I really love the brainstorming part of writing. It's so much fun and so exciting! But then you go down to write it and find out shit doesn't fit as well as you've imagined or you end up thinking that the idea wasn't as good as you first thought, not unique or original and stuff, and then you have another idea for another script and before you know it you've got yourself 10 partially written scripts that you either grew bored of or just don't know how to finish... Can you tell I have problems with finishing projects? Lol
@@davidstorme8748 What about when you come up with some stuff you really like but further down the road you start to lose faith in it ? Should you keep at it and try to make it work, or should you follow your inspiration to the next project?
@@davidstorme8748 I will try this out. Funny thing is that the characters in the script I'm writing now (an enemies to lovers rom-com) the voices of the characters come to me so easily compared to the ones in another I've been writing (a fantasy drama), even though I've been much more passionate about the latter for the longest time... Their words just flow off my head faster than I can type and I wish I could have that with the previous... 🤔
If you need help in finishing your work and expanding and rewriting the stuff that you brainstorm, then I recommend Dan Harmon's Story Circle idea. It's a simple yet universal story schema that's very versatile because practically any story can fit under it without having to force it. Anyways, you can definitely use the Story Circle to help structure your stories, from the story as a whole down to chapters and even scenes. I'll assume you already know about pantsers and planners, gardeners and architects, how they're not labels but approaches that vary on a spectrum and that they're tools in a toolbox. For example, you can take 1 brainstormed idea and use the Story Circle to further develop that idea. An Architect approach could be to use the Story Circle to develop the Idea into the macro-level, developing the plot of the whole story or at least it's outline from beginning to end. Or the Gardener approach to could be to start with the Idea and particularly a scene and then use the Story Circle to write through and complete the scene and then continue it until it's a chain of scenes that either reaches a satisfying end or a dead end. If you know about improv, it's basically the "yes, and" technique. You can mix and match and vary between these two approaches but the main point is that the Story Circle helps provide the structure for you to develop your brainstormed ideas further and to refine them. What do you think, The Noobest Girl ?
I knew the story that I'm working on is centered on revenge, but I didn't know just how many of those dramatic situations actually applied. Fascinating.
Getting, making, drinking coffee, is already the most dramatic thing happening to most of us in day to day office life. Someone forgot to put the coffee cups into the dishwasher? Drama! Someone did not empty the drip tray? Conflict! Someone did use up the last milk package? Madness! Treason! And then, if you finally got one and made it to your workplace without dropping it, seconds later you will burn your thongue to a crisp and spill it all over the keyboard for sure... if that is not shakespearean dramaturgy, idk what is.
_steam rose from the mug, tickling her nose. her eyes were still half asleep as she fumbled putting the key into the car's ignition._ _"mommy?"_ -her young daughters- [edit: a young girls] _voice called out from behind her. "im cold."_ _she froze. her eyes shot wide open, and a bit of the coffee splashed out as she jerked from surprise._ _the coffee was hot, the scalding drops dripping off of her hand, knuckles ash white from it being clutched tight with fear. slowly, she lifted her gaze to the rearview mirror of the car._ _no one._ _she stared_ -before- [edit: for] _a moment or two before relaxing, and the drops of coffee_ -pooling- [edit: pooled] _onto her jeans_ [edit: which] _reminded her what she was doing._ _she sighed, some of the tension leaving her body, though an irritation started to build. she sipped the coffee in frustrated, little sips as she finally started the car._ _a hangover wasnt the best way to start the day, and now hallucinations? no, thank you._ hmm. not really dramatic. more suspenseful... what is dramatic? now that i think about it, i cant really put my finger on it. or describe it. i could say stakes are building in an over the top way for a given situation. and characters are then placed in a position to respond, oe not to... relationships, identity, or life and death situations are good examples of dramatic situations... where there would be emotional turmoil? ... what i wrote doesnt have any emotional conflict. i suck. edit: ... i want coffee ☕😭 ill never be good enough. i dont even know what drama is. what else am i clueless about? ... 😩 edit: at least ill pay more attention while watching this video because i feel dumber. hey, look. interior vs superior, this kind of fits me in this situation...
Interior. Twilight. Jane sips her coffee under the pink and purple glow of a magic lantern, but her eyes are fixed on something spinning in the distance. We follow the direction of her gaze through the wide window of a beach house. The waves roll in just a few feet short an old fashioned merry-go-round. Jane (voice over): I think I'm going to have to f*** someone up, depending on what happens next. Jane stands up abruptly and we're wrenched back in doors. It looks like she's starring right at us, but the camera spins and we see a skinny looking man in a black turtleneck. He's frozen in fear at the bottom of a staircase. He's been caught in the act of sneaking down the steps. He looks guilty AF. Jane finishes her coffee in one last big gulp, and the man waits for her to speak. He seems to be regaining his composure. A liar eager to lie...
36 Dramatic Situations is a great way to get a burst of inspiration or to analyze a story that you're struggling with -- it'll show you a few basic variations for each of the situations and cite examples if you need them, and that can be useful. But the periodic table? No. The situations are far too malleable to be elemental -- some are more rigid than others, but all can be broken down into variations and you're not going to get anywhere near a comprehensive list -- I doubt it would even be possible. If you get utility out of it though, that's great. People have been breaking stories down into categories for ages, and any schema can have value. That doesn't make them objective, though. You can always slice the pie into bigger or smaller pieces.
And also is suppose to be classification of emotional actions. I think 13 of them. Like: 1.Finding of escape 2.Perplexity 3.Approval 4.Reproof 5.Spell 6.Call and etc
Intresting, but it looks like that JK (Jeff Kitchen), is not puting in the same box, dramatic situations, and emotional reactions... or even dramatic figures... I'm not it is a good thing, because in life, everything is mixed together. Nop ?
Can you do an interview with Jeff about how "The Expanse" either follows or diverges from the suggestions for film making espoused by Jeff, or any of your other super good providers of insight ?
Ok, I have looked through the list. I can't see anything that is close to the novel that I am currently editing. Probably the closest are conflict with a god and the enigma. But those would only be subplots.
@@spacecadet35 I understood them more as categories of conflict (They are only 36 after all). So enigma could be solving a murder, or cracking the German code or gradually uncovering the backstory of a mysterious character. And the value is that you can choose a category as you please to help you advance the plot of your story if you are stuck. It is a tool, meant to help you in specific ways, not a magic spell.
I couldn't get a handle on this interview. I was never quite sure what this was about. I was told, and maybe it's wrong, but a story should stick with one element, falling in love, good over evil, redemption, etc. Maybe a second element if you're really good. This interview seems to suggest being all over the place. Good vs. evil set in space seemed to work pretty good for this one fellow.
To be fair, it's supposed to be an overview of all the basic situations characters can find themselves in; a story can be about a singular theme, good vs evil or what have you, and still have each character develop in multiple ways.
He's listing all the possible conflicts in stories regardless of character or genre. It's a smart list and might help someone consider character motivations?
You’re mistaking theme with conflict, they’re two separate things. The content of the video is more so types of conflicts a story could have, your conflict that the character faces will help present that theme. To show redemption as the story theme for instance requires a conflict for a character to overcome to be worthy of redemption.
The best way to explain anything to do with writing a script is to INSTANTLY START WITH AN ACTUAL FAMOUS MOVIE THEN SHOW US WHT THOSE TERMS MEANS = Point will instantly be driven home and its value of effectiveness will show right away. People need to really understand how to "teach" - a great artist doesn't mean great teacher
After all considerations to those 36... Don't you think : - They are a bit limited ? - They are dramatic clichés, and the audience want to see some new ones ? Because the world is changing permanently ? Is it me or, things like "redemption", "forgiveness", are also dramatic figures... That are not in this list looks like... Or figures and dramatic situations, are 2 different things ?.. Not sure. Paul Schroeder for exemple, would say that the best and more intresting dramatic situation is the one you just created...
you can write the greatest script ever, but most studios will probably pass on it, and even if one wants it, they will change it so that it has the same boring formula as most films that have been made already; love interest, car chase, yada yada...
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I really love the brainstorming part of writing. It's so much fun and so exciting! But then you go down to write it and find out shit doesn't fit as well as you've imagined or you end up thinking that the idea wasn't as good as you first thought, not unique or original and stuff, and then you have another idea for another script and before you know it you've got yourself 10 partially written scripts that you either grew bored of or just don't know how to finish... Can you tell I have problems with finishing projects? Lol
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@@davidstorme8748 What about when you come up with some stuff you really like but further down the road you start to lose faith in it ? Should you keep at it and try to make it work, or should you follow your inspiration to the next project?
@@davidstorme8748 I will try this out. Funny thing is that the characters in the script I'm writing now (an enemies to lovers rom-com) the voices of the characters come to me so easily compared to the ones in another I've been writing (a fantasy drama), even though I've been much more passionate about the latter for the longest time... Their words just flow off my head faster than I can type and I wish I could have that with the previous... 🤔
If you need help in finishing your work and expanding and rewriting the stuff that you brainstorm, then I recommend Dan Harmon's Story Circle idea. It's a simple yet universal story schema that's very versatile because practically any story can fit under it without having to force it.
Anyways, you can definitely use the Story Circle to help structure your stories, from the story as a whole down to chapters and even scenes. I'll assume you already know about pantsers and planners, gardeners and architects, how they're not labels but approaches that vary on a spectrum and that they're tools in a toolbox. For example, you can take 1 brainstormed idea and use the Story Circle to further develop that idea. An Architect approach could be to use the Story Circle to develop the Idea into the macro-level, developing the plot of the whole story or at least it's outline from beginning to end.
Or the Gardener approach to could be to start with the Idea and particularly a scene and then use the Story Circle to write through and complete the scene and then continue it until it's a chain of scenes that either reaches a satisfying end or a dead end. If you know about improv, it's basically the "yes, and" technique. You can mix and match and vary between these two approaches but the main point is that the Story Circle helps provide the structure for you to develop your brainstormed ideas further and to refine them.
What do you think, The Noobest Girl ?
This has done more to convince me to check out his book than anything else so far.
I knew the story that I'm working on is centered on revenge, but I didn't know just how many of those dramatic situations actually applied. Fascinating.
I'm learning a lot. 😊 Thanks, FC, for the poignantly satisfying vids. 💗
YAY!!! I finally found an affordable copy of Jeff's book. Can't wait to dive into it! I'll be picking up the 36 situations book next...
Thanks for your sharing 🙏
Yep that tears it next paycheck I'm purchasing his book
Becomes much-better at a faster speed.
Amen. And all men. 1.25x at the very least.
1.5 here
and pulled the trigger on the book he speaks of. Have two short stories I may want to make into creepypastas. The exercises may just be fun.
List at 3:08
This guy looks like he could dramatize drinking a cup of coffee
Getting, making, drinking coffee, is already the most dramatic thing happening to most of us in day to day office life.
Someone forgot to put the coffee cups into the dishwasher? Drama! Someone did not empty the drip tray? Conflict!
Someone did use up the last milk package? Madness! Treason!
And then, if you finally got one and made it to your workplace without dropping it, seconds later you will burn your thongue to a crisp and spill it all over the keyboard for sure... if that is not shakespearean dramaturgy, idk what is.
@@BritneyLaZonga this is the most underrated comment on UA-cam
_steam rose from the mug, tickling her nose. her eyes were still half asleep as she fumbled putting the key into the car's ignition._
_"mommy?"_ -her young daughters- [edit: a young girls] _voice called out from behind her. "im cold."_
_she froze. her eyes shot wide open, and a bit of the coffee splashed out as she jerked from surprise._
_the coffee was hot, the scalding drops dripping off of her hand, knuckles ash white from it being clutched tight with fear. slowly, she lifted her gaze to the rearview mirror of the car._
_no one._
_she stared_ -before- [edit: for] _a moment or two before relaxing, and the drops of coffee_ -pooling- [edit: pooled] _onto her jeans_ [edit: which] _reminded her what she was doing._
_she sighed, some of the tension leaving her body, though an irritation started to build. she sipped the coffee in frustrated, little sips as she finally started the car._
_a hangover wasnt the best way to start the day, and now hallucinations? no, thank you._
hmm. not really dramatic. more suspenseful...
what is dramatic? now that i think about it, i cant really put my finger on it. or describe it.
i could say stakes are building in an over the top way for a given situation. and characters are then placed in a position to respond, oe not to...
relationships, identity, or life and death situations are good examples of dramatic situations... where there would be emotional turmoil?
... what i wrote doesnt have any emotional conflict. i suck.
edit: ... i want coffee ☕😭 ill never be good enough. i dont even know what drama is. what else am i clueless about? ... 😩
edit: at least ill pay more attention while watching this video because i feel dumber. hey, look. interior vs superior, this kind of fits me in this situation...
@@uglystupidloser Whoa. Well done.
Interior. Twilight.
Jane sips her coffee under the pink and purple glow of a magic lantern, but her eyes are fixed on something spinning in the distance.
We follow the direction of her gaze through the wide window of a beach house.
The waves roll in just a few feet short an old fashioned merry-go-round.
Jane (voice over): I think I'm going to have to f*** someone up, depending on what happens next.
Jane stands up abruptly and we're wrenched back in doors.
It looks like she's starring right at us, but the camera spins and we see a skinny looking man in a black turtleneck.
He's frozen in fear at the bottom of a staircase. He's been caught in the act of sneaking down the steps. He looks guilty AF.
Jane finishes her coffee in one last big gulp, and the man waits for her to speak. He seems to be regaining his composure. A liar eager to lie...
Grrrrr!!!! Film Courage! you're giving me more books to buy! (thank you)
This guy has really neat enthusiasm.
Really valuable tools
Drinking game: drink every time he mentions a chemical process a mineral or a chemical to describe a story. Drink twice every time he says “Explosive”
36 Dramatic Situations is a great way to get a burst of inspiration or to analyze a story that you're struggling with -- it'll show you a few basic variations for each of the situations and cite examples if you need them, and that can be useful. But the periodic table? No. The situations are far too malleable to be elemental -- some are more rigid than others, but all can be broken down into variations and you're not going to get anywhere near a comprehensive list -- I doubt it would even be possible. If you get utility out of it though, that's great.
People have been breaking stories down into categories for ages, and any schema can have value. That doesn't make them objective, though. You can always slice the pie into bigger or smaller pieces.
it's only 36. start memorising :)
I need to get that book of the 36
And also is suppose to be classification of emotional actions. I think 13 of them. Like: 1.Finding of escape 2.Perplexity 3.Approval 4.Reproof 5.Spell 6.Call and etc
Intresting, but it looks like that JK (Jeff Kitchen), is not puting in the same box, dramatic situations, and emotional reactions... or even dramatic figures... I'm not it is a good thing, because in life, everything is mixed together. Nop ?
Can you do an interview with Jeff about how "The Expanse" either follows or diverges from the suggestions for film making espoused by Jeff, or any of your other super good providers of insight ?
Are you familiar with the 36 dramatic situations and do you use them when you are developing a story?
Always!
Yup.
I will now
It's called "patterns"
which of the 36 situations would the movie interstellar fall into? it has me stumped
I think the point is that you can have multiple in your story. Interstellar has Disaster, a Daring Enterprise, an Enigma, etc
This guy is so fucking cool
nice
Ok, I have looked through the list. I can't see anything that is close to the novel that I am currently editing. Probably the closest are conflict with a god and the enigma. But those would only be subplots.
Maybe you are taking them too literally?
@@sivula17 - As opposed to? I should using them so broadly that any story fits and definition? What is the value of that?
@@spacecadet35 I understood them more as categories of conflict (They are only 36 after all). So enigma could be solving a murder, or cracking the German code or gradually uncovering the backstory of a mysterious character.
And the value is that you can choose a category as you please to help you advance the plot of your story if you are stuck. It is a tool, meant to help you in specific ways, not a magic spell.
@@sivula17 - That is about the level I was taking it at.
I couldn't get a handle on this interview. I was never quite sure what this was about. I was told, and maybe it's wrong, but a story should stick with one element, falling in love, good over evil, redemption, etc. Maybe a second element if you're really good. This interview seems to suggest being all over the place. Good vs. evil set in space seemed to work pretty good for this one fellow.
To be fair, it's supposed to be an overview of all the basic situations characters can find themselves in; a story can be about a singular theme, good vs evil or what have you, and still have each character develop in multiple ways.
@@PaytonPierce OK thanks. What you're saying makes sense. I can see how this can come in handy. I sort of bonk after 5 or 6.
He's listing all the possible conflicts in stories regardless of character or genre. It's a smart list and might help someone consider character motivations?
You’re mistaking theme with conflict, they’re two separate things. The content of the video is more so types of conflicts a story could have, your conflict that the character faces will help present that theme. To show redemption as the story theme for instance requires a conflict for a character to overcome to be worthy of redemption.
Does those 36 dramatic situations are listed in a book ? His book ? Wich one ? Cheers.
The Thirty-Six Dramatic Situations by Georges Polti.
Is that mike judge?
The best way to explain anything to do with writing a script is to INSTANTLY START WITH AN ACTUAL FAMOUS MOVIE THEN SHOW US WHT THOSE TERMS MEANS = Point will instantly be driven home and its value of effectiveness will show right away. People need to really understand how to "teach" - a great artist doesn't mean great teacher
"Like for instance, let's look at your Derrick story idea again..."
Did I miss something?
This is just part of an interview. Previous parts are also available in the channel
@@Striker864 Yes, I know.
@@gregorylagrange then why did you ask
After all considerations to those 36... Don't you think :
- They are a bit limited ?
- They are dramatic clichés, and the audience want to see some new ones ? Because the world is changing permanently ?
Is it me or, things like "redemption", "forgiveness", are also dramatic figures... That are not in this list looks like... Or figures and dramatic situations, are 2 different things ?.. Not sure.
Paul Schroeder for exemple, would say that the best and more intresting dramatic situation is the one you just created...
you can write the greatest script ever, but most studios will probably pass on it, and even if one wants it, they will change it so that it has the same boring formula as most films that have been made already; love interest, car chase, yada yada...
Who’s here from tiktok
Link?
This should have been edited down to 10 minutes
Its a load of nonsense. It doesn't help you write!