Can’t believe I’ve been watching you since I was 15. Now at 26 I hear of the helix and it bring back fond memories. Glad to see your love for two wheels never truly escaped you!
Wow, thanks for the tour of the ADV160. I enjoyed it and picked up some useful knowledge. I just got my ADV160, new, in mid January. As of yesterday, I put 420 miles on her. Not a lot, but I am in the Northeast too (PA), and Winter is still a thing here. This is my first ever motorcycle, and I am 72. I figured a scooter would be a good fit for me. I chose Honda basically for all the reasons you stated. I paid $5700 out the door, but I had tax to pay. Delivery was free, or so they say. I take my skills test in 2 weeks, and it has me worried. Never rode a manual bike, U turns are still difficult even with a lot of practice, etc. But it's an MSF class, and I know they are really good. I just got everything I'll need for the first oil change at 600 miles - even that will be a new experience for me. Gonna replace the stock drain plug with the magnetic one by Gold Plug. The only other mod I am considering at this point is a brake light flasher. The wiring of the flasher doesn't really worry me, it's getting access to the brake light wiring harness that could be a deal breaker. The bike is only 2 months old, and I don't want to do a grand disassembly just yet. Anyway, thank you for sharing your knowledge, and I'll be checking back for updates.
You know, when I saw the time of your video, I told myself just listen for initial 10 minutes, then I can do what I want to but somehow I got stuck and watched full video. Good job thanks
I have 18,000 miles on my 2022 adv 150. It's an awesome lil machine no matter where you want to go! I commute on it and have ridden it half way across the country and back with 0 issues. Fuel mileage is between 84-105mpg depending on how fast you're going and hills and I am 6'3 210lbs. I might sell mine to a buddy of mine and pick up a new 24, always more fun riding small bikes with a group of friends
I'm temporarily living in the Philippines doing volunteer work at hospitals. I have this unit. It performs excellent on the road and off. Knobby tires are also available in the Philippines.
Loved the review dude. I edit vehicle review videos for a living and we do numerous things and put hours and hours to keep the viewer's attention throughout 10 -15 mins. And here you are!
I stopped riding motorcycles over 11 years ago. But staying in Thailand i would be interested in one of these. I stopped riding due to all the close calls i had from oblivious drivers.
I called my local dealer and they wanted $6300 out the door! Of course I said no way. 3 weeks later they posted online a trade in with 850 miles for $3999. I payed $4485 otd and I feel good about that price
@@josephgeorgeejr7039$1600 is high. Destination,tags, and fees base on my experience are about $300-800 anything higher you should ask why and the break down of cost.
I purchased this same bike about a year ago. I love it so far and have racked up 4000+ miles. Thank you for showing me more about this bike than my dealer. I paid about the same.
Appreciate the long form review. US reviews are hard to find and most of them are riding reviews which don’t tell me much. I was curious about the screen and the settings etc which you went over in detail. Thank you.
I didnt know how to drive a motorcycle before. Im 26 and i just bought my first motorcycle adv160 so that i can practice driving. After 10 mins of trying it, i know how to drive with a passenger. Its beginner friendly and so smooth. I love my adv160 . The people always look at my bike. Even kids love it. I got the matte gun powder black 🕷🥰
I was kinda surprised to see a new scooter in the works. But I'm pretty happy for more videos on them. I had enjoyed the Helix videos back when, enough that I wanted one then and still want one now.
Between Sales tax 7% and other docking fees a new ADV now is $4499.00 plus destination charge of $600 plus dealer fees it comes to a total of around $5800 Taxe, Title, Destination and dealer fee. I just purchase a used 2023 PCX from dealer with 400 miles on it for $4157.00 out the door, Today. I will pick it up this weekend after the gulf storm passes.
Great review, I’ve been riding a 2022 Adv 150 for two years, wish someone did a review like this. My bike starts every time, a real blast, I can ride up to 60 mph for extended periods of time, no complaints from the bike. Thank you for the info!
Best review I found. I am buying mine next week here in Bangkok. 105,000 Baht, $2,866 usd. Includes rego.I had the adv150 in 2021. There seems to be a few differences between the U.S. model than here. Tool kit comes with it. A couple of other things, but will watch again after I get mine. They have 4 colours here, Black, Blue and like a Pearl grey and Red. It looks to me like your red is different. I dont like the red here, seems darker. Anyway, very thorough review. Thanks
As far as scratches underneath the bike, you might be able to get away with ordering some thick vinyl decal sheet that you can cut to fit and place underneath. Better with some high-vis reflective down the sides above it for instance in case you lay the bike down in the evening/night so people can see the reflection of your bike on the ground. ECU boot could have better protection from the elements, yeah. but if you're paranoid about it, you can go to town with hot-glue on the connector body itself where the cables go in, and around it... will make it harder to get it apart in the future, but it'll help keep it better protected from moisture ingress. Ideally silicone would be better as hot glue will inevitably melt in too hot of heat, but once again, an order of magnitude higher in removal later, and that's not even taking account of any warranty issues that might arise. as far as the joystick, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a third party adhesive-edge condom boot for it in the future.
I just thought you should know that you have a fan just under all that insallation. Even without the fan, you are inhaling very fine sharp edged very fine insallation dust. Turn on the fan and it is much worse. You might want to put up some dry wall and cover it all. regarding your video, wow, what an excellent video! very comprehesive and helpful. I wish more peeps did yt vids like you, thanks!
…The insulation between my floor joists? Yeah, no shit - I PUT IT THERE!! It is not supposed to be covered, as it is a basement ceiling - needs to breathe, and it needs to remain accessible.
Concerning tool kit, I don't leave the house without air compressor and tire plug kit. I have yet to use a tool kit but used tire plug over dozen time, usually the rear tire catches a nail.
Great video! I also used to have a Helix, and just got my ADV 160 about a week ago 😁. Looking forward to more of your content on these new to the USA scoots!
That's why they will not be popular in the USA... 😞 for those prices you can actually get a real motorcycle that's 500cc, I do think Americans would Ride Scooters more often but for that price I just don't see it happening unless they cut that price in half then yes I can see the scooter culture taking off
I never thought I would buy a scooter but I saw these and decided I liked it so at 53 I bought one last week. I can't ride it yet because I had knee surgery a couple of months ago and I am still recovering but I'm hoping it will be a little Cadillac
I really enjoyed your tour. I am taking delivery tomorrow of a 2025. I really wanted the Pearl blue color, but it seems that there are still supply chain issues looming from covid and they can be hard to find locally. I also paid about $5600 delivered to my house. A good chunk of that is the $600 destination fee.
after my Goldwing got hit, it's taking me 6-1/2 years now, that I'm looking at getting another bike. (long recovery) now, I'm looking at the BMW GS 850 as my last bike ( 61) years young. You, no when you can see, the writing on the wall. Well.................
Here in the Philippines you can get them new for 2950 USD. But besides the price (and the rear discbrake Non-abs) buying here has many downsides like not being allowed to testdrive. Yes, no testdrive. And servicing and guarantees will depend a lot on the mood of the dealer. And don't get me started on the paperwork haha. Buy it, drive it home, then park it, then wait 1 to 3 months for your paperwork before you're allwed to drive it again 😢 Im getting one on monday and im praying all gods it will only be 1 month haha
I have a 2024 model in Thailand, don't understand why they have fitted such bad rear brakes on the US model, mine has disc brakes in the rear. Mine is a Kitaco model, it has a different exhaust system, it makes a good sound. I have also changed the centrifugal weights, so now it accelerates much better. Nice bike to ride on busy roads as it is small and handy and runs very well.
The rear drums are perrfect for the US - inexperienced riders (the target market) would lock up the rear discs and end up sliding sideways down the road
Definitely a styling exercise. Do you see how low that engine cases to the ground? i’d love to take it on a fire trail that has no rocks. my choice would be the The Honda XRL 150. A real Third World bike at a third world price
What's the dividing line between a motorscooter and a motorcycle? I thought a motorscooter always had a flat floorboard, but this one doesn't. I guess you could call it a crossover!
Good question; a scooter will have a few key differences from a motorcycle, and they are: 1) Engine, transmission, and swingarm will be built as one complete assembly with the rear wheel bolted directly to the final drive shaft; the entire engine then becomes unsprung weight, which is a bit of a shortfall, but the compromise is a VERY low center of gravity. 2) Automatic transmission (typically - as some scooters are fitted with a manual transmission, such as Vespas and Lambrettas, but for the most part they will be equipped with a belt driven CVT). 3) Step-thru chassis - OR - "Underbone" style frame. Fuel tanks are always placed under the floor, or under the seat (some are behind the seat as well), but NEVER mounted to a top-tube like a motorcycle. 4) Front and rear hand brakes (with the exception of older machines, such as 1980s Honda Helixes and Elites). These are just general characteristics, but the one common feature on ALL scooters is the integrated driveline packaging. As far as insurance, and state regs - it's all based on engine size and theoretical top speed. In NH, 50cc and above with a top speed exceeding 25 mph? It's a motorcycle. 150cc or above? Freeway legal. 49cc and below? They call that a "motor driven cycle:" or "MOPED."
A little over 3000, like 3056 depending on the USD to Philippines Peso. Not throwing that out to say look at me, but just to show how much more profit Honda makes in the USA market. One has to wonder what the cost to the dealer is because Honda still has to be making a profit here in the PH or else they would not sell them. My history is that I had a new 150 in 2020 or 2021 before I retired and left the US. Loved the ADV 150, and also the 160 really enjoy having both disc brakes on the Asian model.
Very good review. Thank you for tanking the time. Were you able to determine if there was a missing front under panel? It certainly looks like there are some mounting bosses for something there. Was wondering if it was to deflect water downward? You now have a VERY capable scooter and Cannonball run grade too. 😀
Honda does not hate or love the US, we don't get the pcx or the adv 160 in Europe. We have the 350 and the 750.. Also we don't have the Trail 125, but have all the rest of the that platform. I have great interest in the 160, the 350 is too heavy for my teste and my riding style/places.
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Great Job on the review thank you. Do you have any updates on the ADV. seriously thinking about buying. Thank you again, very informative , well done
It's an absolute blast to ride, as far as scooters go - the water pump on mine is defective and began leaking almost immediately, so I have it scheduled to be replaced under warranty - other than that, awesome machine!
For the one hundredth time......Please reupload your helix series.... I own an 05. Best scooter ever... So glad you're getting back in the saddle.... you will be fine.
@@bbishoppcm Ahhh... that's a shame, you had some real gold in them there videos. And you were once active on ADVRIDER. Hope to see you talk about this in battle scooters soon.. Great bike, and I am super jealous. I have been looking for a silverwing, but found a goldwing that I got 6 mos ago. I would trade it for a silverwing for sure.
i had a 2009 silverwing turbo. gps had me at 150 before i chickened out. i sold it. and it took me 7 years to find a 2012 with only 109 miles on it. and the computer shuts it down at 117.4 mph. it will never be sold. NEVER. in 2022 i bought a 2021 honda trail 125 and i loved that bike. but it was to slow for highway use and not enough power to really do off roading. and yesterday i went to a local dealer to look at some new tires for the trail and came home with a 2025 ADV. and just the 13 mile trip home i already love it. going to go ride it in about a hour. and dont plan on coming home until i need to buy gas.
and for the mirrors i always put mirror extenders on them because all i can see is my shoulders. and thanks for the video yes i intend on looking at the book but i'm old and would rather look at videos. LOL
I hate how the turn signals are sticking out and not incorporated into the housing like the PCX. The ADV is also slower, being it's heavier but has the same exact motor as the PCX. There's really no justifiable reason to choose an ADV over a PCX, in my opinion. I own a 2022 PCX, upgraded with aftermarket exhaust system and shocks , pushing 75mph constantly.
Well done Thank You 👍Detailed breakdown of the bike which I have on my list to buy when I get to the Philippines this July. Looking forward to watching more videos as you breaking the in bike.
I just stumbled upon your channel and found your honest detailed review refreshing. I am planning to purchase the 150 or 160. Are there great advantages to go 160? I do see the 160 has 4 valve vs the 2 valve on the 150. Is the 4 an advantage? Thanks from a new subscriber.
Id definitely use a quality high amp charging cord that would support Qc.3.0 charging, not those cheap gas stations 5$ cords are crap and really limits you charging capacity even if its not a QC 3.0 output but I think adv 160 outlet is QC 3 output!?
Oh I thought u said you got at gas station, must been another channel, but my comment was intended to help the community, I would never criticize anyone choice of anything at all, I simply want folks to know different cords carry different amps and electric current, I can tell you know technology, I wasn't making that comment relative to you or any one person, only folks who might not know better, I truly do try to help folks and I apologize if it seemed inconsiderate to you personally, certainly wasn't my intention.
Awesome review! I'm looking at upgrading from a 125 mio soul to this for when I'm in the Philippines. I'm about 260 pounds then my girl on the back our 125 struggles a bit . But we did a 16 hour round trip with it and did awesome. So this be big upgrade for us! Got any updates on it driving it around and mod you done to it?
I'm surprised the make the scooters with such low miles for oil changes, when their bigger bikes do like 8000+ miles. Those little metal sleeves it came with text says something about license plate mounting sleeves... some type of spacer for mounting the plate
It takes some understanding of just how much stress a small displacement engine has on oil - high RPMs, small sump size, no filter. The only way to increase the oil lifespan is to increase the oil capacity - which would require either an external oil reservoir or larger block/larger sump AND add a filter, this increases cost, weight, and complexity. Oil is cheap - just change it every 2,000 miles and the engine will reward you with longer life, less wear, less oil consumption.
If changing oil every few thousand miles is too stressful, you can always buy one of those Chinese electric bikes - but those have a propensity to spontaneously set apartment buildings on fire due to cheap lithium batteries.
@@bbishoppcm I'm sure they could figure something out, I'm not a mechanic... but electric doesn't have the range. If I had to change my bikes oil every 2000, that's 6 or 7 oil changes a year at least because I love to ride. I had a PCX 150 for 3 years (my first bike, I loved it) and had the Honda dealer do all maintenance, but knowing nothing I just did how the manual listed at every 4000 miles. One thing I loved when I got my Rebel 1100, its every 8000 miles... but really been wanting to get another scooter again after not having a PCX 150 a couple years now. If I get a big collection going then I can just get low enough miles on each to do yearly maintenance 🙂
Well, I have a background in engine repair and have a good understanding of how they work - the only way to improve oil life is through a larger volume of oil, and/or friction reduction - these engines already use ball bearings to support the crank, and employ a low-friction coating on the pistons. Bigger bikes have larger engines with lower engine speed, and many have external oil tanks.
Sorry as I have to disagree with you for life of fuel injection system dependability. I bought my 2022 Honda ADV 150 new and with about 4,000 miles my Fuel Pump died. Luckily my extended Warranty took care of the ridiculous $1,100 bill.👍 I checked on U-Tube and I’m one of many having same problem occurring.🤔
Even the 1986 Honda Helix had a fuel pump… and they almost never failed. I just looked it up and the pump itself costs about $47 and looks relatively easy to access - I’ll keep an eye out for issues. I wonder who the OEM is for that pump… the injection system itself is Kei-Hin, and similar to other Honda models.
awesome video. One question, I’m debating between a Grom and a Adv 160 for commuting and backroad adventures. Do you know how reliable CVTs are? Are they heavier and more complex than manual?
You're looking at two completely different bikes; the GROM is more of a compact trail bike, not large enough or comfortable enough for long trips - the GROM is also unique in that it features the same 125CC engine as the Super Cub/Trail 125, but with a fully manual transmission (the SuperCub and Trail have a semi-automatic manual). The ADV is more of a "touring scooter," designed for longer trips - more comfortable, less stressed drivetrain, plenty of onboard storage, larger fuel tank, and some (VERY LIGHT) off-road capabilities. As for the CVT; Scooter CVTs should never be confused with automotive CVTs; Honda perfected their V-Matic CVTs in the 1980s, and they haven't changed much since. These use a very basic centrifugal dry-clutch for engagement, and a centrifugally-controlled drive pulley linked to a spring-loaded driven pulley via a (usually Bando or Gates) rubber drive belt; these transmissions DO require routine maintenance about every 14,000 miles - replace the belt, belt case air filter, drive pulley roller weights and seals, and that's about it - it's a simple procedure and doesn't cost much. Eventually, the driven pulley and clutch will require a rebuild (probably around 50,000 miles or so) but the beauty part is, these are all wearable items designed to be replaced or rebuilt easily, with minimal time and basic tools - AND no adjustments needed in the interim. On a GROM/CUB/TRAIL you'll be cracking the engine case open to replace clutch parts, in addition to constantly adjusting and lubing the chain - I'll take the CVT, thank you.
@@bbishoppcm Thanks for the helpful reply! I’ve driven old 110c motorcycles and scooters in asia but have never owned one or driven one in the usa. I’m moving back to the states, and being 5’6, 120lbs - I’m looking for something for non-highway commuting to the grocery store / beach / work and for little backroad journeys for fun. Not into stunts , highways or speed - so just a newbie trying to figure out what to get in a 5k budget for the states. I like light bikes under 300lbs and between 100-200cc, so the Honda Grom and Honda Adv 160 both look interesting to me in different ways. The Grom I get the control and simplicity of manual, ergonomics of a motorcycle, but have to attach small panniers and wear a backpack for storage. The 160 I get a more casual bike with CVT, which I was skeptical about till reading your reply, but obviously the big benefit of elegant, built in storage and modern tech. The size and control of the Grom is appealing (on paper), but I’m an outlier who likes lighter, smaller and more nimble bikes. Thanks for the info, I’m leaning towards the ADV now..
@@bbishoppcm I don’t really get the supercub and surprised you considered it. The seat is higher (30.7”) than the Grom (I’m 5’6”, 120lbs with about a 30” inseam), the gas tank is less than a gallon, it can only carry one person, luggage mods seem much more limited, the weight is slightly more than a grom, and it has a 4 spd clutchless transmission (which I don’t get the appeal of) instead a 5 spd full transmission on the Grom. The Grom also goes to a top speed of up to 70mph after the 2022 5spd upgrade, giving it a lot more versatility in my eyes. Btw, I have another question about CVTs. How does it handle going up and down hills in the mountains? I imagine the brakes will be destroyed without the ability to use the engine to control speed.
Great review. I just bought a red ADV 160 for when I retire to Philippines next month. They are $3,000 USD there. They are perfect for the trash roads in the primitive province area my house in Bohol is at. I'm going to have the red on mine clear coated to make it easier to wash, and so it won't fade in the sun. Here's another English ADV 160 review that is way different than yours. ua-cam.com/video/O4NgaDr8rpY/v-deo.html Oh, and the 2024 ADV in Philippines raised the under seat storage from 28 liters to 30 liters.
Yeah, you really shouldn’t push a new engine like that - it will never reach its top speed until it’s actually broken in. I don’t plan on pushing mine until it’s got a few hundred miles on it. Let the rings seat properly as the top-end loosens up.
Can’t believe I’ve been watching you since I was 15. Now at 26 I hear of the helix and it bring back fond memories. Glad to see your love for two wheels never truly escaped you!
Wow, thanks for the tour of the ADV160. I enjoyed it and picked up some useful knowledge. I just got my ADV160, new, in mid January. As of yesterday, I put 420 miles on her. Not a lot, but I am in the Northeast too (PA), and Winter is still a thing here. This is my first ever motorcycle, and I am 72. I figured a scooter would be a good fit for me. I chose Honda basically for all the reasons you stated. I paid $5700 out the door, but I had tax to pay. Delivery was free, or so they say.
I take my skills test in 2 weeks, and it has me worried. Never rode a manual bike, U turns are still difficult even with a lot of practice, etc. But it's an MSF class, and I know they are really good.
I just got everything I'll need for the first oil change at 600 miles - even that will be a new experience for me. Gonna replace the stock drain plug with the magnetic one by Gold Plug. The only other mod I am considering at this point is a brake light flasher. The wiring of the flasher doesn't really worry me, it's getting access to the brake light wiring harness that could be a deal breaker. The bike is only 2 months old, and I don't want to do a grand disassembly just yet.
Anyway, thank you for sharing your knowledge, and I'll be checking back for updates.
Glad to see you get back to bikes I have been watching since before the Honda helix days and loved those vids. Look forward to future bike content.
You know, when I saw the time of your video, I told myself just listen for initial 10 minutes, then I can do what I want to but somehow I got stuck and watched full video.
Good job thanks
I have 18,000 miles on my 2022 adv 150. It's an awesome lil machine no matter where you want to go! I commute on it and have ridden it half way across the country and back with 0 issues. Fuel mileage is between 84-105mpg depending on how fast you're going and hills and I am 6'3 210lbs. I might sell mine to a buddy of mine and pick up a new 24, always more fun riding small bikes with a group of friends
I just bought a 2024 ADV 160 and stumbled across your channel. I’m retired over here in the Philippines. I subscribed to you.
I'm temporarily living in the Philippines doing volunteer work at hospitals. I have this unit. It performs excellent on the road and off. Knobby tires are also available in the Philippines.
Loved the review dude. I edit vehicle review videos for a living and we do numerous things and put hours and hours to keep the viewer's attention throughout 10 -15 mins. And here you are!
I stopped riding motorcycles over 11 years ago. But staying in Thailand i would be interested in one of these. I stopped riding due to all the close calls i had from oblivious drivers.
I called my local dealer and they wanted $6300 out the door! Of course I said no way. 3 weeks later they posted online a trade in with 850 miles for $3999. I payed $4485 otd and I feel good about that price
Sounds like you got a great deal! Were they both ADV160s?
@@bbishoppcm Yes one brand new the other 850 miles.
1600$ for dealer fees prep freight isn't bad at all relative to most places
@@josephgeorgeejr7039$1600 is high. Destination,tags, and fees base on my experience are about $300-800 anything higher you should ask why and the break down of cost.
$6300 is over priced.
I purchased this same bike about a year ago. I love it so far and have racked up 4000+ miles. Thank you for
showing me more about this bike than my dealer. I paid about the same.
Appreciate the long form review. US reviews are hard to find and most of them are riding reviews which don’t tell me much. I was curious about the screen and the settings etc which you went over in detail. Thank you.
I didnt know how to drive a motorcycle before. Im 26 and i just bought my first motorcycle adv160 so that i can practice driving. After 10 mins of trying it, i know how to drive with a passenger. Its beginner friendly and so smooth. I love my adv160 . The people always look at my bike. Even kids love it. I got the matte gun powder black 🕷🥰
I was kinda surprised to see a new scooter in the works. But I'm pretty happy for more videos on them. I had enjoyed the Helix videos back when, enough that I wanted one then and still want one now.
Between Sales tax 7% and other docking fees a new ADV now is $4499.00 plus destination charge of $600 plus dealer fees it comes to a total of around $5800 Taxe, Title, Destination and dealer fee.
I just purchase a used 2023 PCX from dealer with 400 miles on it for $4157.00 out the door, Today. I will pick it up this weekend after the gulf storm passes.
Great review, I’ve been riding a 2022 Adv 150 for two years, wish someone did a review like this. My bike starts every time, a real blast, I can ride up to 60 mph for extended periods of time, no complaints from the bike. Thank you for the info!
Best review I found. I am buying mine next week here in Bangkok. 105,000 Baht, $2,866 usd. Includes rego.I had the adv150 in 2021. There seems to be a few differences between the U.S. model than here. Tool kit comes with it. A couple of other things, but will watch again after I get mine. They have 4 colours here, Black, Blue and like a Pearl grey and Red. It looks to me like your red is different. I dont like the red here, seems darker. Anyway, very thorough review. Thanks
I think if those prices where the same in the US more people would drive them.
I paid 5400 for mine and had it delivered for 20 bucks. I live in michigan. It's a great bike.
As far as scratches underneath the bike, you might be able to get away with ordering some thick vinyl decal sheet that you can cut to fit and place underneath. Better with some high-vis reflective down the sides above it for instance in case you lay the bike down in the evening/night so people can see the reflection of your bike on the ground.
ECU boot could have better protection from the elements, yeah. but if you're paranoid about it, you can go to town with hot-glue on the connector body itself where the cables go in, and around it... will make it harder to get it apart in the future, but it'll help keep it better protected from moisture ingress. Ideally silicone would be better as hot glue will inevitably melt in too hot of heat, but once again, an order of magnitude higher in removal later, and that's not even taking account of any warranty issues that might arise.
as far as the joystick, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a third party adhesive-edge condom boot for it in the future.
It's very different here in the Philippines we have both disc breaks on front and rear wheel.
Thanks for the good review. I bought mine on April 24th. Love it. It's a lot of fun.
I just thought you should know that you have a fan just under all that insallation. Even without the fan, you are inhaling very fine sharp edged very fine insallation dust. Turn on the fan and it is much worse. You might want to put up some dry wall and cover it all. regarding your video, wow, what an excellent video! very comprehesive and helpful. I wish more peeps did yt vids like you, thanks!
…what the hell are you talking about??
…The insulation between my floor joists? Yeah, no shit - I PUT IT THERE!! It is not supposed to be covered, as it is a basement ceiling - needs to breathe, and it needs to remain accessible.
Concerning tool kit, I don't leave the house without air compressor and tire plug kit. I have yet to use a tool kit but used tire plug over dozen time, usually the rear tire catches a nail.
Great video! I also used to have a Helix, and just got my ADV 160 about a week ago 😁. Looking forward to more of your content on these new to the USA scoots!
$5600 wow that's 100% more than they sell for here in Thailand
That's why they will not be popular in the USA... 😞 for those prices you can actually get a real motorcycle that's 500cc, I do think Americans would Ride Scooters more often but for that price I just don't see it happening unless they cut that price in half then yes I can see the scooter culture taking off
I swear Honda is the master of low friction small engines
That's ridiculous that the tool kit doesn't come with the unit. That same replacement toolkit is 7 dollars U.S. equivalent in the Philippines.
ThIs is the 1st time I have watched you!
Thank's!....That was a brilliant review!🙂
I never thought I would buy a scooter but I saw these and decided I liked it so at 53 I bought one last week. I can't ride it yet because I had knee surgery a couple of months ago and I am still recovering but I'm hoping it will be a little Cadillac
I really enjoyed your tour. I am taking delivery tomorrow of a 2025. I really wanted the Pearl blue color, but it seems that there are still supply chain issues looming from covid and they can be hard to find locally. I also paid about $5600 delivered to my house. A good chunk of that is the $600 destination fee.
Check for coolant leaks!! The fourth pump is now leaking
@@bbishoppcm Oh boy. That's not a good sign. I will keep an eye out and see if the same issue happens.
after my Goldwing got hit, it's taking me 6-1/2 years now, that I'm looking at getting another bike. (long recovery) now, I'm looking at the BMW GS 850 as my last bike ( 61) years young. You, no when you can see, the writing on the wall. Well.................
also buy this product , this is a must : ShockStrap Ratchet Strap Tie-Down 1.5" x7' Shock Absorbing Heavy Duty Tie-Down
Here in the Philippines you can get them new for 2950 USD. But besides the price (and the rear discbrake Non-abs) buying here has many downsides like not being allowed to testdrive. Yes, no testdrive. And servicing and guarantees will depend a lot on the mood of the dealer. And don't get me started on the paperwork haha. Buy it, drive it home, then park it, then wait 1 to 3 months for your paperwork before you're allwed to drive it again 😢
Im getting one on monday and im praying all gods it will only be 1 month haha
I have a 2024 model in Thailand, don't understand why they have fitted such bad rear brakes on the US model, mine has disc brakes in the rear. Mine is a Kitaco model, it has a different exhaust system, it makes a good sound. I have also changed the centrifugal weights, so now it accelerates much better. Nice bike to ride on busy roads as it is small and handy and runs very well.
The rear drums are perrfect for the US - inexperienced riders (the target market) would lock up the rear discs and end up sliding sideways down the road
Definitely a styling exercise. Do you see how low that engine cases to the ground? i’d love to take it on a fire trail that has no rocks. my choice would be the The Honda XRL 150. A real Third World bike at a third world price
Disappointed that the rear brake is a drum when US prices are higher than most other countries
"My curiosity is stronger than my sensibility" XD so well said. this is such a good description of me
What's the dividing line between a motorscooter and a motorcycle? I thought a motorscooter always had a flat floorboard, but this one doesn't. I guess you could call it a crossover!
Good question; a scooter will have a few key differences from a motorcycle, and they are: 1) Engine, transmission, and swingarm will be built as one complete assembly with the rear wheel bolted directly to the final drive shaft; the entire engine then becomes unsprung weight, which is a bit of a shortfall, but the compromise is a VERY low center of gravity. 2) Automatic transmission (typically - as some scooters are fitted with a manual transmission, such as Vespas and Lambrettas, but for the most part they will be equipped with a belt driven CVT). 3) Step-thru chassis - OR - "Underbone" style frame. Fuel tanks are always placed under the floor, or under the seat (some are behind the seat as well), but NEVER mounted to a top-tube like a motorcycle. 4) Front and rear hand brakes (with the exception of older machines, such as 1980s Honda Helixes and Elites). These are just general characteristics, but the one common feature on ALL scooters is the integrated driveline packaging. As far as insurance, and state regs - it's all based on engine size and theoretical top speed. In NH, 50cc and above with a top speed exceeding 25 mph? It's a motorcycle. 150cc or above? Freeway legal. 49cc and below? They call that a "motor driven cycle:" or "MOPED."
A little over 3000, like 3056 depending on the USD to Philippines Peso. Not throwing that out to say look at me, but just to show how much more profit Honda makes in the USA market. One has to wonder what the cost to the dealer is because Honda still has to be making a profit here in the PH or else they would not sell them. My history is that I had a new 150 in 2020 or 2021 before I retired and left the US. Loved the ADV 150, and also the 160 really enjoy having both disc brakes on the Asian model.
Honda doesn’t sell a lot of scooters in the US, so the economies of scale don’t translate well here.
Very good review. Thank you for tanking the time. Were you able to determine if there was a missing front under panel? It certainly looks like there are some mounting bosses for something there. Was wondering if it was to deflect water downward? You now have a VERY capable scooter and Cannonball run grade too. 😀
I thought that the bar in the tank was to prevent someone from siphoning your fuel out. In this case, it’s under a lockable fuel door, though.
No, the bar is to prevent you from inserting the nozzle too far. It’s a basic design that Honda has used for over 40 years
Honda does not hate or love the US, we don't get the pcx or the adv 160 in Europe. We have the 350 and the 750.. Also we don't have the Trail 125, but have all the rest of the that platform. I have great interest in the 160, the 350 is too heavy for my teste and my riding style/places.
Great Job on the review thank you. Do you have any updates on the ADV. seriously thinking about buying. Thank you again, very informative , well done
It's an absolute blast to ride, as far as scooters go - the water pump on mine is defective and began leaking almost immediately, so I have it scheduled to be replaced under warranty - other than that, awesome machine!
I'm moving to the Philippines. In Cebu, I can get a 160 for $2,900. Shows how much we are robbed in the US. In Thailand, you can get one for $3,200.
I own a 2022 honda adv150 with 2,000 miles on it
For the one hundredth time......Please reupload your helix series.... I own an 05. Best scooter ever... So glad you're getting back in the saddle.... you will be fine.
That would be impossible as the footage is long gone. If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.
@@bbishoppcm Ahhh... that's a shame, you had some real gold in them there videos. And you were once active on ADVRIDER. Hope to see you talk about this in battle scooters soon.. Great bike, and I am super jealous. I have been looking for a silverwing, but found a goldwing that I got 6 mos ago. I would trade it for a silverwing for sure.
i had a 2009 silverwing turbo. gps had me at 150 before i chickened out. i sold it. and it took me 7 years to find a 2012 with only 109 miles on it. and the computer shuts it down at 117.4 mph. it will never be sold. NEVER. in 2022 i bought a 2021 honda trail 125 and i loved that bike. but it was to slow for highway use and not enough power to really do off roading. and yesterday i went to a local dealer to look at some new tires for the trail and came home with a 2025 ADV. and just the 13 mile trip home i already love it. going to go ride it in about a hour. and dont plan on coming home until i need to buy gas.
and for the mirrors i always put mirror extenders on them because all i can see is my shoulders. and thanks for the video yes i intend on looking at the book but i'm old and would rather look at videos. LOL
I cannot use bar ends - it won't fit in my basement door if it had them.
Amen to long-form videos!!!
Man, has it really been 8 years?
I hate how the turn signals are sticking out and not incorporated into the housing like the PCX. The ADV is also slower, being it's heavier but has the same exact motor as the PCX. There's really no justifiable reason to choose an ADV over a PCX, in my opinion. I own a 2022 PCX, upgraded with aftermarket exhaust system and shocks , pushing 75mph constantly.
I prefer the looks of the ADV to be honest, and for only a couple hundred bucks, you get upgraded suspension, and a glovebox that the PCX lacks.
I suppose it's personal preference, for me i like the looks and speed of the PCX better. Safe riding, brother!@bbishoppcm
Well done Thank You 👍Detailed breakdown of the bike which I have on my list to buy when I get to the Philippines this July. Looking forward to watching more videos as you breaking the in bike.
Do you think the collars are for the license plate holder?
I just stumbled upon your channel and found your honest detailed review refreshing.
I am planning to purchase the 150 or 160. Are there great advantages to go 160? I do see the 160 has 4 valve vs the 2 valve on the 150. Is the 4 an advantage? Thanks from a new subscriber.
I believe the four valve 160 has more low-end torque and a higher top-end, but it's not a drastic difference. I'd spring for the 160 if possible.
how do you compare the adv160 to the Vespa 150?
I just looked at one I really want the Smoky Pearl silver but I don't see any for sale in the United States 😭
Id definitely use a quality high amp charging cord that would support Qc.3.0 charging, not those cheap gas stations 5$ cords are crap and really limits you charging capacity even if its not a QC 3.0 output but I think adv 160 outlet is QC 3 output!?
That cord cost me $30, my friend. I don’t care about high speed charging - it works well for its intended purpose.
Oh I thought u said you got at gas station, must been another channel, but my comment was intended to help the community, I would never criticize anyone choice of anything at all, I simply want folks to know different cords carry different amps and electric current, I can tell you know technology, I wasn't making that comment relative to you or any one person, only folks who might not know better, I truly do try to help folks and I apologize if it seemed inconsiderate to you personally, certainly wasn't my intention.
cut the muffler pipe with a hacksaw n join it with a clamp , n if U need 2 remove the wheel U dont need 2 remove the whole exhaust !
also buy a tow HAUL-MASTER 400 lb. Receiver-Mount Aluminum Motorcycle Carrier. from harbor freight
I pick up mine tomorrow evening.
How much insurance cost adv160
No Fake shocks real a great scooter for a good Preis Here in Thailand 😊!
Awesome review! I'm looking at upgrading from a 125 mio soul to this for when I'm in the Philippines. I'm about 260 pounds then my girl on the back our 125 struggles a bit . But we did a 16 hour round trip with it and did awesome. So this be big upgrade for us!
Got any updates on it driving it around and mod you done to it?
Finally got it registered, but no - still too cold up here to ride.
I'm surprised the make the scooters with such low miles for oil changes, when their bigger bikes do like 8000+ miles.
Those little metal sleeves it came with text says something about license plate mounting sleeves... some type of spacer for mounting the plate
It takes some understanding of just how much stress a small displacement engine has on oil - high RPMs, small sump size, no filter. The only way to increase the oil lifespan is to increase the oil capacity - which would require either an external oil reservoir or larger block/larger sump AND add a filter, this increases cost, weight, and complexity. Oil is cheap - just change it every 2,000 miles and the engine will reward you with longer life, less wear, less oil consumption.
If changing oil every few thousand miles is too stressful, you can always buy one of those Chinese electric bikes - but those have a propensity to spontaneously set apartment buildings on fire due to cheap lithium batteries.
@@bbishoppcm I'm sure they could figure something out, I'm not a mechanic... but electric doesn't have the range. If I had to change my bikes oil every 2000, that's 6 or 7 oil changes a year at least because I love to ride. I had a PCX 150 for 3 years (my first bike, I loved it) and had the Honda dealer do all maintenance, but knowing nothing I just did how the manual listed at every 4000 miles. One thing I loved when I got my Rebel 1100, its every 8000 miles... but really been wanting to get another scooter again after not having a PCX 150 a couple years now. If I get a big collection going then I can just get low enough miles on each to do yearly maintenance 🙂
Well, I have a background in engine repair and have a good understanding of how they work - the only way to improve oil life is through a larger volume of oil, and/or friction reduction - these engines already use ball bearings to support the crank, and employ a low-friction coating on the pistons. Bigger bikes have larger engines with lower engine speed, and many have external oil tanks.
Sorry as I have to disagree with you for life of fuel injection system dependability. I bought my 2022 Honda ADV 150 new and with about 4,000 miles my Fuel Pump died. Luckily my extended Warranty took care of the ridiculous $1,100 bill.👍 I checked on U-Tube and I’m one of many having same problem occurring.🤔
Even the 1986 Honda Helix had a fuel pump… and they almost never failed. I just looked it up and the pump itself costs about $47 and looks relatively easy to access - I’ll keep an eye out for issues. I wonder who the OEM is for that pump… the injection system itself is Kei-Hin, and similar to other Honda models.
I’m giving peak Honda and fey Meyers Honda an excellent service rating!😅
wow that's a really sexy scooter
hi, did u consider suzuki burgman 400?
awesome video. One question, I’m debating between a Grom and a Adv 160 for commuting and backroad adventures. Do you know how reliable CVTs are? Are they heavier and more complex than manual?
You're looking at two completely different bikes; the GROM is more of a compact trail bike, not large enough or comfortable enough for long trips - the GROM is also unique in that it features the same 125CC engine as the Super Cub/Trail 125, but with a fully manual transmission (the SuperCub and Trail have a semi-automatic manual). The ADV is more of a "touring scooter," designed for longer trips - more comfortable, less stressed drivetrain, plenty of onboard storage, larger fuel tank, and some (VERY LIGHT) off-road capabilities. As for the CVT; Scooter CVTs should never be confused with automotive CVTs; Honda perfected their V-Matic CVTs in the 1980s, and they haven't changed much since. These use a very basic centrifugal dry-clutch for engagement, and a centrifugally-controlled drive pulley linked to a spring-loaded driven pulley via a (usually Bando or Gates) rubber drive belt; these transmissions DO require routine maintenance about every 14,000 miles - replace the belt, belt case air filter, drive pulley roller weights and seals, and that's about it - it's a simple procedure and doesn't cost much. Eventually, the driven pulley and clutch will require a rebuild (probably around 50,000 miles or so) but the beauty part is, these are all wearable items designed to be replaced or rebuilt easily, with minimal time and basic tools - AND no adjustments needed in the interim. On a GROM/CUB/TRAIL you'll be cracking the engine case open to replace clutch parts, in addition to constantly adjusting and lubing the chain - I'll take the CVT, thank you.
@@bbishoppcm Thanks for the helpful reply! I’ve driven old 110c motorcycles and scooters in asia but have never owned one or driven one in the usa. I’m moving back to the states, and being 5’6, 120lbs - I’m looking for something for non-highway commuting to the grocery store / beach / work and for little backroad journeys for fun. Not into stunts , highways or speed - so just a newbie trying to figure out what to get in a 5k budget for the states. I like light bikes under 300lbs and between 100-200cc, so the Honda Grom and Honda Adv 160 both look interesting to me in different ways. The Grom I get the control and simplicity of manual, ergonomics of a motorcycle, but have to attach small panniers and wear a backpack for storage. The 160 I get a more casual bike with CVT, which I was skeptical about till reading your reply, but obviously the big benefit of elegant, built in storage and modern tech. The size and control of the Grom is appealing (on paper), but I’m an outlier who likes lighter, smaller and more nimble bikes. Thanks for the info, I’m leaning towards the ADV now..
I’d also give the SuperCub a hard look - I was about to buy one, but I felt the ADV would be a better option on longer journeys.
@@bbishoppcm I don’t really get the supercub and surprised you considered it. The seat is higher (30.7”) than the Grom (I’m 5’6”, 120lbs with about a 30” inseam), the gas tank is less than a gallon, it can only carry one person, luggage mods seem much more limited, the weight is slightly more than a grom, and it has a 4 spd clutchless transmission (which I don’t get the appeal of) instead a 5 spd full transmission on the Grom. The Grom also goes to a top speed of up to 70mph after the 2022 5spd upgrade, giving it a lot more versatility in my eyes. Btw, I have another question about CVTs. How does it handle going up and down hills in the mountains? I imagine the brakes will be destroyed without the ability to use the engine to control speed.
It was the looks I liked... but yeah, not as practical as an ADV.
I sense an early midlife crisis...
I’ll be 40 in a few months, so maybe it would be timely?
@@bbishoppcm Lol, possible
Great review. I just bought a red ADV 160 for when I retire to Philippines next month. They are $3,000 USD there. They are perfect for the trash roads in the primitive province area my house in Bohol is at. I'm going to have the red on mine clear coated to make it easier to wash, and so it won't fade in the sun. Here's another English ADV 160 review that is way different than yours. ua-cam.com/video/O4NgaDr8rpY/v-deo.html Oh, and the 2024 ADV in Philippines raised the under seat storage from 28 liters to 30 liters.
Took my 24 out today for it's 1st ride. Now has 20 miles. It's not what I was hoping for. Barely hits 60 mph. Mirrors are useless.
Yeah, you really shouldn’t push a new engine like that - it will never reach its top speed until it’s actually broken in. I don’t plan on pushing mine until it’s got a few hundred miles on it. Let the rings seat properly as the top-end loosens up.
I've heard the issues with the mirrors; I'll see if I have the same issue, and may replace them with different ones later on.
@@bbishoppcm they just don't go out enough. Too small for the bike it seems
It will get better as it breaks in. Mine has 950 miles on it and it will do 70
@@shannondoherty4803 you were awesome in 90210!
I’m giving Honda motorcycles an excellent service rating!😅
Nice little scooter to go 4 pizza !
great vide.....put me to sleep lol thanks nice info
$2,900 US in Philippines
I don't live there.
Hi, is this a 5 or a 6 digit odometer?
It’s five digits plus a decimal place
hi it's balance beads.
They ALL have single channel ABS about 30% of everything you said was WRONG information.
Please feel free to correct me on the wrong points, and post corrections - or make better content that I can direct my viewers to. Thanks!
I’ve only owned and fully serviced about five motor scooters - so I may be incorrect about some small details.
Not all have ABS, some only have duel brakes
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