Black Sea Attacks: First Russian Submarine Lost In War Since World War Two

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  • @BugInABed
    @BugInABed 11 місяців тому +307

    This is truly one of the most underrated channels on UA-cam. I genuinely get excited when I see a video from you in my feed. Pure expertise, no bullshit, and opinions either backed up by fact or labeled as opinions. Even though your videos are unscripted, your professionalism and expertise shine through every time. Thank you very much for what you do.

    • @HISuttonCovertShores
      @HISuttonCovertShores  11 місяців тому +44

      thank you!

    • @brianomalley7501
      @brianomalley7501 11 місяців тому +20

      I agree he doesn't get enough credit for what he does

    • @NerdishNature
      @NerdishNature 11 місяців тому +8

      seconded

    • @Soul-Clutch-Man
      @Soul-Clutch-Man 11 місяців тому +2

      Wtf I didn’t even realize it was unscripted. I could never pull of content like that, Id have to spend sooo long preparing a script otherwise it would just come off as incoherent rambling

    • @huleyn135
      @huleyn135 11 місяців тому

      I think it's rated exactly where it should be. Writing a script and not hemming and uhhhing is not that difficult. It really sounds ass.

  • @thomaskositzki9424
    @thomaskositzki9424 11 місяців тому +10

    No frills, no professional speaker, just pure, analytical information.
    Ahhh, what a relieve!
    Please don't ever stop. 🙂

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 11 місяців тому

      Artur is the biggest liar on you tube.....Russia jumped from 200,000 to 1.3 million troops and this fake channel says they had 9,000 that were not qualified? Who cares.
      Ukraine went from 400,000 in 2022 to 65,000 in June..and lost 45,000 in the past 3 months.....Russia has 140 million population, Ukraine had 32 million but 12 million have fled out of the country.....Ukraine has no more men to draft. This channel is full of crap and u r gullible....

  • @mrkeogh
    @mrkeogh 11 місяців тому +410

    I'm glad you qualified it as the first Russian sub lost in combat since WW2 because you'd easily get lost in the list of Russian subs lost through mechanical failure and incompetence since WW2 😬

    • @BonesyTucson
      @BonesyTucson 11 місяців тому +41

      shots fired lol

    • @randomuser5443
      @randomuser5443 11 місяців тому +14

      @@BonesyTucsonmore old torpedoes kaboomed

    • @theraven7456
      @theraven7456 11 місяців тому +3

      😂 so truth

    • @Spacey_key
      @Spacey_key 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@JK-gw1yfthere were 9 Nuclear submarines lost in history, 7 of them were Soviet/Russian, Americans lost 2 nuclear and 2 non-nuclear ships, these 7 ships that USSR/Russia lost are not even the half of their overall non combat loses after ww2, so for a god's sake, shut the f@ck up and just accept that Russia sucks at maintaining and operating submarines, you won't dodge that by pointing at the west and saying that they lost submarines too

    • @justinchen8583
      @justinchen8583 11 місяців тому +80

      @@JK-gw1yf In total the united states has lost 4 submarines since WW2, none after 1963's Thresher. In total the USSR lost 16 submarines, and Russia lost 2 after the end of the cold war. In the time between the sinking of the thresher in 1963 and the fall of the soviet union, the soviets lost 9 submarines.

  • @Ganglo-Saxon
    @Ganglo-Saxon 11 місяців тому +102

    Your work is quite remarkable mr Sutton ! Thank you very much

  • @timsmothers8740
    @timsmothers8740 11 місяців тому +4

    Thanks for the great information and content. I came over and subscribed on the recommendation of Captain Sal at what's going on with Shipping.

  • @stevegentilly726
    @stevegentilly726 11 місяців тому +82

    Thank you so much for this superb video, and filling in all the small details that we don't normally get. Great job Mr. Hutton and hope to see more!

  • @mike2228
    @mike2228 11 місяців тому +29

    Fantastic video and analysis - thank you for getting this out so quickly. Can you please add 20 seconds of outro slide to your videos so that UA-cam recommendations don't take over the screen when you are showing maps?

  • @MM22966
    @MM22966 11 місяців тому +22

    First Moskva, now this. Russia is setting all sorts of records for this conflict. I hope the US Navy is taking notes about the need for in-depth missile/drones defenses around forward ports like Guam.

    • @josephpadula2283
      @josephpadula2283 11 місяців тому +1

      I hope Japan is!

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 11 місяців тому +2

      @@josephpadula2283Japan’s been investing a lot in missile defense. Drone proliferation suggests we would all be wise to start investing in lightweight mobile gun systems as well. You’ll need something a little better than a Toyota will a 20 mm cannon strapped to the bed…but probably not that much more.

  • @00tree
    @00tree 11 місяців тому +12

    It’s insane how badly the Russian navy is getting hit by a country with no navy.

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 8 місяців тому +1

      I find it hilarious that they've been humiliated by a country that lacks a navy. The Ukrainians have shown that drones WILL have a permanent presence on the battlefield from now on.
      Slava Ukraini!

    • @T--wk9oe
      @T--wk9oe 8 місяців тому

      @@largol33t1 I think the Russians have shown that kamikaze Lancet drones are the worst nightmare for the Ukrainian army

  • @legion6277
    @legion6277 11 місяців тому +8

    Storm shadow...well done Ukraine 🇺🇦 👍

  • @idv1328
    @idv1328 11 місяців тому +27

    Wow, don’t think that will buff out.

    • @BigSmartArmed
      @BigSmartArmed 11 місяців тому

      So it'll be cool when Russia, North Korea, China, Syria, Iran, and India actually strike back. Where you at?

  • @pyalot
    @pyalot 11 місяців тому +17

    This special military operation is getting special expensive…

    • @sinfulgrace
      @sinfulgrace 11 місяців тому

      Are you American? Because if so yes it is, $125 Billion Plus for 5 Square kilometers of land gained back.

    • @pyalot
      @pyalot 11 місяців тому

      @@sinfulgrace $125B is the total US military spending on ukraine. This is equipment donations, not money, and a lot of it is hand me down equipment, surplus, mothballed, or soon to be exiting service. The number is far lower for actual equipment the US needs to replace. And it makes sense for the west to spend that money, because compared to Nato budgets, it is an absolute bargain.
      The total amount of recovered territory by ukraine is about 50% of what russia took, and granted gains have been slow recently, only a few dozen to a hundred square kilometers per week, but they are happening, steadily.
      However, that isnt all that matters. Ukraine was bleeding russia badly while russia was on their offensive, that is expected. But now ukraine is pushing and in a historical first of warfare, ukraines losses on the offensive are about 1/4 of what russias are (on the defensive)…
      It is a war of attrition, and Russia is being outspent 5x over and being efficiently out fought on the battlefield, while at home in russia the economy is in freefall and it lost as many able bodied men to expatriation as it managed to recruit. It is a slow grind, until it suddenly isnt, and then the russian federation will splinter into many pieces, many of which will be fighting each other.

    • @mduckernz
      @mduckernz 11 місяців тому

      @@sinfulgrace5 square km? LOL no
      Kharkiv and Kherson are massive areas. Many, many more than 5sqkm

    • @societyreborn33
      @societyreborn33 4 місяці тому

      This aged well lol. Is there a return policy on our $? We'd like a refund

    • @pyalot
      @pyalot 4 місяці тому

      @@sinfulgrace that is the budget option. If it becomes ukraine being captured, anual NATO budget will have to go back to height of the cold war gdp percentage -> $2-3 trillion increase. The budget deal doesnt last forever…

  • @scrag0416
    @scrag0416 11 місяців тому +10

    I really liked your style of commentary of this as you not only described what the picture showed you allowed yourself the leeway of briefing only what you thought and not as if it was cast in stone. You also used a variety of sources to help give a more complete picture. I subscribed and liked! Well done.

  • @ActionPanda-g5n
    @ActionPanda-g5n 11 місяців тому +8

    I enjoyed your little YT dissertation on the Kilo class and now thankyou for putting this together so quickly. You must be finding the current events very interesting.

  • @superdupergrover9857
    @superdupergrover9857 11 місяців тому +14

    Hmm. Seems like Ukraine could easily corner the market on USV's once the war is over. After all, they have they have the most demonstrations of successful use in combat.

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 11 місяців тому +119

    its always suprising how few warships have been in actual combat since ww2. even between ww1 and ww2 there were incidents all the time

    • @chillxxx241
      @chillxxx241 11 місяців тому

      It is believed the Chinese lost a nuclear sub last month.

    • @dmitryhetman1509
      @dmitryhetman1509 11 місяців тому +14

      In Cold War time were many incidents, also Britain vs Argentina

    • @Saffi____
      @Saffi____ 11 місяців тому +2

      I think you mean the Gulf War as that is the most recent use of a large naval force.

    • @apersondoingthings5689
      @apersondoingthings5689 11 місяців тому +16

      USA vs Iran. Although it was really proportional

    • @altf5326
      @altf5326 11 місяців тому +17

      Venezuela vs that random cruise ship just recently happened

  • @stingray427man
    @stingray427man 11 місяців тому +43

    1st heard about your channel from Aaron, thank you for your insight. Highly under rated channel. Glad you make videos occasionally 🤙👍

  • @chamonix4658
    @chamonix4658 11 місяців тому +18

    loved the sound of those missiles hitting home, music to my ears

    • @micfail2
      @micfail2 11 місяців тому +3

      It's pretty gross that you're pro-nazï

    • @johnh8615
      @johnh8615 11 місяців тому +1

      Nothing like the sound of thunder in the storm.🤣

    • @NM-wd7kx
      @NM-wd7kx 11 місяців тому +7

      ​@@micfail2the sub was ruzz man, the Ukrainians won this one

    • @Neuttah
      @Neuttah 11 місяців тому

      @@micfail2 my congratulations to Russia, for finally managing to kill a Nazi in its denazification operation.
      23rd of August was one hell of a day.

    • @micfail2
      @micfail2 11 місяців тому

      @@NM-wd7kx exactly, ukrainians are the ones whose government is openly pro-nazï and has a number of Nazï officials and government organizations. I'm surprised you don't know that, they don't even try to keep it a secret. Even the legacy Media was talking about it until a couple of years ago and it's only gotten worse since then

  • @charliemyres5450
    @charliemyres5450 11 місяців тому +1

    Easily the most informative channel on UA-cam regarding the war.

  • @AakeTraak
    @AakeTraak 11 місяців тому +59

    That was really an improvment of the KILO class.

    • @spxram4793
      @spxram4793 11 місяців тому +3

      Yes. A smokescreen was added, which it was missing direly.

    • @FuriousGeorge421
      @FuriousGeorge421 11 місяців тому +4

      The Ukrainian improvement or the Russian improvement?

    • @TonboIV
      @TonboIV 11 місяців тому +6

      Speed holes. They make the sub sink faster.

    • @itsmeagain7825
      @itsmeagain7825 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TonboIVI loled

  • @rjmun580
    @rjmun580 11 місяців тому +3

    I consider this to be one of the few channels whose reporting I can trust.

  • @Oosh21
    @Oosh21 11 місяців тому +16

    Winning the Naval war without a Navy. 🇺🇦💋👨‍🍳

    • @wadewilson6628
      @wadewilson6628 11 місяців тому +1

      Killing civilians so Zelensky can buy another mansion.

    • @WimsicleStranger
      @WimsicleStranger 11 місяців тому +5

      @@wadewilson6628 Cope harder, tankie 😁😁

    • @DARKSTAR-mn8ee
      @DARKSTAR-mn8ee 11 місяців тому +1

      Unus Exitus 🇷🇺. 🇬🇧😱😭🇺🇲😱😭😭🇺🇦.....💀🪦😁👍

    • @DARKSTAR-mn8ee
      @DARKSTAR-mn8ee 11 місяців тому +1

      Ucraina gallus canum...🇺🇦💀

    • @DARKSTAR-mn8ee
      @DARKSTAR-mn8ee 11 місяців тому

      🧐🇺🇦 Naziukropnato Mementos, Et non morieris.💀🪦

  • @allenstratton5399
    @allenstratton5399 11 місяців тому +10

    Thank you for all your hard work and your perspective.

  • @shaun469
    @shaun469 11 місяців тому +13

    Nice work mr sutton. Ive followed your website and naval news for a few years now.

  • @The_Brozilla
    @The_Brozilla 11 місяців тому +4

    I've been waiting for this breakdown since the BDA photos dropped, excellent as always.

  • @guidor.4161
    @guidor.4161 11 місяців тому +4

    I always very much appreciate getting some detailed, reliable and objective information!

  • @falcon8553
    @falcon8553 11 місяців тому +2

    Awesome video! I truly enjoyed the unscribited information given. One gets tired of the videos with written material that seems to be one sided. I enjoyed the presentation. Thank you.

  • @mbc6008
    @mbc6008 11 місяців тому +1

    This is definitely a excellent channel I stumbled across by accident. Thanks!

  • @johnnymacaroni9738
    @johnnymacaroni9738 11 місяців тому +3

    Thank you for another great video Mr. Sutton , can you please cover the new recently unveiled north Korean submarine ?

    • @HISuttonCovertShores
      @HISuttonCovertShores  11 місяців тому +2

      Eventually. Check out www.hisutton.com/North-Korea-Submarines-Compared.html and www.hisutton.com/North-Korea-Submarine-Hero-Kim-Gun-ok.html

  • @T15Medic
    @T15Medic 11 місяців тому +13

    Sutton, because of your (suspiciously) timely KILO class video, I was in a position to explain to my social circles what had happened and gave a broad Idea of what this meant for Ukraine/Russia.
    I really appreciate the work you do, in such a space where gathering sources and information is not as trival for obvious reasons.

    • @cactuslietuva
      @cactuslietuva 11 місяців тому

      So basically a single diesel sub got rekt out of 64 or how many and a landing craft.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 11 місяців тому +2

      @@cactuslietuvaRussia’s functional submarine fleet isn’t nearly that big. And the reason the the loss of the Minsk is so huge is because Ukraine is beating the hell out of the land bridge & The Kerch Bridge, the only two other options Russia has for resupply to
      Crimea besides the landing ships that are already in The Black Sea. So yeah, it’s a big deal.

    • @cactuslietuva
      @cactuslietuva 11 місяців тому

      @@grahamstrouse1165 maybe if Russia had lost Borei class then your argument has some merit. Kilo class is small diesel sub which Russia has 64. Also wouldn't Ukraine needs a navy to even attempt to attack Crimea?

    • @jajanka10
      @jajanka10 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@cactuslietuvaUA can only do a land attack.
      If russians in Crimea are starved of the good stuff- anything that cannot be carried by infantry- rockets, arty shells, AFV's- then a slow, grinding attack is a very feasible thing.
      Also, no Sub, much less 60+ of them are making past straights in Turkey on a regular basis.

    • @killingtimeitself
      @killingtimeitself 11 місяців тому

      @@cactuslietuva Ukraine doesnt need a navy to attack crimea, in fact they have already been attacking crimea. Modern naval warfare doesn't require a significant traditional navy. Now if russia were actively and properly patrolling with their navy fleet. This may be a different story.

  • @paulschrum4727
    @paulschrum4727 11 місяців тому +6

    At TI 4:26, for the Minsk, it looks like the entire superstructure just blew off like a tank turret.

  • @silverhost9782
    @silverhost9782 11 місяців тому +5

    The Chally 2 has been avenged

  • @KiloGramNo1
    @KiloGramNo1 11 місяців тому +7

    Was waiting for this video, great analysis as usual\

  • @SwarmerBees
    @SwarmerBees 11 місяців тому +4

    Minor nit, but actually the naval facilities were not captured because they were at the time of the invastion in 2014 being rented by the Black sea fleet. However their lease was to run out in 2017, according to the Soviiet Union Partition Treaty and the Kharkiv Pact.

  • @HairyBogTrotter
    @HairyBogTrotter 9 місяців тому +1

    Fascinating as always. Thank you!

  • @kevincook1018
    @kevincook1018 11 місяців тому +50

    Very interesting. Another way to attack the vessels in dry dock is simply to attack the casion (a.k.a. dry dock door) with USVs. Ships in a maintnenance availability typically drop all watertight compartmentation used at sea. Also, odds are high that work will involve at least one hull cut or hull valve removal. So, breaching the casion will likely result in sinking the ships in a flooded dry dock. This will make them not useful for many months. This is not as foolproof as hitting them with missiles but much cheaper if the USVs can penetrate port security.

    • @g412bb
      @g412bb 11 місяців тому +2

      These dry docks are not directly connected to the open sea. They are within the harbor and USV's would need to pass certain (probably guarded) choke points and obstructions which would make it very hard.
      Just check the location of these docks in Sevastopol and you'l see the barriers & choke points

    • @PrintScreen.
      @PrintScreen. 11 місяців тому +2

      @@g412bb can't forget the trained dolphins lol

    • @kevincook1018
      @kevincook1018 11 місяців тому

      You make a good point. In my country, dry docks are assumed industrial infrastructure and are afforded an order of magnitude less protection than active military ships in a Naval base. This may not be the same arrangement in Crimea. @@g412bb

    • @kevincook1018
      @kevincook1018 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes, the dolphins will carry the day!@@PrintScreen.

    • @fred6319
      @fred6319 11 місяців тому

      sinking the ships in a flooded dry dock. LOL ships in dry dock rest on bloks they can't sink

  • @macnadoodle
    @macnadoodle 11 місяців тому +3

    First sub lost - and it wasn't in the sea at the time! Actually hilarious.

  • @johnpublic6582
    @johnpublic6582 11 місяців тому +3

    I don't think it is controversial to say that the Russian Navy is the most professional of the Russian armed services. The Russian navy is losing a naval war to a country that does not have a navy. I think we lost something in translation. When Russian military was ranked 2nd in the world, it seems they meant not worst, but one better than worst. 2nd from the bottom.

    • @V-ns7iy
      @V-ns7iy 11 місяців тому

      You can die if you get bitten by mosquito in your sleep. I

  • @SteamCrane
    @SteamCrane 11 місяців тому +1

    Always worth watching.

  • @jamespope2840
    @jamespope2840 11 місяців тому +1

    Just subscribed just found your channel it's always a good thing to get as much news as possible so I can weed out the B's from the truth. You just said something about all the other countries that Putin is trying to get involved with his war. Great job keep up the good work. Thank you for your time.

  • @war-painter
    @war-painter 11 місяців тому +15

    Great stuff, love your channel. You originally inspired me to start painting the Russo-Ukraine War with that first USV strike on the Admiral Makarov, seems so long ago now. Thanks much for your in depth knowledge and reporting.

    • @aymonfoxc1442
      @aymonfoxc1442 11 місяців тому +1

      Cool. Do you have an online presence?

    • @RetroJack
      @RetroJack 11 місяців тому

      That's interesting - I'd love to see your work!

  • @danibee3735
    @danibee3735 11 місяців тому +4

    Sometimes, the only way I remember these are unscripted and unedited is that you keep reminding me lol.

  • @Fliping187
    @Fliping187 9 місяців тому +1

    Just found your channel and I love the work you do. On that note I just found a blip on FIRMS @ 45.377 , 30.926 in the black sea. Not sure if that's normal or not..

  • @Circa1664
    @Circa1664 11 місяців тому +40

    What a terrifying op it must be to take and hold something so isolated as an oil rig.

    • @gurglejug627
      @gurglejug627 11 місяців тому +6

      yes, scaling a totally unused rig which's taking has no strategic, tactical or practical value whatsoever must be gutting - even if the photos are indeed recent, which is certainly not proven.

    • @Soul-Clutch-Man
      @Soul-Clutch-Man 11 місяців тому +4

      Hopefully they aren’t holding the platforms.. UA doesn’t have the reach to defend such an isolated position.. would be a waste of such talented personnel

    • @cactuslietuva
      @cactuslietuva 11 місяців тому

      abandoned oil rig that has zero value. i mean pointless photo shoot for western media 'victories'

    • @hphp31416
      @hphp31416 11 місяців тому

      seems it's main goal was to deny russian use of those platforms with early warning radars, electronic warfare and reuleing/rearming point for helicopters@@gurglejug627

    • @MikeRyzhikov
      @MikeRyzhikov 11 місяців тому

      @@Soul-Clutch-Man They removed air defense and radars, making Crimea wide open to attacks from west.

  • @willemkaret1568
    @willemkaret1568 11 місяців тому +3

    I like your factual briefings. Thanks for the effort.

  • @captaindouchebag1703
    @captaindouchebag1703 11 місяців тому +2

    This is much better than what the media is reporting, if they report this at all.

    • @BigSmartArmed
      @BigSmartArmed 11 місяців тому

      Attack of Sevastopol dry dock is in WWIII category, are you ready to have your life ended? US-NATO just struck Russian territory that has been Russian before America became a country.

  • @jst4curiosity704
    @jst4curiosity704 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent, on-point information from a legitimate knowledgable source!

  • @silentseawolf
    @silentseawolf 11 місяців тому +3

    unscripted and unedited if fine by me, your videos are very comprehensive and easy to understand.

  • @PwnstarUK
    @PwnstarUK 11 місяців тому +3

    I’m genuinely disappointed, I thought you were going to go into the Missile tactics and the damage on the photos to the sub. I’ve seen on other channels they used a wave of s200s to activate Russian air defences,behind which were harm missiles to kill said air defence, when they lost a few air defences they turned off the rests radars and coming up the rear were storm shadow missiles that then get a free hit on the sub. Also the usvs were attacking the ships at the same time to occupy their crews, so they didnt get to shoot anything down. The Russians got taught a lesson. Brilliant tactics. I have questions..
    Was this a nuclear powered sub? Can they just crane it out or will it need breaking up. Would people be on the sub in dry dock at night.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 11 місяців тому +1

      Kilos are diesel-electric. They’re very good d-e subs, btw. They don’t have the endurance that AIP d-e’s possess but they have a lot of hard-hitting weapons.

  • @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek
    @NigelDeForrest-Pearce-cv6ek 11 місяців тому +1

    Fascinating!!! Thanks!!!

  • @Ed_in_Md
    @Ed_in_Md 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for another great video. You really tied it all together in simple terms.

  • @politicsuncensored5617
    @politicsuncensored5617 11 місяців тому +3

    It has to be extremely embarrassing for Putin's Russia to have lost so many warships in 18 months to a country "Ukraine" that has no navy~! How many ships has Russia now lost 20, 21 or more? Slava Ukraine. Shalom

    • @user-ii3qo6qt3s
      @user-ii3qo6qt3s 11 місяців тому

      That's possible when you have others gang up on you

    • @politicsuncensored5617
      @politicsuncensored5617 11 місяців тому

      There is no cry in war and for sure when you start the war and lose it. Shalom@@user-ii3qo6qt3s

  • @CosmosNut
    @CosmosNut 11 місяців тому +1

    Highest Regards, thank you for this upload, with corporate "news" timeliness is suspect, here on your channel a blessing!!. All the best to you and again Thank You.

  • @jamesrowland2002
    @jamesrowland2002 11 місяців тому

    your audio is so quiet i can barely hear it on headphones on the loudest setting possible. Whatever program you use to make vidoes, look for something like 'normalise audio' or use some plugins to get the audio closer to 0db without clipping, limiters, compressors etc.

  • @Irobert1115HD
    @Irobert1115HD 11 місяців тому +5

    considering how submarines are constructed and how they work i would say the submarine is likely a total loss.

  • @deckape714
    @deckape714 11 місяців тому +3

    Thanks good to here from you on current events

  • @evan6901
    @evan6901 11 місяців тому

    First time here, surprisingly, I love the uncut “chat” style. I appreciate your insight, well done.

  • @lzmj84
    @lzmj84 11 місяців тому +2

    After watching your video the other day then seeing these attacks. Was very much hoping you'd make this video

  • @Andrew-su9rk
    @Andrew-su9rk 11 місяців тому +3

    Just found your channel... nicely done!

  • @stuartthornton3027
    @stuartthornton3027 11 місяців тому +3

    It must have made quite a change to Russia loosing a sub to warfare.

  • @larry_ellison
    @larry_ellison 11 місяців тому

    Quality quality so much quality to this video. Thank you

  • @Magnificent2600
    @Magnificent2600 11 місяців тому +1

    Cool video, great information. It could be me but man your voice is so soft I can barely hear you.

  • @randomuser5443
    @randomuser5443 11 місяців тому +5

    Ukraine has the most productive navy

    • @theothertonydutch
      @theothertonydutch 11 місяців тому

      Cheap polyester boats filled with explosives to expose hubris. I love what a big middlefinger they are.

    • @eijmert
      @eijmert 11 місяців тому

      @@theothertonydutch well they are at war but it really feels like terrorism, same as ISIS did

  • @saturnv2419
    @saturnv2419 11 місяців тому +5

    Actually I think it should be first Russian sub lost after WWII not due to Russian action 😂

  • @driveline1325
    @driveline1325 11 місяців тому +1

    Superb Mr Sutton

  • @mhick3333
    @mhick3333 11 місяців тому +1

    Great presentation !

  • @gilbertroberttuahuru4715
    @gilbertroberttuahuru4715 11 місяців тому +4

    A well job done Ukrainian soldiers, more Russian subs to create new reefs for the fishes at the bottom of the black sea. Glory freedom to the Ukrainian soldiers and people,the world.

  • @mcgherkinstudios
    @mcgherkinstudios 11 місяців тому +3

    I’ve seen a slightly higher resolution vesion of that BDA shot and it appears that the hit on the Rostov-On-Don actually hit the dock bottom just under the bow. The shock/flying masonry then appears to have torn apart the relatively flimsy bow dome. Whilst that’s going to put the boat out for a while, I wouldn’t say based on that alone that the submarine is a total loss, more that it’s likely that they will have to do a USS Connecticut style job on it.

    • @hphp31416
      @hphp31416 11 місяців тому +2

      keep in mind reparing submarine within range of enemy fire might be difficult

    • @mcgherkinstudios
      @mcgherkinstudios 11 місяців тому

      @@hphp31416 Absolutely. At best, it’s out for the next year or two and therefore the rest of the war. And I suspect it will be hit again eventually. But for now I wouldn’t be bold enough to call it a total loss as I’m not sure from the imagery it’s recieved a direct hit.

    • @grahamstrouse1165
      @grahamstrouse1165 11 місяців тому +1

      Which Russia doesn’t really have the capacity to do in Crimea. If they leave the Rostov in the dry dock they’re down a dry dock for the duration of the conflict. Problem is they don’t really have a way to move it in one piece, either. Submarines with big holes in them are notoriously difficult to float. They’ll probably end up having to break it up in place & salvage what they can for their other Kilos.

  • @Evan_Bell
    @Evan_Bell 11 місяців тому +1

    Another great video.
    Thanks Mr Sutton!

  • @palmereldrich
    @palmereldrich 11 місяців тому +2

    ❤❤❤❤ Ukraine

  • @TeemarkConvair
    @TeemarkConvair 11 місяців тому +3

    excellent..

  • @1337flite
    @1337flite 11 місяців тому +7

    Thank you - love you work Mr. @HI Sutton.
    Ive wondered for a while if Storm Shadow will eventually be used to take out the Kerch bridge from the Black Sea. It seems the most logical way to take out the bridge.
    When the first "truck attack" on the bridge the video evidence and the post attack photos (two spans dropped at opposite ends) didn't support that and I wondered if it was air to unmanned surface vessels, and I feel like an air attack or attacks will have to be undertaken to drop the bridge.
    Removing SAM platforms such as surface combatants and shore based systems presumably makes that much easier as well as having the other obvious benefits, freedom of movement, deny Russian commerce/logisitics ships access, reduce missile attacks on Ukraine.
    The Naval battle will obviously be key in taking back Crimea, but I think it is increasingly clear that it how important it is for the land battle in the east and north of Ukraine.

    • @1337flite
      @1337flite 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@nuttywalls8190 - I cry foul because Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine can't really commit a foul in defending or regaining their territory as long as they stay within the laws and conventions of warfare.
      If the UK invades Russia then Russia would be entitled to attack London Bridge if London Bridge was being used for military purposes.
      So no in the same circumstances if Russia attacked London Bridge that would be reasonable.
      Of course the chances of Russia being able to carry out a sucessful atack against London Bridge are low. They couldn't even invade a neighbour with essentially 40 year old military technology.
      But it would be humourous to see them try.

    • @1738Creations
      @1738Creations 11 місяців тому

      @NotMe605 Russia didn't invade ukrainazia, it's a liberation of the US invasion. Since 2014, continuing today, the ukrainazis have been launching daily rocket attacks on their civilian Russian population. Thousands of children killed in schools and playgrounds with no instigation from Russia. They're just evil. The memorials for which have been scrubbed from Wikipedia. That's called propaganda.
      This happened AFTER THE US INVADED ukrainazia in 2014, executed the government and put in place their own puppet regime. The regions who democratically voted for independence were ignored and the attacks on civilians began. Russia sent peacekeepers but were told not to interfere. For 9 years they had to sit back and watch civilians being executed by the US, UK and NATO for simply wanting independence from Europe.
      The last straw was in September 2021 when NATO confirmed they would post nuclear weapons in ukrainazia. The most corrupt country in the world who had been attacking Russian civilians for 8 years, fully signed-of and approved by NATO. The Minsk agreement was signed by Germany to make ukrainazis stop the attacks. The Germans ignored the agreement for 9 years after 2 arbitrations.
      Europe doesn't care about its people. They flood their country with terrorists and illegal migrants, giving them everything they want while their own population starve. Or freeze because the UK and US blew up Nord Stream 2 to kill off their own people. Russia cares about Russians and freedom. They haven't even taken their gloves off yet.
      But you wouldn't know that because you're a fkn dent head who watches BBC Propaganda.

    • @T--wk9oe
      @T--wk9oe 8 місяців тому

      @@1337flite I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the United States has never fought with countries that had S 300 air defense systems. Even Iraq in 2003 did not have these air defense systems. The S-300 is capable of easily shooting down fourth-generation aircraft. There is no information about the fifth generation. So, Ukraine has the largest number of C 300 units after Russia. This automatically means that it is impossible to use aviation as the United States did in Iraq.

  • @BasedHadrian
    @BasedHadrian 11 місяців тому +2

    Been waiting for this video

  • @brianomalley7501
    @brianomalley7501 11 місяців тому +2

    An awesome amazing information once again thank you

  • @petertimowreef9085
    @petertimowreef9085 11 місяців тому +5

    Se-vas-TO-pol, I really appreciate you're making an effort to get it right, thanks.
    Also thank you for this video, I was hoping you'd make one about this incident. It's not hard to find information about it online, it's hard to get information you can depend on though, and your expertise and experience enables you to sift through all the noise and paint a pretty sharply outlined picture to your viewers. Thanks!

    • @user-dm6ig7kh5r
      @user-dm6ig7kh5r 11 місяців тому

      pronunciation doesn't make it yours, lol

  • @valac7820
    @valac7820 11 місяців тому +9

    Glad my country is giving more of those type of missile to ukraine 🇲🇫

  • @richglenn3729
    @richglenn3729 11 місяців тому +2

    Excellent, as always. Thank you.

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh 11 місяців тому +2

    See I have heard they have five, four and three improved Kilos in the black sea. Ah I see it was part of the Baltic fleet. That explains it. Cheers for the vids. Great work as ever squire.

    • @HISuttonCovertShores
      @HISuttonCovertShores  11 місяців тому +3

      They *had* 4 Improved-KILO plus one original KILO, the one-off Alrosa. Now 3 + 1

  • @ronmaximilian6953
    @ronmaximilian6953 11 місяців тому +53

    For a country with virtually no navy, Ukraine has certainly done a very good job of hitting the Russian Navy. A storm shadow missile has a 450 kg broach warhead, which could cause significant damage to any submarine. I would be very surprised if the Rostove in Don ever becomes operational.

    • @cultureshock5000
      @cultureshock5000 11 місяців тому +10

      it helps to have nato and the us nave do all the heavy lifting and all u have to do us push teh button on a missile battery to make it look like you fired something, ....you realize the stopry about moskva cant be true either it takes 7 or 8 missiles to overwhelm their close in weapons.... it was lost due to bad dc not anything ukraine did...

    • @skunkjobb
      @skunkjobb 11 місяців тому +39

      @@cultureshock5000 Yeah Ivan, cope harder!

    • @marksullivan2230
      @marksullivan2230 11 місяців тому +16

      @@mylesanhalt9155The Moskva was built in Ukraine … maybe Russia should have taken it back to Mykolayiv for a service … 😂😂😂

    • @cceste6885
      @cceste6885 11 місяців тому +9

      @@cultureshock5000 still has a hole in it though, I don't really give a shit how it got there

    • @Peizxcv
      @Peizxcv 11 місяців тому

      All Ukraine did is lying dead on the ground for journalist to take photos so Biden can still sell this war. All the intel, equipment, soldiers, planning are all NATO.
      My country have people volunteered to fight in Ukraine and reported it’s all mercs doing the actual heavy fighting because Ukrainian soldiers aren’t trained enough to use their own equipment let alone donated one with instructions all in English

  • @hisdudeness8328
    @hisdudeness8328 11 місяців тому +46

    The dry dock itself didn’t receive much damage, however, a good portion of the repair equipment around it was damaged or completely destroyed. Most of that stuff was made in the West, so Russia will have a very hard time replacing them.

    • @matthew____879
      @matthew____879 11 місяців тому +5

      not to mention the time to get the wreckage out of the dock

    • @sinfulgrace
      @sinfulgrace 11 місяців тому +9

      "Most of it was made in the west" File that under "Shit I made up".

    • @erikcrouch7881
      @erikcrouch7881 11 місяців тому +6

      @@sinfulgrace Prove him wrong 🤣

    • @kuunoooo7293
      @kuunoooo7293 11 місяців тому +1

      Not particularly a "hard" time but its just anoying.
      Also i dont think its build in the west

    • @DARKSTAR-mn8ee
      @DARKSTAR-mn8ee 11 місяців тому +1

      Unus Exitus. 🇬🇧😱😭🇺🇲😱😭😭🇺🇦.....💀🪦😁

  • @Praktical_
    @Praktical_ 11 місяців тому +1

    Great video H, always love your work 👍

  • @baadaaboriginalcorporation819
    @baadaaboriginalcorporation819 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent introduction. Subscribed already.

  • @janwitts2688
    @janwitts2688 11 місяців тому +15

    A palpable hit... the end of the beginning for the Black Sea fleet

    • @Vulcano7965
      @Vulcano7965 11 місяців тому +5

      You mean the beginning of the end

    • @Neuttah
      @Neuttah 11 місяців тому +2

      @@Vulcano7965 Crimea might as well be an island and Ukraine seems hellbent on not letting it slide.
      This stuff will drag on for a while. I'd say describing it as the end of the first act isn't that far off.

    • @rustyneedles3743
      @rustyneedles3743 11 місяців тому

      Yes, haven't you heard, Russia is surrendering tomorrow, unconditional surrender, this has really shook them to their core! Ukraine wins! ... 🙄

    • @BigSmartArmed
      @BigSmartArmed 11 місяців тому

      You really want to die in a WWIII as soon as possible, don't you? Russians might as well launch all the nukes because West is so suicidal there's no point anyway.

    • @janwitts2688
      @janwitts2688 11 місяців тому

      @Vulcano7965
      Nope.. they are now trapped..
      The 2nd stage will involve their wholesale slaughter..
      Then there will be the beginning of the end.. the 3rd stage where the few survivors are hunted down..

  • @benwarnock
    @benwarnock 11 місяців тому +3

    Please upload more, mate

  • @flashwashington2735
    @flashwashington2735 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks

  • @RafterPigeon
    @RafterPigeon 11 місяців тому +1

    Excellent work. Thanks.

  • @321GhostRider123
    @321GhostRider123 11 місяців тому +11

    Dame, must hurt to lose the first sub since WW2. Especialy if you lose it in a 3 Day special operation xD

  • @heazheaz6105
    @heazheaz6105 11 місяців тому +14

    I can see evidence of fire in the vicinity and obvious damage in some places. I don't know that we can say that the sub is heavily damaged from these photos, possibly though. We certainly can't say the sub is lost, especially when it's sitting in a drydock.

    • @ropeburnsrussell
      @ropeburnsrussell 11 місяців тому +19

      Subs are fragile, any damage is serious damage.

    • @Vulcano7965
      @Vulcano7965 11 місяців тому +1

      There looks to be a piece of the sub missing.

    • @marcpaulus6291
      @marcpaulus6291 11 місяців тому +8

      Its a submarine, every kind of damage must be taken serious if russia dont want another kursk. Even if its not destroyed it will be taken out for months and most likly will get hit by another strike.

    • @Neuttah
      @Neuttah 11 місяців тому +2

      Once it's built, you kind of don't want your pressure vessel to be heat-treated again.
      I winder if the double hull might offer any protection in this case, though.

    • @heazheaz6105
      @heazheaz6105 11 місяців тому

      @@ropeburnsrussell I understand that and can agree that a simple pipe leak can be serious. So, I can agree on the heavy/serious assessment but lost? Extensive repairs, sure. It might be lost, but this photo can't determine that.

  • @stanbrow
    @stanbrow 11 місяців тому +1

    Very informative. Thanks for creating this video.

  • @wogelson
    @wogelson 11 місяців тому +7

    How is damage to the submarine a loss in action? It was undergoing repairs in a dry dock and dry docks are not combat units.

    • @sinfulgrace
      @sinfulgrace 11 місяців тому

      Exactly, these Ukrainian supporters are not very bright. They'll take any insignificant Strike Ukraine makes as "PUTIN DOOOMED RUSSIA IS OVER" and simultaneously ignore 400+ Troops being Wiped out in one day at the Zaporizhia front, and don't you dare show them a Map of the Results of the "Great Offensive" when they try to claim that they're "Gaining back territory". Clowns all of them; it's funny from time to time these Channels pop on my UA-cam feed and it's hilarious to read all these Deranged, clueless and delusional comments.

  • @matthewhuszarik4173
    @matthewhuszarik4173 11 місяців тому +8

    I am truly glad Great Britain and France have given Ukraine more long range attack capabilities. I wish other nations including the US do so as well.

    • @gurglejug627
      @gurglejug627 11 місяців тому

      why? Do you relish the prospect of WW3 and seeing your children burned alive in front of you?

  • @timblack6422
    @timblack6422 11 місяців тому +1

    Extremely interesting, thank you

  • @collinator68
    @collinator68 11 місяців тому +1

    I will be glad when this war finally ends and we can start making blockbuster movies about it.

  • @m.streicher8286
    @m.streicher8286 11 місяців тому +4

    No single WW2 sub loss ever felt so bad

    • @BigSmartArmed
      @BigSmartArmed 11 місяців тому

      And the price for that is the type US can't afford.

    • @rick7424
      @rick7424 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BigSmartArmed???

    • @skip1383
      @skip1383 11 місяців тому +1

      @@BigSmartArmed Cope and seethe

    • @BigSmartArmed
      @BigSmartArmed 11 місяців тому

      @@rick7424 US is collapsing from the inside, and now US is directly implicated in a attack on Russian soil. Pentagon took over StarLink and used it for targeting and guidance correction to attack a Russian military port. Russia has a legal Casus Belli to begin military operations against ANY US assets anywhere in the world.

    • @WimsicleStranger
      @WimsicleStranger 11 місяців тому +4

      @@BigSmartArmed The US is fine. How's Russia handling it? I saw a report that due to lack of maintenance as a result of sanctions, your civilian airlines are starting to suffer. Just the other day an airplane had to land in a corn field!

  • @marksullivan2230
    @marksullivan2230 11 місяців тому +44

    Ukraine, at heart, has major naval capacity. The former flagship Moskva was built in Mykolaiv, which is a major shipbuilding center of Ukraine since the time of both the Russian Empire and the Soviet Union. The city has three major shipyards one of which is capable of building large navy ships. If Russia can’t fix their ships, maybe they should ask Ukraine for help? It’s ironic that the shipyard that built Moskva might also be building the missiles and drones that now have the Russians terrified.

    • @Peizxcv
      @Peizxcv 11 місяців тому +10

      Not sure rusty Societ era dry duck with no worker is going to help anyone. Ukraine haven’t been able to build anything post-1990 after Soviet engineers went home

    • @jwenting
      @jwenting 11 місяців тому +1

      Nikolaev, not Mykolaiv.

    • @user-mt1tw4jd5z
      @user-mt1tw4jd5z 11 місяців тому +5

      @@jwenting "Nikolaev" - Russian translation of the Ukrainian name of the city

    • @lemieux-z8933
      @lemieux-z8933 11 місяців тому +3

      If they had major capabilities, why didn't they keep their own ships lol

    • @AlexOnTheSide183
      @AlexOnTheSide183 11 місяців тому +4

      The shipyard you speak off wast able to repair barges due to many crane mechanical issues and shortage of trained man power. The irony is that Ukraine hasnt built anything significant since the fall of the USSR.
      Everything they proud themselves in was built using the resoųrces of many Soviet republics. Man power , materials , brains and so on.
      Yet Ukrainians , to this day try to take all the credit.

  • @jeffthompson-dd8kp
    @jeffthompson-dd8kp 11 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely stellar research great presentation

  • @JessWLStuart
    @JessWLStuart 11 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for presenting this!

  • @lokischildren8714
    @lokischildren8714 11 місяців тому +3

    Excellent video

  • @mabotiyn
    @mabotiyn 11 місяців тому +4

    Ukraine has humiliated Russia.

  • @marcase2003
    @marcase2003 11 місяців тому +1

    Enjoyable video, more of this pls.👍