I actually think Kabuas should be WAAAAAAAAAY earlier, as the DP it provides is so big, the stamina is also nice and the Hp is almost that of a ring cup. It's a no-brainer as soon as you reach stats to farm lower gyfin (285/350 is what I found to work quite nicely on succ lahn with full elixir rotation, you don't 1 shot the mobs before they get an attack off but you do kill them within 8 seconds or so, which means you're at ~25k trash / hour on LS2) From there, the only reliable way to get to 301 AP to max out gyfin AP req without spending 15b on crystal setup and spending 100m / hour on consumables is to get tet disto x2 + jetina pen rings x2. After that, it's about DP, so you build your fallen god x3 (no boots). Back to AP once you reach 380ish. Next breakpoint is 309 AP that matters, you need 8 AP. If you go ANY pen neck + 20 AP pen belt, with ators powerstone, you will reach 309. I would agree here that going directly to tet debo neck + belt ALSO reaches 309 AP but each piece is 55ish B for 110b meanwhile pen valtara + pen are 55 for both. At that point, you aren't benefitting at all from debo since you don't have set bonus and that extra 55b could have been spent on finishing your boots AND getting a vells heart. Debo doesn't make sense until you reach 309 AP / 401 DP. Resell value on tet distos is no problem, you lose 5b in taxes when you actually go to upgrade but that's hundred of hours of grinding later and the facilitation of said grinding from 309 AP bracket AND vells heart AND finished boots is huge. Reselling the pen ogre / layten and the pen valtarra might take some time and taxes there is another 8b or so, but those items will actually allow you to either farm lower gyfin and 1 shot the packs (sub 7 seconds, at least on succ lahn) OR push you to much greater zones such as crypt. If the point of this video is to say that tungrad is a noob trap by now, that's right, if the point is to say to go directly into debos from season graduation, I feel like that's completely crazy. If you instead follow the typical route to 309 AP with "complete waste" set of tet disto x2 and layten + valtarra for example, that will lead you into being able to farm ash forest and work on your own debo neck as you progress the rest of your gear, as well as crypt for the belt. Then probably buy a single ring and call it a day. That's also when it makes sense, once you hit 309 / 401, to look at a pen 2nd weapon, but the price of that for what it does isn't really worth it unless you're trying to push for 1000+ monster AP for the absolute end game zones. And of course, it's the step towards sovereign weapons.
This is exactly how I viewed it. Went that route in a different order due to having already gear from before coming back. What's easy to miss is that these smaller incremental upgrades feel much better than going straight to debo. Yes, it's not as efficient. Does it matter? Not really. Unless the player has to have 720+GS in a few months. Seeing the ap, dp and GS increase as spots become easier and faster to farm can help players feel motivated to keep playing. Expecting them to grind 200 hours before payoff? Doubtful it will happen for most players. Especially with capped PvP and no real need for the gear besides the sake of having better gear. It doesn't change much.
Nice video, I was debating exactly this progression path in my head, i'm at 305/390 with 2 distos, and i'm thinking about going after the debo neck and leave it at 5x tet and work my way up from there
u don't need garm till very much later, just karanda is enough. the diff is at MOST 5 ap. for crystals - yeah, i'd hoenstly just grind them up while you can abuse season, 15b might seem like a ton but it really isn't much with all the current new-player-freebies n stuff, and hammer stock is continuing to dwindle rn, which means selling the hammer for new players is even faster
296 AP and only at 916 monster AP with both pen blackstars and 4 set fallen god, and crystal set focus on AP church+cron+Perfume+frenzy+villa. Idk what 2 of those buffs you have are, two on the right. The trophy is always on preorder with 1k+ orders, those are always sold out. If one of them is the mount set thing, they are expensive and hard to make as far as im aware.
@@IncubiAkster you sure you have passives enabled ? if your class isn't witch, are you factoring in the self ap buff ? as for the buffs, the head with 4 ap less is almost sitting on the market, and the most right buff is krogdalo wind set, which you also can easily get from orders within a reasonable amount of time. Sold out ≠ unobtainable.
accuracy accessories are about to get a huge buff , so i'd say if you want them buy them now because stuff like this rarelly get completly obsolete specially if it has uses on pvp, evasion still work on evasion heavy classes and it might get better as the patches come in
@@ziomek199 if i remember correcly yes, they were buffing the total acccuracy, i can't remember my fonts tho, it was during a livestream idk if it was blue stream, or anyone else
@@kariisawa_oh yea they change acc number to be higher but actual meta with DR changer is stacking AP and noone know if acc accesory will be needed ever >.>
For those who are working towards getting 3 or 5pc debos, do u think its better to just sell hammer(if they still have it), get all tet debo, save the remaining money for at least pen sov rather than spending 36b(current price in my server) each hammer for pen debo neck attempt?
It depends on your situation. If you can grind to get your 3/5 debo set before the expiry date of the hammer, I would save the hammer and tap the pen debo myself.
i cant seem to replicate the monster AP on this video. im copying it on gear planner on garmoth with same cyrstals and consumables but mine has less monster ap. dont know why. copied gear as well
I have mixed feelings about this advice, and especially towards new players, because Deboreka accessories are pointless, as there is currently no content in the game that requires them. And new players are making far less money now, because all the ACCESSORIES on the market have crashed. So telling a new player to buy a TET Deboreka accessory when they could buy two PEN non-Deboreka accessories, is not the best advice for them. And you are just going to make new players burn-out. I would also venture to say that any player that buys all their accessories off the CM, will not take the time needed to PEN those things, so there is really no “upgrade path” when buying them. I would suggest new players, buy what you can afford, and wait to see what happens with these Deborakas. I have a feeling these Deboreka will continue to drop in price in the following mouths.
Actually, when the target is reaching 301 AP cap, I would recommend buying tet distos and tet tungrad earing , use jetina rings and caphras kutum to 7th tier. You don't really need buying any non-debo pen accessory (if 301 AP is the target) since you got a free pen blackstar
If someone wont get bored and eventually quit the game during his journey ofc it is best to Just rush debo setup. People however want to see some close and constant progress. Also getting double jetina pen tungrad earring +2x tet ring rings and neck/belt can be good as some mid-way.
Making jatina cresants is awful now days better to skip the lost billions. Pen capotia is more than fine for grinding orcs and giants till you can get debo of mp.
Nice guide for beginner and even for veteran player
Keep it up
Thanks
When i said Tungrads are noob trap, they said i am troll :D :D ... Thanks for the guide mate. Well Explained
Black desert online is definetely one of the games of all time
I actually think Kabuas should be WAAAAAAAAAY earlier, as the DP it provides is so big, the stamina is also nice and the Hp is almost that of a ring cup. It's a no-brainer as soon as you reach stats to farm lower gyfin (285/350 is what I found to work quite nicely on succ lahn with full elixir rotation, you don't 1 shot the mobs before they get an attack off but you do kill them within 8 seconds or so, which means you're at ~25k trash / hour on LS2)
From there, the only reliable way to get to 301 AP to max out gyfin AP req without spending 15b on crystal setup and spending 100m / hour on consumables is to get tet disto x2 + jetina pen rings x2. After that, it's about DP, so you build your fallen god x3 (no boots). Back to AP once you reach 380ish.
Next breakpoint is 309 AP that matters, you need 8 AP. If you go ANY pen neck + 20 AP pen belt, with ators powerstone, you will reach 309.
I would agree here that going directly to tet debo neck + belt ALSO reaches 309 AP but each piece is 55ish B for 110b meanwhile pen valtara + pen are 55 for both.
At that point, you aren't benefitting at all from debo since you don't have set bonus and that extra 55b could have been spent on finishing your boots AND getting a vells heart.
Debo doesn't make sense until you reach 309 AP / 401 DP. Resell value on tet distos is no problem, you lose 5b in taxes when you actually go to upgrade but that's hundred of hours of grinding later and the facilitation of said grinding from 309 AP bracket AND vells heart AND finished boots is huge.
Reselling the pen ogre / layten and the pen valtarra might take some time and taxes there is another 8b or so, but those items will actually allow you to either farm lower gyfin and 1 shot the packs (sub 7 seconds, at least on succ lahn) OR push you to much greater zones such as crypt.
If the point of this video is to say that tungrad is a noob trap by now, that's right, if the point is to say to go directly into debos from season graduation, I feel like that's completely crazy.
If you instead follow the typical route to 309 AP with "complete waste" set of tet disto x2 and layten + valtarra for example, that will lead you into being able to farm ash forest and work on your own debo neck as you progress the rest of your gear, as well as crypt for the belt. Then probably buy a single ring and call it a day.
That's also when it makes sense, once you hit 309 / 401, to look at a pen 2nd weapon, but the price of that for what it does isn't really worth it unless you're trying to push for 1000+ monster AP for the absolute end game zones. And of course, it's the step towards sovereign weapons.
This is exactly how I viewed it. Went that route in a different order due to having already gear from before coming back.
What's easy to miss is that these smaller incremental upgrades feel much better than going straight to debo. Yes, it's not as efficient. Does it matter? Not really. Unless the player has to have 720+GS in a few months. Seeing the ap, dp and GS increase as spots become easier and faster to farm can help players feel motivated to keep playing. Expecting them to grind 200 hours before payoff? Doubtful it will happen for most players. Especially with capped PvP and no real need for the gear besides the sake of having better gear. It doesn't change much.
excellent reasoning, thank you!
Nice video, I was debating exactly this progression path in my head, i'm at 305/390 with 2 distos, and i'm thinking about going after the debo neck and leave it at 5x tet and work my way up from there
im pretty sure they will add a option to turn in older gear into red level gear some day for better stats/set effects
remains to be seen :D
classic out of season with garmoth, tent, t10, house buff and 15B crystals, anyway good guide ^^
u don't need garm till very much later, just karanda is enough. the diff is at MOST 5 ap. for crystals - yeah, i'd hoenstly just grind them up while you can abuse season, 15b might seem like a ton but it really isn't much with all the current new-player-freebies n stuff, and hammer stock is continuing to dwindle rn, which means selling the hammer for new players is even faster
296 AP and only at 916 monster AP with both pen blackstars and 4 set fallen god, and crystal set focus on AP church+cron+Perfume+frenzy+villa. Idk what 2 of those buffs you have are, two on the right. The trophy is always on preorder with 1k+ orders, those are always sold out. If one of them is the mount set thing, they are expensive and hard to make as far as im aware.
@@IncubiAkster you sure you have passives enabled ? if your class isn't witch, are you factoring in the self ap buff ? as for the buffs, the head with 4 ap less is almost sitting on the market, and the most right buff is krogdalo wind set, which you also can easily get from orders within a reasonable amount of time. Sold out ≠ unobtainable.
you think accuracy accessory are dead for good and never come back or it's good time for buy it now ? for PVP build ?
accuracy accessories are about to get a huge buff , so i'd say if you want them buy them now because stuff like this rarelly get completly obsolete specially if it has uses on pvp, evasion still work on evasion heavy classes and it might get better as the patches come in
@@kariisawa_ No way ?! they really they get buffed? o0
@@ziomek199 if i remember correcly yes, they were buffing the total acccuracy, i can't remember my fonts tho, it was during a livestream idk if it was blue stream, or anyone else
@@kariisawa_oh yea they change acc number to be higher but actual meta with DR changer is stacking AP and noone know if acc accesory will be needed ever >.>
Do you think is better doing a ter debo then buying? Omg. My lucky engancing accessories are a shame
For those who are working towards getting 3 or 5pc debos, do u think its better to just sell hammer(if they still have it), get all tet debo, save the remaining money for at least pen sov rather than spending 36b(current price in my server) each hammer for pen debo neck attempt?
It depends on your situation. If you can grind to get your 3/5 debo set before the expiry date of the hammer, I would save the hammer and tap the pen debo myself.
i don't think rn it's absolute waste bcs you have to hit 300ap to join the group boss no ?
I do not get it, have the same setup as you in garmoth but 30less ap, all buffs and crystals are also same...
are you a witch
i cant seem to replicate the monster AP on this video. im copying it on gear planner on garmoth with same cyrstals and consumables but mine has less monster ap. dont know why. copied gear as well
@@shibamiori8631 passives ?
@@loonystorm how to apply passives on the gear planner xD
ahh i see the passives now haha thank you!
I have mixed feelings about this advice, and especially towards new players, because Deboreka accessories are pointless, as there is currently no content in the game that requires them.
And new players are making far less money now, because all the ACCESSORIES on the market have crashed. So telling a new player to buy a TET Deboreka accessory when they could buy two PEN non-Deboreka accessories, is not the best advice for them. And you are just going to make new players burn-out.
I would also venture to say that any player that buys all their accessories off the CM, will not take the time needed to PEN those things, so there is really no “upgrade path” when buying them.
I would suggest new players, buy what you can afford, and wait to see what happens with these Deborakas. I have a feeling these Deboreka will continue to drop in price in the following mouths.
true, and with new group boss you need 300ap to join one, getting debos is very inefficient compared to buying non debo acc.
Actually, when the target is reaching 301 AP cap, I would recommend buying tet distos and tet tungrad earing , use jetina rings and caphras kutum to 7th tier. You don't really need buying any non-debo pen accessory (if 301 AP is the target) since you got a free pen blackstar
shoud i enchant debo acc whit cron? i'm on eu
it is forbidden to do debos without crons, it's in the game's TOS. you will be banned.
@@loonystorm Bairoghann sweating xD
no money no talk
path for new players:
capotia carl to debo danny
If someone wont get bored and eventually quit the game during his journey ofc it is best to Just rush debo setup. People however want to see some close and constant progress. Also getting double jetina pen tungrad earring +2x tet ring rings and neck/belt can be good as some mid-way.
no, its not. You didnt watch the vid and listen to anything he said. please leave.
getting a master shadow lion head is rarer than 3rd age on cm
Debo just for nolife gamers
My word
Making jatina cresants is awful now days better to skip the lost billions. Pen capotia is more than fine for grinding orcs and giants till you can get debo of mp.
5 tung better than tet debo......
fast gain to pen debo
:D
Wrong. Double elkar is correct. Meow
Why deboreka? Cause they want you to buy crons
im not using this trash, already done 5 pen debos.
@@anggi032 good boi :)