically it’s how he manipulates defenders & creates contact to get to the line. He’s a 6foot 170 or so pounds perimeter oriented guard, who’s not very physical or imposing, yet still finds himself at the top of the league in FTA on a year by year basis. Credit to Trae for finding ways to take advantage of the game and put easy points on the board..but my guess is that’s also contributing to why fans/current players/etc don’t like him. He’s far from the only culprit..but Trae gets more disrespect because of his physical stature IMO. I don’t necessarily agree with this BTW, and if it were up to me Trae would undoubtedly be an allstar every year.
Appreciate you p and the hard work is noticed. Keep it my guy you up for big things! Glad yall gettin the recognition now
This podcast is one of the best in the basketball community. Thanks P
The one I never understood was Bradley Beal averaging nearly 30 ppg in 46 games played before the break in 2020. Like that production just has to be rewarded with an all star appearance
I think at the time I felt he shouldn't have gotten it but as I get older I feel like I just want to see the best players in the game period. Not the best players on the best teams but just the best 24 players we can cobble together. Pretty sure Middleton was an all star that year. If you put Middleton on that wizards team and Beal on that Bucks team neither one is losing or winning way more than before.
Yo p, have you thought about making a segment for talking ab college hoops or even separate videos?
Yo your podcast is the best man
I love the way you look at the game and I feel like you look at it as a much bigger thing. I think there is a difference between diving into the weeds versus expanding the game and looking at the game more broadly as a concept than just basketball. That’s how I see it, but that might make no sense. Still… much love
Kenny dropping a hawks video. P dropping a hawks video. Deadline coming up. It’s good to be an Atlanta fan
Can’t wait for that deadline bruh
According to the nba the reserves were voted by head coaches from their conference, who picked 2 guards 3 front court and 2 additional. They also couldn’t vote for a player on their own team. That means a given player could only receive a maximum of 14 votes. Some players would be obvious locks for reserves to that removes some of the possibilities. This means for the snubs it is the coaches who are the problem. Trae young is someone who has made some rivalries so the coaches can just be biased against him. I would imagine for the kings fox and sabonis stole votes from each other because coaches only wanted one or the other.
Yeah It could be some secret grudge non specific coaches have against Young OR given that there is no evidence of that those 15 Eastern Conference Head Coaches do more than look at box score numbers.
best podcast in the world!!! i totally agree with you though on trae young and sabonis it’s really sad actually seeing these guys easily have all-star even all-NBA type seasons and then just not get the recognition they deserve. like u said tho P the real ones know. been loving the podcast bro keep up that good work 💯💯
I have control over noncontact injuries. If i keep having issues with the same body part, I need to make a change to what I've been doing. I can change what I eat, how i work out and what to include in my exercise to strengthen whatever i hurt. I can change how I move around or even how I play to avoid the same issues. Something as simple as how i plant my feet and change direction, how I decelerate. I used to be heavy, so i had knee and ankle issues. I strengthened my lower body and lost weight. I made sure i ate extremely healthy and took vitamins. Just because something is harder for bigger people does not mean it cant be done.
Guys should always do things to prevent the same issues before they let it become a constant problem. Joel Embiid is a guy that we all know was never big on taking care of his body until a couple years ago. He should've been doing that from the beginning. Obviously no one wants to get injured, but I dont think certain guys have the dedication or even intelligence to nip these issues in the bud. Chris Paul mentioned becoming vegan improving his body and helping him stay healthy when he was in OKC. Imagine if he made that change before his injury history got as long as it did.
Steve Kerr didn’t pick up Trae for the USA team but he doubled teamed damn near all last game. I know Kerr didn’t have Trae on his list
Hey I have a question will you do a consider a college basketball segment or something cause college sports is so 🔥
Great video pierre
Players hate Trae Young, moreover medias don't want to cover for Atlanta. However Fans in the world loves him as a person and professional player. I am proud that the Hawks have him as a member. From Atlanta Hawks fan
P I really don’t agree with the statement that fans don’t want a championship they just want a chance . I’m taking one championship and not going back like the raptors than get close every year and not win like the Celtics
You right bro, that is why it is important to know history, based on the history you experienced with the Chicago city and organization and how they turned on rose you probably feel the city of Philadelphia and organization is going to turn on joel, well as a philly native they are already talking now about moving on from him and what kind of compensation his trade might provide
Please add time stamps 🙏
The official report should start with “yo” 🤣 love P man
Love the trae young take, never been a huge trae guy myself but I think at this point it’s time to give him his flower. He 100% deserved to be an all star this season. And when it comes to Fox and Sabonis, I have to agree when you say say you don’t know what makes an all star because the debate is different for every different player. Steph hit it on head, it’s political.. idk what that entails but it seems to be the reason for the bizarre all star selections the last few year, if not longer
Super unfortunate for Embiid and the 76ers at this point of the season
I get what u saying p remember this happened to Mike Conley
P don’t want embiid back for the playoffs for no other reason but his Knicks having a better shot at ECF 😂
Don’t necessarily disagree with the injuries not being able to be controlled especially for some of embiids other freak injuries specifically the orbital bone fractures but there comes a time where we have to consider that Embiid is just going to miss a sizeable portion of the season and most likely playoff games every single year. This is also a situation where we need to ask why this is happening to Embiid more frequently than other superstars? Injuries are a part of the game but some guys just stay hurt
great podcast
Not necessarily only about winning, but the difference between AD and Trae Young is that AD is Good offensively and Great Defensively, Trae young is Good offensively and historically bad Defensively, puts up great numbers and that can lead to wins if he's efficient, but that's the problem he's not as efficient as he should be. All these factors have to be taken into consideration. And when you look at bad teams that have 2 Allstars it's teams with starters like Curry Bron and KD. Just saying 27 10 is too much of a simplification when considering what the Coaches look at.
In regards to Kat over Sabonis? Idk what to tell you 😂
Its numbers and popularity P
58:29 as of recently in 2k I’ve been sending Matisse Thybulle to the Bucks for Pat Connaton . I believe him and Bobby portis are the only big pieces that they should trade
I’m kinda confused as to why he went on about the tweets regarding joel embiid. I don’t see anything wrong with them they’re giving updates as best they can without any the information. Shams n them ain’t doctors why would they just throw out he needs surgery without knowing
hit it on the head, they gotta be consistent with it.
I wish I could tell you why they hate Trae. I know that the Lloyd pierce situation didn’t end well but that’s one coach. Other coaches won’t vote for Trae but double team the shit out of him cause of his gravity. I don’t understand man.
On the Trae Young thing, i do think it's really a case of him just pissing the wrong people off and it started with the nutmegs and foul baiting in games (coaches). Then the New York thing happened (media). I feel he just leaves a bad taste in people's mouth despite the talent.
Embiid is the most hated by Fans but Trae is the most disrespected by coaches and high level execs
We’ll players feel the same about him as well. If I remember right, in last years player vote for the best players in the league, Trae got like 3 votes. That’s out of the whole NBA. That’s wild. And I wonder why Coaches and execs are fond of him… maybe it’s because he’s already pushed 2 coaches out in his first 6 years
I feel it’s just a popularity contest at the end of the day
I knew he was done from the moment they announced the surgery. It broke my heart man. But we got cap space and a young bull in Maxey. We've had worse years than this. We'll be back again next with a chip on our shoulders and an experienced young guy.
Yeah but that’s cool
So where do we draw the line as fans? How can Joel be a top player if he can’t stay healthy? His 40+ games should be compared to a players 82 games
ill keep saying it, if trae young had a full head of hair he'd be a perennial all star
Over the last 3 seasons, Trae has the most points + assists by a sizable gap (roughly 300), yet has only made the all star once out of those 3 seasons.
Edit: he apparently has the most points and assists in the last 5 years. Only an all star 2 of those 5 years.
yes
115 ppg is average this season. We know the bucks suck defensively… I just don’t think bringing up the points scored against the bucks this past week (around league average) supports your point that they are struggling
It really doesn’t. I mean the whole Utah game doesn’t either. We have also heard P give teams a break cause “they were coming off a back to back” bucks were coming off a back to back completing the 2nd largest comeback in the league this season (25 points). And to piggyback off of ur point about points scored against the bucks being a bad point , the Mavs scored 44 points in that first quarter And for the rest of the 3 quarters the bucks held them under 28 points.
If he needs surgery, then he shouldn't come back this season. That type of surgery takes at least a month before you're allowed to put full weight on it. Sure he's rich and can get the best surgeons, but they aren't magicians. Your body still needs to heal. Sure they can rush it, but the risk of re injure is even higher then.
It’s not a bad take to say he’s the most hated in the league
Nah that’s probably Randle 😂
Yessir P
This the same league that gave embid a mvp over jokic. Yea bro it's politics on another level.
All Star is never going to be about just numbers or just winning, that's just a stupid and simplistic way of looking at things, so should we just watch OKC and Boston play against each other? It should always be a mix of both
As far as the Sabonis snub whether you like it or not you have to factor in player's reputation, popularity, market of their team. It's not right but it's also not hard to understand why he was snub, he's not as big of a name yet
He's 5th in MVP race, on a team in California, that's winning games, and playing fantastic individually how is he not big enough
I understand why you feel this way about trae but he's peers feel the same way as the coaches. I say he was ranked 12th in guards by them. And history tells us if it's not just one group or person it's most likely the person in question
Coaches shouldn't get all star votes, huge conflict of interest
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The fans are voting for Trae Young. The players rate him very low. He was rated 12th by players last year and 6th this year. Blame the players.
There this ons dude taking your ideas I don't know if youve noticed him
Kot3q or something like that
Let's be real the reason Trae Young is left off these teams is because the fraternity of coaches who believe Trae got his coaches fired..
Hated? No. But he is the most disrespected for sure..
I agree he’s disrespected, but he legitimately is getting hate as well. The coaches “respect” him enough to full court press, double team, trap, game plan, etc. on Trae starting from the first quarter. But yet they don’t wanna give him the credit of being a top player in the league. That’s hate.
@@Atlantafan21you should check out “A.M Hoops” video on this Trae topic. Coaches fr got a vendetta against him for getting his past coaches fired. The coaches also have their own fraternity as much as the players do. Kinda messed up but it goes both ways so🤷♂️
Reall pistons fans dont want Zach lavine in detroit either 😂
can you start using timestamps?
The Lakers haven't been 2 games above or below 500 for a month now, maybe going on two. So try again.
Also, it's a given but 500 in the west is not 500 in the east.
Okay that makes sense but his argument is about Trae young his name isn’t as big as Lebron and AD but that should not matter hell curry got in and they have basically the same record as hawks I think you missed the point just because he messed up the record of the lakers by like 3 games
Trae young didn’t get the coaches votes no coach in league respects Trae young
Neither do the players.. His game is phony when it comes to winning at the highest level. He plays the opposite of team ball and no one likes that especially when you aren't even dominant like that.
Al Horford gon shut Embiid down I’ll tell u that much
wow this is so bad that i unsubscribe - first you make excuses for unfit players who earn millions and dont even try to get fit so they dont get hurt - and then you cry about trae young ?????????? you high ??????? do you have any clue what you re talking about ? try to justify trae young makes a clown out of you ^^ everyone who has played one sec and sees trae one time knows everything he needs to know - thats why no one in the nba takes him serious - because he arent !