Having worked in a plastic extrusion factory, I can tell you he is not exaggerating at all. Plastic is a fickle thing when being extruded. Humid that day? It's gonna stick to the machinery. Then there are the static shocks you receive working with the raw plastic. On many occasions I was shocked so bad it made my hand turn white where it hit me. :P Long story short, this is definitely a get what you give process, and I admire the dedication to the craft. Thanks guys!!
I appreciate the openness, transparency and passion this guy displayed for the science that goes into every step of this process. Thank you. I really enjoyed watching this and learnt alot. I originally was trying to find if there was a way to recycle wasted prints at home but after seeing this, it may be out of my league.
man this blew my mind!!out of hundreds of filament tutorials i finally understand just from watching this!came here on advice from 3d printing food safety which is so informative.i really appreciate the truthfulness of both tutorials.very very enlightening.
I don't comprehend why there seems to be so much hostility towards this video. I quite enjoyed knowing that plastic filament synthesis is not a precise science yet. It tells me that there still is a lot to learn about making things, especially in the area of plastic extrusion. Thanks for sharing this.
"It's an odd thing to Google this because there is this void of information" Even 7 years later this is still true. I have been researching how to do this off and on for quite some time. No one really explains on a step by step bases what to do. "It truly is an art form" Everyone has their own methods and techniques and I am enjoying piecing it all together. From 2022, Thank you for this video.
I love this guy! trying to build my own home extruder primarily for pla. this simple little video has to be the most informative thing i have found on the subject. very useful for me as i am trying to decide on an extruder to filament roll design!
Joshua - thanks on behalf of your customers for getting the information out there and spending the time. I haven't had a bad print yet that was related to Makergeeks filament. I have however had several small issues that were me on the human end....
Hi. First and foremost, thank you for providing this astonishing informative introduction. I have found that the "maker" movement entails many disciplines. You have provided some enlightening details with this podcast.
I find the water fascinating. The feedstock as to be thoroughly dried for the process to work correctly. We end-users often wind up storing the finished product in dry boxes so our process works correctly. But during manufacture the filament runs through 20 feet of water troughs. I find that reasonably hilarious.
Great to see you making the product locally. There are Technical colleges that not only give you data, but are good at trouble shooting. One thing you may run into is screw design and speed. When adding ferrous material, the friction will tear the bond. Also a vacuum in your primary water tank will control ovality and concitricity issues.
I know exactly what you mean. I'm working in a company that produces 3d printing filament and I'm a main operator there. Sometimes 2-3 degree Celsius more or less can make the difference.
Good morning, friend, I saw that you work in a company that produces 3D filaments, I have an indistrial extruder that I am adapting to start producing here in Brazil, but I have a lot of difficulties in cooling where it always gets oval. Can you help me ? Could you give me some contact so we can talk better? Thank you very much
@@georgetown2180 this information wasnt invented in the last 4 years. I have a 15 year old course explaining extrusion. A lot of videos about this topic are more then 5 years old.
I have no experience with their filaments but I tried to buy a printer from them a while back and they could never deliver. After a month and a half of waiting I finally canceled my purchase. They did refund my money immediately so thats a plus. Ended up going with a Flashforge Creator Original purchased on Amazon. Im glad I did because its fantastic.
Just getting a small Filastruder to reuse my failed prints and 3mm filament went from 3mm to 1.75mm less breaks and less problems with hotend breakdown/cooking filament...
Hi guys, we have developed a bioplastic mix from cassava which rots in 1 week under normal composting conditions. Now we are thinking of prototyping by producing pellets and eventually 3D Filaments to test it out. Any ideas on how we could go about this in Ghana? You feedback will be much appreciated. Cheers Venan
Hello I'm Daniel from Nanjing GS-Mach, So glad to know you. We have produce the machine line from 2013, I believe we can give you a good feeling. R e:3D printer filament extruder machine We have GSD20 lab extruder machine ,capacity is 1-2kg/h;GSD35 extruder machine ,capacity is 8-15kg/h;GSD45 extruder machine ,capacity is 15-30kg/h;GSD65 extruder machine ,capacity is 30-50kg/h. Our machine can produce 1.75-3.0mm diameter, and tolerance is +/-0.03mm, the machine also can produce different shapes. Re: twin screw extruder pelletizing machine GS-20 testing machine: output:5-15kg/h GS-35 15-55Kg/h Gs-50. 155-255Kg/h Gs-65. 255-400Kg/h GS-75. 450-750kg/h If you interested, pls contact me , I will send the machine video to you. Looking forward your reply. Best Regards PM:+86 18151621522 What' s app:+86 18151621522 Email:sales2@njgsmach.com
Anyone know what temperature is needed for forming PLA from the individual beads into the filament? And where I can cite this temperature from for a school project?
A question for on the topic of mixed filament parts. How do metallic parts such as wire work in the filament manufacturing-extrusion process? I am not a material scientist or chemical engineer, but I can imagine that either metallic parts fuzing in the batch mixers to the resins. I could also see bonding the resin on a wire that is extruded in the resin-extrusion process. Do either of these approaches have merit?
I enjoyed the vid. Even the digression into how it was a challenge to put together. If there was a bit of product marketing in it, im cool with it. Ive had to source locally after finding a couple china suppliers had a bit of impurities in thier spools. True white wasnt true white. Locally costs 5 times the price but 5 times less hassle and 10 times better quality. I can appreciate the effort put in to making high quality filament. Its noticeable. All the best.
This is why I chuckle so much at all those desktop diy filament extruders that you see 1 or 2 videos on and then they vanish. None of them realize how important the cooling is after you extrude, it or have any clue how to properly pull it out.
This guy could make some serious money if he started marketing, assembling, and servicing these machines here in the states. He's got the knowledge no one else has.
+ElGatoLoco698 Well, not many people do anyhow. Ever use a weedwacker? Weedwacker string is really nylon filament and it wouldn't surprise me if it was made in the same factories and even with the same machines but different settings.
Yeah, its like injection moulding operator needs to know the machine, but extrusion is about knowing the material on the fly. Its like another art form when it comes down to doing it.
Now that's where I would buy my filament from.Very well presented on how it all works.I'm building a 3D printer at the moment and would love to get more info' on shipping to Australia maybe first some samples.
Wow. I could see how fun that must've been for you to put together. You really do a good job at explaining concisely how specific the different layers of the process have to be. I was actually doing a search to see if there was a small scale version of making your own filament but thanks to your great explaining I can see it is way too many components,.time, trial and error, and financial investment, to do in a home type of setup. I'd like to purchase filament from you though. Now that I've seen how passionate and attentive to quality you are, I don't think I want t9 order Chinese spools. Hahaha
Springfield, MO? I'm close to there, I wonder if they're ever hiring, or ever planning to expand into more types of filaments, or ever wanting to expand outside of filaments.
I’ve been in the blown film industry for over 25 years. I’ve also run mono filament machines way back in my youth. Plastic will never EVER go away. If this world completely bans plastic we will be living in caves hoping for a lighting strike to create fire.
"It's odd when you google this- because it's just this void of information!" I´m working developing in a composite filament for medical implants, it is hard that you don´t find any information about but you feel great with any advance in the project
Really control the thickness of the plastic on Your enterprise is not fully automated: using laser meter line operator must constantly monitor its thickness and if it starts to deviate from the specified size - it interferes with the process? If so, as a result of such proceedings, the thickness and shape of the filament can be absolutely stable along the entire length of the coil and not to depend on the "human factor"?
Why is water used for cooling? Is air-cooling not fast enough at those production speeds or are there other reasons for this? Because normally it seems like a bad idea to hydrate filament...
I still dont get how you add blender ant it colors it. Blender won’t color the inside parts unless you melt all that together and mix properly again and only then send to extrusion
Very cool. What's your brand name so I can order your filament on Amazon? I ordered some clear "natural" filament on Amazon. I don't recall if it was PLA or ABS (I'm hoping for more choices). My hope is to make clear models. Not optical quality mind you. For light covers (LED lighting). Will I be disappointed? If so, I do I go about producing custom Acrylic or Polycarbonate (preferred) parts?
How do they control the speed and temperature. Is it going automatically or manually? Also, is it possible to manage speed of the tractor automaticaly depending on width of the filament?
lot's of people on here are just talking, he on the other hand has invested in it and is making it... so shut up about how you'd buy it from china, and at least respect the man for what he did... I thoroughly enjoyed this piece... well done maker... and I would pay him to be a consultant if I ever get around to building me a little filament factory... Think of all the experimentation you could make if you had a set-up like this...
Does anyone here know what effect (if any) temperature and humidity have on filament in storage? I've been having issues with filament snapping between the reel and my printer, as well as some tension problems getting it off the reel.
I've found before that sunlight can make some ABS filaments very brittle. UV light most likely breaks down the bonds. Once it's printed though UV light wouldn't matter as much for strength due to re heating and forming into an object
Awesome video! Can't wait to read your detailed step by step "how to" blog post you of course are gonna write about this... to fill the information void on this subject i mean.
the filament from makergeeks is great but the shipping and support is another story. bought 4 rolls to play with.. only 3 came, only 1 email response telling me that tracking showed that the box was at my house (to bad the box only had 3 rolls in it and not 4 like how i ordered and how i stated in my mails about i was missing 1.. that was the ONLY response from makergeeks my missing spool of filament was never shipped so i had to dispute the charge.
I really enjoyed that "interview". I felt like he was "real" and not just talking.
Thank you
He’s an experienced man.
Totally agree. Wish him and his company all the best.
Having worked in a plastic extrusion factory, I can tell you he is not exaggerating at all. Plastic is a fickle thing when being extruded. Humid that day? It's gonna stick to the machinery. Then there are the static shocks you receive working with the raw plastic. On many occasions I was shocked so bad it made my hand turn white where it hit me. :P Long story short, this is definitely a get what you give process, and I admire the dedication to the craft. Thanks guys!!
Rule of thumb, if you can see the spark from the static shock, it is at least 10,000 V.
Dan Murray youch
Omg, yes. I was working in production before taking my design position and the static shot right from the tank through my boot into my foot.
I worked in the plastic roto-molding industry and have to say its not that diffent. Everything he was say still holds true.
How can buy extruder machine?
I appreciate the openness, transparency and passion this guy displayed for the science that goes into every step of this process. Thank you. I really enjoyed watching this and learnt alot. I originally was trying to find if there was a way to recycle wasted prints at home but after seeing this, it may be out of my league.
Wow, dude is incredible, his personality sold me on the filament.
This man's passion for plastic and 3D printings inspiring. I'm sure he's made a ton of breakthroughs from 2015 to current day.
man this blew my mind!!out of hundreds of filament tutorials i finally understand just from watching this!came here on advice from 3d printing food safety which is so informative.i really appreciate the truthfulness of both tutorials.very very enlightening.
I don't comprehend why there seems to be so much hostility towards this video. I quite enjoyed knowing that plastic filament synthesis is not a precise science yet. It tells me that there still is a lot to learn about making things, especially in the area of plastic extrusion. Thanks for sharing this.
It’s because he has a horrible BBB rating for taking people’s money and not delivering.. this video made me order from him BUT NEVER AGAIN.
here is the man who works in his heart. Does he see what feels very much like his own job. Thank you for feeling.
this man realy love what he do
I dont know but hey do you see this 5 kg spools ? WTF are they?!?!?!?
I WANT SOME :D
@@daniel_s me too
really*
Wow, this is so cool the way things are made is so neat.
This was pretty fascinating. And bravo for any company trying to bring manufacturing power back to our own country
Nice to see a little behind the scenes of this process on a large scale, as opposed to home filament making.
He sounds like he knows exactly what's going on in there!
nah, he just prays allot thats it :)
Hobypyrocom What?
Sage Moore
go to 4:20 and listen
Hobypyrocom
:))
Yes
"It's an odd thing to Google this because there is this void of information" Even 7 years later this is still true. I have been researching how to do this off and on for quite some time. No one really explains on a step by step bases what to do. "It truly is an art form" Everyone has their own methods and techniques and I am enjoying piecing it all together. From 2022, Thank you for this video.
Are you learning just out of curiosity?
@@Akshay-cj3hq Yes, I would like to make my own filament eventually.
that guy is inspiring. He likes his stuff and communicates well
I love this guy! trying to build my own home extruder primarily for pla. this simple little video has to be the most informative thing i have found on the subject. very useful for me as i am trying to decide on an extruder to filament roll design!
make is the only company i have ever got any of my Filament from. 5***** i fully support Make . never have issues at all
Joshua - thanks on behalf of your customers for getting the information out there and spending the time.
I haven't had a bad print yet that was related to Makergeeks filament. I have however had several small issues that were me on the human end....
Hi. First and foremost, thank you for providing this astonishing informative introduction. I have found that the "maker" movement entails many disciplines. You have provided some enlightening details with this podcast.
friend2031@friend2011.com, we make this machine
What i really like is manufacturing is coming back to the states .... well done
klawndyke Canada could do it better
china already does it better
@@davidswe98 China does nothing better except they do steel intellectual property better, and make it poorly.
I can identify with this guy! Man he has the passion! Wish you all the best!
I respect this guy, he trusty seems to love his job and he’s passionate about what he does.
I find the water fascinating. The feedstock as to be thoroughly dried for the process to work correctly. We end-users often wind up storing the finished product in dry boxes so our process works correctly. But during manufacture the filament runs through 20 feet of water troughs. I find that reasonably hilarious.
Thank you so much for all the information and for explaining the process so well.
Thanks for sharing the information. You gained a new customer today.
Great to see a US based company with passion for their product...!
Fantastic video and great work Mate. There is nothing more satisfying than working out the voodoo behind a process and making it work, and work well.
You're gonna be a zillionaire! 3D printing is a huge cottage industry. I learned a tremendous amount watching your highly informative video. Thanks.
Very nice.... we are starting to enter that production market as well in Florida.
Great video, wish there were more guys like him !
Very cool video and shows how much they care about the quality of their filaments
great video of a scaled down industrial process... love it!
Great to see you making the product locally. There are Technical colleges that not only give you data, but are good at trouble shooting. One thing you may run into is screw design and speed. When adding ferrous material, the friction will tear the bond. Also a vacuum in your primary water tank will control ovality and concitricity issues.
we make this 3D filament machine, email:friend2031@friend2011.com
That's very interesting, I have been extruding filament for years mainly Solvay materials(PEEK,PPSU,PAEK and have never thought about using my vacuum.
I know exactly what you mean. I'm working in a company that produces 3d printing filament and I'm a main operator there. Sometimes 2-3 degree Celsius more or less can make the difference.
Good morning, friend, I saw that you work in a company that produces 3D filaments, I have an indistrial extruder that I am adapting to start producing here in Brazil, but I have a lot of difficulties in cooling where it always gets oval. Can you help me ? Could you give me some contact so we can talk better? Thank you very much
"It's odd when you google this- because it's just this void of information!" *Been in that same situation with my unconventional projects*
well the thing is people are looking at the wrong place. If you would search plastic extrusion everything you need to know is right there about this.
@@dmyt58 this video is 5 years old, and this comment is 4 years old. They probably didn't have that information back then.
@@georgetown2180 this information wasnt invented in the last 4 years. I have a 15 year old course explaining extrusion. A lot of videos about this topic are more then 5 years old.
@@dmyt58 They probably weren't able to find it easily is what I meant.
@@georgetown2180 well thats why I gave some information on how to search for it so they would find more of it.
I am going to do my best to support this business and get as much as i can from him. He seems to care.
I have no experience with their filaments but I tried to buy a printer from them a while back and they could never deliver. After a month and a half of waiting I finally canceled my purchase. They did refund my money immediately so thats a plus. Ended up going with a Flashforge Creator Original purchased on Amazon. Im glad I did because its fantastic.
With me being a Woman and wanting to make everything myself This was very helpful Thank you
I just ordered my Robo 3D printer on Amazon and I can't wait to use some great filament on a great machine.
THANK YOU for bringing work back home from China.
Wait ,once cooled with water ,there is no drying stage ?
It's honestly some of the best filament I've ever used.
+DrMrSuperAwesomeGuy
Which brand is it?
maker filament, from makergeeks. Keep it dry with a desiccant though, it gets soft with moisture from the air over time.
Thanks
So they have to dry it after cooling with water.
Simple and precise explanation.
Cool vid, wonder what the actual machine cost ended up being to make reliable filament production thanks David NZ
In 2:47 what is the material of this pink roller?
Makergeek is a very good company. It has high quality filament and low price.
Just getting a small Filastruder to reuse my failed prints and 3mm filament went from 3mm to 1.75mm less breaks and less problems with hotend breakdown/cooking filament...
What brand and model is that extruder?
Hi guys, we have developed a bioplastic mix from cassava which rots in 1 week under normal composting conditions. Now we are thinking of prototyping by producing pellets and eventually 3D Filaments to test it out. Any ideas on how we could go about this in Ghana? You feedback will be much appreciated. Cheers Venan
Hello I'm Daniel from Nanjing GS-Mach, So glad to know you.
We have produce the machine line from 2013, I believe we can give you a good feeling.
R e:3D printer filament extruder machine
We have GSD20 lab extruder machine ,capacity is 1-2kg/h;GSD35 extruder machine ,capacity is 8-15kg/h;GSD45 extruder machine ,capacity is 15-30kg/h;GSD65 extruder machine ,capacity is 30-50kg/h. Our machine can produce 1.75-3.0mm diameter, and tolerance is +/-0.03mm, the machine also can produce different shapes.
Re: twin screw extruder pelletizing machine
GS-20 testing machine: output:5-15kg/h
GS-35 15-55Kg/h
Gs-50. 155-255Kg/h
Gs-65. 255-400Kg/h
GS-75. 450-750kg/h
If you interested, pls contact me , I will send the machine video to you.
Looking forward your reply.
Best Regards
PM:+86 18151621522
What' s app:+86 18151621522
Email:sales2@njgsmach.com
Anyone know what temperature is needed for forming PLA from the individual beads into the filament? And where I can cite this temperature from for a school project?
Do you ever see the filament jump up jump up and get down? just curious.
A question for on the topic of mixed filament parts. How do metallic parts such as wire work in the filament manufacturing-extrusion process? I am not a material scientist or chemical engineer, but I can imagine that either metallic parts fuzing in the batch mixers to the resins. I could also see bonding the resin on a wire that is extruded in the resin-extrusion process. Do either of these approaches have merit?
friend2031@friend2011.com, we make this machine
i always use esun whats a awesome way to buy your filament
I enjoyed the vid. Even the digression into how it was a challenge to put together. If there was a bit of product marketing in it, im cool with it. Ive had to source locally after finding a couple china suppliers had a bit of impurities in thier spools. True white wasnt true white. Locally costs 5 times the price but 5 times less hassle and 10 times better quality. I can appreciate the effort put in to making high quality filament. Its noticeable. All the best.
I really like this guy. Hopefully I can buy filament from them.
I'm glad I found this because they have a sale right now and im getting 2 spools of their filament and I didn't know if they are good.
Good job Sir! I hope your company is blessed and prospers.
Now I wonder... how is the grannular made?
Hoping to know what are those temperature set data is ^_^
This is why I chuckle so much at all those desktop diy filament extruders that you see 1 or 2 videos on and then they vanish. None of them realize how important the cooling is after you extrude, it or have any clue how to properly pull it out.
This guy could make some serious money if he started marketing, assembling, and servicing these machines here in the states. He's got the knowledge no one else has.
+ElGatoLoco698 Well, not many people do anyhow. Ever use a weedwacker? Weedwacker string is really nylon filament and it wouldn't surprise me if it was made in the same factories and even with the same machines but different settings.
Yeah, its like injection moulding operator needs to know the machine, but extrusion is about knowing the material on the fly. Its like another art form when it comes down to doing it.
I love his personality I wish I could be more like him.
Can i know the machine name?
Now that's where I would buy my filament from.Very well presented on how it all works.I'm building a 3D printer at the moment and would love to get more info' on shipping to Australia maybe first some samples.
Wow. I could see how fun that must've been for you to put together. You really do a good job at explaining concisely how specific the different layers of the process have to be. I was actually doing a search to see if there was a small scale version of making your own filament but thanks to your great explaining I can see it is way too many components,.time, trial and error, and financial investment, to do in a home type of setup.
I'd like to purchase filament from you though. Now that I've seen how passionate and attentive to quality you are, I don't think I want t9 order Chinese spools. Hahaha
have you had any problems with the tractor? why it would run one day but then two days later it doesn't run.
I live in springfield MO!! I would love to come take a tour of this facility
You have a new customer coming soon. Thanks for the video and information.
Where is your website?
KeeneVillagePlastics.com
Springfield, MO? I'm close to there, I wonder if they're ever hiring, or ever planning to expand into more types of filaments, or ever wanting to expand outside of filaments.
I respect him cuz he knows and believe whats he exactly doing..
I’ve been in the blown film industry for over 25 years. I’ve also run mono filament machines way back in my youth. Plastic will never EVER go away. If this world completely bans plastic we will be living in caves hoping for a lighting strike to create fire.
Hi, do you produce PLA filament with mineral filler?
"It's odd when you google this- because it's just this void of information!" I´m working developing in a composite filament for medical implants, it is hard that you don´t find any information about but you feel great with any advance in the project
Hello, can I contact you? About your project if you want. Am also developing way to make filaments. Thanks
Anyone know what this machines name and brand are? currently drowning in the void.
Really control the thickness of the plastic on Your enterprise is not fully automated: using laser meter line operator must constantly monitor its thickness and if it starts to deviate from the specified size - it interferes with the process? If so, as a result of such proceedings, the thickness and shape of the filament can be absolutely stable along the entire length of the coil and not to depend on the "human factor"?
How about adding graphene ?
Great video! Can you tell me what kind of color pigment is that? Can you share an ebay link?Thanks!!
Why is water used for cooling? Is air-cooling not fast enough at those production speeds or are there other reasons for this?
Because normally it seems like a bad idea to hydrate filament...
I use air and water....... But water never touches the rod.
I want to buy a machine to do 3D Printing Filament like this. Can you help me??
sales1@njgsmach.com
I still dont get how you add blender ant it colors it. Blender won’t color the inside parts unless you melt all that together and mix properly again and only then send to extrusion
Very cool. What's your brand name so I can order your filament on Amazon?
I ordered some clear "natural" filament on Amazon. I don't recall if it was PLA or ABS (I'm hoping for more choices). My hope is to make clear models. Not optical quality mind you. For light covers (LED lighting). Will I be disappointed? If so, I do I go about producing custom Acrylic or Polycarbonate (preferred) parts?
How do they control the speed and temperature. Is it going automatically or manually?
Also, is it possible to manage speed of the tractor automaticaly depending on width of the filament?
Which manufacturer did you buy the machine from? would you suggest it?
www.makergeeks.com/ it's $24.55 for a 1KG spool
steven5456 asked for manufacturer of the machine not the price of 1kg spool
friend2031@friend2011.com, we make this machine
@@SuzhouACCMachineCoLtd please email me at richard@selectedge.com.au
i like this quote : making filament is constant battle
What temperature it takes to keep the filament on same diameter?
what is that sensor called at 2:41 ?
Laser sensor to check the filament diameter.
@@engineerlolo-olorodeatanle1388 Zumbach makes a really good one.
I’m from Springfield anyway to buy filament from you guys in person? Save a hassle on shipping
lot's of people on here are just talking, he on the other hand has invested in it and is making it... so shut up about how you'd buy it from china, and at least respect the man for what he did... I thoroughly enjoyed this piece... well done maker... and I would pay him to be a consultant if I ever get around to building me a little filament factory... Think of all the experimentation you could make if you had a set-up like this...
Thanks for making this video and so awesome for you to have this outside of China and to have figured it out. More companies need to do that.
Can u guys make a leather filament
Does anyone here know what effect (if any) temperature and humidity have on filament in storage? I've been having issues with filament snapping between the reel and my printer, as well as some tension problems getting it off the reel.
I've found before that sunlight can make some ABS filaments very brittle. UV light most likely breaks down the bonds. Once it's printed though UV light wouldn't matter as much for strength due to re heating and forming into an object
I live in Springfield Missouri!!! Cool!! I'll have to come take a tour!
Awesome video! Can't wait to read your detailed step by step "how to" blog post you of course are gonna write about this... to fill the information void on this subject i mean.
i make plastic rolls for bags, makes me wonder if i can sneak some resin and make my own
the filament from makergeeks is great but the shipping and support is another story. bought 4 rolls to play with.. only 3 came, only 1 email response telling me that tracking showed that the box was at my house (to bad the box only had 3 rolls in it and not 4 like how i ordered and how i stated in my mails about i was missing 1.. that was the ONLY response from makergeeks my missing spool of filament was never shipped so i had to dispute the charge.
Does 3D printing filament reacts with monomer? Is there one that doesn't?
I think this is great! I always try to buy made in Canada or USA when I can!!
Can I use milk crates to make 3D filament?
Great video, I must get some of that filament, yes it is an art form to get it right, good on you.