Capitano's Plan to Cheat Death (Genshin Impact 5.1 Lore, Theory, & Speculation)

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  • @heartoftarassque
    @heartoftarassque Місяць тому +1016

    Can we talk for a moment that Capitano was such a gigachad that his Khaenriah soldiers literally FOLLOWED HIM IN DEATH, seeking for ways to come back from the dead to serve him once more???

    • @Gumballer92
      @Gumballer92 Місяць тому +23

      Very cool Heart of Tarassque

    • @Rinelin
      @Rinelin Місяць тому +134

      Not only his Khaenriah soldiers, but also more recently his Fatui soldiers too

    • @heartoftarassque
      @heartoftarassque Місяць тому +167

      @@Rinelin true. Like he ordered them "You will give your lives in Natlans war now" and there was ZERO disagreement.
      This is a significant leap in professionalism compared to Fatui soldiers in other regions. Like no wonder agents from Monstadt wanted to serve under him that bad. Man is like Suvorov.

    • @deathsinger969
      @deathsinger969 Місяць тому +41

      Man, I wanna serve hin too…

    • @miniatureben3558
      @miniatureben3558 Місяць тому +30

      With a man like that in the helm you could even charged towards the gates of hell itself

  • @berrybread7215
    @berrybread7215 Місяць тому +797

    another khaenri’ah guy with trauma secured, let’s fucking go

    • @2fullbluemoons
      @2fullbluemoons Місяць тому

      ALL Khaenrians have trauma, Celestia WIPED their nation from the map 😂

  • @No.Google.I.dont.like.handles
    @No.Google.I.dont.like.handles Місяць тому +609

    Traveller and Capitano casually talking about Dainslief and the abyss sibling
    Mavuika, who was in Natlan 500 years ago:🤐

    • @lenajohnson6179
      @lenajohnson6179 Місяць тому +79

      well in Mavuika's defense... we haven't asked her about it yet... but it's still not beyond belief she has no idea who your sibbling is. Ei and Morax were there too... they never met your sibbling either.

    • @motemo8413
      @motemo8413 Місяць тому +79

      i honestly believe that the "secret" she will share with us has not been revealed yet. some ppl think it had smth to do with her back-up plan or Ronova's powers that she shared with us in act 3-4 but i doubt it.
      i think it has something to do about the sibling or smth cuz in act 2 she says that "She knows more about the Traveler than Traveler can imagine", like hello? tf does that mean dawg

    • @marfaleon7025
      @marfaleon7025 Місяць тому +69

      @@lenajohnson6179 Truth be told, Morax does know our sibling, but he has NDA contract with Celestia so in his 2nd story quest he said he can't talk about it due to contract.

    • @lowkeychains
      @lowkeychains Місяць тому

      ​@@marfaleon7025 nah he doesn't lie he just tells u he won't talk about it if he knew

    • @alexanderpalmarin7840
      @alexanderpalmarin7840 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@lowkeychains I actually think Zhongli can literally just decide to break contracts that he made if he wants it.

  • @FlashKillerX
    @FlashKillerX Місяць тому +322

    The only issue I have with this theory is that if it turns out to be right and Capitano sacrifices himself in Mavuika’s place, it means he won’t be playable. I simply can’t handle that

    • @lemonlime8635
      @lemonlime8635 Місяць тому +21

      Yeah im scared and i dont want that to happen😭

    • @accelerator9145
      @accelerator9145 Місяць тому +14

      And seeing how popular he is, that would be a massive miss for HYV

    • @am.9206
      @am.9206 Місяць тому +52

      My copium is that after the curse of immortality is broken and Capitano is sort of in a Limbo (between life and death) his will to survive and keep fighting for his comrades will grant him a vision and let him break out of the night kingdom alive. Then he can become playable. This would be the second such occurrence after wanderer and it might be a good way for the writers to drop some new lore stuff how visions are given out?

    • @ProkerKusaka
      @ProkerKusaka Місяць тому +6

      I mean they need to sell Mavuika and make her the hero of the patch

    • @bananacat5427
      @bananacat5427 Місяць тому +23

      i’m hoping hoyo isn’t dumb enough to fumble such a good character but then again the natlan cast so far is surely.. something

  • @sato-lr2ln
    @sato-lr2ln Місяць тому +65

    Now i need capitano to say “rules are made to be broken” to reference hsr

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +13

      traveler or capitano whipping out a baseball bat

  • @Zeke1460
    @Zeke1460 Місяць тому +285

    Also about Dain: he has the ring of Nibelung. We still don’t know what it does. That’s likely why his body isn’t deteriorating though. He’s somehow connected to Nibelung himself.

    • @rajaryan-fe1oy
      @rajaryan-fe1oy Місяць тому +7

      @@Zeke1460 I've heard this theory before, when was this implied? Is it because of his constellation oraboros

    • @s_lava3244
      @s_lava3244 Місяць тому +40

      ​@@rajaryan-fe1oyone of the Pari also mentions finding Dainsleif being half monster and clutching a ring

    • @rajaryan-fe1oy
      @rajaryan-fe1oy Місяць тому +18

      @@s_lava3244 oh yeah it makes sense it would the Ring of Nibelung then, I wonder how the other Sinners worked around the curse, if then even did

    • @s_lava3244
      @s_lava3244 Місяць тому +17

      @@rajaryan-fe1oy well they're sinners because they have accepted abyss power maybe that helps? hmmm

    • @calladricosplays
      @calladricosplays Місяць тому +7

      Someone posted on reddit the idea that the ring belonged to the Alberichs so Kaeya will have to steal it back to use it to save his grandfather Capitano lol

  • @Zeke1460
    @Zeke1460 Місяць тому +496

    I just really want Capitano to be playable…
    But the red flags around him (rotting body, way taller model than any other character, masked, talking about death) make me think he’s gonna die.
    I REALLY hope we revive him if he dies. Because I want him playable so damn bad.

    • @lathamtk
      @lathamtk Місяць тому +150

      I think he might enter the Sacred Flame and be "reborn" (aka get a redesign) much like Scara/Wanderer did.

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 Місяць тому +76

      @@lathamtkplease god natlan only has 3 men and at least one is a twink (Ifa probably is too)

    • @fortheburbsandmemes7419
      @fortheburbsandmemes7419 Місяць тому +28

      I think it’s a hit or miss rn to say to much if he’s going to be playable or not. I mean he did get a playable character icon in 5.1 story quest if you check around the map during the events of natlan vs the abyss as you can actively see his progress in the first half of the war with him fending off the abyss an fighting abyss hearlds.
      An also considering his fight with pyro archon and him helping one of his soldiers what seems similar to night soul. I think it kinda be a waste if they chose not to be playable.

    • @asp954
      @asp954 Місяць тому +85

      It's too big of a waste. Let's get into the reasons he would be playable without getting into leak territory.
      1.) Popularity - In a CN poll about the most anticipated characters from the 5.0 trailer, Il Capitano was 3rd place, followed by Citlali and Mavuika.
      2.) Morality - In this regard, he's already better than every other Fatui Harbinger. Arlecchino deems him to be worthy of respect even without his powers, and I suspect his sense of justice is why.
      3.) Marketing and Involvement in the Natlan AQ - He has been hyped up too much by Hoyo, and he's been too relevant to both Natlan and highly likely Khaenri'ah to just kill off. (without bringing him back)

    • @skylight0237
      @skylight0237 Місяць тому +13

      I think he will break the rule of death and the curse on the same time by being the Archon of Pyro then he will take his old body back and become a human again and make mauvika live and bring the gnosis back to tsaritsa and that's what Capitano needs to do please

  • @AnonymousInternetUserLaine
    @AnonymousInternetUserLaine Місяць тому +228

    Nothing can compare to an extensive video that is EXACTLY 15 minutes long
    Thank you roozevelt, very cool

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +24

      intentional on my part. thank you for noticing it just looks soooo good

  • @SonicRooncoPrime
    @SonicRooncoPrime Місяць тому +120

    It's nice to know you also believe Capitano wants to save Mavuika and I also wondered if he could cheat the "death" with his immortality (and even if not he'd probably be happy to die a hero), but turning that into a cosmic-scale middle finger to the Shades and their rules is just masterful strategizing and theorizing on your part, thanks so much Roozevelt, please keep the great videos coming!!

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 Місяць тому +24

      Either way, the plan is win-win for Capitano. Or to say it another way, 'checkmate'
      Either Capitano gets to give the middle finger to a god's rules and save Mavuika.
      Or he gives a middle finger to a god's curse and finally dies AND still saves Mavuika

  • @kirkshanghai
    @kirkshanghai Місяць тому +44

    Oh, one other thing that may support your theory about Capitano and Dain being commanders of each 'half' of knights: They are both experiencing the khanrian curse oppositely: Dain's mind is rotting but body is fine, Capitano's mind seems OK but his body is rotting. Interesting.....

    • @cam9913
      @cam9913 Місяць тому +2

      Oh my god.....

    • @Bingogogo721
      @Bingogogo721 24 дні тому

      this is like how self annihilators in star rail have different things being lost

  • @Sue_1st
    @Sue_1st Місяць тому +190

    Damn Capitano is singlehandedly carrying the story rn

    • @rao9574
      @rao9574 Місяць тому +7

      Nah, MC needs to revive a pyro dragon to get the pyro element, so it will be interesting.

    • @ashrafhakim379
      @ashrafhakim379 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@rao9574why? Pyro dragon literally evil lmao

    • @rao9574
      @rao9574 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@ashrafhakim379 Because MC gets power from them (not archons, when you start a game you listen heart beat ) and without pyro he don't has light element in the end. MC assensin material is Brilliant Diamond Gemstone (i don't know why I remember it was called prism lol and in science "an ordinary triangular prism can separate white light into its constituent colours") ... I assum it will be something with our saurian and Mare Jivari.

    • @rao9574
      @rao9574 Місяць тому +3

      Off topic but I still thinking - is it good for MC to get Ancient Name? Isn't it like signing up for Irminsul, only in a less advanced version?

    • @ashrafhakim379
      @ashrafhakim379 Місяць тому +1

      @@rao9574 but still tho pyro dragon is evil traveler might find it another way

  • @iris-28
    @iris-28 Місяць тому +136

    2:00 SAME LMAO
    I’m curious about why capitano had this shady nightsoul aura-like thing around him while fighting mavuika if he’s not from natlan, I wonder if this was also the result of some sort of exception to the rules ? But it’s probably not him getting an ancient name in the past tho, cuz mavuika confirmed the traveler will be the first outlander to get one.
    Also I was wondering, if the tsaritsa allows the harbingers enough freedom to the point that said freedom can take priority over her orders…doesn’t that easily set the harbingers up to betray her as soon as they reach a point where their goals differ ? I wonder then if part of pierro’s role as the director of the fatui is to “oversee his troupe” and make sure they don’t step too out of line in the tsaritsa’s stead, but that would kinda make it an illusion of freedom rather than actual freedom so I’m not too sure about this one.
    Also capitano’s power being a shadow of what it once was makes one really wonder, if this dude is the first of the fatui harbingers now, how powerful was he 500 years ago…

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +39

      you know, i was thinking about talking about it, but my thinking was is that during the AQ we see him use that soul cleansing technique from the Masters of the Night Wind. So I wonder if it's some art he also learned from them? Looking back at the aura, it's definitely more smokey than defined, though, so idk.
      and with the tsaritsa - I would imagine she'd make that rule knowing that anyone could split at any time (e.g. scaramouche). I guess she and pierro are just confident they won't be outright betrayed? unsure, good question to chew on!!

    • @iris-28
      @iris-28 Місяць тому +26

      @@roozeveltfox yeah it’s quite possible, if I’m not mistaken the person who helped capitano in natlan 500 years ago was the then-chief of the masters of the night wind I think ? Seems likely to me that this must’ve been when and from whom he learned their soul cleansing techniques, if the aura turns out to be another one of the tribe’s techniques then he must’ve learned it around the same time too I think

    • @vietcuongnguyenle8530
      @vietcuongnguyenle8530 Місяць тому +3

      @@iris-28 the problem is consider tsaritsa goal
      Betray tsaritsa not give the habringer any benefit
      That is one of the reason tsaritsa allow that much freedom
      Why betray when you not get anything from it
      Even dottore doesn’t get any thing from betray tsaritsa because his research is a technology development which celestial not want it. Tsaritsa goal is the only thing help him can do research without get stopped by higher being

    • @iris-28
      @iris-28 Місяць тому +2

      @@vietcuongnguyenle8530 that may be true as of right now, but in the future if any of the harbingers find themselves faced with a situation where betraying the tsaritsa would benefit them, then this freedom would backfire on the tsaritsa

    • @vietcuongnguyenle8530
      @vietcuongnguyenle8530 Місяць тому +3

      @@iris-28 base in the habringer desire
      Until now only scramouche have reason to betray her
      But he already gone

  • @spieds9994
    @spieds9994 Місяць тому +141

    You know, i DO think Mavukia will die by the end of AQ but not in the basic meaning of death. For the last, what? 2 years or so, we've had the theme of Death = one time loss of memory, so i wonder if Mavuika's death will be her losing the memory of AT LEAST everything before she was reborn (so her family, time 500 years ago, friends etc) or maybe even everything at all.
    Also, now that It's quite likely that the curse of immortality DID come from Celestia/shade of death, i think the reason for it WAS in fact that a lot of Khaenri'ahns got exposed to the forbidden knowledge, so Celestia decided to avoid the Rukkha situation on the National scale by basically filtering the whole nation all together from the Ley Lines/Irminsul by not allowing them to die and go back to the ley lines.
    And honestly, thinking about it that way, it's hard for me to HATE them for it, cuz just from Rukkha's corruption, Sumeru had a bunch of Withering and the like. Imagine if the whole nation worth of Forbidden Knowledge got into Irminsul. Teyvat probably would have already been fully corrupted by the Abyss.

    • @aperson6562
      @aperson6562 Місяць тому +22

      Yeah her death is definitely not gonna be normal. The way they outright stated she’d die even in the trailer was a bit sus to me. Hoyo loves misdirecting(thinking back to the furina death sentence thing) so I’m pretty confident she’ll remain alive while dying in some other way if at all

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +46

      yeah, and that's totally possible / likely - the entire AQ i was thinking about Arlecchino and death/memory (especially since she's like, Capi's coworker)
      the angle about keeping forbidden knowledge out of the leylines is interesting because like... the way I've framed it in my head, Capitano thinks anything is worth the price of saving Natlan. so maybe, from Celestia's perspective, the curse may have also been an "at any cost" type of measure. which in Mavuika's words "wouldn't be [their] decision to make. i see a parallel here (if this makes sense ahah)

    • @ishdjdjshdudhe
      @ishdjdjshdudhe Місяць тому +2

      that reminds me of the stuff in arlechinnos story quest and also the interlude quest with wanderer and fontaines stuff with Furina so it’s possible I just would hate to see Mavuika go 💔

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 Місяць тому +1

      @@aperson6562 also in star rail penacony arc
      Spoiler
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      We are told that Firefly is fated to 'die' 3 times and even directly told that because she entered the dreamscape abnormally, she HAS TO DIE if she wants to leave....
      And yet she's alive. Meanwhile Gallagher (a random man) was taken out.

    • @amouramarie
      @amouramarie Місяць тому

      This is really plausible, since Genshin is very much a story of "nobody is evil, everybody is just defending what they cherish."

  • @marfaleon7025
    @marfaleon7025 Місяць тому +52

    It feels more like Capitano is trying to find a way how to die. Clothar supposedly achieved it via Abyss and Vedrfolnir, Dain and Pierro remain alive and somewhat fine till now, Capitano may be really sick of being a walking corpse, so for him seeking one who can bring him Death is like, pretty obvious goal. It could be also that he made a deal with Ronova that he'll do something in exchange for Death. We already have similar case with Blade in HSR, where strong immortal man who cannot die seeks out being capable of granting him death and works for that being.

  • @信衞門
    @信衞門 Місяць тому +42

    The reason why C*lestia nailed Khaenri'ah was because they were so pretty the S*stainer got jealous

    • @mptyalln
      @mptyalln Місяць тому +15

      whats with the censoring lmao

    • @antares_m20
      @antares_m20 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@mptyallnthey're equivalent to hi*let irl ig lol

    • @mavisseafoam
      @mavisseafoam Місяць тому

      bruh wtf is rhis reply section, no way you guys are comparing holocaust to a fucking anime villain with big tits

    • @mavisseafoam
      @mavisseafoam Місяць тому +5

      @@antares_m20bruh no way you’re comparing these two things

    • @antares_m20
      @antares_m20 27 днів тому

      @@mavisseafoam cry about it (not me it's scara saying that)

  • @Truck-kun11
    @Truck-kun11 Місяць тому +68

    Hear me out:
    What if Ronova doing so much to help Natlan is less about charity and more about redemption?
    Perhaps she was forced by the Heavenly Principles to curse Khaenri'ah and helping Natlan was a way to ease her conscience, which would explain why a seemingly benevolent and humanity-loving Goddess would do something so terrible.

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +42

      the Lord of Night did say she was wallowing in self-pity.... I'm not sure if it's just about Khaenri'ah/the cataclysm though because Xbalanque came way before then. BUT the curse isn't unique to the cataclysm, either (re: Ukko in dragonspine). so they've been cursing people for a long time. interesting food for thought!!!

    • @nathan7031
      @nathan7031 Місяць тому +12

      To continue on that line of thought let’s move the point of redemption from Khaenri’ah to what rooze said - the ancient pre-AW post-second who came civilizations like Tsurumi Island. This alone would explain her self-pity quite well

    • @vietcuongnguyenle8530
      @vietcuongnguyenle8530 Місяць тому +5

      Uhm
      Ronova let the pyro archon borrow her power 2500 years ago
      500 years ago mavuika can’t do this because khaenri’ah accident is a thing suddenly happen, she not have time to prepare to use ronova power

    • @cherryleafy101
      @cherryleafy101 Місяць тому

      I think the heavenly principles were forced to curse the Khaenrians. I've theorised for a long time now, I'm pretty sure since the Chasm was released, that the curse of immortality is to stop forbidden knowledge on an apocalyptic scale from entering the ley line system. We saw what happened when Rukkhadevata was corrupted, now imagine if an entire nation corrupted by it died and entered the system. There would be no cleansing that. So the heavenly principles had to find a work around; curse all the infected so they can't die and will instead crumble away until they cease to exist and so don't enter the ley lines. It's essentially a giant, cruel but necessary quarantine.

  • @kian-ganji
    @kian-ganji Місяць тому +36

    Up until now 3 nations had connections to 3 different shades:
    Monstadt and Venti with the shade of time
    Possibly Fontaine and egiria with the shade of life
    And now natlan with shade of death
    So the unknown god is most likely the shade of space

    • @Pre4xes_
      @Pre4xes_ Місяць тому +3

      Bro we have known this since the beginning of time 😭

    • @MiniFatRat
      @MiniFatRat Місяць тому +7

      Since time=wind, life=water, death=fire, I think space will be earth. Which means the possibility that the sustainer has a connection with liyue. Which could explain why everything there (vision, the box the Morax statue is holding, etc) is more cube like the sustainers power

    • @Pre4xes_
      @Pre4xes_ Місяць тому +1

      @@MiniFatRat morax has a connection to the sustainer just like how venti is to istaroth and egeria is to the shade of life probably

    • @MiniFatRat
      @MiniFatRat Місяць тому

      @@Pre4xes_ yeah that’s what I mean. And now how xbalanque has a connection to ronova the shade of death

    • @frenchrevenge6406
      @frenchrevenge6406 Місяць тому +1

      Istaroth also had a hand in helping Ei create the Sacred Sakura, so ALL Aarchons (except maybe Nahida) had dealings with The Shades

  • @RodrigoLeaf15
    @RodrigoLeaf15 Місяць тому +34

    One problem I see with the idea of the paradox is that, in the final part of the quest, when we see the dialogue between Xbalanque and Ronova, it said that "if the pyro archon can't defeat their fear to death, then the price will be paid by other people instead of the archon", establishing that the option of basically killing the rest of the people of Natlan as the price is available to Ronova.
    Faced with the paradox of trying to kill a cursed inmortal, the Shade could simply instead kill the people of Natlan as payment.
    My crack theory with a possible Capitano Pyro Archon would be, him using that same superattack, but on Ronova herself. After all, Mavuika said it's a power "beyond any Archon" and since it comes from the Shade, it should have the power to "kill" the Shade. And with Ronova "dead", no one could claim any debt...

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +19

      I was thinking about addressing this (in retrospect I probably have found better wording for my thoughts) - but my line of thinking is very much about the fine print. What Ronova says is about a fear of death, which I think implies a hesitation or retraction of their end of the bargain. I do not think Capitano would have that fear she speaks of.
      also tbh Capi blastin Ronova would be pretty peak so I'm putting that on my wishlist now

    • @Kanethedragon
      @Kanethedragon Місяць тому +1

      @@roozeveltfox Also to add, usually with these things, an automated system is typically put in place that activates upon the trigger so that you know, neither party has to be manually monitoring when it's used so that situations like "Oh, it's been 20 years since blud used up our deal, maybe I should go collect my tax now" don't happen and so automated is better for a swift and effective resolution that ensures proper fulfillment. Likewise in this theoretical scenario of Capitano stealing the seat to do this, it really depends on the writers, but typically if they wanted to keep things to strict legalese, that would mean this sort of exception would need to be considered and baked in to the original automated system otherwise it'd just encounter an error and fail to collect on that part of the trigger, thus only filling half the requirement (power, no drawbacks or a straight fail.) The other method and more lazy way out would be that we would presume the effect would "bounce" to the second option in the event it couldn't fulfill the first, which generally for pacts like these I don't imagine would be the default thought of a "higher being" like a god as typically those types are written with the hubris of assuming they couldn't be easily tricked or have loopholes found and thus they would not consider to bake in a bounce effect, opting in favor of the former.
      Now with that all being said, while I stated my belief of bouncing being unlikely, I should acknowledge that Ronova and most of the other shades were accustomed to interacting and observing humans indirectly, but were also open to their own individual minor schemes behind the PO's back, so who's to say they wouldn't have the foresight to consider rare exceptions to the rules of the pacts they make when they are familiar with humanity's game and could likely see such rare exception be possible centuries or millennia down the road. The question then would be whether or not they chose to ignore such possibility in that instance and either dismiss its possibility amongst the myriad futures, or they knew it would happen but chose such because it would be more entertaining that way, and typically for what's effectively a permanent being in most cases, boredom would be their worst enemy compared to the likelihood of encountering a mortal or foreign entity that could challenge their existence.

  • @cetribottle
    @cetribottle Місяць тому +95

    The main thing keeping me from the Anfortas theory is why would the commander of half the knights never have met the commander of the other half? You'd think there'd be like... debriefings and coordination and such.

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +26

      yeah I mentioned this in another comment that said the same thing and it's another inconsistency. unless capitano meant knowing him more personally (as captain vs. as dainsleif)

    • @Zeke1460
      @Zeke1460 Місяць тому +11

      Dain was captain of the black serpent knights. Iirc their only goal was to protect King Irmin and the abyss twin. Whereas Anfortas and the Swan Knights were the ones who actually protected Khaenrian citizens.

    • @bonk78624
      @bonk78624 Місяць тому +9

      They did met at least once. Capitano is aware of Dain's not-rotten body and his grief.
      Capitano decided to join the Tsaritsa and Dain decided to hunt the Abyss Order.
      They may have vastly different goals and their schedules may not match.

    • @rabitahmazumder2143
      @rabitahmazumder2143 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@bonk78624 that was after the fall of khannriah. Capitano says that he has only heard of dain while khannriah was still around.

  • @rajaryan-fe1oy
    @rajaryan-fe1oy Місяць тому +53

    A tall Cryo sword user from Khaenreah, yeah Capitano ain't beating Kaeya allegations

    • @undo9498
      @undo9498 29 днів тому +1

      And he wields that sword like a cutlass same as kaeya might be a family technique

  • @Ren_rz
    @Ren_rz Місяць тому +20

    I think the curse of Immortality is what the Lord meant when she says that he's been sent on a journey by Ronova.
    The curse probably works like how you grind down chalk overtime. It's still there but it has lost it's original form.
    Time will grind their body and mind until there's nothing left but dust,
    The traveller being made an exception is to ensure their safety, even if they get an ancient name there's no guarantee they'll. be allowed to enter the pilgrimage.
    I think the final For Capitano's talking about is either the abyss (due to his personal goal)
    Or
    Celestia (his final battle under the Tsaritsa)

  • @Infelious
    @Infelious Місяць тому +31

    Btw at some point in the Archon Quest (sorry can't remember the bit but it centres around Capitano) you get an Achievement called *The General in His Labyrinth* which seems to be a reference to a real world leader, the book is a mockery of him, Genshin usually flips things though but the guy wants to leave after giving up his leadership to someone else, he journeys with friends (people from his administration), getting more ill with time and he never leaves the country because they never get his passport. I read a short summary so I presume he dies too. The illness bit could be a reference too Capitano's situation physically, another thing is people wanted him back as the leader so that could be a reference to the fact people haven't given up on Khaenri'ah.

  • @v.v365
    @v.v365 Місяць тому +7

    This video gave me a closer look at Capitano’s design, and now knowing that he’s a rotting corpse under that armor, I noticed his inner jacket has a heart shape, with chains dangling from it in what looks to be the shape of a ribcage. Mans is a zombie and it took me this long to realize they were spelling it out for us.

    • @dear_totheheart
      @dear_totheheart Місяць тому +3

      Another theory is "a preserved saint," such as found venerated in Catholic cathedrals, housing the spirit and remnants within the relic...and with his design incorporating cross, bones, and heart symbology, interesting potential!

  • @TheMarioMations
    @TheMarioMations Місяць тому +6

    A big smile slowly grew on my face during your explanation on the paradox Capitano can make by cheating Ronova's rules and the heavenly principles. It's so damn smart and I really hope something like this will happen once the story continues in 5.3.
    Fantastic video! You definitely deserve more recognition.

  • @Frazzled_Chameleon
    @Frazzled_Chameleon Місяць тому +23

    Ashikai is all about Six Degrees of King Deshret. Roozevelt is all about Six Degreees of Kaeya Alberich.

    • @alias_undercover
      @alias_undercover Місяць тому +10

      Dawit is all about Six Degrees of THE PRIMORDIAL ONE, A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS.

    • @Nagutama
      @Nagutama Місяць тому +1

      ​@@alias_undercoverLMAO

    • @Besomar_Surahat
      @Besomar_Surahat Місяць тому +1

      ​@@alias_undercover I can hear the sound effects

  • @SpookyXD-14
    @SpookyXD-14 Місяць тому +5

    Bro the amount of times I got so excited while watching this 😭. I’ve been a fan of capitano since the Teyvat Chapter Interlude Teaser: A Winter Night's Lazzo, so I always love hearing more about him.

  • @jacklenden505
    @jacklenden505 Місяць тому +7

    In Genshin, if something big happens, A Khaen'rian is always behind it. They're all over the place

    • @MrNoms-cn6px
      @MrNoms-cn6px Місяць тому +1

      Ong. Their stench lingers on it like cat shit.

    • @jsw973
      @jsw973 26 днів тому

      Clothar "Eide" Alberich has ascended to the position of outer god and become Gosoythoth, leaving his rotting body and becoming one with the abyss, transcending space, time, life, and death (definitely not lies I'm credible)

  • @Yama_1291
    @Yama_1291 Місяць тому +56

    I don't think Renova has to agree to lend her powers to the Pyro archon every time they are invoked. She simply gave a slice of her power to Xbalanqe and the Pyro archons have just been tapping into that every time it was needed.
    So I believe Capitano would in fact die if he were to take Mavuikas place to pay the price of death simply because it's the same power that cursed him in the first place and Renova won't be there to stop it from happening because she doesn't actively consent to her power being used in Natlan.

  • @beepbeep7955
    @beepbeep7955 Місяць тому +9

    I hope Capitano gets a new body and then gets together with Mavuika

  • @marthaelenabrenesorozco2953
    @marthaelenabrenesorozco2953 Місяць тому +16

    GOOD VIDEO, maybe in Khaenri'ah everyone is a super model, everyone we know is very good looking

    • @kaeyaverse
      @kaeyaverse Місяць тому +4

      Khaenriahn genes so good they had to put an end to it

  • @bisayafascist5725
    @bisayafascist5725 Місяць тому +119

    I can already see a "Rules are meant to be broken" moment in 5.3. All of the people within Natlan gets to channel their powers and will to The Traveler and in turn the Traveler channels it along with their hidden Descender powers to Mavuika which overwrites the rule imposed by Ronova and breaking it.
    And as for the end result Ronova wakes up sees what happened and goes "well I'll be damned they really did it" and turns a blind eye and boom onward to Schneznaya.

    • @Devotchka101
      @Devotchka101 Місяць тому +1

      But why on schneznaya?

    • @bisayafascist5725
      @bisayafascist5725 Місяць тому +13

      @@Devotchka101 next region is Schneznaya.

    • @Zoltan545
      @Zoltan545 Місяць тому +4

      i hope you are wrong cause that sounds boring

    • @bisayafascist5725
      @bisayafascist5725 Місяць тому +2

      @@Zoltan545 Nuh uh

    • @Zoltan545
      @Zoltan545 Місяць тому +3

      @@bisayafascist5725 Womp Womp

  • @sleepyqinfei
    @sleepyqinfei Місяць тому +47

    it’s be really interesting if capitano’s plan involves him becoming the pyro archon in time for the deal mavuika made to fall to him - then capitano would be paradoxically cursed with immortality and fated to die in exchange for the pyro archon’s outburst of power

    • @sleepyqinfei
      @sleepyqinfei Місяць тому +20

      okay u literally said this verbatim i need to get better at paying attention

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +18

      we're just sharing brainwaves

  • @ImGaroutherohunter
    @ImGaroutherohunter Місяць тому +10

    Just wait till 5.2 we'll see “The Captain” aka Capitano kill the shade of death

  • @Zeke1460
    @Zeke1460 Місяць тому +39

    I’m 99.9% sure he’s Anfortas. Him not knowing Dain well doesn’t mean they’ve never met. Just that they didn’t really talk to each other.
    Also his “mission from the ruler of death” sounds intense. I wonder if the ruler of death is actually the one who created the curse of immortality, and if it can be removed by completing whatever “mission” Ronova gave them.
    Or if Ronova gave Capitano a personal mission and somehow met him after the cataclysm.
    It’s worth noting that Ronova may not have had a say in cursing the Khaenrians if she was the one to do it. It may have been a direct order from the heavenly principles. And her “mission” for Capitano could be to kill her jailer. Or to do something that will free his people from their curse,

  • @Ananas-in-the-sky
    @Ananas-in-the-sky Місяць тому +5

    My poor Khaenri’ahns need a full team of psychologists and psychotherapists 😢 The trauma is real ya’ll 😢
    Love you Rooze, keep talking about Khaenri’ah plz ❤❤❤❤❤

  • @the_nerdiest_nerd1
    @the_nerdiest_nerd1 Місяць тому +3

    The more we find out about Kaeya's family, the more devastating ragbros lore becomes. Like Diluc hates the Abyss and the Fatui. Kaeya is (potentially) the decedent of both Fatui and Abyssal leaders. Like how could hoyo make this MORE heartbreaking

  • @nathan7031
    @nathan7031 Місяць тому +8

    Interesting I took that line to mean that he himself also made a deal with Ronova and she sent him on his way. My idea for that scenario is that the final foe he’s alluding to is something probably saved more for post-Snez - any of the Great Sinners. Basically, he would use Ronova’s power to bring down the Sinner he was fighting down to the level of himself and the rest of humanity.
    No more godbreaking power - just a man/woman who took something that they shouldn’t have and one of the victims of their inaction simply giving em their just desserts. Of course, Capitano would then die to fulfill the pact - something he’s been probably wanting for 500 long years.

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +1

      very interesting, I didn't consider that angle at all! (tho it's only been a few days....) That seems plausable/compelling to have one of the Sinners be his final foe. Good food for thought to chew on!!

  • @mahiainti678
    @mahiainti678 Місяць тому +2

    One thing i noticed is the name of the achievement we get after talking to Capitano: "The general in his labyrinth". Which is a book by Gabriel Garcia Marquez about post-war memories of a military leader who tried (and ultimately failed) to unify his country. And the protagonist there is based on real-world Simon Bolivar. Hope we'll see more references to this in game, as im a fan of Marquez and 100 years of solitude especially (which was already referenced in one of the genshin book names)

  • @GoldenEyeLauren
    @GoldenEyeLauren Місяць тому +14

    There was one part towards the middle of the archon quest where someone mentions "capitanos sovereign"...
    wondering if the Tsaritsa is just a bitter old dragon with a grudge...

    • @bisayafascist5725
      @bisayafascist5725 Місяць тому +2

      We're the word sovereign have capital letters or small letters?

    • @GoldenEyeLauren
      @GoldenEyeLauren Місяць тому

      @@bisayafascist5725 tbh I don't really remember, sorry.

    • @Nationalist166
      @Nationalist166 Місяць тому +9

      Sovereign just means a ruler, i doubt it have anythings to do with the Dragons

    • @bisayafascist5725
      @bisayafascist5725 Місяць тому +6

      @@GoldenEyeLauren yeah it says sovereign not Sovereign so he's just mentioning the Tsaritsa as sovereign ruler.

  • @alias_undercover
    @alias_undercover Місяць тому +4

    3:07 Frankly I think it's that thing we got from the Aranaras, the one used to repel the effects of the Withering on Rana. The sibling and Dain did the same ritual as us, I guess for a similar reason.
    Edit: The name is Bija

  • @bloomiii7481
    @bloomiii7481 Місяць тому +12

    Crazy quest! Great video and theory! Capitano rotting from the inside

    • @akarirei
      @akarirei Місяць тому +3

      I honestly doubt he's gonna be playable. His entire plot doesn't seem like he will be made playable. If anything he might die in the stead of mavuika.

  • @wooshiey
    @wooshiey Місяць тому +2

    i knew i liked Capitano when i first saw him in the trailer but he has sky rocketed to one of my favourite characters in genshin of all time VERY fast after this quest. thank you so much for this video, his backstory is so interesting! i hope he’s playable so bad 😭

  • @DoeboyFreshNESS
    @DoeboyFreshNESS Місяць тому +9

    I wish i could subscribe to you 10 times! You are definitely one of the best genshin lorists out there!!

  • @strgz5329
    @strgz5329 Місяць тому +7

    the internet dopamine never lasts, but the promise for more genshin crackhead theory stays

  • @doragonzx
    @doragonzx Місяць тому +3

    Mavuika and Capitano have so many deathflags , i just hope Either of them wont give us a "final lesson" before sneyznya..
    Maybe Capitano want to die, to finally rest and put his cursed bretherens Unending existance. To feel yourself rotting away, your flesh, mind , soul. Only someone with extreme willpower or Even more powerfull object could resist this. He may become the Pyro archons just to be able to die, to sacrifice himself to save the Nation that adopted him, that accepted his and his soldiers nature .

  • @Saturos226
    @Saturos226 Місяць тому +2

    Capitano: That paradise may be unreachable for me... Savour it in my place.

  • @Ash_McSticks
    @Ash_McSticks Місяць тому +2

    The theory made so much sense so perfectly.. I'm concerned that you might have straight up spoiled how Natlan's story is going to played out, lol

  • @Noah-gn2gu
    @Noah-gn2gu Місяць тому +5

    This is interesting. I like this interpretation of how Mavuika will avoid death. My guess was that Archonhood would be passed to the Traveler and the Traveler would die but be resurrected by their ancient name and then Archonhood returned to Mavuika. I'm sure both Traveler and Capitano will play a role, but I can't wrap my head around a way in which they will both be involved.
    Unrelated but seeing how powerful and dangerous Abyssal corruption is, it's really no small wonder the Fatui recruited Kunikuzushi. It comes to mind because I don't think even Capitano is able to withstand Abyssal corruption. It HAS to be Traveler and Mavuika alone. Or Capitano if they are Archon.
    The problem I think is that Mavuika already has the death sentence. You could argue it's the "divine throne" instead... but then isn't that too close to Fontaine's story? I'm unsure.

  • @ashy969
    @ashy969 Місяць тому +1

    FINALLLYYYY!!! I know it takes time to make these but the waiting was painful! These lore drops were juicy

  • @hirods9889
    @hirods9889 Місяць тому +1

    Wow, I really like your paradox idea. And it's actually possible since most cursed kaenrian we saw seem to be seeking the liberation of death

  • @co-nq7vi
    @co-nq7vi Місяць тому +1

    Khaenriah is just so damn interesting i can't wait for more lore drops in the next part of the archon quest

  • @megamcee
    @megamcee Місяць тому +3

    GOD DAMN ABSOLUTE PEAK of a quest. And so much loreeeee.

  • @khwezimajoro
    @khwezimajoro Місяць тому +39

    13:00 the more I think about it, it's the traveller than will end up being the next Pyro Archon. It just kinda makes sense with the way the story has been going.

    • @Cosmic-Clod
      @Cosmic-Clod Місяць тому +1

      Perhaps

    • @gyannunez
      @gyannunez Місяць тому +4

      I agree. I have reasons for why I agree but I don’t want to yap without permission.

    • @lenajohnson6179
      @lenajohnson6179 Місяць тому +18

      I don't see this happening. It would put undue emphasis on the pyro element for a character whose whole shtick is being 'multi-elemental'

    • @gyannunez
      @gyannunez Місяць тому +31

      @@lenajohnson6179 The thing is, we finally got confirmation of the elemental rainbow theory. The idea that the elements diverge from some sort of primordial “light” from the Light Realm. That light is Phlogiston, which seems to also be the Primal Fire and the origin of the Sacred Flame. The Traveler’s whole theme is that of light, and they have been repeatedly compared to the sun throughout the game. Thematically, there is something to the idea that Pyro Traveler will be special.

    • @lenajohnson6179
      @lenajohnson6179 Місяць тому +6

      @@gyannunez I still don't buy it. We might at some point become the Archon of 'light' or something... but the idea that the Traveler will become the ruler of a nation is an ODD storyarc to push in a game about traveing an entire world and learning all about it.
      If Traveler became Pyro Archon, they'd have duties to Natlan SPECIFICALLY on top of becoming a character who is like 'canonically' the fire character in a game that wants to emphasize player freedom with the elements.
      Making the Traveler the pyro archon results in too much of that old 'ludonarrative dissonance'

  • @dalimelki2971
    @dalimelki2971 Місяць тому +1

    i just cant wait for 5.3 to come
    but for sure archon quest act 5 will be the biggest quest of all time

  • @roxojones
    @roxojones 9 днів тому

    literally just met your channel and i am in LOVE, from the narration to whats been told is ALL perfect!! rlly loved your content :)) thank you for making actually good genshin content!!!!

  • @ryukreya45
    @ryukreya45 Місяць тому +3

    I wish all capitano wanters the best of luck!
    May he not share signoras/scaramouches fates of not beeing playable because of death/redesign. May he be playable the way he is! Rotting in his armor!

  • @gloriousgravynugs
    @gloriousgravynugs Місяць тому +5

    SEE! I saw some capitano fanart where he was tan and I instantly said “he’s kaeyas daddy” then I was like “we heard his dads voice” so I look it up and compared it to capitano and they sound preeeeetty similar and now I have lore to potentially back me

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +4

      I also did a comparison and I'm undecided but it's waaaay closer than Pierro or Chlothar's voices (but I also havent done CN/JP/KR comparisons because it's so hard to find the videos asdlfk)

    • @pieterlindeque7798
      @pieterlindeque7798 Місяць тому

      Captain is pure blooded Khaenriahn though isn't he? So he wouldn't be tan because all pure blood/nobility Khaenriahns we've seen so far have light skin. Khaenriah is inspired by Scandanavia and Norse mythology. It's most likely that Keya's mother was dark skinned. If his father was a pure blooded/noble Khaenriahn then his mother must have been from somewhere else. Maybe even from Natlan. We don't know much about him yet except that he is an Alberich. I wonder how he escaped the curse and somehow didn't become a Hilichurl though. He is a special case for sure.

    • @CarlottaStudios
      @CarlottaStudios Місяць тому

      @@pieterlindeque7798 Agreed, as a pureblood Khaenri’ahn, Capitano is most likely pale-skinned, but he could still be Kaeya’s father or grandfather. And it makes perfect sense for Kaeya’s mother to be darker-skinned, thus explaining how Kaeya inherited a darker skin tone. That said, I’d suggest there’s a lot more implications that Kaeya’s mother is from Sumeru, not from Natlan. Kaeya’s mother being from Sumeru doesn’t prevent Capitano (if he is Kaeya’s dad or grandpa) from going to Natlan, in fact Natlan is right next to Sumeru’s desert.

  • @earlturner-ji2zr
    @earlturner-ji2zr Місяць тому +2

    People seem to get things mixed up Capitano was COMMANDER back then bot not a CAPTAIN like Dainsleif was.
    Captains and Marshals are a different position higher than commanders thats why Capitano cant be the CAPTAIN of the Swan Knights Anfortas.

  • @LittleLyre
    @LittleLyre Місяць тому

    Oh hell yeah I love how you put llama this together, I really feel it follows from everything we’ve seen in the AQs so far. Capitano being Anfortas would be a really interesting avenue to explore in relation to the Wagner operas as well, to see how that all fits together… much to think about!! Fantastic video as always Rooze 💖

  • @harukinakamura6630
    @harukinakamura6630 Місяць тому +1

    To add to your theory on capitano's participation in the pilgrimage, mavuika literally asks him specifically out of all people in the ignition " are you brave enough to compete " not only that but while everyone else had their picture burning capitano was the only one that didnt and remained in tack in reference to " the winners shall burn bright while the losers must turn to ash "

  • @sleepyqinfei
    @sleepyqinfei Місяць тому +3

    ROOZE VIDEO THIS MADE MY DAY WOOHOO this is a cause for celebration ☺️☺️

  • @kristenp433
    @kristenp433 23 дні тому

    When I got to the reveal in the story that Capitano was Khaenriahan I was so excited to hear what Roozevelt would say.

  • @1Gymfreak1
    @1Gymfreak1 Місяць тому +3

    papa capitano won't let mama mavuika die...

  • @karinamae51
    @karinamae51 Місяць тому +1

    This is the kinda ((crack)) theories I subscribe to

  • @kirkshanghai
    @kirkshanghai Місяць тому +1

    This is probably too obvious to mention here but I will say anyway: Capitano vying for the archon's position itself would also, by default, award him the Pyro Gnosis, which he could then pass along to the Tsarista. Also holy shit the Fatui are absolutely the coolest part of this game

  • @helena4320
    @helena4320 Місяць тому +1

    Love the video and your ideas! What makes me personally question if Capitano would have been the commander of the schwanenritter is that in the end of the Shadows of the Mountains quest the two soldiers, Zephaniah and Irizar, who we find and have to grant peace to are Black Serpent Knights. To be fair it is not a given that they are soldiers that operated under Capitano, but then again since it was stated that Capitano and his men fought in Natlan also 500 years ago, one could think that the soldiers in the quest would be hinting to the direction of Capitano. Also them fighting against the abyss for Natlan but not wanting anyone to know that they were heroic is an exact match to the Fatui soldiers who in the Archon quest fought off the Abyss to save the couple of people from Natlan and then said that for thanks they only wish that their deeds do not get mentioned. This makes me think even more that the two Black Serpent Knights were under Capitano, as this shared attitude of not wanting to be known and not wanting praise and glory seems to reflect the attitude of Capitano (since even the Archon herself had not heard that Capitano helped Natlan before). Then again this all is as much speculation as is the idea that Capitano's soldiers were in fact schwanenritter, so we'll just have to wait and see!

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +2

      thank you sm!!!! also, re: Zephaniah and Irizar being BSK. I think this may be a rare-r instance of Hoyo reusing existing models for convenience. In Jazari's quest we fight Ynghildr in the ruin golem, and she took the form of a BSK: Windcutter, and Ynghildr was 100000% a member of Schwanenritter. So they may be doing the same for those two, as "general Khaenri'ahn knights." and I agree it's definitely likely they were in his platoon! But also Halfdan and Guthred have the same outfits, and they were slightly lower ranking members of BSK and Schwanenritter respectively

    • @helena4320
      @helena4320 Місяць тому

      Oooh I didn't remember at all they used the same models previously to represent all the khaenri'ah knights! No further questions then your honor, I have been convinced.

  • @elis_swan3271
    @elis_swan3271 Місяць тому +1

    I liked Capitano's Fatui theme so much,though it is played in low key it is still so majestic
    Also, we don't really know what role Capitano played in Khaenri'ah,but he was probably somewhere in nobility, and he still knew Dain only by name. It's so mind-boggling how famous and unreachable Dain was in his prime, and we can hang out with this dude once a year!
    Also,the thing about Dain's body not decaying: he blames Sinners for using power from the Abyss but he himself also is using some sussy power to keep his body in tact,hypocritical,aren't we?
    Also,also Capitano is SO noble,he protected Xilonen twice,so nice

  • @yurii_plisetsky
    @yurii_plisetsky Місяць тому +2

    i just want him to be playable man... 😭

  • @matrixfull
    @matrixfull Місяць тому +1

    I really think that Mauvika will get phoenix treatment. Died but being reborn. Capitano will have big role in this I believe. We'll see.

  • @undo9498
    @undo9498 29 днів тому +1

    Watch the end of the story be capitano & the six sinners +maybe the traveler vs the the god of death

  • @Ayvixx-p2q
    @Ayvixx-p2q Місяць тому

    you got some words out of my mind that i wanted to say but couldn't word it properly thanks

  • @earlturner-ji2zr
    @earlturner-ji2zr Місяць тому +1

    I hope we have a Capitano Dainsleif meet up this time🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @AJaxnn
    @AJaxnn Місяць тому +22

    Love my Cryo wielding Pyro Archon from a godless nation. Slaayyy Chief.

  • @soni1891
    @soni1891 Місяць тому +1

    i just want to point out that there could be a possibility of him being somehow connected to alberich, still.
    he can be the commander, given that he's immediately taken over the role of the tsaritsa's fatui as the captain, no less. i can't see him being a random npc or a simple knight when his prime can even rival that of an archon. he is surely part of that four.

  • @grandepica
    @grandepica Місяць тому +13

    i feel like capitano being anfortas has so many evidences and matches so perfectly that the few inconsistencies are irrelevant and have easy explanations, like-- if he isn't anfortas than who could he be? And why would they just make a new character when they already recently introduced a new Khaenri'ahn that have never been previously mentioned before (peruere)

    • @grandepica
      @grandepica Місяць тому +15

      also about him having two eyes my crack theory is that under the armor, Capitano's skin looks the same as Dainsleif's left arm, (with the dark blue veins and all) and what Mika saw wasn't actually his eyes but empty eye sockets, since he's rotting, his eyes could be decomposed, making it seem like he has glowing blue eyes.

  • @grims0694
    @grims0694 Місяць тому +1

    Okay, one thing that makes me think that your theory could work is that in the natlan trailer mavuika talks to capitano and say's "are you brave enough to compete?" Why would she say that to him if he isn't apart of natlan and can't take part in the tournament for pyro archon. I think this is hinting at capitano participating.

  • @joelkeene1278
    @joelkeene1278 Місяць тому

    The triumphant return of the Paimon impression in a roozevelt video let's goooooooooooo

  • @Necrochaosium
    @Necrochaosium Місяць тому +1

    If you're right and capitano is after ronova(and she's behind the curse), when he wins he'll find death himself if the curse is then broken. (which mean of course he wont be playable)
    My feeling is that the curse is actually a higher reality override than even the powers of the shades though.
    Given that the second who came was equally powered to the primordial one, it makes more sense that that entity is responsible(or one of the sinners when they each gained part of the power of the second who came but thats another cracked theory where they "ate" portions of the body of the slain second who came).
    The angel that was marrying the outsider, it also more possible now that that outsider WAS the third descender and whatever dark plan that was hatched both devolved the seelies and broke the descender apart. Where the goddess of flowers fits in here I dont know but she wasnt devolved in that event she's the only one who wasnt.

  • @icyice1902
    @icyice1902 Місяць тому

    Capitano gives me similar vibes to Skull Knight from Berserk and Artorias the Abysswalker from Dark Souls.

  • @finchXY
    @finchXY Місяць тому

    Capitano 7th hero in my mind, idc; this badass been fighting for Natlan for so long.

  • @ari_official3404
    @ari_official3404 Місяць тому +1

    To me I think the curse doesn’t actually denies death but just extends the stay of the soul/mind in a way that the consciousness doesn’t leave it essentially tethering it to an already dead corpse

  • @Martin144gamlng
    @Martin144gamlng Місяць тому

    You are the best roozevelt, i hope there will be no new pyro archon i love the look of this one

  • @sleepyqinfei
    @sleepyqinfei Місяць тому +1

    no joke when i read that he’s from khaenri’ah i had to stop myself from shrieking

  • @mizrahiomr
    @mizrahiomr Місяць тому

    BTW the last ruin golem which actually still functioned ended up in the west most part of Sumeru - really close by Natlan! May prove the theory!

  • @heatcliff9400
    @heatcliff9400 Місяць тому

    i think there was a mention of, if mavuika doesn't pay the price for using the power of a shade thousand will have to pay the price for her. maybe the captain's plan was to die all along afterall he's already rotting and stuff maybe he wants to become the price for using the power of ronova in exchange of giving the gnosis to the tsaritsa. that or i just didn't pay much attention in the dialogues in the archon quest. but still he took in ororon because he wanted to sacrifice himself to be useful to natlan which maybe because they have the same mindset.

  • @annieselv136
    @annieselv136 Місяць тому +7

    Capitano doing that would be so delicious i really now hoping for this outcome. Capitano dying instead of Mavuika makes so much sense and be the biggest f*ck you to the gods and I need it so bad hahaha

    • @finchXY
      @finchXY Місяць тому

      The #1 biggest middle finger being the #1 Harbinger; that would be poetic indeed.

  • @knightofwisdom8851
    @knightofwisdom8851 Місяць тому +3

    If Ronova did put the curse of immortality on Khaenriahns,couldn't she just lift up the curse?

  • @rakeshtripathu7224
    @rakeshtripathu7224 Місяць тому +1

    I really enjoyed this cracked theory. But i want to remind something. Ronova says “If those who wields her power fears death, the others should die only then the debt will be cleared”. So i think if capitano becomes the archon, Ronova may still technically can target mavuika snd others because even though captain doesn’t fear death he can’t die, so Ronova takes others death as price.
    MY SPECULATION
    Mavuika and Traveler goes to the night kingdom and wipes off abyss, Ronova takes life off mavuika, we get the gnosis.. and mavuika revived through ode of resurrection ( we won the final night warden war ). And give back the archonhood to mavuika

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 Місяць тому +2

      But there's the thing.
      She says if they can't conquer their fear of death.
      Capitano probably WANTS death at this point lets be honest.
      The fine print matters. It's not his fault if she's incapable of killing him, the lack of a death is not because he feared it, so it does not break the contract.

    • @rakeshtripathu7224
      @rakeshtripathu7224 Місяць тому

      @@jadecoolness101 yeah i mentioned that as well, i mean the other one could be a option too

  • @Falllll
    @Falllll Місяць тому

    This idea reminds me a lot of Dogma (1999) or of John Constantine selling his soul to several lords of hell to get out of heavenly/hellish punishment.

  • @Viper_In_A_Quartet
    @Viper_In_A_Quartet Місяць тому +3

    how do we reconcile the fact that capitano is from khaenri'ah AND that he's an ancient name user? because when we look at his fight against the pyro archon, it's clear that he has an ancient name glow.

    • @soni1891
      @soni1891 Місяць тому

      imagine if he participated again in the pilgrimage with an ancient name. annihilation.
      edit: omg i just realized, traveler has an ancient name right? there could be a special pilgrimage that will involve us and capitano (no joke, i can already see it happening) he is the region's fatui that we may revisit for boss fight. also, it could be a direct analogy to childe back in liyue, who foreshadowed that as a harbinger, he really looked up to capitano.
      with all that, i spectulate that it is either the traveller win and relinquish the throne to mavuika after her "death" (highly possible), or capitano will win and follow through his plans to knock off abyss and obtaining the pyro gnosis in the process (he will eventually die to meet with his ultimate foe).
      atp just make him and mavuika playable.

  • @kanna2227
    @kanna2227 Місяць тому

    That is one of the coolest theories I have ever seen, and I would love to see one of the harbingers becoming an archon as the coolest plot twist in the archon vs fatui conflict. However I don't think genshin has the creativity to do that, it'll probably just be the traveler that will become the archon, or we'll just use our descender power to reviver mavuika after she dies

  • @mruku301
    @mruku301 Місяць тому +7

    8:40 Capitano wants to revive Signora, stay with me now...

  • @outcastant
    @outcastant Місяць тому

    I’ve been waiting for this!

  • @cait8480
    @cait8480 Місяць тому

    i wonder if the reasons khaenriahn’s can’t die and everyone in kr at the time of the cataclysm turned into hillichurls is some kind of safeguard against abyssal corruption/“forbidden knowledge” to the leylines. if the leylines carry the memories and experiences of the dead across teyvat, as they do in the night kingdom, any incursion would be catastrophic. i wonder if that’s what the “priority” system of the rules is designed to circumvent.

  • @inesmorssli6603
    @inesmorssli6603 19 днів тому +1

    Yooo i ve rewatched your video soo many times and it just clicked that i knew this yaeggravate and followed her. Have you read one of her old theory of half seelie kaeya ? Istg it made lots of sense to me but that may not mean much coming from me 😂 which is why i m asking my favortite lore person for insight ? Have a great dayy

  • @hrujess
    @hrujess 23 дні тому

    This theory totally makes a lot of sense!

  • @alexanderericson8628
    @alexanderericson8628 Місяць тому +4

    Capitano doing that is in line with Focalors did to fool the heavenly principles and it's completely in line with the plot of the game, the bigger plot. I also want to ask have you completely abandoned the idea that he also is the bloodstained knight? Perhaps some of the knights in Mondstadt were recruited to Khaenri'ah something a certain bard might have information on. You also have a connection between Natlan and Mondstadt in form of Venessa just a thought perhaps Capitano was one of the slaves that was recruited his story would go back to basically the beginning if that is the case. In our history he would be the equivalent of Spartacus and I just think Genshin would greatly appeal to having a character like that in their game.
    You would have this connection with the region similar to Arlecchino and Fontaine, she has a different heritage but hold Fontaine in high regard, perhaps Capitano has a similar relationship with Natlan

    • @roozeveltfox
      @roozeveltfox  Місяць тому +3

      "Capitano doing that is in line with Focalors did to fool the heavenly principles and it's completely in line with the plot of the game, the bigger plot." oo, summarized perfectly!!!
      as for the Bloodstained Knight - I was never for/against the idea, I think it had/has a lot of good merit, but I always recall the BK seeing the injustice and siding with the abyss (or maybe rather, the abyss order). though that means I'd hope we'd get new BK lore in some form - maybe in a future Mond update?

    • @alexanderericson8628
      @alexanderericson8628 Місяць тому

      @@roozeveltfox Ah him siding with the Abyss doesn't sound like Capitano at all unless he regrets it was fooled like the sibling was because something was going down there that fooled a lot of people think they did the right thing

  • @effortlessfury
    @effortlessfury Місяць тому

    I took the meaning of the Fate and Death comparison differently. My interpretation of "Death is a Rule" was that it was something bendable or breakable depending on the circumstances (rules can be broken). I don't recall where but somewhere else it was said (by Capitano I think) that Victory and Defeat are rules, not outcomes, which suggests to me that Rules can be satisfied while still obtaining the desired outcome. The rule states you must die, but says nothing about when, where, or how (which is what Fate dictates).
    I would also like to note that I distrust Dain's interpretation of the curse. For all we know, the curse exists to prevent Abyssal Corruption from entering the ley lines. Remember that the cursed hilichurls in the Chasm were deteriorating into the same goop that Nahida calls Forbidden Knowledge in a Teyvat-safe form. It's entirely possible that this curse exists only to protect the ley lines and not as a punishment whatsoever.

  • @shafeekabdool3466
    @shafeekabdool3466 Місяць тому

    My none cope take is Capitano takes the death for Mavuika in some way and gets resurrected in his prime so he can fight his final foe who will be the first weekly boss for Natlan while Mavuika and the Traveler fights off the abyss!

  • @ArvindRajAgnosticAtheist
    @ArvindRajAgnosticAtheist Місяць тому

    Even if you think that your theory is far fetched, I think it makes sense, it's compelling and a cool way to approach the final act.