After Vietnam 70-71 I resumed my career as a professional drummer touring with many major acts. I had the honor of backing up the Temps and the 4tops and Archie bell and the drells at the 72 jazz festival in Cincinnati They were God given sweethearts Mel brown was their regular drummer and it escapes me why he didn't show .it was the high point of. My life.
That’s such a good story to tell man. I also always have an appreciation for Vietnam vets since I have 2 family members who are vets. Thanks for sharing that with me
@@Oddrockz your family vets are heroes. We all left a PC of our soul over there. I went in a 19 yr old kid and came home 🏡 a 100 yr old man. Life and music went hand in hand ✋ for me in the 70's. Thanks so much for your reply lots of love and hugs and kisses in life for my brother. Billy
I am 73 n grew up in the 60's n we didn't have social media n the bs that comes with it. Back then and even now it's all about the music nothing else matters n the music will live on forever
The only group that was maintained at Motown was the Four Tops. The Four Tops did not let the fame or Motown tear them up. Berry Gordy tried to push Levi Stubbs to go solo but he said no.
Like Brian Jackson, Gil Scott-Heron’s band mate said, the music business has a thing about the number 1. Clive Davis didn’t want him and only wanted Gil Scott-Heron. Gil wasn’t having it.
I grew up in the Motown era everybody's family knew somebody that was at Motown Temptations Supremes thank you for that positive piece of information the power of the Four Tops was teamwork
Paul Williams "shot himself" in the temple on the opposite side of his head from the hand the gun was found in - very suspicious. There were a lot of oddities involved in David Ruffin's death as well.
The death of Paul Williams is interesting to say the least. His family says he committed suicide so I’m inclined to believe them ofc. Hard to deny his circumstances were strange. David’s death is also very mysterious
Something I thought about during my concert experience in Newark, NJ back in December. Not only is Otis the last survivor of the original AND classic line ups he’s also the last survivor of the first psychedelic Dennis led line up and the Damon-Richard Era as well. That means out of the first FOUR lineups he’s the last man standing. Crazy.
@@kathrynmcmorrow7170 They’re starting to have a problem now with other groups performing as “The Temptations” tho. Otis said it himself. I suspect they’re talking Glenn Leonard’s Temptations Experience and the Dennis Edwards Revue (who still perform despite Dennis being deceased).
The curse to me was the fact that there was so much drama and such through the years of the temptations. Just a group that only recently gotten over that
The Temptations were Not Cursed, these beautiful men lived life and worked in a business that was not easy, and at a time that was much harder than now for who they were. And to say what they thought and felt, and truly their intimate interactions with one another is only an opinion. They truly had troubles, but always found a way to make it work for a Very long time. They were all Brothers who cared for each other, and a great success story!!
I love the movie but it does get a lot wrong unfortunately. More than what could be chalked up to honest mistakes. I also wish it was more detailed in the second part but I understand it’s focused on the original 5
The Greatest R&B group of all time my opinion and many others the classic temptation lineup of Eddie Kendricks, David Ruffin, Otis Williams, Melvin Franklin and Paul Williams
The people that were born in the 1940s were blessed with the special gift of singing music and stage presentation skills. No other decades can match them except for Michael Jackson who was born in the 50s.
They band name speaks volumes what those the bible say about temptation sad to not take heed to God's wisdom I know we all sin but I pray that we don't die in it lord please help us all every day is the day of Thanksgiving
Their success is what other singers followed but according to other witnesses "the 4 tops" was the desired group to follow, they'd been singing and performing long before "the temptations ", most groups at Motown had to take etiquette classes and media training, on the other hand the tops did not.
Do one for my all time favorite Frankie Lymon. I hated the “Why Do Fools Fall in Love” movie. They made it based on his wives & not his music career. 🙏🏽
The Temptations Past/Present Members: 1.Last surviving founding member Otis Williams (October 30th,1941) (Second Tenor/Baritone) (Group years: 1960-) Still performing 2.Founding member Elbridge Bryant (September 28th,1939- October 26th,1975) (Tenor/Baritone) (Group years: 1960-1963) Died on October 26th,1975 3.Founding member Melvin Franklin (October 12th,1942- February 23rd,1995) (Bass) (Group years: 1960-1995) Died on February 23rd,1995 4.Founding member Eddie Kendricks (December 17th,1939- October 5th,1992) (First Tenor/Falsetto) (Group years: 1960-1971; 1982 Reunion) Died on October 5th,1992 5.Founding member Paul Williams (July 2nd,1939- August 17th,1973) (Second Tenor/Baritone) (Group years: 1960-1971) Died on August 17th,1973 6.David Ruffin (January 18th,1941- June 1st,1991) (Falsetto/Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced founding member Elbridge Bryant) (Group years: 1964-1968; 1982 Reunion) Died on June 1st,1991 7.Dennis Edwards (February 3rd,1943- February 1st,2018) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced David Ruffin) (Group years: 1968-1977; 1980-1984; 1987-1989) Died on February 1st,2018 8.Richard Street (October 5th,1942- February 27th,2013) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced founding member Paul Williams) (Group years: 1971-1993) Died on February 27th,2013 9.Ricky Owens (April 24th,1939- December 6th,1995) (First Tenor/Falsetto) (Replaced founding member Eddie Kendricks) (Group years: 1971; Three shows) Died on December 6th,1995 10.Damon Harris (July 17th,1950- February 18th,2013) (First Tenor/Falsetto) (Replaced Ricky Owens) (Group years: 1971-1975) Died on February 18th,2013 11.Glenn Leonard (June 11th,1947) (First Tenor/Falsetto) (Replaced Damon Harris) (Group years: 1975-1983) Performs now with his own Temptations tribute group 12.Louis Price (March 29th,1953) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Dennis Edwards) (Group years: 1977-1980) Performs sporadically as a solo artist 13.Ron Tyson (February 8th,1948) (First Tenor/Falsetto) (Replaced Glenn Leonard) (Group years: 1983-) Still performs with Otis Williams 14.Ali-Ollie Woodson (September 12th,1951- May 30th,2010) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Dennis Edwards) (Group years: 1984-1987; 1989-1996; 2002) Died on May 30th,2010 15.Theo Peoples (January 24th,1961) (Second Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Richard Street) (Group years: 1993-1998) Performs now as a solo artist and with Temptations/Four Tops’ tribute groups 16.Ray Davis of The Parliament/Funkadelic (March 29th,1940- July 5th,2005) (Bass) (Replaced founding member Melvin Franklin) (Group years: 1993-1995) Died on July 5th,2005 17.Harry McGilberry (January 19th,1950- April 3rd,2006) (Bass) (Replaced Ray Davis) (Group years: 1995-2003) Died on April 3rd,2006 18.Terry Weeks (December 23rd,1963) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Ali-Ollie Woodson) (Group years: 1997-) Still performs with Otis Williams 19.Barrington “Bo” Henderson (June 10th,1956) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Theo Peoples) (Group years: 1998-2003) Performs with a Stylistics’ tribute group 20.Joe Herndon (January 5th,1949) (Bass) (Replaced Harry McGilberry) (Group years: 2003-2015) Performs with another group 21.G.C. Cameron (September 21st,1945) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Barrington “Bo” Henderson) (Group years: 2003-2007; 2019) Performs as a solo artist 22.Bruce Williamson (September 28th,1970- September 6th,2020) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced G.C. Cameron) (Group years: 2007-2015) Died on September 6th,2020 23.Larry Braggs (1963) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Bruce Williamson) (Group years: 2015-2019) Performs as a solo artist 24.Willie Greene (August 28th,1955) (Bass) (Replaced Joe Herndon) (Group years: 2015-2022) Now sings with Lyle Lovett 25.Mario Corbino (April 25th,1969) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Larry Braggs) (Group years: 2020-2021) Performs as a solo artist 26.Tony Grant (October 22nd,1967) (Tenor/Baritone) (Replaced Mario Corbino) (Group years: 2021-) Still performs with Otis Williams 27.Jawan M.Jackson (April 25th,1987) (Bass) (Replaced Willie Greene) (Group years: 2022-) Still performs with Otis Williams
As Richard Street said after being fired. Everyone in the group eventually got fired but the least talented. Otis, the easiest to replace , controlled everything .
Once one in particular went solo. The spiraling down began and unbelievable reports surfaced from ones who latched onto to such a some like parasites for life.
In my humble opinion, once Eddie Kendricks and Paul Williams left the group they were no longer a super group. They became just another R&B group in a era with a lot of great R&B groups!
That’s a fair take. For me it started to fall apart when Damon was let go. I’m not a huge fan of Glenn Leonard on the temptations. Damon at least was able to maintain the falsetto parts for the temptations at the same level as Eddie. Richard was also a serviceable replacement for Paul considering the direction the music was going
@@Pjsixty60 it’s my opinion, I think the temptations got better with Dennis cause the music got better. Not saying Dennis or anyone else was a better singer but I just like that lineup more
The original temps could sing anything from R&B,Blues,Country,Classical,anything in between,and make it sound great.I think the breakup was personal because of Eddie and Diane pass relation.
Elbridge Bryant was never a lead singer on their Meet The Temptations album or any other recording that I am aware of. His was always a background singer's role just like Otis'. They didn't hit stride until Ruff' took the lead! Eddie and Paul set the stage for what would ultimately become The Classic Five. The final piece of that historic ensemble was completed with the addition of the signature voice of one of the greatest lead singers and showmen, Mr. Davis Eli Ruffin, when he told the world about the sunshine he had on a cloudy day...May he rest in peace. ✝️
@@Oddrockz I know that. His voice is difficult to discern in the harmony, which in my opinion significantly minimizes his contribution to their legacy. Although some make a big deal of the fact that he preceded Ruff', as one of the original Temptations. When Eddie is singing lead, Otis steps up to first tenor. When Paul is leading, Al sings baritone. He is not included on T.W.Y.D.T.T.Y.D. the only real hit from that album, and the first for The Classic Five! Not hatin' on Al, but his departure turned out to be little more than, "Don't let the doorknob hitcha...", and, "Good riddance!"
Great group I met Dennies and Richard Street Dennies was married to Ruth Pointer of the Pointer Sister's ( whom I know) the have a daughter Idea together she sings along with the the Pointers I met Richard the day I met Dennies in the 80s here in northern California..Two nice guys
@@samrainey6523 don't know where you got your information from. Yes he once dated Aretha but was very much married to Ruthie..I know the Pointer family very well..Check your facts honey..Matter of fact Google it! They got married and had a daughter name Issa..Like I said I know the family very well! Talk to Ruthie's oldest daughter just about everyday
I wanted to focus on the main 5 and some of the other guys from the older eras. I stopped at the 90’s essentially after melvin passed away cause I didn’t want to go to close to the present
@@williebowen1043 again, I wasn’t gonna talk about the present. That’s where my take ends. I’m sorry if that bothers you but that’s where I wanted it to end. God bless you chief
Damn Otis fired a lot of people like changing underwears! The ones that did resign either had bad health issues or the situation would be so bad to force them to quit.
@@Oddrockz I could understand David Ruffin because no matter how good someone is, if you start missing work, showing up late and thinking they know it all when you don't, You are destined to fall! Not only that but it only takes one Domino to fall for the rest to fall with it. So Otis did the right thing on firing David even though he was extremely talented. Richard Street and Paul Williams we're also done dirty. I mean Richard Street was getting a kidney stone removed for crying out loud and then Paul Williams went from being the group's choreographer, having leads to basically having little to no say, rarely having leads and basically being demoted to a background singer. That must have been a blown to him, along with having an affair and his declining heath. I don't think he saw his life the same after that and probably felt like there was no hope left in the world. However, I don't believe he committed suicide because he was shot two times and he was shot with his weak hand and I read somewhere that his girlfriend lover killed him.
I wonder what's stopping The Temptations movie from being released on blu-ray? Since it was recorded on film in the late 90's, I would imagine that a 16:9 formatting could be possible, with full, untouched information, with extra information. DVD does not cut it.
That’s a good point. I’m of the belief that the film needs a redo. It does spread some misinformation and would be cool to see a different interpretation of the film
Im using headphones to listen to this video when I noticed, it's recorded in mono. Bro, in this day and age? Mono? No, it's not the headphones I'm using cause other videos and media works fine.
Paul didn't leave before Eddie, Paul was still around. When Ricky Owens failed Damon came in . Richard would sing on the side for Paul. Paul quit late 1971
He didn’t leave but was more or less absent from the group. I’m aware of that.Ricky Owens isn’t exactly necessary for the point I was making so was left absent considering his time was so short. I did mention street and his connections in the late 60’s
@@Oddrockz Paul was still performing with the temptations when Damon got added . Street officially took over after the spot was found on Paul's liver. I get your point
Every group had that one particular person that brung out the best of the group. Teddy Pendergrass of the Bluenotes, Philippe Wynne of The Spinners, Marvin Junior of The Dells, and Diana Ross of The Supremes. But you had three individuals that brought out the best of The Temptations, David Ruffin, Eddie Kendricks, and Dennis Edwards. In the 1980s you had Ollie Ali Woodson and Ron Tyson.
Glenn Leonard wasn’t fired. He said that he told Otis and Melvin that it was time for him to move on, and he wanted to spend more time with his wife and children. He also wanted to get close to God, and he became a minister.
@@jaylene.turner6524 I know about him becoming a minister. As someone who’s into ministry I actually like his story. There just isn’t too much information like that’s available to me at this time since I’m doing college stuff. Thanks for the information!
I’m not a huge fan of Otis but he did keep a solid core of that group together. Plus he does a lot to maintain their legacy as the best of the best which anyone could appreciate
There's pro's & con's to OTIS'S reputation. The public won't really ever know what happened within the group but the actual members. While OTIS enhanced and helped the legacy of the Temptations be what it is today he didn't value or regard founding members that helped him build the group to the prestige it has today!!
@georgebrice8329 It's not doing the job better, unfortunately EDDIE & PAUL were gone from the group & passed away to keep the whole legacy of the group going. OTIS didn't build the legacy by himself, EDDIE, PAUL & even MELVIN are underappreciated as founding members
@OSLO+ I agree with on that that he didn't do by himself but the point you missing my brother was he was the voice of reason in that group he had to keep em in check look I didn't agree with a lot of stuff he did but certain things had to be done who else was going to be the voice of reason in that group David Ruffin
From the research I did on this video, there just wasn’t a lot of information on Woodson so I felt that it was more appropriate to avoid mentioning him rather than try to speculate on his history with the group
They suffered curses mixed with an abundance of blessings...especially to fans who love their music. I'm not 100% sure....but Damon Haris and Richard Street died days apart from each other.
Good morning thanks bro .The Temps were correct not to let the group become David Ruffin and the Temps. The Supremes only became Dianna Ross and because of the romance of Berry and her. The world knows the best singer in the Supremes was Florence Ballard. Berry and Dianna were wicked.
It had to be something personal against Ruff or ruff just didn't want to rejoin or sumn because how could you give Dennis chance after chance but not David who to me had the most unique yet pleasant vocals I've ever heard my 6 month old twins just hush and listen when I play any song with ruff as lead vocalist that's how captivating his voice is
Glenn left the group on his own...he left because they were talking about brringing Eddie back...and he overheard Melvin saying that we the group and the fans want to bring you (Eddie) back in the group. And Dennis left to go solo in 1977...Dennis in 1987 was asked by Ron Tyson to come back in to do some shows until Ali was ready to come back.
@Brennan McMahon that current too. I'm reading Richard's book as we speak. And I also interviewed Glenn Leonard...he mentioned what was happening then.
Otis does spread a lot of misinformation which even for me had me messed up when doing research. I think he means well now a days but for awhile he was on some shit
The Temp's set the stander for every group that followed... Especially when it came to choreography ... Period... Falsettos as weii as base singers took thier que from the Tempting Temptations.. No bones about it... Keep it real....
Lets be real the original Temptations were the Temptations... Everything after that was the emitaions.. although they done the best they could to replace and i did like some of the guys like oli and the tenor they have right now .. he could sing a song i especially like "Truly for you".. and Tempt me"... actually I like everything he did... He's no Eddie but he is a special talent..
Damon was fired because the group was going over a song for the A Song For You album. Berry liked a particular line Damon sung and he wanted Damon to sing it again. Damon told Berry that he was tired and Berry told Otis to get rid of him, because of his attitude.
Actually Elbridge Bryant hit Paul over the head with a beer bottle and Paul had to get sent to the hospital or he would’ve died Paul forgave him but Al said one time during a show “let Eddie and Melvin do all the dancing while we stand back here and look good for the bitches” after that Otis fired him
@@alexandradillard2077 he only really sings lead on Isn’t She Pretty because it’s kinda like an ensemble but other than that no he doesn’t sing lead just Paul and Eddie (in his natural Tenor except Paradise)
Well in groups like that, there has to be someone to keep everyone in check. I understand it. However I feel there was a time where was telling his own story of things. Now I believe he does everything for the legacy of his brothers
The group was phenomenal but it was ridiculous that you have the least important contributor be the one who runs the group. Otis was strictly a backup singer and Motown should have never allowed him to make the changes he made.
I want to say Motown liked him as the leader because he was good with working with Motown but the fact that they ended up leaving and crawling back to Motown confuses me on that end
David wasn’t fired. Dennis in interviews says David came to him high as hell at 3am. And said I want you to replace me. Because they were best friends. Why Dennis would give David the mic during the tempts older songs during live shows. It wasn’t just David running and stealing the mic.
I’m aware that David wanted Dennis to replace him. And as I said before he was given a second chance but him being let go from the temptations is how I understood it
@@Oddrockz okay. Cause it’s even truth that David is in cloud nine. And they couldn’t completely replace his vocals. 🤙🏽 showing he was def in the group longer than Otis likes to let folks think 😝
@@MFjaYWiLL see I like Otis a lot but it’s hard to deny he tells his own version of things and because many of the guys that were there are dead, it’s hard for people to dispute it. Plus the guys that are alive often are on his side so the truth gets clouded at times
@@MFjaYWiLL also could you source me something that confirms that David was on cloud 9. I find that to be super interesting and would like to learn about that
@@Oddrockz read Richard streets book. Most of the tempts HATED Otis and Shelly. Otis was a sell out. David was a revolutionary one of the first speaking out on the shady deals Motown gave them. The whole David Ruffin and the temptations idea was because having a headliner got you more money and they could get their own deals away from Shelly and Gordy.
Like this was also my first venture into this style of video so don’t expect too much out of it. The more I do the better I’ll be. I also don’t know why this of all videos popped off. Every video I made after is better than this one
After Vietnam 70-71 I resumed my career as a professional drummer touring with many major acts. I had the honor of backing up the Temps and the 4tops and Archie bell and the drells at the 72 jazz festival in Cincinnati
They were God given sweethearts Mel brown was their regular drummer and it escapes me why he didn't show .it was the high point of. My life.
That’s such a good story to tell man. I also always have an appreciation for Vietnam vets since I have 2 family members who are vets. Thanks for sharing that with me
@@Oddrockz your family vets are heroes. We all left a PC of our soul over there. I went in a 19 yr old kid and came home 🏡 a 100 yr old man. Life and music went hand in hand ✋ for me in the 70's. Thanks so much for your reply lots of love and hugs and kisses in life for my brother. Billy
@@Oddrockz how was David's brother jimmy troubled? both had horrible childhoods in an abusive home! at a young age
@@lindahines9380 exactly. They had trauma from a bad home life. Don’t see what was wrong about what I said
Did you Tighten Up on the drums?
I am 73 n grew up in the 60's n we didn't have social media n the bs that comes with it. Back then and even now it's all about the music nothing else matters n the music will live on forever
The only group that was maintained at Motown was the Four Tops. The Four Tops did not let the fame or Motown tear them up. Berry Gordy tried to push Levi Stubbs to go solo but he said no.
I love the four tops
Like Brian Jackson, Gil Scott-Heron’s band mate said, the music business has a thing about the number 1. Clive Davis didn’t want him and only wanted Gil Scott-Heron. Gil wasn’t having it.
That’s right.
The Four Tops stayed together
with all of their original members
from 1953-1997.
Only death separated them.
I grew up in the Motown era everybody's family knew somebody that was at Motown Temptations Supremes thank you for that positive piece of information the power of the Four Tops was teamwork
Wow didn’t know that. They stayed focused then. Unfortunately they don’t get much respect as the Temps.
Paul Williams "shot himself" in the temple on the opposite side of his head from the hand the gun was found in - very suspicious. There were a lot of oddities involved in David Ruffin's death as well.
The death of Paul Williams is interesting to say the least. His family says he committed suicide so I’m inclined to believe them ofc. Hard to deny his circumstances were strange. David’s death is also very mysterious
I don’t believe Paul killed him self, I don’t think David overdosed, I believe someone killed him because of the money they found out he had 😢😢😢
Maybe Otis did em both ... LOL... I'm joking of course ...
The Temps were the baddest brothers ever songs and dance well dressed in the 60s! That every group wanted to be like them.
They really were the standard to follow
Their music lights up💡 the Soundtrack of our lives.
TEMPTATIONS 4EVER!!! 🕊🎙🎵 ❤️
The best dressed the best dancer the best singer the best performing group ever grew up in the 60s and among other groups that was music
The greatest soul group singers of all time.
Absolutely stunning performance artists!!
I will always love 💕 the temptations I grew up on listening to the temptations when I was a kid I use to sing along to their songs
Something I thought about during my concert experience in Newark, NJ back in December. Not only is Otis the last survivor of the original AND classic line ups he’s also the last survivor of the first psychedelic Dennis led line up and the Damon-Richard Era as well. That means out of the first FOUR lineups he’s the last man standing. Crazy.
Yeah he's like 81 and still performing with his group!
@@kathrynmcmorrow7170 They’re starting to have a problem now with other groups performing as “The Temptations” tho. Otis said it himself. I suspect they’re talking Glenn Leonard’s Temptations Experience and the Dennis Edwards Revue (who still perform despite Dennis being deceased).
Temptations taught me how to love in the 1960s ❤🎶All the romantic love songs 😎♥️ 80 now and still listening🎉💫
I will always love them, Long live the Temptations, Rest well Brothers, you are truly missed❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾✊🏾
They were some of the best that ever.
did it.
"Ain't nobody coming to see you Otis"!!
no curse! bad habits that couldn't be broken!
The curse to me was the fact that there was so much drama and such through the years of the temptations. Just a group that only recently gotten over that
I think Otis fired everyone who didn't agree with him. He should have never let Paul go, Paul's voice carried that group.
@@RobinIgoe-uy9dq and still doing that to this day smh
The Temptations were Not Cursed, these beautiful men lived life and worked in a business that was not easy, and at a time that was much harder than now for who they were. And to say what they thought and felt, and truly their intimate interactions with one another is only an opinion. They truly had troubles, but always found a way to make it work for a Very long time.
They were all Brothers who cared for each other, and a great success story!!
They were cursed bro
Yes a very sad story. The movie is great.
I love the movie but it does get a lot wrong unfortunately. More than what could be chalked up to honest mistakes. I also wish it was more detailed in the second part but I understand it’s focused on the original 5
@@Oddrockz yes! i really wish they showed richard more and actually mention damon and glenn
Not really fair to say they have a curse, they were blessed with experiences. I sincerely love & miss them. #Motowngenerations
Not exactly what I was trying to say but I get what you’re saying
What he's trying to say is okay they had it going on but he had an affair and he couldn't handle it so he killed
And David ruffin was a drug druggie really messed it up for
The Greatest R&B group of all time my opinion and many others the classic temptation lineup of Eddie Kendricks, David Ruffin, Otis Williams, Melvin Franklin and Paul Williams
The people that were born in the 1940s were blessed with the special gift of singing music and stage presentation skills. No other decades can match them except for Michael Jackson who was born in the 50s.
They band name speaks volumes what those the bible say about temptation sad to not take heed to God's wisdom I know we all sin but I pray that we don't die in it lord please help us all every day is the day of Thanksgiving
Their success is what other singers followed but according to other witnesses "the 4 tops" was the desired group to follow, they'd been singing and performing long before "the temptations ", most groups at Motown had to take etiquette classes and media training, on the other hand the tops did not.
Do one for my all time favorite Frankie Lymon. I hated the “Why Do Fools Fall in Love” movie. They made it based on his wives & not his music career. 🙏🏽
The disrespect! 😂 to each is own w preference but the David Ruffin era w the Temptations was by FAR the best!
I just like the music more in the 70’s. It’s just better written music. In terms of performance the Og temptations are the best.
@@Oddrockz great video btw. I’m going to subscribe!
The Temptations
Past/Present Members:
1.Last surviving
founding member
Otis Williams
(October 30th,1941)
(Second Tenor/Baritone)
(Group years:
1960-)
Still performing
2.Founding member
Elbridge Bryant
(September 28th,1939-
October 26th,1975)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Group years:
1960-1963)
Died on October 26th,1975
3.Founding member
Melvin Franklin
(October 12th,1942-
February 23rd,1995)
(Bass)
(Group years:
1960-1995)
Died on February 23rd,1995
4.Founding member
Eddie Kendricks
(December 17th,1939-
October 5th,1992)
(First Tenor/Falsetto)
(Group years:
1960-1971;
1982 Reunion)
Died on October 5th,1992
5.Founding member
Paul Williams
(July 2nd,1939-
August 17th,1973)
(Second Tenor/Baritone)
(Group years:
1960-1971)
Died on August 17th,1973
6.David Ruffin
(January 18th,1941-
June 1st,1991)
(Falsetto/Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced
founding member
Elbridge Bryant)
(Group years:
1964-1968;
1982 Reunion)
Died on June 1st,1991
7.Dennis Edwards
(February 3rd,1943-
February 1st,2018)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced David Ruffin)
(Group years:
1968-1977;
1980-1984;
1987-1989)
Died on February 1st,2018
8.Richard Street
(October 5th,1942-
February 27th,2013)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced
founding member
Paul Williams)
(Group years:
1971-1993)
Died on February 27th,2013
9.Ricky Owens
(April 24th,1939-
December 6th,1995)
(First Tenor/Falsetto)
(Replaced
founding member
Eddie Kendricks)
(Group years:
1971;
Three shows)
Died on December 6th,1995
10.Damon Harris
(July 17th,1950-
February 18th,2013)
(First Tenor/Falsetto)
(Replaced Ricky Owens)
(Group years:
1971-1975)
Died on February 18th,2013
11.Glenn Leonard
(June 11th,1947)
(First Tenor/Falsetto)
(Replaced Damon Harris)
(Group years:
1975-1983)
Performs now with his own
Temptations tribute group
12.Louis Price
(March 29th,1953)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced Dennis Edwards)
(Group years:
1977-1980)
Performs sporadically as a solo artist
13.Ron Tyson
(February 8th,1948)
(First Tenor/Falsetto)
(Replaced Glenn Leonard)
(Group years:
1983-)
Still performs with Otis Williams
14.Ali-Ollie Woodson
(September 12th,1951-
May 30th,2010)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced Dennis Edwards)
(Group years:
1984-1987;
1989-1996;
2002)
Died on May 30th,2010
15.Theo Peoples
(January 24th,1961)
(Second Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced Richard Street)
(Group years:
1993-1998)
Performs now as a solo artist
and with
Temptations/Four Tops’ tribute groups
16.Ray Davis of
The Parliament/Funkadelic
(March 29th,1940-
July 5th,2005)
(Bass)
(Replaced
founding member
Melvin Franklin)
(Group years:
1993-1995)
Died on July 5th,2005
17.Harry McGilberry
(January 19th,1950-
April 3rd,2006)
(Bass)
(Replaced Ray Davis)
(Group years:
1995-2003)
Died on April 3rd,2006
18.Terry Weeks
(December 23rd,1963)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced Ali-Ollie Woodson)
(Group years:
1997-)
Still performs with Otis Williams
19.Barrington “Bo” Henderson
(June 10th,1956)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced Theo Peoples)
(Group years:
1998-2003)
Performs with a Stylistics’ tribute group
20.Joe Herndon
(January 5th,1949)
(Bass)
(Replaced Harry McGilberry)
(Group years:
2003-2015)
Performs with another group
21.G.C. Cameron
(September 21st,1945)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced
Barrington “Bo” Henderson)
(Group years:
2003-2007;
2019)
Performs as a solo artist
22.Bruce Williamson
(September 28th,1970-
September 6th,2020)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced G.C. Cameron)
(Group years:
2007-2015)
Died on September 6th,2020
23.Larry Braggs
(1963)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced Bruce Williamson)
(Group years:
2015-2019)
Performs as a solo artist
24.Willie Greene
(August 28th,1955)
(Bass)
(Replaced Joe Herndon)
(Group years:
2015-2022)
Now sings with Lyle Lovett
25.Mario Corbino
(April 25th,1969)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced Larry Braggs)
(Group years:
2020-2021)
Performs as a solo artist
26.Tony Grant
(October 22nd,1967)
(Tenor/Baritone)
(Replaced Mario Corbino)
(Group years:
2021-)
Still performs with Otis Williams
27.Jawan M.Jackson
(April 25th,1987)
(Bass)
(Replaced Willie Greene)
(Group years:
2022-)
Still performs with Otis Williams
Nice
Thank you
Pm
Damn nice research. Thank you.
As Richard Street said after being fired. Everyone in the group eventually got fired but the least talented. Otis, the easiest to replace , controlled everything .
Once one in particular went solo. The spiraling down began and unbelievable reports surfaced from ones who latched onto to such a some like parasites for life.
In my humble opinion, once Eddie Kendricks and Paul Williams left the group they were no longer a super group. They became just another R&B group in a era with a lot of great R&B groups!
That’s a fair take. For me it started to fall apart when Damon was let go. I’m not a huge fan of Glenn Leonard on the temptations. Damon at least was able to maintain the falsetto parts for the temptations at the same level as Eddie. Richard was also a serviceable replacement for Paul considering the direction the music was going
@@OddrockzI'm pretty sure you meant *David.
@@Pjsixty60 it’s my opinion, I think the temptations got better with Dennis cause the music got better. Not saying Dennis or anyone else was a better singer but I just like that lineup more
@@Pjsixty60 I'm with you on that. Just love him!
The original temps could sing anything from R&B,Blues,Country,Classical,anything in between,and make it sound great.I think the breakup was personal because of Eddie and Diane pass relation.
A lot of music groups are cursed by the music industry producers. I blame the handlers who curse the successful Temptations. Berry Gordy.
sadly very true and when you get famous and get some money and the drugs take over things really get bad
I think Richard Street got the short end of the stick with the group.
Hi edagdwg love these men soooooo blessed to see them all live a bless life some bad times real life happens love them all Linda j. Peace
Elbridge Bryant was never a lead singer on their Meet The Temptations album or any other recording that I am aware of. His was always a background singer's role just like Otis'.
They didn't hit stride until Ruff' took the lead! Eddie and Paul set the stage for what would ultimately become The Classic Five. The final piece of that historic ensemble was completed with the addition of the signature voice of one of the greatest lead singers and showmen, Mr. Davis Eli Ruffin, when he told the world about the sunshine he had on a cloudy day...May he rest in peace. ✝️
He wasn’t, but Bryant did sing on most of that album. David only sang on maybe 2 songs
@@Oddrockz
I know that. His voice is difficult to discern in the harmony, which in my opinion significantly minimizes his contribution to their legacy. Although some make a big deal of the fact that he preceded Ruff', as one of the original Temptations.
When Eddie is singing lead, Otis steps up to first tenor. When Paul is leading, Al sings baritone. He is not included on T.W.Y.D.T.T.Y.D. the only real hit from that album, and the first for The Classic Five!
Not hatin' on Al, but his departure turned out to be little more than, "Don't let the doorknob hitcha...", and, "Good riddance!"
Elbridge Bryant did all of the first album except
“The Way You Do The Things You Do”.
They were the true icon's of group singing how you think New Edition New Kids on the Block Backstreet Boys Nsynch and Troop took after.
Great group I met Dennies and Richard Street
Dennies was married to Ruth Pointer of the Pointer Sister's ( whom I know) the have a daughter Idea together she sings along with the the Pointers I met Richard the day I met Dennies in the 80s here in northern California..Two nice guys
That’s so cool man! Richard for sure is one of my favorites from the group
You mean Dennis Edwards instead of Richard Dennie’s?
DENNIS WAS NOT MARRIED TO RUTH POINTER, THEY HAD A CHILD TOGETHER. AT THAT TIME DENNIS WAS DATING “ ARETHA FRANKLIN”…..
ARE REFERRING TO RICHARD STREET ?
@@samrainey6523 don't know where you got your information from. Yes he once dated Aretha but was very much married to Ruthie..I know the Pointer family very well..Check your facts honey..Matter of fact Google it! They got married and had a daughter name Issa..Like I said I know the family very well! Talk to Ruthie's oldest daughter just about everyday
You forgot to mention G.C. Cameron former lead singer for the Spinners. Was lead singer for the Temptations from 2003-07 &2019
I wanted to focus on the main 5 and some of the other guys from the older eras. I stopped at the 90’s essentially after melvin passed away cause I didn’t want to go to close to the present
@Odd Rock History If you're going to do history of the Temptations. Don't leave out any members past or present.
@@williebowen1043 again, I wasn’t gonna talk about the present. That’s where my take ends. I’m sorry if that bothers you but that’s where I wanted it to end. God bless you chief
Damn Otis fired a lot of people like changing underwears! The ones that did resign either had bad health issues or the situation would be so bad to force them to quit.
Yeah. In the beginning it made sense but later on it just seemed like when someone didn’t do exactly what he said you were canned
@@Oddrockz I could understand David Ruffin because no matter how good someone is, if you start missing work, showing up late and thinking they know it all when you don't, You are destined to fall! Not only that but it only takes one Domino to fall for the rest to fall with it. So Otis did the right thing on firing David even though he was extremely talented. Richard Street and Paul Williams we're also done dirty. I mean Richard Street was getting a kidney stone removed for crying out loud and then Paul Williams went from being the group's choreographer, having leads to basically having little to no say, rarely having leads and basically being demoted to a background singer. That must have been a blown to him, along with having an affair and his declining heath. I don't think he saw his life the same after that and probably felt like there was no hope left in the world. However, I don't believe he committed suicide because he was shot two times and he was shot with his weak hand and I read somewhere that his girlfriend lover killed him.
@@Faithandseekerofchrist No the gun was fired twice but one bullet wasn't found, and the other one was in Paul's head.
I wonder what's stopping The Temptations movie from being released on blu-ray? Since it was recorded on film in the late 90's, I would imagine that a 16:9 formatting could be possible, with full, untouched information, with extra information. DVD does not cut it.
That’s a good point. I’m of the belief that the film needs a redo. It does spread some misinformation and would be cool to see a different interpretation of the film
BEST TEMPS FROM 1964-1972
Great show on the temptations and very informative. Nice channel you have and subscribed, be well.
Ofc I did get some information wrong but thanks for watching man. I have a David Ruffin video coming soon, and I got a queen video after that
Im using headphones to listen to this video when I noticed, it's recorded in mono. Bro, in this day and age? Mono?
No, it's not the headphones I'm using cause other videos and media works fine.
I’m aware, no idea why it’s like that.
I loved the Temptations especially David.
I just seen the movie about them and it makes sense how crazy the music business is.
Paul didn't leave before Eddie, Paul was still around. When Ricky Owens failed Damon came in . Richard would sing on the side for Paul. Paul quit late 1971
He didn’t leave but was more or less absent from the group. I’m aware of that.Ricky Owens isn’t exactly necessary for the point I was making so was left absent considering his time was so short. I did mention street and his connections in the late 60’s
@@Oddrockz Paul was still performing with the temptations when Damon got added . Street officially took over after the spot was found on Paul's liver. I get your point
@@kamscott4201 as long as you get my point then it’s all good
Ok,Paul didn't quit. He wuz forced to retire due to health issues
The classic five Can never be touched Best group ever Eddie & David & Paul can never be replaced
Every group had that one particular person that brung out the best of the group. Teddy Pendergrass of the Bluenotes, Philippe Wynne of The Spinners, Marvin Junior of The Dells, and Diana Ross of The Supremes. But you had three individuals that brought out the best of The Temptations, David Ruffin, Eddie Kendricks, and Dennis Edwards. In the 1980s you had Ollie Ali Woodson and Ron Tyson.
Best group of All Time...
Why was Glenn Leonard let go? I do know he went into the ministry at some point.
Not sure, but I do know he went into ministry. I got to read Otis’s books
@@Oddrockz I recommend the one he wrote in 1988 with Patricia Romanowski and Ain’t Too Proud Beg 2010
Glenn Leonard wasn’t fired.
He said that he told
Otis and Melvin that it was time for him to move on,
and he wanted to spend more time with his wife and children.
He also wanted to get close to
God,
and he became a minister.
@@jaylene.turner6524 I know about him becoming a minister. As someone who’s into ministry I actually like his story. There just isn’t too much information like that’s available to me at this time since I’m doing college stuff. Thanks for the information!
@@Oddrockz
Yeah.
He talked about it in multiple interviews I saw that it was an amicable split.
He also said that he still talks to
Otis occasionally.
People could say what they say about Otis Williams but he was the heart of the group and the glue that kept em together
I’m not a huge fan of Otis but he did keep a solid core of that group together. Plus he does a lot to maintain their legacy as the best of the best which anyone could appreciate
There's pro's & con's to OTIS'S reputation. The public won't really ever know what happened within the group but the actual members. While OTIS enhanced and helped the legacy of the Temptations be what it is today he didn't value or regard founding members that helped him build the group to the prestige it has today!!
OSOL23+ Good Points but who else would of done that job if not better
@georgebrice8329 It's not doing the job better, unfortunately EDDIE & PAUL were gone from the group & passed away to keep the whole legacy of the group going. OTIS didn't build the legacy by himself, EDDIE, PAUL & even MELVIN are underappreciated as founding members
@OSLO+ I agree with on that that he didn't do by himself but the point you missing my brother was he was the voice of reason in that group he had to keep em in check look I didn't agree with a lot of stuff he did but certain things had to be done who else was going to be the voice of reason in that group David Ruffin
Forgive me for my third post but l just realised there was no mention of Alli Ollie Woodson definitely one of their best ever lead singers.
From the research I did on this video, there just wasn’t a lot of information on Woodson so I felt that it was more appropriate to avoid mentioning him rather than try to speculate on his history with the group
They suffered curses mixed with an abundance of blessings...especially to fans who love their music.
I'm not 100% sure....but Damon Haris and Richard Street died days apart from each other.
the crackling sounds throughout your vid made me stop it at 8 minute mark!
Fair, it’s the first one I’ve done like this so. Still learning boss
Good morning thanks bro .The Temps were correct not to let the group become David Ruffin and the Temps. The Supremes only became Dianna Ross and because of the romance of Berry and her. The world knows the best singer in the Supremes was Florence Ballard. Berry and Dianna were wicked.
Ricky Owen's was former lead singer for " THE VIBRATIONS from PHILLY
Didn’t feel his story was super relevant to the narrative I was telling. Was mainly focusing on the main five through the years
Ricky Owens was from St Louis and The Vibrations were from L.A.
It had to be something personal against Ruff or ruff just didn't want to rejoin or sumn because how could you give Dennis chance after chance but not David who to me had the most unique yet pleasant vocals I've ever heard my 6 month old twins just hush and listen when I play any song with ruff as lead vocalist that's how captivating his voice is
Glenn left the group on his own...he left because they were talking about brringing Eddie back...and he overheard Melvin saying that we the group and the fans want to bring you (Eddie) back in the group. And Dennis left to go solo in 1977...Dennis in 1987 was asked by Ron Tyson to come back in to do some shows until Ali was ready to come back.
he was anxious about getting replaced unfortunately. richard street tried to talk him down but couldn’t
@Brennan McMahon that current too. I'm reading Richard's book as we speak. And I also interviewed Glenn Leonard...he mentioned what was happening then.
Thanks for this info. I’d like one on Paul Williams and Al Bryant if possible. Sorry but it didn’t seem like Otis had much vested in his “brothers”.
Otis does spread a lot of misinformation which even for me had me messed up when doing research. I think he means well now a days but for awhile he was on some shit
The Temp's set the stander for every group that followed... Especially when it came to choreography ... Period... Falsettos as weii as base singers took thier que from the Tempting Temptations.. No bones about it... Keep it real....
Lets be real the original Temptations were the Temptations... Everything after that was the emitaions.. although they done the best they could to replace and i did like some of the guys like oli and the tenor they have right now .. he could sing a song i especially like "Truly for you".. and Tempt me"... actually I like everything he did... He's no Eddie but he is a special talent..
I can only hear you in one ear. I thought my headphones broke
Yeah idk why that was a problem. Still figuring that out though
Temptations Forever!
The best
What kind of inappropriate comments did Damon Harris make. I never heard this before.
It’s not totally clear, but that information is according to Otis himself. It’s in his book which I’m hoping to read soon
Damon made comments on stage of all the material items the Temps could afford due to the fans supporting the group.
@@Slim_digi really? I can see where Otis is coming from but I don’t think he really deserved to be fired for that
Damon was fired because the group was going over a song for the A Song For You album. Berry liked a particular line Damon sung and he wanted Damon to sing it again. Damon told Berry that he was tired and Berry told Otis to get rid of him, because of his attitude.
@@NathanAHogan source?
Actually Elbridge Bryant hit Paul over the head with a beer bottle and Paul had to get sent to the hospital or he would’ve died Paul forgave him but Al said one time during a show “let Eddie and Melvin do all the dancing while we stand back here and look good for the bitches” after that Otis fired him
That’s crazy
@@Oddrockz yeah Al was very cocky and volatile but he’s still my favorite because he is what Otis calls a Sopranoist
Question: On Meet the Temptations does Al sing lead on any of the songs? Thanks.
Thank you for this historical information.
@@alexandradillard2077 he only really sings lead on Isn’t She Pretty because it’s kinda like an ensemble but other than that no he doesn’t sing lead just Paul and Eddie (in his natural Tenor except Paradise)
Otis was/is the curse of the Temptations!!!
Tall Tan and Talented them:
🗣MOTOWN MONEY MAKING TEMPTATIONS!!
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Not sure why Otis had so much power in the group smh
Well in groups like that, there has to be someone to keep everyone in check. I understand it. However I feel there was a time where was telling his own story of things. Now I believe he does everything for the legacy of his brothers
He didn't mention Ricky Owens he replaced Eddie and then when Owens left Damon Harris replaced him.
@@tyronmcclain8450 first video doing this so. Just a mistake
Otis knew wasn't nobody coming to see him
The group was phenomenal but it was ridiculous that you have the least important contributor be the one who runs the group. Otis was strictly a backup singer and Motown should have never allowed him to make the changes he made.
I want to say Motown liked him as the leader because he was good with working with Motown but the fact that they ended up leaving and crawling back to Motown confuses me on that end
Just my take but I don't believe he could've lead the group better than PAUL or EDDIE (The other founding members).
True stars 🤩
David wasn’t fired. Dennis in interviews says David came to him high as hell at 3am. And said I want you to replace me. Because they were best friends. Why Dennis would give David the mic during the tempts older songs during live shows. It wasn’t just David running and stealing the mic.
I’m aware that David wanted Dennis to replace him. And as I said before he was given a second chance but him being let go from the temptations is how I understood it
@@Oddrockz okay. Cause it’s even truth that David is in cloud nine. And they couldn’t completely replace his vocals. 🤙🏽 showing he was def in the group longer than Otis likes to let folks think 😝
@@MFjaYWiLL see I like Otis a lot but it’s hard to deny he tells his own version of things and because many of the guys that were there are dead, it’s hard for people to dispute it. Plus the guys that are alive often are on his side so the truth gets clouded at times
@@MFjaYWiLL also could you source me something that confirms that David was on cloud 9. I find that to be super interesting and would like to learn about that
@@Oddrockz read Richard streets book. Most of the tempts HATED Otis and Shelly. Otis was a sell out. David was a revolutionary one of the first speaking out on the shady deals Motown gave them. The whole David Ruffin and the temptations idea was because having a headliner got you more money and they could get their own deals away from Shelly and Gordy.
Aint nobody coming to see you Otis!
I’m glad this meme still lives on 😂
Tired!!!!
You only Skimmed
Yeah. Exactly. If you want a 4 hour documentary then go watch that.
Like this was also my first venture into this style of video so don’t expect too much out of it. The more I do the better I’ll be. I also don’t know why this of all videos popped off. Every video I made after is better than this one
maybe someday some one will tell me WHY people who sing for a living smoke
Unfortunately they become addicted, and don't know how to quit.
@@Pjsixty60 it is why they start to begin with but I know what you mean
Cursed? Gtfoh! Best male group ever!
Never said otherwise boss man
The title is “The Curse of the Temptations”! This is basically a Anthology!
The point was to point attention to the bad side of this group and the troubles they had to face. The curse being all the drama and death.
Yes but he is not mentioning the racial tormenting these entertainers had to endure I read up on it
@@lindahines9380 that’s more of a different topic on its own. I was focusing on the internal issues, not the external
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This was a good presentation but with some errors .Allie Ollie Woodson was never fired he had health issues. Do a little more homework next time.
Blood sacifice !
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